lol too bad these bad boys were made while the allies still were still re inventing the propellar, o and the nazis whipped up the 1st stealth plane 2 lol.......... jus sayin
lol too bad you dont have any idea what you are talking about. these planes were made in the u.s... and you could see that, they were terrible pieces of crap always in accidents. there was better french fighter that luftwaffe would have bought but the american manufacturer bribed a few people and so...
bad example. DoD and Obama are government but nazism is an idealogy
german high comman may have been full of nazis but luftwaffe was as far from nazis as anything in 1930's-1940's could be. and furthermore luftwaffe isnt just nazi germanys air force it's been germanys air force as long as there has been aircraft in the country. it's connection to nazis limits to being under government filled with nazis for a decade.
It didn´t deserve to be called a widowmaker in the Luftwaffe. Luftwaffe had by far the greatest number of starfighters--around 900--so it is obvious that their loses were high. We in Denmark had 56 starfighters, and lost 13. Also high loses compared to the numbers we had. The fact is that the starfighter was a very demanding and unforgiving aircraft to fly. But also one of the great aircraft of all time. Sadly I didn´t get the chance to se the german Wiking display team.
@CloneShift In der Vergangenheit mehrmals am Himmel gesehen. Verglichen mit Typen wie Phantom, Draken, Hunter oder zum Beispiel sogar Mirage (!) war dies ein absoluter PSYCHO-FLIEGER, unverzeihlich und wortwörtlich blitzschnell! Irgenwie GRAUSAM elegant!
Saw the German air force fly these planes in an airshow at Moffett Field, CA and it still marks as one of the fastest airplanes I have ever seen. My flight instructor told me the protocol for a stall in a an F-104 is: bail out! I don't think he was joking! LOL
what isn`t mentioned is that the many hours and joy that the pilots got flying these planes ----look for the castle tour vodeo,last flight of wtg 61,the vikings demonstration video and of course the clip that they used in the movie the right stuff...
On 13 January 1967, four Republic of China (Taiwan) Air Force F-104s aircraft engaged a formation of 12 MiG-19s of the People's Liberation Army Air Force over the disputed island of Kinmen. One MiG-19 was shot down.
It had a design quirk that had some bolts in the wing flaps installed upside down. An old lady in the factory thought it was incorrect to install upside down and installed these bolts right side up. When the plan flew inverted, flex in the wings would jam these incorrectly installed bolts into the mechanism that controls the flaps and the plane would lose control. Several pilots where killed. This is according to Chuck Yeagers autobiography.
Das Verteidigungsministerium, allen voran Franz-Josef Strauß wollte den Starfighter als Rückrad der Deutschen Luftverteidigung. Eine Aufgabe die der Starfighter nicht gewachsen war. Das Flugzeug wurde nachträglich mit Elektronik, Waffen und sonstigen Gerätschaften regelrecht "vollgestopft" obwohl es dafür gar nicht gebaut wurde. Außerdem war der Starfighter nicht ausgereift, man kann sagen ein Prototyp. Zwischen Entwurf und Erstflug lagen gerade einmal 3 Jahre. Heutzutage unvorstellbar!
deltafulcrum.I'm very sorry for the delay. there was not missiles on the F-104. just M61 Vulcan 20 mm Gatling gun. but i'm not sure, the italian F-104S was upgraded to carry 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder or 2 AIM-7 Sparrow ( air-to-air missiles )
The F-104 G in Luftwaffe service was armed with Vulcan and 2 sidewinder.
In Italy the S version was armed with 2 sidewinder and 2 Sparrow. After, the ASA version was armed with 2 sidewinder and 2 Aspide. But not Vulcan for S and ASA version.
stregaverona: Beautiful? The Starfighter was the biggest aircraft-misunderstanding since 1945! The F-104 was a widowmaker!
During its period of service with the German armed forces, about 290 German Starfighters were lost in accidents, just under 30 percent of the total force. Exactly 116 pilots were killed.
Canada had the unenviable record of losing over 50 percent of its 200 single-seat CF-104s in flying accidents.
When you are zipping along at just under the mach some 10-15 metres above the ground, stuff happens. The 104 was a sterling piece of kit, and no-one who flew it or worked on it will dispute this.
@cyberarmy007 It's interesting reading all the comments. While I always thought the 104 was an impressive looking piece of hardware., it is my least favorite of the Century series. Just not enough wing. Too much on the edge. Even looks dangerous.
Unter dem Cockpit wurde links eine sechsläufige 20-mm M 61 A-1 „Vulcan" Maschinenkanone (System Gatling) mit einer Kadenz von 4000 Schuss/min. eingebaut. Eine Rumpfstation und zwei Unterflügelstationen ermöglichten das Mitführen diverser Abwurfmunition: Bomben max. 1000 lbs (ca. 450kg), Raketen (Luft/Boden „FFAR 70 mm") und Lenkflugkörpern (Luft/Luft Sidewinder AIM-9B, Luft/Boden AS 30, Luft/Schiff „Kormoran").
video is good, really like the grainy 70's look, the music though, My God, brilliant...absolutely brilliant...well done
lazarus998 2 weeks ago
Indian Air Force fucked this fighter during 1971 indo-pak war
TheArko1490 4 months ago
lol too bad these bad boys were made while the allies still were still re inventing the propellar, o and the nazis whipped up the 1st stealth plane 2 lol.......... jus sayin
ruleireland6 5 months ago
@ruleireland6
lol too bad you dont have any idea what you are talking about. these planes were made in the u.s... and you could see that, they were terrible pieces of crap always in accidents. there was better french fighter that luftwaffe would have bought but the american manufacturer bribed a few people and so...
vzq93 5 months ago
@ruleireland6
oh and did i forget to mention that luftwaffe has never had anything to do with nazis... except the country of origin
vzq93 5 months ago
ok so the us air force has nothin to do with the DoD or Obama lmao
ruleireland6 5 months ago
@ruleireland6
bad example. DoD and Obama are government but nazism is an idealogy
german high comman may have been full of nazis but luftwaffe was as far from nazis as anything in 1930's-1940's could be. and furthermore luftwaffe isnt just nazi germanys air force it's been germanys air force as long as there has been aircraft in the country. it's connection to nazis limits to being under government filled with nazis for a decade.
vzq93 5 months ago
Who is the autor of this song?
freddysarti 8 months ago
Love the video. I was blessed to work on them from 1981 to 1985 for the JABOG32 in Lechfeld/Germany. Thanks for the sweet memories!
jensoramy 1 year ago
Mig 21 won all contests against F-104 Paquistan-India war!
DelNegro10 1 year ago
Germany is such a neat looking country. I lived there from 1987-1991. Never saw a Starfighter. I think the Tornado had replaced them by then.
generalripper1964 1 year ago
It didn´t deserve to be called a widowmaker in the Luftwaffe. Luftwaffe had by far the greatest number of starfighters--around 900--so it is obvious that their loses were high. We in Denmark had 56 starfighters, and lost 13. Also high loses compared to the numbers we had. The fact is that the starfighter was a very demanding and unforgiving aircraft to fly. But also one of the great aircraft of all time. Sadly I didn´t get the chance to se the german Wiking display team.
Badger071 1 year ago
Der beste Fighter von allen kaum abstürze oder probleme xD
CloneShift 1 year ago
@CloneShift In der Vergangenheit mehrmals am Himmel gesehen. Verglichen mit Typen wie Phantom, Draken, Hunter oder zum Beispiel sogar Mirage (!) war dies ein absoluter PSYCHO-FLIEGER, unverzeihlich und wortwörtlich blitzschnell! Irgenwie GRAUSAM elegant!
trident130977 1 year ago
wonderful video. The colours are cold like the War that was figthing at that moment
meschio 1 year ago
Saw the German air force fly these planes in an airshow at Moffett Field, CA and it still marks as one of the fastest airplanes I have ever seen. My flight instructor told me the protocol for a stall in a an F-104 is: bail out! I don't think he was joking! LOL
stinkyboofa 1 year ago
The "widdowmaker".....
antonmagdovich 1 year ago
I used to work on them when they visited RAF Gutersloh.Always my favourite aircraft.Did my cross training at holsten.
xfire7 1 year ago
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G-For Germany Ya!! (if you want to buy a starfighter purchase an acre of ground and wait)...
andyjeff62 2 years ago
great footage - and music - i know this music - please remind me who and what is it
bonifaciomusso 2 years ago 2
what isn`t mentioned is that the many hours and joy that the pilots got flying these planes ----look for the castle tour vodeo,last flight of wtg 61,the vikings demonstration video and of course the clip that they used in the movie the right stuff...
habinder 2 years ago
Original film is called. Der Sonne Entgegen.
oldehove1 2 years ago 12
Star fighter ever in combat with anything? I think Hartmann called it the widow maker. A dangerous airplane to fly.
bilbommer 2 years ago
On 13 January 1967, four Republic of China (Taiwan) Air Force F-104s aircraft engaged a formation of 12 MiG-19s of the People's Liberation Army Air Force over the disputed island of Kinmen. One MiG-19 was shot down.
cyberarmy007 2 years ago 5
It had a design quirk that had some bolts in the wing flaps installed upside down. An old lady in the factory thought it was incorrect to install upside down and installed these bolts right side up. When the plan flew inverted, flex in the wings would jam these incorrectly installed bolts into the mechanism that controls the flaps and the plane would lose control. Several pilots where killed. This is according to Chuck Yeagers autobiography.
glandsink 2 years ago
Great video! i love the music in the background...please tell me who made the music or by whom it is.
Kupernikus92 2 years ago
Thank you very much,
Artist : Aviation Weather
Song : Obscuration
Album : In Flight Program
zimolaviation 2 years ago
I can find info on the band or the album - any help please ?
I love this track - great footage - cheers
bonifaciomusso 2 years ago
Artist:
Aviation Weather
Song:
Obscuration
Album:
In Flight Program
zimolaviation 2 years ago
Das Verteidigungsministerium, allen voran Franz-Josef Strauß wollte den Starfighter als Rückrad der Deutschen Luftverteidigung. Eine Aufgabe die der Starfighter nicht gewachsen war. Das Flugzeug wurde nachträglich mit Elektronik, Waffen und sonstigen Gerätschaften regelrecht "vollgestopft" obwohl es dafür gar nicht gebaut wurde. Außerdem war der Starfighter nicht ausgereift, man kann sagen ein Prototyp. Zwischen Entwurf und Erstflug lagen gerade einmal 3 Jahre. Heutzutage unvorstellbar!
cyberarmy007 2 years ago
Sagenhaftes Video!!!!!!!!!!!!
derfronk1984 2 years ago
Danke*****
und dann auch noch Aufnahme vom JaboG 31 Boelcke aus Nörvenich, Yeah. Als Pänz im Sommer mindestens einmal die Woche da hingeradelt^^
Pikschwarz 2 years ago 2
This video is fantastic!!!!
stregaverona 2 years ago
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ohh sorry ...
I´m just interested in the main weapon of the starfighter...did they use the gun ore air-to-air-missiles ?
deltaflucrum 2 years ago
cool was ist eigentlich die hauptbewaffnung ?
MG oder luft-luft-raketen ?
deltaflucrum 2 years ago
deltafulcrum.I'm very sorry for the delay. there was not missiles on the F-104. just M61 Vulcan 20 mm Gatling gun. but i'm not sure, the italian F-104S was upgraded to carry 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder or 2 AIM-7 Sparrow ( air-to-air missiles )
zimolaviation 2 years ago
Hello Zimolaviation.
The F-104 G in Luftwaffe service was armed with Vulcan and 2 sidewinder.
In Italy the S version was armed with 2 sidewinder and 2 Sparrow. After, the ASA version was armed with 2 sidewinder and 2 Aspide. But not Vulcan for S and ASA version.
The Starfighter is beautiful.
Hello.
stregaverona 2 years ago
thank you very much . grazie mille per queste informazioni
zimolaviation 2 years ago
stregaverona: Beautiful? The Starfighter was the biggest aircraft-misunderstanding since 1945! The F-104 was a widowmaker!
During its period of service with the German armed forces, about 290 German Starfighters were lost in accidents, just under 30 percent of the total force. Exactly 116 pilots were killed.
Canada had the unenviable record of losing over 50 percent of its 200 single-seat CF-104s in flying accidents.
cyberarmy007 2 years ago
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And the states says terrible things about the Mig 21 lol.
bilbommer 2 years ago
What has that got to do with anything?
cyberarmy007 2 years ago 2
When you are zipping along at just under the mach some 10-15 metres above the ground, stuff happens. The 104 was a sterling piece of kit, and no-one who flew it or worked on it will dispute this.
starfighter441 2 years ago
@cyberarmy007 It's interesting reading all the comments. While I always thought the 104 was an impressive looking piece of hardware., it is my least favorite of the Century series. Just not enough wing. Too much on the edge. Even looks dangerous.
kolbpilot 1 year ago
deltaflucrum:
Unter dem Cockpit wurde links eine sechsläufige 20-mm M 61 A-1 „Vulcan" Maschinenkanone (System Gatling) mit einer Kadenz von 4000 Schuss/min. eingebaut. Eine Rumpfstation und zwei Unterflügelstationen ermöglichten das Mitführen diverser Abwurfmunition: Bomben max. 1000 lbs (ca. 450kg), Raketen (Luft/Boden „FFAR 70 mm") und Lenkflugkörpern (Luft/Luft Sidewinder AIM-9B, Luft/Boden AS 30, Luft/Schiff „Kormoran").
cyberarmy007 2 years ago
great
lecobra67 2 years ago 2
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deltaflucrum 2 years ago