Wow. I have his recording of this, and this is just testiment to his skill and musicianship. I've played this piece as an orchestral player, and it is really hard to both play and understand. But make no mistake, this is as REAL as it gets in classical music today. It does not repeat, but varies the modes and themes throughout. I play a lot of modern classical, and this really is a fantastic concerto. Bravo, Gil!
I agree with your comment. I would further say that Bartok cannot be readily comprehended and appreciated at first encounter. The fruits of his efforts require time and effort on the part of the listener. Once one "gets it" - its like drinking a Chateau Letour.
I love classical music as much as the next person but come on, elite? Wise up. All I get from this is elite snobbery and "Hey! Look at me show off and repeat consecutive phrases". Not cool. Go back to real classical music. Maybe if I learnt the piece I would understand it better but all I'm getting is a slur of noise.
I just don't appreciate this style/genre of classical music. Harmonic dissonance is fantastic in small doses, as a means of contrast in the music, but too much is overwhelming :/
Well i think you need to expand your ears... if you can't handle THIS dissonance... what can you handle???? But to say that it;s not "real" classical music is absurd.... Bartok is not some amateur off the street. He's a famous well known composer whose music is established in concert repertoire.
I never said he was an amateur and I know many a person who has performed a piece of his but it just appeal to me, no matter if it were standard repertoire or not. I can "handle" dissonance after it resolves but this Hindemith approach to harmony, again, doesn't work for me. It's no reason to start a flame war over.
At least for me, I had to change my way of thinking in order to appreciate more challenging 20th century works. Obviously these melodies aren't tangible in the sense that you'll be humming them throughout the day, but these melodies represent certain "ideas" or "shapes". Yet still within these ideas, there underlies an incredibly complex harmonic structure that is way above my level of theory, but to my ear, satisfies me in a way that romantic (my favorite period) pieces cannot.
I love "true" classical music as much as the next person but come on, elite? Wise up. The only elite thing here are your guys elite snobbish comments of how you believe you are some sort of hyper intelligent being yet you do not know that the song is called "Strangers" in the Night? Unlucky. Back on topic: without learning the piece I can't understand it so at the minute all I'm getting is noise. Bring back real classical music.
Why is this work not played more? It is easily one of the great violin concertos of any era. Too difficult? It does takes a large, skilled orchestra. I would jump at the opportunity to hear a live performance.
exactly what I think, about this one and a few others, Khachaturian, Goldmark, Korngold, there are lots of great works, even some considered "student level" concertos (like Kabalevsky Concerto) that I would jump at to see live.
Without a doubt, one the greatest violin concetos of the twentieth century. The final peroration is stunning; those two final orchestral chords? Genius.
this sounds like computer music like nancarrow but its not it's like live...CRAZY!
rebecsound 1 year ago
the greatest quality of Shaham is that he's a musician before beeing a violonist.
minasgekos 1 year ago
Wow. I have his recording of this, and this is just testiment to his skill and musicianship. I've played this piece as an orchestral player, and it is really hard to both play and understand. But make no mistake, this is as REAL as it gets in classical music today. It does not repeat, but varies the modes and themes throughout. I play a lot of modern classical, and this really is a fantastic concerto. Bravo, Gil!
jlgviolin 2 years ago
Yes, it is an marvellous masterpiece, with genial structure! Bartók's one of the greatest classical composers.
chillida09 2 years ago
Third movement is my favorite and Shaham has done a stellar job! Thanks so much for sharing..I enjoyed!!!!
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
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shangqinli 3 years ago
I agree with your comment. I would further say that Bartok cannot be readily comprehended and appreciated at first encounter. The fruits of his efforts require time and effort on the part of the listener. Once one "gets it" - its like drinking a Chateau Letour.
calloffthedogs 3 years ago
I love classical music as much as the next person but come on, elite? Wise up. All I get from this is elite snobbery and "Hey! Look at me show off and repeat consecutive phrases". Not cool. Go back to real classical music. Maybe if I learnt the piece I would understand it better but all I'm getting is a slur of noise.
decky1990 2 years ago
Bartok isn't REAL classical music????..... you're an idiot...
NiceVideos11 2 years ago
I just don't appreciate this style/genre of classical music. Harmonic dissonance is fantastic in small doses, as a means of contrast in the music, but too much is overwhelming :/
decky1990 2 years ago
Well i think you need to expand your ears... if you can't handle THIS dissonance... what can you handle???? But to say that it;s not "real" classical music is absurd.... Bartok is not some amateur off the street. He's a famous well known composer whose music is established in concert repertoire.
NiceVideos11 2 years ago
I never said he was an amateur and I know many a person who has performed a piece of his but it just appeal to me, no matter if it were standard repertoire or not. I can "handle" dissonance after it resolves but this Hindemith approach to harmony, again, doesn't work for me. It's no reason to start a flame war over.
decky1990 2 years ago
At least for me, I had to change my way of thinking in order to appreciate more challenging 20th century works. Obviously these melodies aren't tangible in the sense that you'll be humming them throughout the day, but these melodies represent certain "ideas" or "shapes". Yet still within these ideas, there underlies an incredibly complex harmonic structure that is way above my level of theory, but to my ear, satisfies me in a way that romantic (my favorite period) pieces cannot.
DrParkMD517 2 years ago 2
Very well said!
decky1990 2 years ago
I love "true" classical music as much as the next person but come on, elite? Wise up. The only elite thing here are your guys elite snobbish comments of how you believe you are some sort of hyper intelligent being yet you do not know that the song is called "Strangers" in the Night? Unlucky. Back on topic: without learning the piece I can't understand it so at the minute all I'm getting is noise. Bring back real classical music.
decky1990 2 years ago
stupid comment. sorry I wasted my time reading it.
calloffthedogs 2 years ago
Why is this work not played more? It is easily one of the great violin concertos of any era. Too difficult? It does takes a large, skilled orchestra. I would jump at the opportunity to hear a live performance.
ipmoic 4 years ago
exactly what I think, about this one and a few others, Khachaturian, Goldmark, Korngold, there are lots of great works, even some considered "student level" concertos (like Kabalevsky Concerto) that I would jump at to see live.
fiddlinmatt 4 years ago
Without a doubt, one the greatest violin concetos of the twentieth century. The final peroration is stunning; those two final orchestral chords? Genius.
ihadaralf 4 years ago
Look at Marcovici's rendition too!!! Shaham is a spectacular player!
zebatida 4 years ago
I love this concert so much. This version is incredible, shaham have a beautiful discurs. Formidable orchestra. Thanks!
losdejamescraik 4 years ago
wow what a sound of violin!!bravo
jimviolinist 4 years ago 2
bravissimo!!! and i miss my hometown :(
occhioblublu55 4 years ago