@Kaynos It's the new design because the sliding ramps all failed, so over 3/4 of the fleet is either non-accessible or has a sliding ramp that they don't use often enough, so it seizes up and causes mechanical failure, so the drivers are advised not to use the ramps! Some accessibility! HA!
i noticed that theres a little strap on the top right hand corner of theramp and thats wats preventng it form opening. i think drivers are too lazy to notice the strap
@DYMD1 Well, manual lifting is certainly an improvement over the previous model that slid from the undercarriage of the bus, which constantly was stuck or caused the bus to stall. This way if the bus lost power, they could still find a way to get the wheelchair out. Unfortunately for all of these hundreds of millions of dollars of investments, there is rarely a wheelchair in sight on our accessible buses... Instead, people in wheelchairs have moved on to the next obstacle,and forgot about buses.
i see that the new novabus artics are havong a lot and i mean A LOT! of kinks. one of the rear doors wont close, and now the ramp wont even work properly!
Atleast it's only a prototype, but their new production model 2009's aren't fairing much better, the ramp still needs that nudge to get it open. The hydraulic jack just isn't strong enough for the weight, and it can only get worse over time with wear and tear and age.
for some reason why if canada and the us are suppose to be similar vehicle wise how come their buses look like a mix of a American and European model put together???? especially the novabus lfs it looks like a model straight from europe wit a little U.S. design.
The Novabus LFS is a bus model taken straight from the European bus book of designs. Infact it's a straight out copy of the Den Oudsten European bus. And the first generation they made here for Montreal did not hold up very well to the climate and maintenance schedule that the mechanics were accustomed to, but Novabus has decided to buy back all of their buses at current market value from 1996 to 1998 and and replace them with a newer model during 2009 - 2001,alongside the artics that we'll get.
its a bad idea to use the regular bus for the well chair, the ramp work time to time and at rush hours or when the bus is full, ask people to get in the back so they can get in.
Every time Ive been on the "new buses", the rear door ramp always fails and the passengers have to wait for the next bus, anyone knows what the problem is?
Well, if it was in Montreal, then it would be because Novabus ramps are not made solid enough, and Montreal doesn't use them often enough to care really. I've been on a bus where they kicked us out because the ramp extended then broke and the bus leaned over to one side and the ramp wouldn't go back in.
Once, on line 15 with the current fleet, there was a a wheelchair passenger. The ramp on the rear door opened, but refused to close, so the bus could not start. It was delayed like 20 minues before another bus passed and the other driver helped kick the thing back in.
Hope the newer models won't have this problem anymore, but from what I see on this vid, not sure really...
Way faster than a lift.
SuperToyotaLexus 9 months ago
Sliding ramp would be easier, weird design....
Kaynos 11 months ago
@Kaynos It's the new design because the sliding ramps all failed, so over 3/4 of the fleet is either non-accessible or has a sliding ramp that they don't use often enough, so it seizes up and causes mechanical failure, so the drivers are advised not to use the ramps! Some accessibility! HA!
MysticMTL 11 months ago
@Kaynos In Victoria BC, all the buses have this style ramp.
talldude123 6 months ago
i noticed that theres a little strap on the top right hand corner of theramp and thats wats preventng it form opening. i think drivers are too lazy to notice the strap
cactuarizamoron 2 years ago
@cactuarizamoron the strap is for manual lifting..If there is problem to it,manual lifting of the ramp is needed.
DYMD1 9 months ago
@DYMD1 Well, manual lifting is certainly an improvement over the previous model that slid from the undercarriage of the bus, which constantly was stuck or caused the bus to stall. This way if the bus lost power, they could still find a way to get the wheelchair out. Unfortunately for all of these hundreds of millions of dollars of investments, there is rarely a wheelchair in sight on our accessible buses... Instead, people in wheelchairs have moved on to the next obstacle,and forgot about buses.
MysticMTL 9 months ago
i see that the new novabus artics are havong a lot and i mean A LOT! of kinks. one of the rear doors wont close, and now the ramp wont even work properly!
cactuarizamoron 2 years ago
Atleast it's only a prototype, but their new production model 2009's aren't fairing much better, the ramp still needs that nudge to get it open. The hydraulic jack just isn't strong enough for the weight, and it can only get worse over time with wear and tear and age.
MysticMTL 2 years ago
for some reason why if canada and the us are suppose to be similar vehicle wise how come their buses look like a mix of a American and European model put together???? especially the novabus lfs it looks like a model straight from europe wit a little U.S. design.
vze428s7 3 years ago
The Novabus LFS is a bus model taken straight from the European bus book of designs. Infact it's a straight out copy of the Den Oudsten European bus. And the first generation they made here for Montreal did not hold up very well to the climate and maintenance schedule that the mechanics were accustomed to, but Novabus has decided to buy back all of their buses at current market value from 1996 to 1998 and and replace them with a newer model during 2009 - 2001,alongside the artics that we'll get.
MysticMTL 3 years ago
its a bad idea to use the regular bus for the well chair, the ramp work time to time and at rush hours or when the bus is full, ask people to get in the back so they can get in.
DonKarnage1 3 years ago
i saw one of these in laval altough ive never been on one i havent seen this at the bellechase one either :(
unibrow9 3 years ago
Every time Ive been on the "new buses", the rear door ramp always fails and the passengers have to wait for the next bus, anyone knows what the problem is?
Bergstaller01 3 years ago
Well, if it was in Montreal, then it would be because Novabus ramps are not made solid enough, and Montreal doesn't use them often enough to care really. I've been on a bus where they kicked us out because the ramp extended then broke and the bus leaned over to one side and the ramp wouldn't go back in.
MysticMTL 3 years ago
Once, on line 15 with the current fleet, there was a a wheelchair passenger. The ramp on the rear door opened, but refused to close, so the bus could not start. It was delayed like 20 minues before another bus passed and the other driver helped kick the thing back in.
Hope the newer models won't have this problem anymore, but from what I see on this vid, not sure really...
tony0964 3 years ago
Well.. I just hope that this is a prototype issue, and not a sign of more trouble to come.
MysticMTL 3 years ago
As usual, those Nova ramps during deploy will always slow.
general682002 3 years ago 6