arguing who is the greatest pg of all time is like arguing who is the greatest rock band...you're never gonna come to a decision everyone agrees with....but that's what i love about sports...the disagreements lol
its great watching John Stockton play because he uses his basketball IQ instead of raw athleticism like today's point guards. Its really nice seeing a "pure point guard." To bad there aren't as many left in today's game...
The PERFECT Point Guard. I'm glad he gets mentioned in the same breath as Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird. Amazing player. Still owns the greatest, most unselfish record ever. MOST CAREER ASSISTS.
That last pass was nnot an assist. Unless I am missing something here, you cannot have the guy take the shot after he dribbles in order for it to count as an assist.
Malone only dribbled it once before dunking it, making it an assist. As long as a basket is made after a pass and the player who scored only takes 2 dribbles (or less), the player who made the pass still gets the assist.
Magic wasn't a great defender, but he was smart enough not to leave alot of room, and could close the gap, forcing the opponent to shoot in haste, or pass through contested hands. And besides, the game back then wasn't like today. Back then no scrawny 6 foot guard would dare to drive to the hoop without getting a bloodied face and a no call. Today you have players like Tony Parker, Derrick Rose, John Wall, Russell Westbrook, Aaron Brooks(on the suns), Devin Harris, Stephen Curry You have to D-up
If you see Nash play basketball, and throwing out stupid fan bias, you'll see exactly what I am talking about. Don't tell me Tony Parker, Jason Terry, and Devin Harris are just THAT good?!
Cannot win without defending, no matter how pretty the offense looks. A.C. Green is a very good defender, replacing the aging Michael Cooper. Kurt Rambis (despite his goofy appearance) always played solid and banged around inside, denying the offensive player the position to score.
@bayboitonga Yep, Showtime was very entertaining to watch. I miss the old days, back when basketball was a real sport. No blood, no foul. Fights every other game. Hard-nose defense. If you go inside, the opponents will elbow you in the face, just to show you that this is my space, you come driving up in here again, and I'll clobber you.
@robbiemo10 Stupidest thing I've heard. Rings are simply about luck and situation. Look at Robert Horry with 7. Hell even Adam Morrison has a ring. So does Scalabrine. Does that make them better than Stockton or Malone? Stockton isn't the greatest ever as a basketball player but as a point guard he might just be, along with Magic.
@Dystopia1980 But I know he's a great player no doubt, not overall imo you can only be remembered as one of THE GREATEST ever if you win a ring. Saying stuff such as 'Morrison is better as he has more rings' is stupid because of course he isn't better than Stockton, but as for superstars I think they are measured by success = ultimately rings.
To all the young athletes that dream of becoming NBA stars. This man has more assists and more steals than any man that ever played in the national basketball association and he never dunked a basketball in an NBA game and you can count on two fingers the amount of behind the back passes he ever made. Follow your dreams but remember that.
@Bracketbot He's a decent shooters and a good passer, but thats it. On defense he isn't there. If you don't play defense, you are not a good player at all, despite whatever you can do on offense (and he's not Lebron, or Melo (who can score off will)~ he needs a scorer on his team to facilitate the offense and allow the defense to give him room) Nash's game is dribble-drive inside, looks at the defense and either finishes or passes it out. He'll shoot a jumper when he's open.
1. he's not a decent shooter, he's one of the greatest of all time (statistically the greatest)
2. he's not a good passer, he's one of the greatest of all time (lead league in assists 5 years)
3. Nash plays defense, you just don't watch. He's not lock down but he dives on the floor for lose balls, takes a lot of charges and uses his mind to beat opponents
4. he doesn't need scorers. Amare left and he still leads the league in assists. In 05 7 suns had career highs in points due to nash
@vertrecordings There is no comparison between John Stockton and Steve Nash, who is the better point guard. Diving for loose balls isn't defense- its hustle, and taking charges is useless if you give opponents space to move around and force your big guys to foul inside, and get into foul trouble.
A point guard doesn't need to score unless they have to. They facilitate the offense. However in the league today, dominated by the power of guards, defense is a must to. Nash doesn't play defense...
@vertrecordings The only charges I see Nash draw, is when he is the only one back in defense on a fastbreak. Sure Nash can dish, but if you can't play defense you go home. That's why the Suns didn't make the playoffs twice in 5 years. (Mike D'Antoni is also at fault, because he doesn't believe in defense). In the West Conference Finals, Nash couldn't stop Tony Parker or Devin Harris putting up huge numbers. Watching Nash guarding them during the games was like watching Shaq shoot free throws.
@vertrecordings I'd take John Stockton, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, and Kevin Johnson over Steve Nash. Only because Nash doesn't play defense. In this ERA, where point guards dominate the game, you need a PG that can play defense. Nuff' said. Nash only plays one side of the game and he does that well, but that won't make him better than the players that I said. If you cut off Nash's looks as he drives inside, he can only throw it up and complain to the ref when there is no foul called.
Alright, I'll take the player who has more MVPs than all of those players combined. As mentioned earlier, Nash may not be a lock down defender, but he's not a liability by any means. Watch some Suns games and you will see Nash talking charges, getting in passing lanes, fighting for lose balls, ect. If you cut off Nash on the drive, he can pull up, pass, or out-wit you to get to the basket. I'd take Stockton over Nash but you are not selling those other players too well.
@vertrecordings Not a Lock-down defender, thats being way too nice? Nash can't play defense at all. If you are a suns fan, have you seen the playoff games? Where he lets parker drive to the basketball almost every single play, and getting hacked with an and-1? Once defenders cut nash on the drive they will close in (Nash can't pass it out now, so all he can do is throw it up and hopefully there will be a foul called). You don't need to sell players- just watch them play. MVP means nothing.
@vertrecordings You are not going to win championships with a high caliber offense. No matter how good offensively they are. Suns live and die by Nash. You can see the past playoff games. Once they stop Nash, the offense fails. You cannot give players such as Tony Parker and Chris Paul room to operate. You might as well quit and go home. Lose balls again is Hustle, not defense. Nash's defense is purely in transition (drawing a charge mostly), he never actually does any adequate defending.
"I'd take John Stockton, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, and Kevin Johnson over Steve Nash."
How many championships do these players have? (the same as Nash)
Look at who the Suns lose to in the post season: LA SA and Dallas. These teams beat them due to low post dominance, which all teams need to win titles (something phoenix never had). Nash always has new players and coaches around him, yet continues to thrive. Also, you can't tell me the 87-88 lakers were not great defensively
"I'd take John Stockton, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, and Kevin Johnson over Steve Nash"
Aside from paytons title in miami, none of these players have yielded championships.
Look at who Phoenix losses to in the post season (LA DAL SA). All these teams have dominant low post options, which is what ultimately stops phoenix. Over the years, players and coaches have changed, but nash still puts up the same numbers. He's that good
and btw, the 87-89 lakers played the same style as the suns
@vertrecordings No point in arguing with you because you don't understand basketball. Payton has a ring. With Nash letting Parker , Terry and Harris drive to the hoop, he got Diaw, Shaq, Stoudemaire, Marks into foul trouble and they couldn't adequately defense the post. (they are not great defensive players to begin with). Magic Johnson. Kareem, Michael Cooper, all could play defense and it was very effective despite their showtime antics.
1. once again, you fail to realize that none of the players you listed have rings despite get casts (i said payton got one as a role player, which isn't the same)
2. this is also false. gasol, dirk and duncan score mostly off of their own offense (posting up and creating) this is why phoenix got shaq: to stop these bigs from man-handling the suns. has nothing to do with nash
3. you deleted your own comment in which you said high caliber offensive minded teams cant win titles (lakers)
@vertrecordings Without Stoudemaire, Dirk, Nash isn't in the playoffs. Shaq is useless in helping the suns defend IF he is sitting on the bench with foul trouble. Have I not said this many times? NASH allows dribble penetration inside. So the bigs guys (Shaq for example will have to leave their own man to contest, and ususally leads to a foul~ Shaq doesn't have lateral quickness and isn't a help defender). Then Duncan, Gasol, Dirk can have a run of the town as Shaq sits on the bench.
@vertrecordings Have you not been understanding what I am saying? Which comment was that? High Caliber offensive teams must have defense, otherwise they aren't going to win championships. Its simple. The Showtime Lakers had Michael Cooper, A.C. Green. James worthy shut down Clyde Drexler. Noone is going to score over Kareem... not if he can help it. Kurt Rambis always banged inside, denying postion. Magic cut off passing lanes. Only retards don't play D and expect to win it all.
@vertrecordings At least Kevin Johnson, GP, John Stockton, Jason Kidd got into the Finals (something Nash couldn't do). But you can't compare casts, from era to era. Steve Kerr wasn't smart enough to understand Nash's ineffectiveness to allow penetration inside. (Should have picked up a good interior, weak side help defender like Marcus Camby). But overtime, there will be fouls called on Camby as well.
And what is False is exactly? I didn't delete any comment and I just explained the lakers.
@vertrecordings Anything else you want to me explain and refute? (The suns weren't a defensive team.. the only legit defender was Raja Bell, and he was losing his perks from when he was with the SPURS). The Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, play great defense. The Showtime Lakers were not exception, despite the same offensive style. Defensively the Showtime Lakers got it down, stopping the Blazers, Celtics, Jazz, Mavs, Pistons. Most of the showtime antics were off turnovers of the opponent
you're going away from the original conversation. you said you'd take all these players over nash, yet none of them have titles, nor mvps (nash has 2). i then pointed out nashs failures in the post season were largely due to a lack of a low post threat (something 95% of championship teams need). nothing really to argue beyond that. Nash may not be gary payton defensively, but he brings high energy and was not the liability you label him as. give respect where respect is due.
@vertrecordings TBH, Nash didn't deserve those MVPs.(you have D-Wade comming off a fantastic season, LBJ dominating, and Kobe carrying his starless team) And again you cannot compare ERAs. The reason why the players I mentioned did not get MVPs is because they were in a league featuring MJ, pippen, Clyde Drexler, Sir Charles, Hakeem, David Robinson, Malone, the list continues. But they did get into the finals with alot of competitive teams, than Nash (who has not been to the finals yet).
@vertrecordings Nash is a liability on defense. He allows dribble penetration inside. If you see him play against other teams such as the Hornets, Bulls, and Spurs, you can see just how much of a liability he is. Sure he is great offensively, but again as I said before, when teams guard Nash, they understand he is the facilitator of the offense. Denying a passing entry to another player/cutting passing lanes, Nash will have to take the shot, throw a bad pass, or try to draw a foul inside.
@vertrecordings You said earlier the problem was not having a low post/ inside defender, but now you said a Low Post scorer? Low post means nothing. They had Marion, Stoudemaire, and Nash. Scoring is not a problem for the Suns. It never was. It was DEFENSE. Once the Suns traded Marion away for Shaq, I was intrigued on how this was going to work and it didn't work.
Nash will never have my respect, and Carmelo won't either. They think they can win by scoring more points. It's quite sad.
You still fail to realize that none of the other players you listed have won titles (except payton as a role player).
Nash has been to the conference finals 5 times, frankly with 5 completely different team. He never had the bigman needed to finish it off (a guy (or duo) who can dominate the low block on both ends which 95% of championship teams have). Nash should have your respect. He's a class act and shows how much can be achieved through hard work and dedication.
john was a true point guard. a facilitator and ball stealer. other point guards use the position to handle the ball to score. a true point looks for the pass first.
you're a pussy. the nba today is full of incredibly talented and well respected men. just because they're colored and have tattoos doesn't mean they're not. grow up
Good for you. If you cannot even remotely give me a educated response, then you need to shut your face. The fact is the NBA is nowhere as popular as it was in the 80`s and 90`s.
@RajonRondoVideos BULLL SHIT HE WOULD HE IS A SMART ASS PLAYER AND COULD SHOOT THE HELL OUT THE BALL.... THEY WAY THEY PLAY DEFENSE THIS DAY HE WOULD AVE 24 A GAME
2 games with over 20, while Stockton had 36 season and 4 playoff games with 20+ assists. His 24 game doesn't compare to Stocktons since Stockton just turned the ball over once while Rondo 7 times. Quite an impressive game for Stockton really, had made 12/16 FG (75%) and accumulated 6 steals. Credit to Rondo, though, for getting 10 boards considering he has all-star bigs to take care of the boards.
@walteur haha if John Stockton had ANY team that had a label of "BIG THREE" on it, I'm sure things would be different. I mean Karl Malone was great don't get me wrong, but Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen AND PAUL PIERCE from a couple years ago? GTFO, hater. I could fucking rack up 5 or 6 APG playing PG with those 3.
@MikeyIV Are you serious? Jeff Hornacek in his prime was deadly. And the Jazz was a powerhouse in the 90's. So yeah They both can get credit for having great players to pass too. And NO ONE on the current Celtics rival Karl Malone's presence on the Jazz, buddy
@Mic4567 You're gonna compare Jeff Hornacek to Ray allen, paul pierce, or kevin garnett? He was never even an allstar. The big 3 are locked 1st ballot future hall of famers. I can't even believe I'm discussing this...
@MikeyIV you sound like one of those 10 year old kids that likes the celtics, only because they have the big 3. no diss. i'm just saying that that's what you sound like lol.but yo i dig your music
John Stockton's face is the combination of being chill and serious. He looks serious, but he isn't screaming and getting mad. One of my favorite basketball players ever.
If i have to choose one guard to be in my team, it would have to be Stock. Beast of a guard. It would be stupid not to consider him as one of the best of all time.
I have a question on that last "assist", I thought an assist was when the person who receives the pass does NOT dribble before shooting. Well on that last play the guy dribbled once. Please explain someone?
as long as its under 2 dribbles, it's an assist. 3 dribbles or more cancel it. As you can see Malone caught the pass, dribbled once, then dunked. It's an assist.
i think steve nash vs john stockton vs jason kidd cause three of them are the great passer in the nba now is steve nash vs jason kidd all of them have more assists cause three of them are unselfish players
Stockton, IMO, is the best PURE point guard to ever play the game.
I can't think of anybody that was as durable and unselfish as John was. He was the consummate teammate and competitor who ALWAYS put the betterment of the team above statisfying his own ego.
In that sense, Stockton was an anachronism in this age of ostentation, and instant gratification. His game was a throwback to bygone eras.
Watching Steve Nash play is redolent to the type of game that John used to play.
@UR2H Talent wise sure. But John played longer and didn't have the talent around him that Magic had. It's a shame Magic didn't finish his career the way he should of and a shame John never won a ring. It's always a good debate.
Just because Magic could play virtually every position doesn't make him a point forward. He played his career at the point position and is easily regarded as the purest passer ever in the NBA. A pure point guard is a player who knows how to break down defenses and distribute the ball to open players. Magic Johnson was great at making his teammates around him better which is the primary duty of a pure point guard.
1. True. However Magic Johnson played PG. He wasn't a forward like Lebron, Pippen, Bird, Lamar Odom, Boris Diaw or any of the other point forwards in the game. While he can be labeled as a point forward I guess, he is still considered a point guard.
2. So you think what I stated didn't apply to Magic? While Magic may easily be the best PG ever at running the break, Magic was also great in the half court set. Everything I stated about a pure point guard applies to Magic's game.
In addition a pure point guard is a PG that is a pass first shoot second play maker. While this role is exactly what John Stockton was, so was Magic. There are not many point guards that could play multiple positions like Magic could. Oscar is one even though he was more of a combo guard than a point guard. Magic was clearly a point guard.
@UR2H The fact that magic was a PG was impressive, but he never played center. It was a distortion of the media. He just tipped the ball off. He played the wing, and how he always played for his entire career. Bird posted bigs WAY more than Magic. Bird was only 1inch taller than magic. Magic had the prettiest passes and the ugliest jumpshot as they say...When dennis johnson was injured bird averaged 14 assists a game with his reg 25ppg and at least 8 rebounds. He also averaged 10 reb career.
Respond to this video...Magic was versatile. But bird was as much if not more versatile, and through the 80's magic's teams were far more superior than bird's except for the '86 and '83 celts. Pippen Odom and Diaw dont belong in the same paragraph as Bird. Pippen close, but no cigar. Pound for pound magic always had 3 other create your own shot players and himself. Bird had Mchale and dennis johnson for reliability. Bird could've had as many apg as magic but he HAD to score.
@usnate1First of all I said Magic could virtually play all 5 positions not that he did. Only reason I even said that was in reference to a comment labeling Magic as a point forward. The same reason goes for why I brought up those players. It wasn't to compare. I agree those players had no business being in the same sentence as Bird in any regard.
@UR2H I just found it interesting that most say that magic was the more versatile one when bird mattered to the celts way more than magic did to the lakers. In more ways I mean. And the same goes for the assists with bird, Which is the only point i was trying to make when i was mentioning DJ being injured.
@usnate1 Bird was a forward and Magic was a guard. Bird was around the basket in position for rebounds much more often than Magic was. Had Magic played forward he could have grabbed just as many rebounds as Bird. I agree that Bird was as versatile a player as they come but so was Magic.
this guy is really underated.....i mean he leads all time in assists and steals......and check out how many games he played.....in his whole career i think he missed like 22 games, and maybe like 18 were in one season or something then here then here ground water ground water
8Shorty7 that is why watch NBA perhaps even though it has its issues. I am following this exercise routine that's used by NBA players - (50 inch vertical [dot] com) - I already jump few ins higher and being more impactful on the court!
Stockton is one of the most deceptive players to ever play the game. You think he's slow, but he could blow by you. You think he sucks at D, but he's one of the greatest defenders of all time. Dude was bad ass.
@uberathlete YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. John Stockton said hey I might be short, But I can bang with BEST of them. John Stockton was one tough bad ass who was deceptive as HELL and never quits. I know that for SURE.
@uberathlete he holds a record in steals if i am not mistaken... anyway, the 24 assists were very significant. it's also the same as making 48 points for your team(let's say that every pass he makes the other makes a 2-pointer) and then add your own points. many people judge players' skills by ppg but they don't look at assists. its a great contribution for your team.
@uberathlete Stockton was a very solid defender. Basically Nash's offensive game is comparable to Stockton's, but Stockton could actually defend well, which is why imo he's the better point guard.
Did anyone just hear Jon Barry put Steve Nash as the #2 passer AHEAD of John Stockton? LOL. He said that "80% of his passes were to Karl Malone." And that his passes were not as difficult. And he had Mark Jackson AHEAD of Jason Kidd. WOW.
if u guys complaining about the NBA team names... search it on google.. every team has meanings..
LA lakers doesnt hav mny lakes.. of course..
but the real owner of lakers was from another country(i forgot).. a country that has so mny lakes.. but they transferred to LA but didnt change the name...
anyway, stockton is definitely has the all time assists per game... followed by magic johnson and steve nash.. xD
Why would you say that? Just because he didn't shit his pants every time something went wrong and start yelling? Every single time the Jazz needed somebody to step up and make a big play it was John Stockton .... Every Single Time for 19 YEARS .... John Stockton was the guy leading his team on the floor. Charisma and being a leader isn't about yelling .... it''s about making things happen when it counts.
I'm a Jazz fan and this was a different era. Numbers don't lie & achieving those numbers takes charisma. Granted his style isn't like that of todays acrobatic thug ballers but that's what the NBA has evolved into...endorsements, thugs, and acrobatics.
It's a bad time for the NBA IMO. Nothin' like the 90's.
Ironic that was against Magic.
CLewey44 1 month ago
i know his daughter
KingofPho75 1 month ago
@KingofPho75 dont u know tiffany nguyen? and play words with friends with her?
toasteeze 1 month ago
he's not better then scott skiles but they remind me of eachother
jayshell05 2 months ago
arguing who is the greatest pg of all time is like arguing who is the greatest rock band...you're never gonna come to a decision everyone agrees with....but that's what i love about sports...the disagreements lol
ryan49er1 2 months ago
its great watching John Stockton play because he uses his basketball IQ instead of raw athleticism like today's point guards. Its really nice seeing a "pure point guard." To bad there aren't as many left in today's game...
Freestylssz 3 months ago
@Freestylssz chris paul, rajon rondo, steve nash?
GammaBoom 1 month ago
1:04 omg... pure wonder.
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The PERFECT Point Guard. I'm glad he gets mentioned in the same breath as Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and Larry Bird. Amazing player. Still owns the greatest, most unselfish record ever. MOST CAREER ASSISTS.
Mic4567 3 months ago
chris smoove my ass
paradiZZio26 5 months ago
Stockton looks like a choir boy but he was one of the toughest players in the league
LakerKev 6 months ago 9
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chris smoove does WAY better....lols Chris smoove is the best PG (2k seris).
Noob1342 6 months ago
miss stockton but damn that court hurt my eyes
ranpo677 6 months ago
golden age of nba,nowadays is all about who is the most athletic player
coulthard1984 6 months ago 2
@coulthard1984 so true. all muscle no brains. sure wish i could've watched more games from that era.
hugmeshootme 6 months ago
"w/ stockton in the building u can't throw the ball...carelessly" lol i like how the commentator pauses prolly cuz he didnt wanna embarras LA
Livinglifehigh 7 months ago
nash in his prime was like the modern day stockton!
Livinglifehigh 7 months ago
@Livinglifehigh i love nash, but he never had the defense that stockton had,
hugmeshootme 6 months ago 2
JOHN STOCKTON
JASON KIDD
MICHAEL JORDAN
crodevil1000 7 months ago
that were real assist, not like the lebron james ones
davidrbl 7 months ago
I wish him and Karl wouldve won at least one ring at some point
paulwhitemon 7 months ago 21
@paulwhitemon apparently there was this guy named michael jordan who kinda prevented that.... i think thats right
squid919 3 weeks ago
John Stockton just amazing player of the nba.
nbalife4real11 7 months ago
Happy John Stockton Day... John Stockton...the greatest PG of all-time.
Whateverintheworld 7 months ago
That last pass was nnot an assist. Unless I am missing something here, you cannot have the guy take the shot after he dribbles in order for it to count as an assist.
Youngisgod 8 months ago
@Youngisgod they can dribble and still have it be an assist.... they just have to set up the basket
Tantrum0190 8 months ago
@Youngisgod
Malone only dribbled it once before dunking it, making it an assist. As long as a basket is made after a pass and the player who scored only takes 2 dribbles (or less), the player who made the pass still gets the assist.
elzombito5678 3 hours ago
Man, how can someone not like John? Just look at how selfless and unflashy he is! Awesome.
Shotgunnova 8 months ago
Magic wasn't a great defender, but he was smart enough not to leave alot of room, and could close the gap, forcing the opponent to shoot in haste, or pass through contested hands. And besides, the game back then wasn't like today. Back then no scrawny 6 foot guard would dare to drive to the hoop without getting a bloodied face and a no call. Today you have players like Tony Parker, Derrick Rose, John Wall, Russell Westbrook, Aaron Brooks(on the suns), Devin Harris, Stephen Curry You have to D-up
ldrsquad 9 months ago
If you see Nash play basketball, and throwing out stupid fan bias, you'll see exactly what I am talking about. Don't tell me Tony Parker, Jason Terry, and Devin Harris are just THAT good?!
Cannot win without defending, no matter how pretty the offense looks. A.C. Green is a very good defender, replacing the aging Michael Cooper. Kurt Rambis (despite his goofy appearance) always played solid and banged around inside, denying the offensive player the position to score.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
stocktons assist is AITE..but when you see magic dish em out...ITS a fkken circus out on the court...stockton boring, magic...well...its a magic show
bayboitonga 9 months ago
@bayboitonga Yep, Showtime was very entertaining to watch. I miss the old days, back when basketball was a real sport. No blood, no foul. Fights every other game. Hard-nose defense. If you go inside, the opponents will elbow you in the face, just to show you that this is my space, you come driving up in here again, and I'll clobber you.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
steve nash
citoyendelmundo 9 months ago
A humble athlete no longer found in today's NBA. Stockton would eat Rondo for breakfast.
IwasBlackace 9 months ago
nash and stockton good dual.
tigerbloodusa 9 months ago
very similar to Steve nash i think wow
TheCrepCrep 10 months ago
The king of assists, the king of steals.
The greatest point guard ever.
vagflu07 10 months ago 29
@vagflu07 Alongside Magic Johnson!!!!
Daniel14Jackson 7 months ago
@vagflu07 He was great but not greatest ever. He can't be the great with no rings.
robbiemo10 7 months ago
@robbiemo10 Stupidest thing I've heard. Rings are simply about luck and situation. Look at Robert Horry with 7. Hell even Adam Morrison has a ring. So does Scalabrine. Does that make them better than Stockton or Malone? Stockton isn't the greatest ever as a basketball player but as a point guard he might just be, along with Magic.
Dystopia1980 7 months ago
@Dystopia1980 But I know he's a great player no doubt, not overall imo you can only be remembered as one of THE GREATEST ever if you win a ring. Saying stuff such as 'Morrison is better as he has more rings' is stupid because of course he isn't better than Stockton, but as for superstars I think they are measured by success = ultimately rings.
robbiemo10 7 months ago
Just like many other players, Stockton and Malone had the misfortune of playing in the Jordan Era.
Dystopia1980 7 months ago
@vagflu07 do you know magic johnson?
quazer12 7 months ago
@vagflu07 Not sure he was better than Oscar Robertson, but he sure could dribble/pass circles around these fools now!
unsexynstupid 6 months ago
@vagflu07 i dont know about best ever but he was great
butterybeefslinguh 6 months ago
As good as he was at court awareness n passing, you must acknowledge he had a great supporting cast around him who knew how to finish.
mittalsteel1 10 months ago
To all the young athletes that dream of becoming NBA stars. This man has more assists and more steals than any man that ever played in the national basketball association and he never dunked a basketball in an NBA game and you can count on two fingers the amount of behind the back passes he ever made. Follow your dreams but remember that.
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Roningun 10 months ago
steve nash wishes he was this good.......
arlichar11 10 months ago
@arlichar11 Steve Nash doesn't play defense.. so I don't consider a good player at all.
ldrsquad 10 months ago
@ldrsquad You don't think he's a good player at all? He's the best shooter of all time.
Bracketbot 9 months ago
@Bracketbot He's a decent shooters and a good passer, but thats it. On defense he isn't there. If you don't play defense, you are not a good player at all, despite whatever you can do on offense (and he's not Lebron, or Melo (who can score off will)~ he needs a scorer on his team to facilitate the offense and allow the defense to give him room) Nash's game is dribble-drive inside, looks at the defense and either finishes or passes it out. He'll shoot a jumper when he's open.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@ldrsquad
1. he's not a decent shooter, he's one of the greatest of all time (statistically the greatest)
2. he's not a good passer, he's one of the greatest of all time (lead league in assists 5 years)
3. Nash plays defense, you just don't watch. He's not lock down but he dives on the floor for lose balls, takes a lot of charges and uses his mind to beat opponents
4. he doesn't need scorers. Amare left and he still leads the league in assists. In 05 7 suns had career highs in points due to nash
vertrecordings 9 months ago
@vertrecordings There is no comparison between John Stockton and Steve Nash, who is the better point guard. Diving for loose balls isn't defense- its hustle, and taking charges is useless if you give opponents space to move around and force your big guys to foul inside, and get into foul trouble.
A point guard doesn't need to score unless they have to. They facilitate the offense. However in the league today, dominated by the power of guards, defense is a must to. Nash doesn't play defense...
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@vertrecordings The only charges I see Nash draw, is when he is the only one back in defense on a fastbreak. Sure Nash can dish, but if you can't play defense you go home. That's why the Suns didn't make the playoffs twice in 5 years. (Mike D'Antoni is also at fault, because he doesn't believe in defense). In the West Conference Finals, Nash couldn't stop Tony Parker or Devin Harris putting up huge numbers. Watching Nash guarding them during the games was like watching Shaq shoot free throws.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@vertrecordings I'd take John Stockton, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, and Kevin Johnson over Steve Nash. Only because Nash doesn't play defense. In this ERA, where point guards dominate the game, you need a PG that can play defense. Nuff' said. Nash only plays one side of the game and he does that well, but that won't make him better than the players that I said. If you cut off Nash's looks as he drives inside, he can only throw it up and complain to the ref when there is no foul called.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@ldrsquad
Alright, I'll take the player who has more MVPs than all of those players combined. As mentioned earlier, Nash may not be a lock down defender, but he's not a liability by any means. Watch some Suns games and you will see Nash talking charges, getting in passing lanes, fighting for lose balls, ect. If you cut off Nash on the drive, he can pull up, pass, or out-wit you to get to the basket. I'd take Stockton over Nash but you are not selling those other players too well.
vertrecordings 9 months ago
@vertrecordings Not a Lock-down defender, thats being way too nice? Nash can't play defense at all. If you are a suns fan, have you seen the playoff games? Where he lets parker drive to the basketball almost every single play, and getting hacked with an and-1? Once defenders cut nash on the drive they will close in (Nash can't pass it out now, so all he can do is throw it up and hopefully there will be a foul called). You don't need to sell players- just watch them play. MVP means nothing.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@vertrecordings You are not going to win championships with a high caliber offense. No matter how good offensively they are. Suns live and die by Nash. You can see the past playoff games. Once they stop Nash, the offense fails. You cannot give players such as Tony Parker and Chris Paul room to operate. You might as well quit and go home. Lose balls again is Hustle, not defense. Nash's defense is purely in transition (drawing a charge mostly), he never actually does any adequate defending.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@ldrsquad
"I'd take John Stockton, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, and Kevin Johnson over Steve Nash."
How many championships do these players have? (the same as Nash)
Look at who the Suns lose to in the post season: LA SA and Dallas. These teams beat them due to low post dominance, which all teams need to win titles (something phoenix never had). Nash always has new players and coaches around him, yet continues to thrive. Also, you can't tell me the 87-88 lakers were not great defensively
vertrecordings 9 months ago
"I'd take John Stockton, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, and Kevin Johnson over Steve Nash"
Aside from paytons title in miami, none of these players have yielded championships.
Look at who Phoenix losses to in the post season (LA DAL SA). All these teams have dominant low post options, which is what ultimately stops phoenix. Over the years, players and coaches have changed, but nash still puts up the same numbers. He's that good
and btw, the 87-89 lakers played the same style as the suns
vertrecordings 9 months ago
@vertrecordings No point in arguing with you because you don't understand basketball. Payton has a ring. With Nash letting Parker , Terry and Harris drive to the hoop, he got Diaw, Shaq, Stoudemaire, Marks into foul trouble and they couldn't adequately defense the post. (they are not great defensive players to begin with). Magic Johnson. Kareem, Michael Cooper, all could play defense and it was very effective despite their showtime antics.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@ldrsquad
1. once again, you fail to realize that none of the players you listed have rings despite get casts (i said payton got one as a role player, which isn't the same)
2. this is also false. gasol, dirk and duncan score mostly off of their own offense (posting up and creating) this is why phoenix got shaq: to stop these bigs from man-handling the suns. has nothing to do with nash
3. you deleted your own comment in which you said high caliber offensive minded teams cant win titles (lakers)
vertrecordings 9 months ago
@vertrecordings Without Stoudemaire, Dirk, Nash isn't in the playoffs. Shaq is useless in helping the suns defend IF he is sitting on the bench with foul trouble. Have I not said this many times? NASH allows dribble penetration inside. So the bigs guys (Shaq for example will have to leave their own man to contest, and ususally leads to a foul~ Shaq doesn't have lateral quickness and isn't a help defender). Then Duncan, Gasol, Dirk can have a run of the town as Shaq sits on the bench.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@vertrecordings Have you not been understanding what I am saying? Which comment was that? High Caliber offensive teams must have defense, otherwise they aren't going to win championships. Its simple. The Showtime Lakers had Michael Cooper, A.C. Green. James worthy shut down Clyde Drexler. Noone is going to score over Kareem... not if he can help it. Kurt Rambis always banged inside, denying postion. Magic cut off passing lanes. Only retards don't play D and expect to win it all.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@vertrecordings At least Kevin Johnson, GP, John Stockton, Jason Kidd got into the Finals (something Nash couldn't do). But you can't compare casts, from era to era. Steve Kerr wasn't smart enough to understand Nash's ineffectiveness to allow penetration inside. (Should have picked up a good interior, weak side help defender like Marcus Camby). But overtime, there will be fouls called on Camby as well.
And what is False is exactly? I didn't delete any comment and I just explained the lakers.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@vertrecordings Anything else you want to me explain and refute? (The suns weren't a defensive team.. the only legit defender was Raja Bell, and he was losing his perks from when he was with the SPURS). The Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, play great defense. The Showtime Lakers were not exception, despite the same offensive style. Defensively the Showtime Lakers got it down, stopping the Blazers, Celtics, Jazz, Mavs, Pistons. Most of the showtime antics were off turnovers of the opponent
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@ldrsquad
you're going away from the original conversation. you said you'd take all these players over nash, yet none of them have titles, nor mvps (nash has 2). i then pointed out nashs failures in the post season were largely due to a lack of a low post threat (something 95% of championship teams need). nothing really to argue beyond that. Nash may not be gary payton defensively, but he brings high energy and was not the liability you label him as. give respect where respect is due.
vertrecordings 9 months ago
@vertrecordings TBH, Nash didn't deserve those MVPs.(you have D-Wade comming off a fantastic season, LBJ dominating, and Kobe carrying his starless team) And again you cannot compare ERAs. The reason why the players I mentioned did not get MVPs is because they were in a league featuring MJ, pippen, Clyde Drexler, Sir Charles, Hakeem, David Robinson, Malone, the list continues. But they did get into the finals with alot of competitive teams, than Nash (who has not been to the finals yet).
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@vertrecordings Nash is a liability on defense. He allows dribble penetration inside. If you see him play against other teams such as the Hornets, Bulls, and Spurs, you can see just how much of a liability he is. Sure he is great offensively, but again as I said before, when teams guard Nash, they understand he is the facilitator of the offense. Denying a passing entry to another player/cutting passing lanes, Nash will have to take the shot, throw a bad pass, or try to draw a foul inside.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@vertrecordings You said earlier the problem was not having a low post/ inside defender, but now you said a Low Post scorer? Low post means nothing. They had Marion, Stoudemaire, and Nash. Scoring is not a problem for the Suns. It never was. It was DEFENSE. Once the Suns traded Marion away for Shaq, I was intrigued on how this was going to work and it didn't work.
Nash will never have my respect, and Carmelo won't either. They think they can win by scoring more points. It's quite sad.
ldrsquad 9 months ago
@ldrsquad
You still fail to realize that none of the other players you listed have won titles (except payton as a role player).
Nash has been to the conference finals 5 times, frankly with 5 completely different team. He never had the bigman needed to finish it off (a guy (or duo) who can dominate the low block on both ends which 95% of championship teams have). Nash should have your respect. He's a class act and shows how much can be achieved through hard work and dedication.
vertrecordings 8 months ago
@Bracketbot
best shooter of all time my ass.
caod27 9 months ago
john was a true point guard. a facilitator and ball stealer. other point guards use the position to handle the ball to score. a true point looks for the pass first.
123attivo 10 months ago
What, a time when the NBA wasn`t just a bunch of thugs with tats? Those were the days...
Allante715 11 months ago 25
@Allante715 or racism.
funktrane 8 months ago 2
@Allante715 or just seriously lacking brain matter
TheiIngloriousDoctor 8 months ago
@Allante715
you're a pussy. the nba today is full of incredibly talented and well respected men. just because they're colored and have tattoos doesn't mean they're not. grow up
century197 7 months ago
@century197
I never said anything about skin color, don`t assume. Ever seen the birdman and mike miller?
Allante715 7 months ago
@Allante715
you're still a fat pussy.
century197 7 months ago
@century197
Good for you. If you cannot even remotely give me a educated response, then you need to shut your face. The fact is the NBA is nowhere as popular as it was in the 80`s and 90`s.
Allante715 7 months ago
@Allante715
yeah its not as popular. and you're still a pussy.
century197 7 months ago
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@century197
At least I don`t have a cock up my ass.
Allante715 7 months ago
@Allante715 thats kinda racist lol
DcoopsMySon 6 months ago
@DcoopsMySon what? how?
AirDB23 5 months ago
@AirDB23 actually never mind i just had a 2nd look at it
DcoopsMySon 5 months ago
@DcoopsMySon Not really. People of all races were much more mature and more gentlemen-like.
mosnaidei 5 months ago
John Stockton leads the league in all time assists and steals. Stop the arguing. He is by far the best point guard of all time.
loversdie 11 months ago
Stockton may look like a choir boy, but he would cut your heart out if that is what it took to win. He was a gritty competitor and a fearless leader.
You would be hard pressed to find somebody with a higher basketball IQ than John Stockton. Talk about being a coach's dream...
sdnm86 11 months ago
the game looks so slow back then. not a chance Stockton would dominate nowadays
RajonRondoVideos 1 year ago
@RajonRondoVideos let me guess. michael jordan and magic johnson wouldnt dominate nowadays either?! cmon man. get with it.
dmun5587red123 1 year ago
@RajonRondoVideos lmfao. get a clue.
synapse913 11 months ago
@RajonRondoVideos BULLL SHIT HE WOULD HE IS A SMART ASS PLAYER AND COULD SHOOT THE HELL OUT THE BALL.... THEY WAY THEY PLAY DEFENSE THIS DAY HE WOULD AVE 24 A GAME
talentscout45 11 months ago
Rondo puts up 24 assists weekly lol (not knocking stockon)
joebarrrs 1 year ago
@joebarrrs Stockton has 34 games with 20+ assists. Rondo ?
K24BeanB 1 year ago
@K24BeanB Well since you know the stockon stat I'm assuming you know so why don't you tell me?
joebarrrs 1 year ago
@joebarrrs
2 games with over 20, while Stockton had 36 season and 4 playoff games with 20+ assists. His 24 game doesn't compare to Stocktons since Stockton just turned the ball over once while Rondo 7 times. Quite an impressive game for Stockton really, had made 12/16 FG (75%) and accumulated 6 steals. Credit to Rondo, though, for getting 10 boards considering he has all-star bigs to take care of the boards.
myez 11 months ago
@myez Thats insane you're right Rondo's got a way to go but he's on the right path. Too bad we can't see them go head 2 head. NBA2k11 I guess lol
joebarrrs 11 months ago
He looks like James Caviezel.
gremlin05 1 year ago
too bad he doesnt even like the fame..rajon isnt on his level dumb ass!!! most think he's an asshole though in spokane
travisgregg02 1 year ago
and than, Rajon Rondo came..
walteur 1 year ago
@walteur Oh please dude.. are you REALLY comparing Rajon Rondo to John Stockton?
21ollej 1 year ago
@21ollej
everybody compares Jordan with Bryant so whats the big deal
walteur 1 year ago
@walteur haha if John Stockton had ANY team that had a label of "BIG THREE" on it, I'm sure things would be different. I mean Karl Malone was great don't get me wrong, but Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen AND PAUL PIERCE from a couple years ago? GTFO, hater. I could fucking rack up 5 or 6 APG playing PG with those 3.
MikeyIV 5 months ago
@MikeyIV Are you serious? Jeff Hornacek in his prime was deadly. And the Jazz was a powerhouse in the 90's. So yeah They both can get credit for having great players to pass too. And NO ONE on the current Celtics rival Karl Malone's presence on the Jazz, buddy
Mic4567 3 months ago
@Mic4567 You're gonna compare Jeff Hornacek to Ray allen, paul pierce, or kevin garnett? He was never even an allstar. The big 3 are locked 1st ballot future hall of famers. I can't even believe I'm discussing this...
MikeyIV 3 months ago
@MikeyIV you sound like one of those 10 year old kids that likes the celtics, only because they have the big 3. no diss. i'm just saying that that's what you sound like lol.but yo i dig your music
93mherrera 3 months ago
@93mherrera haha John stockton's my favorite player I gotta defend him. But THANKS A LOT about the music. I really appreciate it! :D
MikeyIV 2 months ago
John Stockton just got another assist 'cuz of me right now...
cdc2200 1 year ago
John Stockton's face is the combination of being chill and serious. He looks serious, but he isn't screaming and getting mad. One of my favorite basketball players ever.
cbnunya 1 year ago
John Stockton and his tiny shorts got all the bitches.
WillT618 1 year ago
Stockton was BEAST. Try and pass the ball to someone and BOOM he comes out of nowhere :p.
songotenz02 1 year ago
Best point gaurd ever
Djknocka85 1 year ago
If i have to choose one guard to be in my team, it would have to be Stock. Beast of a guard. It would be stupid not to consider him as one of the best of all time.
hugmeshootme 1 year ago
I have a question on that last "assist", I thought an assist was when the person who receives the pass does NOT dribble before shooting. Well on that last play the guy dribbled once. Please explain someone?
CaribbeanSkies 1 year ago
@CaribbeanSkies
It was an assist, you can dribble after catching it. He set Malone up perfect for the easy dunk.
RajonRondoVideos 1 year ago
@CaribbeanSkies you are an idiot
MWolverine9 1 year ago
@CaribbeanSkies one dribble does count as an assist, look it up.
LebronMVP4LIFE 1 year ago
@CaribbeanSkies
as long as its under 2 dribbles, it's an assist. 3 dribbles or more cancel it. As you can see Malone caught the pass, dribbled once, then dunked. It's an assist.
elzombito5678 10 months ago
so clean...
frostedheart 1 year ago
one day i came home and found out my house was burglarized. I told the police to be on the look out for a certain 6 foot 1 point guard.
1020Shane 1 year ago
Stockton one of the best EVER! So happy i watched ball during his era! If any young point guards are watching this your on the right course
knox8me 1 year ago
I never wanted to be like Mike, I wanted to be like John.
jlh6310 1 year ago 15
@jlh6310 everyone wanted to be like mike, tons of people wanted to be like mike
46Imthebest 8 months ago
i think steve nash vs john stockton vs jason kidd cause three of them are the great passer in the nba now is steve nash vs jason kidd all of them have more assists cause three of them are unselfish players
batmanrocks245678 1 year ago
Stockton, IMO, is the best PURE point guard to ever play the game.
I can't think of anybody that was as durable and unselfish as John was. He was the consummate teammate and competitor who ALWAYS put the betterment of the team above statisfying his own ego.
In that sense, Stockton was an anachronism in this age of ostentation, and instant gratification. His game was a throwback to bygone eras.
Watching Steve Nash play is redolent to the type of game that John used to play.
scottdavis0676 1 year ago 3
@scottdavis0676
Ahem....Magic Johnson.
UR2H 1 year ago
@UR2H Talent wise sure. But John played longer and didn't have the talent around him that Magic had. It's a shame Magic didn't finish his career the way he should of and a shame John never won a ring. It's always a good debate.
SeoulSon51 1 year ago
@UR2H Magic Johnson wasn't a Pure pointguard. he was a point forward. stockton is by far the best Pure PG to ever play the game.
kalloused 1 year ago
@kalloused
Just because Magic could play virtually every position doesn't make him a point forward. He played his career at the point position and is easily regarded as the purest passer ever in the NBA. A pure point guard is a player who knows how to break down defenses and distribute the ball to open players. Magic Johnson was great at making his teammates around him better which is the primary duty of a pure point guard.
UR2H 1 year ago
@UR2H 1.That's what a point forward is and 2.the rest of your statement pretty much proves my point.
kalloused 1 year ago
@kalloused
1. True. However Magic Johnson played PG. He wasn't a forward like Lebron, Pippen, Bird, Lamar Odom, Boris Diaw or any of the other point forwards in the game. While he can be labeled as a point forward I guess, he is still considered a point guard.
2. So you think what I stated didn't apply to Magic? While Magic may easily be the best PG ever at running the break, Magic was also great in the half court set. Everything I stated about a pure point guard applies to Magic's game.
UR2H 1 year ago
In addition a pure point guard is a PG that is a pass first shoot second play maker. While this role is exactly what John Stockton was, so was Magic. There are not many point guards that could play multiple positions like Magic could. Oscar is one even though he was more of a combo guard than a point guard. Magic was clearly a point guard.
UR2H 1 year ago
@UR2H The fact that magic was a PG was impressive, but he never played center. It was a distortion of the media. He just tipped the ball off. He played the wing, and how he always played for his entire career. Bird posted bigs WAY more than Magic. Bird was only 1inch taller than magic. Magic had the prettiest passes and the ugliest jumpshot as they say...When dennis johnson was injured bird averaged 14 assists a game with his reg 25ppg and at least 8 rebounds. He also averaged 10 reb career.
usnate1 1 year ago
Respond to this video...Magic was versatile. But bird was as much if not more versatile, and through the 80's magic's teams were far more superior than bird's except for the '86 and '83 celts. Pippen Odom and Diaw dont belong in the same paragraph as Bird. Pippen close, but no cigar. Pound for pound magic always had 3 other create your own shot players and himself. Bird had Mchale and dennis johnson for reliability. Bird could've had as many apg as magic but he HAD to score.
usnate1 1 year ago
@usnate1First of all I said Magic could virtually play all 5 positions not that he did. Only reason I even said that was in reference to a comment labeling Magic as a point forward. The same reason goes for why I brought up those players. It wasn't to compare. I agree those players had no business being in the same sentence as Bird in any regard.
UR2H 1 year ago
@UR2H I just found it interesting that most say that magic was the more versatile one when bird mattered to the celts way more than magic did to the lakers. In more ways I mean. And the same goes for the assists with bird, Which is the only point i was trying to make when i was mentioning DJ being injured.
usnate1 1 year ago
@usnate1 Bird was a forward and Magic was a guard. Bird was around the basket in position for rebounds much more often than Magic was. Had Magic played forward he could have grabbed just as many rebounds as Bird. I agree that Bird was as versatile a player as they come but so was Magic.
UR2H 1 year ago
@UR2H
But had bird played in the back court he could have had more assists than magic so it goes both ways
vertrecordings 9 months ago
One of the best PG's ever. I was a bulls fan in the 90's but these guys deserved a ring.
FlostaMatic 1 year ago
@FlostaMatic as a jazz fan it feels good to hear a bulls fan say that.
kalloused 1 year ago
Best NBA point guard ever!
uvlax22 1 year ago 2
he looks like Sylvester Stallone plus the guy from King Kong, Bruce Baxter
lopki1 1 year ago
this guy is really underated.....i mean he leads all time in assists and steals......and check out how many games he played.....in his whole career i think he missed like 22 games, and maybe like 18 were in one season or something then here then here ground water ground water
radiolaugh 1 year ago
best PG to ever play the game. I'm sayin' it.
Ayinlolz 1 year ago 2
stockton was the reason i play B-ball...Jazz also da first team i used in PS1,,"In the Zone 99"..Hahahaha
lancelotray 1 year ago
Stockton dished out 20 assists like it was nothing. Hell, one season he nearly averaged 15 apg.
Raford146 1 year ago
who won this series?
mrravimc 1 year ago
best point guard ever man nobody ever made steals or assists like he did. he never slowed down even as he got older
lmenzol 1 year ago
@lmenzol best point guard after Magic for sure :P
Elmaln 1 year ago
Best pg ever! Go Zags!!!
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John Stockton Hands Out 24 Assists
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maxinutri 1 year ago
Stockton is one of the most deceptive players to ever play the game. You think he's slow, but he could blow by you. You think he sucks at D, but he's one of the greatest defenders of all time. Dude was bad ass.
uberathlete 1 year ago 7
@uberathlete YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. John Stockton said hey I might be short, But I can bang with BEST of them. John Stockton was one tough bad ass who was deceptive as HELL and never quits. I know that for SURE.
maxinutri 1 year ago
@uberathlete he holds a record in steals if i am not mistaken... anyway, the 24 assists were very significant. it's also the same as making 48 points for your team(let's say that every pass he makes the other makes a 2-pointer) and then add your own points. many people judge players' skills by ppg but they don't look at assists. its a great contribution for your team.
Janforth04 1 year ago
@uberathlete Stockton was a very solid defender. Basically Nash's offensive game is comparable to Stockton's, but Stockton could actually defend well, which is why imo he's the better point guard.
Elmaln 1 year ago
What an absolute pleasure to watch. He was like a conductor, orchestrating music on the basketball court.
opannefrank 2 years ago 4
24 assists or more in 5 games, one of the best pgs ever.
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jason williams is way better
bradjipark 2 years ago
@bradjipark jason williams is a piece of shit coming off the bench for orlando LMFAO!
bigevil50 1 year ago
...HISTORY...
freddiesp86 2 years ago 2
Did anyone just hear Jon Barry put Steve Nash as the #2 passer AHEAD of John Stockton? LOL. He said that "80% of his passes were to Karl Malone." And that his passes were not as difficult. And he had Mark Jackson AHEAD of Jason Kidd. WOW.
MIKESOWELL 2 years ago 3
the LA lakers are called that because the old team was the minnesota lakers and then they moved
zigzach119 2 years ago
john stockton... greatest point guard of all time.
dh144498 2 years ago 27
@dh144498 ... dont get me wrong he was amazing............ ONE NAME MAGIC ENOGHT SAID
talentscout45 11 months ago
if u guys complaining about the NBA team names... search it on google.. every team has meanings..
LA lakers doesnt hav mny lakes.. of course..
but the real owner of lakers was from another country(i forgot).. a country that has so mny lakes.. but they transferred to LA but didnt change the name...
anyway, stockton is definitely has the all time assists per game... followed by magic johnson and steve nash.. xD
GarlandVil1 2 years ago
they were from minnisota they have alot of lakes
andrewrosso 2 years ago 3
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he was not charismatic...and let's face it,who is a Jazz fan?????But he was damn good and at the end you want your team to win,not you to be stylish.
wondermega4ever 2 years ago
Why would you say that? Just because he didn't shit his pants every time something went wrong and start yelling? Every single time the Jazz needed somebody to step up and make a big play it was John Stockton .... Every Single Time for 19 YEARS .... John Stockton was the guy leading his team on the floor. Charisma and being a leader isn't about yelling .... it''s about making things happen when it counts.
SauceCaptain 2 years ago 54
wondermega4ever,
I'm a Jazz fan and this was a different era. Numbers don't lie & achieving those numbers takes charisma. Granted his style isn't like that of todays acrobatic thug ballers but that's what the NBA has evolved into...endorsements, thugs, and acrobatics.
It's a bad time for the NBA IMO. Nothin' like the 90's.
dopafeind1 2 years ago
1st all time assist and steals? You can keep sexy... I will keep number one all time...
chawnce 2 years ago 6
sorry
kon121 2 years ago
stockton was realy good, but his game wasnt half as sexy as magic's
thereemix 2 years ago
lmfao john is not only a grea