The King of Fighters XIII: Hwa Jai

[Aggrofool]

adon + jon talbain

[UltimateHunter1990]

LOL this is adon

[peyotediaz]

mr.bearns?

[dapithapon]

is hwa jai a new character or has appeared on other games?

[GEONazareno]

are you fucking serious ? this fucking noob stole the adons jaguarkick just look 0:24 thats jaguar kick bitch no dragon tail god , i love you adon

[5ifu]

Adon vs. Joe

Sagat vs. Hwa Jai

I can feel it coming...

[Dice12K]

first thought:

Who is this Joe ripp off?

2nd thought: ripping off Joe might've done him some good due to the fact he's apparently being chased by every mental hospital out there.

@.@;

[921144666]

WHERE YOU AT ADON?!?!? (Nick Diaz)

[GrandmasterSexay05]

Nishiyama had a few good creations in Art of Fighting, but that game is dead now, saying he'd be forced to pallete swap heads now is bold considering The Art of Fighting hasnt had a game in years due to KOF being the main Fighters game in SNK now. Ryu doesnt talk much, nor does he show boat like Ryo does and Ryu was made 5 years before Ryo so i cant see how Ryu's design is the original Ryu. In which Dan was made, he has Ryo's persona but comes off more arrogantly. there SVC conversation is funny

[chonwai]

why they invented this dude with so much material to recycle???, so many characters from mark of the wolves or past kofs, this is like the laziest thing they have done to the game (except the 4 kyos in kof 99)

[AnkhuZerouno]

This dude is annoying.

[DBZvsNaruto2439]

Why does it sound like he's saying "tiger cane!" each time he does a dragon kick

[homemhipo]

How does this "Drinking" move works?

[DBZvsNaruto2439]

@homemhipo Not sure but i think that he does more damage on his attacks

[Guytsu]

@homemhipo It gives him a slight damage increase on all his moves, it gives him a follow-up attack to his Dragon Backbreaker super, it makes cancelling moves easier, and it makes his special moves cause more "float" to the opponent, which means it's easier to combo into other moves while his Drink powerup is active

[KoneKoneq]

@GrandmasterSexay05 Yeah, you are right but...Dan was supposed to be a parody.

[PsychoGemini]

At 0:45, friends don't let friends fight a drunk guy!

[MasterOfClix]

@ aldaloo3 kinda makes you wonder where we'd be without em, huh? no awesome 23 hit combos... no giant fireball of death... i'm definatley thankful for art of fighting!

[MasterOfClix]

Ryu may have came first, but he owes his "giant fireball from hell" to Ryo... I can't remember if it was art of fighting that technically had the first "super combo", but I know haoh sho ko ken came before shinku hadouken...

[aldaloo3]

@MasterOfClix Ryo,Robert and Mr.karate those three used the super death blow(haoh-ken) in art of fighting and also were the first to use the famous desperate moves except for Mr.karate in aof.

[Silversava2]

looks like a fucking zombie

[corita2004]

cool to see Hwa Jai back, I was hoping he'll bust that bottle on somebodys head for one of his super moves XD

[oneyeseesin3D]

0:46 god damn! I want some of what Jai's drinking :P

[Bamskrull]

i'm an adon fan, but hwa seems more deadly than him

[strikerk]

@Bamskrull I'm a huge Adon fan, and Hwa Jai is better in EVERY SINGLE WAY POSSIBLE. He's Adon without the gimmicky bullshit, and with real, solid tools to win matches. He's Adon if Capcom didn't fucking hate Adon. SNK loves all their characters. Even the worst character in KOF XIII has a lot of love put into them, and you can tell.

[Bamskrull]

@strikerk i agree with ya there. snk does indeed treat their characters & fans way better than crapcom. its one of the reasons why i've always loved the king of fighters series/characters a lot more than street fighters'. theres just so many characters that i love in the kof series that i can never get bored of playing them and its hard for me to even pick a proper main. even in cvs2 i played a lot more with snk characters than i did with capcom's lol

[wyrmqueen]

From my friend, he used to work at the Japanese census.

1-1? Nope. Ryo Hazuki, Ryo Akiyama, Ryo Bakura, Ryo Fujibayashi, Ryo Asuka, Ryo Kunieda, Ryo Marufuji, Ryo Misaki, Ryo Narushima, Ryo Okayasu, Ryo Saeba, Ryo Sanada, Ryo Watanabe, and that's just from the top of my head.

Compare to Ryu SF, Ryu FotNS, Ryu BoF Ryu Hayabusa, Ryu Kumon

[Manahyde]

@wyrmqueen Ok, I'll admit you were right about Ryo being the more common name ;)

[wyrmqueen]

@Manahyde In general, the Japanese have more variety in names unlike English names with John and Michael being too common. But Ryo definitely is more common than Ryu.

[Manahyde]

I've actually lived in japan till 2 years ago and did all these suggested things for quite some time now... Ryo isn't exactly common enough to claim coincidence on the naming of the Art of Fighting protagonist and the only statistics I've found mentioning at least one of the two names is Issendai which counts Ryū as one of the most popular names for japanese boys 1994–2003... on the other hand I think there actually were more girls named Ryo in fiction than guys...

[wyrmqueen]

@Manahyde And how many fictional characters are named John and Ryo compared to Ezekiel and Ryu?

[Manahyde]

@wyrmqueen still a 1-1 count just from memory but like I said: where did you compare them in japans census please?

[Manahyde]

capcom invented special moves and therefore fighting games as they are today, is every fighting game with special moves a street fighter rip-off? dan is supposed to be a parody with a move-set of ryo and the looks of robert, since snk blatantly copied ryu and ken in appearance and right down to the freaking NAME and made the character even the main hero of their new game, but did capcom bitch and complain (like so many people here)? no, they made a joke about it (dan) and did crossovers with snk

[wyrmqueen]

@Manahyde Ryo is a common Japanese name. Ryu on the other hand is not. And Capcom fanboys always bitch and moan about SNK copying Capcom while ignoring all the things Capcom copied from SNK like super moves, special bars, etc.

[Manahyde]

@wyrmqueen I'd say Ryu is the more common name and I kinda don't get what you were trying to prove with that since it probably wasn't "capcom didn't base Ryo on Ryu and ken"... or was it really? Never met a Capcom fanboy so I have to trust ya on that bitch and moan stuff tho. Hope you realize that the whole point of my comment was defending the creation of Dan as a parody and not being serious character infringement, I'm not attacking SNK, they evolved through each other

[wyrmqueen]

@Manahyde Ryu is not a common Japanese name. Not a lot of Japanese people are named Ryu. Ryo on the other hand is fairly common.

[Manahyde]

@wyrmqueen source?

[wyrmqueen]

@wyrmqueen Japan. Look at their census. Look at their census. Hell, just look at their media. Watch their movies, TV show, anime, and read their books. Note how many people are named Ryo compared to Ryu.

[Manahyde]

@wyrmqueen may I ask where you took a look at their census and confirmed Ryo as the more common name? I'm still willing to be convinced but so far I've seen not much evidence for Ryo in statistics and I don't remember that many (male) Ryos OR Ryūs from the media either...

[login215487]

I would like to see Adon VS Hwa Jai

It should be interesting

[dameon195]

uhhhh u guys no nothing adon came out in street fighter 1 in 1987 look it up its true

[wyrmqueen]

@dameon195 Yes, but that Adon didn't have any personality. Adon's personality was developed during the Alpha games after Hwa Jai already existed.

[InvictusSolDeus]

@wyrmqueen Well, Hwa Jai in Fatal Fury didn't have any personality too. He only was a minion of Geese, with alcoholic tendencies, but he hadn't this crazy personality. In fact, in Fatal fury canon, after his defeat against Joe he becomes his friend and trainer (indicating that he really is a nice guy). In this KOF XIII, SNK change completely his personality and background. So Adon's personality was developed before Hwa Jai.

[wyrmqueen]

@InvictusSolDeus Actually, Hwa Jai did have personality in the original Fatal Fury, he had the crazy face and the drinking and his backstory, was really cocky and aggressive. He did become friends with Joe but it evolved from a straight up rivalry to a friendly rivalry. There's nothing in Hwa Jai's KOFXIII storyline that indicate they changed this, in fact, he kept telling Kim over and over that he's not the same good that worked for Geese and he has changed but Kim had his head up his own ass.

[InvictusSolDeus]

@wyrmqueen Adon in the first street fighter is described as cocky fighter that wants to surpass sagat. Crazy Face? Sorry but he didn't look crazy in his original portrait (the drinking move only increase his power, not made​him a maniac) and yes his relationship with Joe change. As you said, their rivalry was friendly in FF, now is more or less like the ratio between Adon and Sagat.

[wyrmqueen]

@InvictusSolDeus I'm looking at Hwa's SNK wiki page right now and there's a portrait of him from Fatal Fury and he did have crazy face. If that doesn't count as crazy face then neither does Adon's Street Fighter portrait. And they never said anything about Joe and Hwa's rivalry changing in KOFXIII. I have KOFXIII for the Xbox 360 and none of their interaction indicates they hate each other. It's still a friendly rivalry.

[InvictusSolDeus]

@wyrmqueen Even some of his new special moves are just like adon special moves. In Fatal Fury Jai only have 2, the "drinking" move and the dragon kick (no ex and aerial version). Now he has the Dragon Tail, that is just like Adon Jaguar Kick (including the air versions), Dragon Dance is the equivalent of Adon Jaguar Assault/ Jaguar Avalanche...

[wyrmqueen]

@InvictusSolDeus Wrong! Hwa Jai got those moves because he shares sprites with Joe. Joe has a Tiger Heel which they also gave to Hwa Jai renaming it Dragon Tail. If anything, Adon copied Joe's moves.

[InvictusSolDeus]

@wyrmqueen Nope, Adon had that special attack in SF Alpha (June 1995) (although in the first street fighter he had a primitive version of that movement). if I'm sure, Joe obtained that attack in Real Bout FF (December 1995).

[wyrmqueen]

@InvictusSolDeus Actually Joe got the Golden Heel in FF3 which was released in March 1995. And Hwa got the Dragon Tail because Joe has a Golden Heel move. SNK was cutting corners by just pasting Hwa's head over Joe's body, it wasn't a deliberate attempt to copy Adon's Jaguar Kick.

[MuppetMan246]

ppl talking about Athena having an annoying voice but this Hwa dudes voice is grating to the core! His and Choi's voice are WAY more annoying then Athena's. I shudder to think of match between Choi and Hwa. X(

[Masutora]

Hwa Jai has no officially one upped Micheal Max.

[MBurrow08]

Wow, didn't know he was part of Kim's team

[guitalex2005]

I know Hwa's personality was created before Adon's... but how do you explain Dragon Tail being almost exactly Adon's Jaguar Tooth, when Hwa didn't have that move in his ONE other appearance?

Come on guys, I'm an SNK fan too. But let's not blind ourselves and pretend K9999 isn't a ripoff of Akira or something else equally obvious like Hwa's moves.

[Ninja07Keaton]

@guitalex2005 The Dragon Tail is an off shoot of Joe Higashi's Tiger heel move. Hwa Jai is Joe's bitter rival turned best friend.

[maxiq1989]

i still prefer Choi that this guy

[Beastpool66]

What a ugly man!

[hasanarkan]

no it is not, adon first appearance is on street fighter 1987 and fatal fury is on 1991. beat it

[Bangcat]

@hasanarkan Appearance, yes. Personality development, no.

[Chalkaspis]

Well, what the heck?... What you say happens as things progress. But I don't think as much in the past. There are blinding-obvious stereotypes about video game characters. Things are bound to get mixed up as they move on. Since we're dealing with Japanese people, this is to be expected. I value more the Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat "rivalry" as really different fighting genres..

[Chalkaspis]

Boy, this is a real rip off from Street Fighter. Adon anyone??? I thought that after all these years the KOF series didn't need to copy anymore.......................

[Bangcat]

@Chalkaspis And yet most of Capcom's major characters are copies of others from real life individuals, tv characters, manga, etc. Everything from Cammy being based off of Battle Angel Alita, Q from a random japanese tv show, etc.

Reality is, that's how it is. People take inspiration. However the court case between Capcom vs SNK had a judge that said it best. "You can't be the only one to have a fighting game."

And yeah Hwa did the drinking and personality bit first. Adon took on form in Alpha1

[JotaroKujo138]

Jaguar - Tiger - Dragon

[JotaroKujo138]

@dudetheguyman I don't see any Terry, Andy, Joe, or anything FF about Dan, he's completely Ryo and Robert fused together.

[Bangcat]

@JotaroKujo138 You're right on that. Dan was a crack thrown at SNK due to how close Ryo was to Ryu. Since Robert's moves were the flip of the coin to Ryo it basically made him the Ken of the game and so the joke included him too. Capcom spent an assortment of years a bit butt hurt that they lost their lawsuit against SNK for very valid reasons that would've changed the industry otherwise.

[JotaroKujo138]

@twisttext preach on brother, I still have my copy of AOF for snes, classic.

[dudetheguyman]

Hold on now, don't you guys get Dan "The Man" Hibiki's backstory wrong in your petty arguments. Dan is a parody of Fatal Fury. He's all their main characters wrapped into one humorous blend. Capcom did this because Fatal Fury's Ryo is an obvious rip-off of Ryu.

[TwistText]

@dudetheguyman Although Ryo has appeared in a few Fatal Fury games (Fatal Fury Special and Wild Ambition), he is an Art of Fighting character, not a Fatal Fury one.

[Duujin]

Actually, forget my last comment, how about this:

Can we all agree that Hwa Jai vs. Adon would be an absolutely beautiful Muay Thai match?

[Duujin]

Yes. A character named Adon came out in the original Fighting Street.

Did he have any attitude? Did he have defined moves? Or was he just the thinner Muay Thai fighter to Sagat, and basically resemble nothing (aside appearance) to the Adon we know today?

[GrandmasterSexay05]

1.) Adon was made before Hwa Jai

2.) Hwa's persona was created before Adon's 1995 SF:A appearence and then later was a loud arrogant muai thai fighter like Hwa

3. ) Dan Hibiki has Roberts looks, Ryo's persona (But more arrogantly) & clothes and Yuri's taunts..

4. Ryo is a rip-off of Ryu and Ken both looks and moveset wise

Moral of the story, SNK nor Capcom had "Originality" when it came to making these characters. Capcom ripped of Dan & Adon & SNK ripped of Ryu & Ken now shuuut up!!

[maosama013]

@GrandmasterSexay05

i won't say ryo is a rip off cause the designer of ryo and ryu are the same people/ group (two people made them)

[JayRose1000]

@GrandmasterSexay05

Dan is a parody/joke character. Capcom deliberately made him to mock SNK and their Art of Fighting series.

[GrandmasterSexay05]

@JayRose1000 I already knew that buddy. . .

[DustedDom]

@GrandmasterSexay05 dan purposefully represents ryo and robert because it was capcoms way of making fun of snk. it's hardly a rip off. more like a diss.

[GrandmasterSexay05]

@DustedDom You don't have to tell me something i already know, but regardless Dan is still a rip-off just for that fact SNK ripped of Ryo completley even though it was done in freindly retaliation.

[DustedDom]

@GrandmasterSexay05 all that matters is both games r good. i say if 1 side got something right, copy some of that shit and make it better.

[aaateam111]

@GrandmasterSexay05 And muay thai was made way for those two DERP

[GrandmasterSexay05]

@aaateam111 I think you should re-read the comment and then remove your comment and insert another comment again. Obviously you cant read if you think that was my point..

[Imadeyourun]

@GrandmasterSexay05: Actually...Ryo is technically not a rip off of Ryu, he is actually what Ryu was supposed to look like, but when some of the Capcom employees went over to SNK they used that character model in the Art of fighting.

[GrandmasterSexay05]

@Imadeyourun To be fairly technical i'm aware that the guy "Nishiyama" to be exact left Capcom and went over too SNK and made The Art of Fighting and was the creator of Ryo. However, although he made Ryu, Ryu is still Capcom property. Its not like the idea was fresh off making a new character he still gave him Blonde hair and all of Ryu's moves so theres nothing origial about Ryo aside from his persona and different background.

[Imadeyourun]

@GrandmasterSexay05: No dude, you're not getting....the way you see Ryo Sakazaki now, that WAS the original Ryu. The character design was just lying around waiting to be used. It's a good thing that Nishiyama did leave Capcom for SNK. It seems that they allowed him to be more creative. Otherwise he'd be forced to spit out head swapped characters instead of working on completely new ones. :-/

[BrawlYoshi]

I was hoping for someone from art of fighting to be on Kim's side like Jack Turner or John Crowley. Maybe even a time traveling Earthquake...

[shumworld]

Well technically Adon did come out first, if I'm not mistaken he appeared in SF1.

[GameAtHeart]

@shumworld Yup, that's true. Adon appeared first on SF1, Hwa Jai appeared afterwards on Fatal Fury. Adon was Playable on Alpha & Hwa Jai was playable right now on KOF XIII.

Although, Adon really didn't have a Generic Moveset on SF1 while Hwa Jai did have a Moveset as an Opponent on Fatal Fury, along with his Drinking Technique 0:43

Normally, they're right when it comes to Appearance, but they're wrong about Hwa Jai being a copy since he organized that Moveset. Both right in different ways.

[JotaroKujo138]

Typo, ignore pls

[JotaroKujo138]

Javier

[MikeArcade07]

So with Hwa Jai the only Fatal Fury characters were missing is Michael Max, Jubei, and most of the 2/Special, 3/Real Bout, and Garou cast. Tung was in XI and Richard Mayer was in MI2 so they've already been in a KOF game. Same goes for Rock. I wonder if anyone expected Hwa to appear? I don't think anyone could have guessed that, Also I'm calling a Real Bout Fatal Fury Team with Him, Raiden, and Duck King in the next Dream Match!

[MANOFGOD9000]

I'll stick with joe. This guy sounds annoying which is too bad I love the whole muay thai style. I guess my joe king team will be looking for a new member. Hey robert...

[gemitreos1]

kensou só serve para isso

[dkthg]

ADON.

[SpanishFly120]

He...he's like Joe Higashi's drunken uncle!

[EdgePitSwing]

lol. Why did he get drunk?

[RELLlK]

1987

watch?v=7cNTUNSUvYw&feature=re­lated

1992

watch?v=uuaDF0LG8o4

[TheNotoriousMC2]

Hwa was doing the whole crazy Muay Thai thing before Street Fighter Alpha existed, when Adon was just some generic guy you fought before Sagat.

Learn your history kids, Street FIghter IV is not the first SF game.

[Ryufan60]

@TheNotoriousMC2 Adon was in the first SF also which was called Fighting street and i think was made before this guy even existed.....Idk man im just saying what i think is true.

[ANIMEman0519]

So can someone explain to me what getting drunk does??...other then give you achol poisoning

[SuperEripio]

FIrst of all Hwa's personality was created before Adon's and did u know guys that Dan from SF is the whole Sakazaki team combined? He has Robert's appearance, Ryo's moveset and Yuri's win poses.

[iTzDavi]

@SuperEripio He Was Suppose To Be A Knockoff Of Them Three Yes. Only Bcuz Capcom Felt SNK Ryo Was Similar to Their Ryu Back When They Were At Least Rivals in Gaming.. Sorta To Disgrace Them They Used Or Created Dan

[qo2010]

@SuperEripio um i think everyone knows.............not trying yo be a jackass so plz no negative reply

[dkthg]

@qo2010 dont be an asshole.

[qo2010]

@dkthg did you see all of what i said?

[NuclearConvoy]

@SuperEripio Well, his outfit is more like Ryo's than Robert's/ Is Takuma somewhere included in Dan?

[THEVASART]

@SuperEripio thats because dan is a parody of those characters, street fighter was made first and kof has striking similarities to sf, so dan is essentially capcom trolling snk

[sarcanicus1]

@SuperEripio am pretty sure Dan was made in order to make fun of those characters.

[NACHO1111NAC]

@SuperEripio ¿Y LA PERSONALIDAD TIENE QUE VER CON LOS MOVIMIENTOS?NADA QUE VER.

Adon tuvo su primera aparición en Street Fighter 1,SEÑORES EL PRIMERO EN 1987.ADEMAS,lo de Dan es una burla por la HORRENDA copia que se le hizo a Ryu y Ken.Ya de paso,copiaron la pose de victoria de Yuri en Dan.

Por cierto,me gusta como se ve el juego.

[BossHoggaKaGameking]

@SuperEripio That's because of the Ryu, I mean "Ryo" character.

[Chalkaspis]

@SuperEripio That's right about Dan. But the thing is that the KOF series copied Capcom first.

[Bangcat]

@Chalkaspis That's in theory. Capcom lost lawsuits over similar ordeals. However I think you mean Art of Fighting if you're comparing Ryo vs Ryu. Fatal Fury held it's own with multiple planes of fighting that Capcom did not do. And as the courts said, they could not be the only ones to have a one on one fighting game of it's nature.

Had Capcom won that suite, the industry would've developed very differently, and many other franchises may have never gotten their start.

[imania2000]

@SuperEripio wow. nice finding, lol. i also thought C.Viper from SF is kinda mix of King and Vanessa.

[AuronTLG]

@SuperEripio I wouldn't know about the personality, but Adon appeared in 1987's Street Fighter, the game that almost no one has played outside Japan.

[NekoValtz]

Ok so what exactly does drinking do for him gameplay wise?

[ArticSABCA]

@NekoValtz Gives him an overall damage increase, adds extra hit to Dragon Breaker DM, Makes him stick his tounge out in crazy laughter during Neomax, gives him a drooling drunken stance, and increased the speed / priority of some of his specials.

Some of that might change on console, as some of his non-drunk specials now have properties that the drunk version did in arcade.

[PaulOkon1981]

Hwa Jai's first (and only until KOF XIII, besides popping up in stage backgrounds) appearance was the first Fatal Fury in 1991, four years before Street Fighter Alpha in 1995.

[AkumetsuLord]

@PaulOkon1981 Yeah People need to see that before the usually comments about Him being a Rip off of Adon.

[AkumetsuLord]

@PaulOkon1981 Yeah People need to see that before the usual comments about Him being a Rip off of Adon.

[WingZero1223]

@PaulOkon1981 the thing is that adon actually first appears in street fighter 1, back in 1987, so adon was definitely first.

[TheLegendRome]

@WingZero1223 yeh adon was in the first sf but he didnt have a personality or rly a moveset.we didnt really kn who adon was or wat he cud do til sfa which was 1996. thus makin hwa jai truly first.and to not directed to u just sying the adon rip of statements are becoming more annoying now

[WingZero1223]

@TheLegendRome I gotcha. well, I wasn't saying one was biting the other, because besides the fact that adon and hwa jai both use muay thai, i really don't see them being that similar. You definitely can't play them the same way, and they don't have the same personality.

[TheLegendRome]

@WingZero1223 i agree with yah whole heartedly lil similiar moves but different properties and play style and that crazy voice they have lol.but ppl tht are to lay to look up thie history of him or are just plain straight crapcom fanboys will auto assume wat they think.its just becoming annoying

[NuclearConvoy]

@PaulOkon1981 Well, Adon first appeared in the very first Street Fighter. He didn't have much personality, but he was there.

[trimxalseif]

@PaulOkon1981 but didn't Adon first appearance was in the very first SF in 1987? im a KOF fan BTW Im not trying to troll or anything like that

[BossHoggaKaGameking]

@PaulOkon1981 Adon was in the original Street Fighter....This guy is a clone.

[AKImeru]

@BossHoggaKaGameking Was Adon a bald guy who drink stuff to get stronger on his matches?

"Loud Kickboxer from Thailand" isn't an archetype created by Street Fighter.

[StupidKidPeople0]

@PaulOkon1981 Adon was first in Street fighter 1 in 1987.

[UltimateBeastMachine]

@TheGreenTunic Wow, way to make a stupid comment.

[UltimateBeastMachine]

@TheGreenTunic No, it's not. You're a moron, that's why your comments are removed. Ha, ha! Get owned, bumble.

[TheGreenTunic]

@UltimateBeastMachine I removed them actually because i reread my comment and relized it was stupid but i am not a moron i dont care what you say

[Sol3Chris]

@kayelmarrero i know lol but this guy was made first