I can see it from both sides, I enjoy eatting meat, but I will admit there is a disconnection with where its come from. Some cultures have an emotional connection with their meat before they eat it, modern society just buys meat from the mechanized killing factory. When we get it, it hard to imagine that it used to have a face. Yet it tastes so good.
There's no difference between eating a horse or a cow- the reason PETA (who are against all meat eating) protested this is that this is the kind of action more likely to gain public support. PETA have no consistency or integrity- they regularly compromise their principles for the sake of publicity.
Similarly, activists protest animal testing while ignoring factory farms- there are far more people who eat meat than are disabled, so the activists will lose support if they disrupt meat farming.
I disagree with domestic abuse of animals and any kind of cruelty. Yet, I would not compromise my own principles for the sake of a two inch column on page 14 of the latest tabloid.
Surely these activist groups could find something better to do with their time. Campaign to rid Paedophiles from our streets to keep our children safe? Jail rapists and murderers for life? Possibilities are endless...
where do u all think horses end up after their racing careers?????buried???no,served at eateries arund the world.We eat ducks,chickens,geese,lambs,why not a horse????its got omega 3 fats and is high in protein.The bodybuilder..serge nubret eat horsemeat everyday.
I think sherribailey75 must have been sexually abused by a piece of bacon as a small child. Its the only explanation for her(?) complete hatred of meat.
You two, WillB85 and jegun, are clearly in love, head over heels for each other. You should get your own room, and discuss your weird bordering-on-beastiality love for horse meat. You two are giving me the heebie jeebies, good bye!
Do you reckon that PETA force fed those poor horses to create enough manure for thier publicity stunt. Lets start up a group to protect those poor animals from scum like PETA
PETA rules for doing this. No one else has the guts. Ha, ha, force feeding horses! Are you a total moron? Did you finish high school? Horses shit manure without being force fed, you dummy! Why are you animal-hating, meat-chopping boneheads all so pitifully stupid?
No, it's not guts, it's just that nobody else is this stupid. It's completely unreasonable for them to force what they believe on an innocent persons business. All they have done is made their organisation even less credible than before.
this "innocent" person is a world-known public figure who spreads his culinary messages to the world. his demented comments about encouraging people to slaughter and eat horses are, and should continue to be, met with as much outrageous, attention-grabbing stunts like PETA's. It's a great come-back for his gross, demented words. The horses are innocent, not Gordon Ramsey.
Eating a horse is no different to eating a cow or a pig.
What PETA did is pretty much symbolic of the animal rights movement. A steaming pile of horse shit. They disagree with something, which is fair enough, but then they try and force it on other people. They do really nasty and terrible things and achieve nothing except move their cause backwards.
Dude, do you have a heart in your chest? Nah. I get it -- you hate animals. Do you realize how gross of a human being that makes you? You self-hating moron. Grow up, take a look at the world around you, learn to embrace, rather than hate.
I don't hate animals. Quite the opposite, it's just that I don't see anything wrong with us taking our part in the circle of life and eating them too.
Shooting a horse in the face clearly wasn't a serious suggestion, however it is exactly on the same level as dumping a pile of shit outside a restaurant.
wait, wait -- are you a sociopath by chance? you're equating killing someone with putting a pile of harmless poo on a doorstep? yes, you do hate animals. and people who hate animals tend to hate other people (which I can tell you do by your tone) and are likely self-haters too. You've got anger issues, and the fact that you think eating monkeys and horses is neat-o is no coincidence.
Putting the morality of shooting a horse in the face aside, it's on the same level as dumping shit outside a restaurant, the only difference being it's only the animal rights crowd that would stoop to such a stupid attack.
i think you will find that shooting a horse is the murder of an inocent animal. dumping manure outside claridges is simpily pissing off gordon ramsey. is that not a huge differance?
"Would you fight your corner so passionately if it were about a child?" -- Oh yes, I would, and I have. I'm not going to tell you my life story here, but suffice it to say, I have fought for human rights as much as I have for animals. And that is a sign of a true humanitarian -- someone who's able to understand the value of ALL life and to fight to preserve it, instead of exploiting it.
I can understand your view that we should value life in everything and that is correct. But it is still wrong - even in protest - to damage perhaps the livelihood of one man, who employs a lot of people who depend upon him for their livelihoods and their families for the sake of putting a point across.
Instead, a simple letter or telephone call would have no doubt sufficed, rather than to agressively seek a way of viewing an opinion.
Of course, they wrote him and tried to have a sit-down with him before they did this. One thing that a lot of people don't know about groups like Peta is that they always make written and personal contact with the person before they pull a 'stunt.' Believe me, they attempted to talk to him about the horrors of horse slaughter, transportation (just try to imagine a horse hanging upside down by one long leg as its throat is being slashed, following a hellish journey in a crammed truck).
(cont'd). Now, to me, the question would be: why in the world would we want to do this to a horse? To any animal? Just so that we can have a slice of its meat on a plate, when there are so many other delicious non-meat foods available? It makes no sense. It's just total, utter gluttony and I think the human race is better than that. And that's the message that Peta had tried repeatedly to send to Gordon. The message didn't get through. So they pull a dramatic stunt.
(cont'd). Sorry, this is getting long, but I have one final thought: I am certain that this stunt did nothing to damage Gordon's livelihood. He seems to be doing just as fine as he did before the stunt. Peta approaches its stunts carefully, otherwise they'd be sued so much they would have no money left. They're not stupid. What this stunt did, at the very least, is draw attention to the barbarism of horse slaughter. It was a double message to Gordon and the rest of the world.
Once again, thanks for your response - and if we had more people in the world that did this - it would be a much friendlier place.
There is an article which I will find for you to advise Gordon did not have any contact at first to whomever did this. The intent was to damage reputation, and to send a message.
However. Yes, it is in our rights to freely express our views and opinions. You have expressed yours and I have expressed mine. In a peaceful non-argumentative manner....
Oh good, you fight for human rights. I am glad to hear you are against abortion. You go girl. Tell me, if the animal dies naturally from old age, is it wrong to then eat it?
Ok, looks like you're stalking me now. Creepy. I'm not against abortion. I'm against making abortion illegal. Abortion is not a pleasant thing -- it's, first and foremost, traumatic and risky for the mother. I believe that instead of focusing on making abortion illegal, we should focus on figuring out ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies through better sex education.
Don't flatter yourself. I just like arguing on youtube. I could just as well be arguing with a guy. I couldn't respond to your comments on the other video. Not sure why. If you don't want to continue the conversation then say so, or don't respond. I am really interested in your answer to "if an animal dies naturally from old age, is it wrong to then eat it?" Is it immoral to eat animals or is it just not compassionate?
In our society, in ALL societies, an animal that is consumed by humans dies by ARTIFICIAL means. It is raised and then slaughtered, or hunted with guns. There are no places where humans wait for an animal to die of natural causes and THEN eat it. I don't eat meat because I KNOW how barbarically and inhumanely animals are raised and slaughtered. But if tomorrow, a cow dies on my lawn of natural causes and it is the only source of food available, I might consider eating it. But only then.
What do you mean by artificial? That is a pretty arbitrary thing to say. Humans evolved on this earth by natural processes just like everything else. Therefore, everything humans do is natural. Why do environmentalists and animal rights people always insist humans are destroying the natural state of the earth etc. WE ARE PART OF NATURE, PRODUCTS OF NATURE. Our livestock production is just as natural as anything a wild animal does. Furthermore, the earth is dynamic, there is no natural state.
I really can't see what you have against eating fish that are caught in the ocean. They can be born in a "natural" environment. If we don't eat them they will probably be eaten by another fish anyway. Would you eat fish that are caught in a humane manner in the ocean?
If there was an awful drought and there were no crops, would it be okay to kill and eat animals then? To save human lives, babies?
I live in the part of France where it was first produced. Many of my relatives produce it on their farms so I have tried many types. Even over here it can be expensive as it is considered a luxury. If you get a chance to try it you should as it's delicious.
Well, I think PETA should clear up the mess. Theres nothing wrong with eating horse meat, I live in France and buy it from our local market once a week and it taste great.
yes, there IS something wrong with eating horse meat. it shows you're callous. if you eat horse meat, you might eat monkey meat, dog meat, etc. Where do you draw the line? If your answer is nowhere, you've got problems. Ramsey's so angry and looks twice his age because he makes food from suffering animals, day in and day out. It's affected his mental and physical state. People who treat animals with disregard will do the same to other people.
There is NOTHING wrong with eating horse meat. I live in a country where we live to eat and enjoy great food. And believe it or not, I have tried monkey when I was based in Malaysia. You have to respect other cultures, we can not all be the same.
Also, don't call me callous as you know nothing about me.
You are callous by virtue of the fact that you think animals are only meant for human consumption. that is so sad and shallow. instead of embracing the animal kingdom, preserving it, you choose to stuff it in your mouth -- despite the incredible wealth of other products available to us humans. this has nothing to do with culture. compassion transcends cultures. i'm sure there are cultures in this world that see nothing wrong with cannibalism -- should we respect them too?
"if you eat horse meat, you might eat monkey meat, dog meat, etc." That's right, one taste of horse meat and you'll immediately rush to the zoo to eat a monkey. There's no way of stopping it.
Are you just fucking stupid? There is nothing wrong with eating meat, especially when it's specifically bred for eating.
Not to mention the benefits you get from meat. Any meat eater could kick the crap out of a veggie.
you just proved my point -- you are angry and frustrated, like all staunch meat-eaters. nothing wrong with eating meat, huh? did you know it makes men impotent? chew on that, sucker! vegetarians are healthier and live longer than meat eaters. ignorant fools like you end up screwed in the end. furthermore, factory meat farming is a horrible polutant, corrupt industry made up of overworked underpaid immigrants. you support that kinda stuff, huh? you're a sucker.
More impotent men will mean less children, so there will be less people to pollute your valuable planet and eat your precious animals.
Not that meat makes you impotent anyway, since the vast majority of people in the world will have had a father who wasn't a vegetarian. Chew on that sucker.
Ignorant fools like me will end up bigger and stronger than any vegetarian due to meat eating.
I can see it from both sides, I enjoy eatting meat, but I will admit there is a disconnection with where its come from. Some cultures have an emotional connection with their meat before they eat it, modern society just buys meat from the mechanized killing factory. When we get it, it hard to imagine that it used to have a face. Yet it tastes so good.
mcgenetics 7 months ago
Wait sherribailey75...
You say, in the same breathe, that you are against the slaughter of animals, but you are NOT against the slaughter of infants still in the womb???
You must be a PETA person, who we all know, are some screwed-up-in-the-head morons. And your statement justifies that reasoning.
GreenManalichi 2 years ago
Peta is messed up
hkitty383 3 years ago
hahahaha that is RIDICUOLOUS.
killkong 3 years ago
There's no difference between eating a horse or a cow- the reason PETA (who are against all meat eating) protested this is that this is the kind of action more likely to gain public support. PETA have no consistency or integrity- they regularly compromise their principles for the sake of publicity.
Similarly, activists protest animal testing while ignoring factory farms- there are far more people who eat meat than are disabled, so the activists will lose support if they disrupt meat farming.
McLurker 3 years ago
I agree McLurker, and may I say - well said.
I disagree with domestic abuse of animals and any kind of cruelty. Yet, I would not compromise my own principles for the sake of a two inch column on page 14 of the latest tabloid.
Surely these activist groups could find something better to do with their time. Campaign to rid Paedophiles from our streets to keep our children safe? Jail rapists and murderers for life? Possibilities are endless...
StephyUK 3 years ago
sum one putt all dat dere coz gordon used horse barbecue
hollo69 4 years ago
Probly an act from PETA and I wouldn't be surprised if Gordon had and an "All you can eat meat day" because of it he knows how to fight dirty XP
HaloLvl43Legit 4 years ago
i dont seem wots the difference between eating pork and beef and other meat
milly0999 4 years ago
where do u all think horses end up after their racing careers?????buried???no,served at eateries arund the world.We eat ducks,chickens,geese,lambs,why not a horse????its got omega 3 fats and is high in protein.The bodybuilder..serge nubret eat horsemeat everyday.
davesporty 4 years ago
(SPAM) I prefer horse meat
jegun 4 years ago
I think shes gone to grab a burger.
jegun 4 years ago
I think sherribailey75 must have been sexually abused by a piece of bacon as a small child. Its the only explanation for her(?) complete hatred of meat.
WillB85 4 years ago
Vegetables have feelings too.
jegun 4 years ago
Are you a horse?
jegun 4 years ago
Meat is good for your
jegun 4 years ago
Sounds like your the one eating the hormone infected meat, chill take a pill.
jegun 4 years ago
I'll find you some horse meat
jegun 4 years ago
You two, WillB85 and jegun, are clearly in love, head over heels for each other. You should get your own room, and discuss your weird bordering-on-beastiality love for horse meat. You two are giving me the heebie jeebies, good bye!
sherribailey75 4 years ago
Me and jegun are both awesome and agree with each other which obviously means we're in love. Makes sense.
Or maybe not eating enough meat has fucked your brain up.
Probably that.
WillB85 4 years ago
I wish I could get hold of some horse steak just out of spite now.
WillB85 4 years ago
Do you reckon that PETA force fed those poor horses to create enough manure for thier publicity stunt. Lets start up a group to protect those poor animals from scum like PETA
jegun 4 years ago
PETA rules for doing this. No one else has the guts. Ha, ha, force feeding horses! Are you a total moron? Did you finish high school? Horses shit manure without being force fed, you dummy! Why are you animal-hating, meat-chopping boneheads all so pitifully stupid?
sherribailey75 4 years ago
No, it's not guts, it's just that nobody else is this stupid. It's completely unreasonable for them to force what they believe on an innocent persons business. All they have done is made their organisation even less credible than before.
WillB85 4 years ago
this "innocent" person is a world-known public figure who spreads his culinary messages to the world. his demented comments about encouraging people to slaughter and eat horses are, and should continue to be, met with as much outrageous, attention-grabbing stunts like PETA's. It's a great come-back for his gross, demented words. The horses are innocent, not Gordon Ramsey.
sherribailey75 4 years ago
Eating a horse is no different to eating a cow or a pig.
What PETA did is pretty much symbolic of the animal rights movement. A steaming pile of horse shit. They disagree with something, which is fair enough, but then they try and force it on other people. They do really nasty and terrible things and achieve nothing except move their cause backwards.
WillB85 4 years ago
Gordon Ramsey should retaliate by shooting a horse in the face outside a PETA activist's house.
WillB85 4 years ago
Right-on brother
jegun 4 years ago
Dude, do you have a heart in your chest? Nah. I get it -- you hate animals. Do you realize how gross of a human being that makes you? You self-hating moron. Grow up, take a look at the world around you, learn to embrace, rather than hate.
sherribailey75 4 years ago
I don't hate animals. Quite the opposite, it's just that I don't see anything wrong with us taking our part in the circle of life and eating them too.
Shooting a horse in the face clearly wasn't a serious suggestion, however it is exactly on the same level as dumping a pile of shit outside a restaurant.
WillB85 4 years ago
wait, wait -- are you a sociopath by chance? you're equating killing someone with putting a pile of harmless poo on a doorstep? yes, you do hate animals. and people who hate animals tend to hate other people (which I can tell you do by your tone) and are likely self-haters too. You've got anger issues, and the fact that you think eating monkeys and horses is neat-o is no coincidence.
Learn the facts, silly angry.
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sherribailey75 4 years ago
I only hate stupid people, that's probably what you're picking up.
Yopu're right, I'm not a fan of insane animal rights nuts and the fact I eat meat is no coincidence. It's because I rock as do all meat eaters.
WillB85 4 years ago
sory... am i missing something here?
"Gordon Ramsey should retaliate by shooting a horse in the face outside a PETA activist's house."
"I don't hate animals. Quite the opposite"
so... you love animals... but you quite freely support somone shooting one in the face?
mustan101 4 years ago
I wasn't serious.
Putting the morality of shooting a horse in the face aside, it's on the same level as dumping shit outside a restaurant, the only difference being it's only the animal rights crowd that would stoop to such a stupid attack.
WillB85 4 years ago
i think you will find that shooting a horse is the murder of an inocent animal. dumping manure outside claridges is simpily pissing off gordon ramsey. is that not a huge differance?
mustan101 4 years ago
But sherri - you are the one promoting hate here.
Would you fight your corner so passionately if it were about a child?
Humans come before animals, and I would rather eat a horse than promote hatred of dumping a 'harmless pile of poo' outside of somebody's business.
That is aggressive and promotes hate in my opinion.
StephyUK 3 years ago
"Would you fight your corner so passionately if it were about a child?" -- Oh yes, I would, and I have. I'm not going to tell you my life story here, but suffice it to say, I have fought for human rights as much as I have for animals. And that is a sign of a true humanitarian -- someone who's able to understand the value of ALL life and to fight to preserve it, instead of exploiting it.
sherribailey75 3 years ago
Ok. Thank you for your response.
I can understand your view that we should value life in everything and that is correct. But it is still wrong - even in protest - to damage perhaps the livelihood of one man, who employs a lot of people who depend upon him for their livelihoods and their families for the sake of putting a point across.
Instead, a simple letter or telephone call would have no doubt sufficed, rather than to agressively seek a way of viewing an opinion.
StephyUK 3 years ago
Of course, they wrote him and tried to have a sit-down with him before they did this. One thing that a lot of people don't know about groups like Peta is that they always make written and personal contact with the person before they pull a 'stunt.' Believe me, they attempted to talk to him about the horrors of horse slaughter, transportation (just try to imagine a horse hanging upside down by one long leg as its throat is being slashed, following a hellish journey in a crammed truck).
sherribailey75 3 years ago
(cont'd). Now, to me, the question would be: why in the world would we want to do this to a horse? To any animal? Just so that we can have a slice of its meat on a plate, when there are so many other delicious non-meat foods available? It makes no sense. It's just total, utter gluttony and I think the human race is better than that. And that's the message that Peta had tried repeatedly to send to Gordon. The message didn't get through. So they pull a dramatic stunt.
sherribailey75 3 years ago
(cont'd). Sorry, this is getting long, but I have one final thought: I am certain that this stunt did nothing to damage Gordon's livelihood. He seems to be doing just as fine as he did before the stunt. Peta approaches its stunts carefully, otherwise they'd be sued so much they would have no money left. They're not stupid. What this stunt did, at the very least, is draw attention to the barbarism of horse slaughter. It was a double message to Gordon and the rest of the world.
sherribailey75 3 years ago
Once again, thanks for your response - and if we had more people in the world that did this - it would be a much friendlier place.
There is an article which I will find for you to advise Gordon did not have any contact at first to whomever did this. The intent was to damage reputation, and to send a message.
However. Yes, it is in our rights to freely express our views and opinions. You have expressed yours and I have expressed mine. In a peaceful non-argumentative manner....
StephyUK 3 years ago
Oh good, you fight for human rights. I am glad to hear you are against abortion. You go girl. Tell me, if the animal dies naturally from old age, is it wrong to then eat it?
locoamigodemiami 3 years ago
Ok, looks like you're stalking me now. Creepy. I'm not against abortion. I'm against making abortion illegal. Abortion is not a pleasant thing -- it's, first and foremost, traumatic and risky for the mother. I believe that instead of focusing on making abortion illegal, we should focus on figuring out ways to prevent unwanted pregnancies through better sex education.
sherribailey75 3 years ago
Don't flatter yourself. I just like arguing on youtube. I could just as well be arguing with a guy. I couldn't respond to your comments on the other video. Not sure why. If you don't want to continue the conversation then say so, or don't respond. I am really interested in your answer to "if an animal dies naturally from old age, is it wrong to then eat it?" Is it immoral to eat animals or is it just not compassionate?
locoamigodemiami 3 years ago
In our society, in ALL societies, an animal that is consumed by humans dies by ARTIFICIAL means. It is raised and then slaughtered, or hunted with guns. There are no places where humans wait for an animal to die of natural causes and THEN eat it. I don't eat meat because I KNOW how barbarically and inhumanely animals are raised and slaughtered. But if tomorrow, a cow dies on my lawn of natural causes and it is the only source of food available, I might consider eating it. But only then.
sherribailey75 3 years ago
What do you mean by artificial? That is a pretty arbitrary thing to say. Humans evolved on this earth by natural processes just like everything else. Therefore, everything humans do is natural. Why do environmentalists and animal rights people always insist humans are destroying the natural state of the earth etc. WE ARE PART OF NATURE, PRODUCTS OF NATURE. Our livestock production is just as natural as anything a wild animal does. Furthermore, the earth is dynamic, there is no natural state.
locoamigodemiami 3 years ago
I really can't see what you have against eating fish that are caught in the ocean. They can be born in a "natural" environment. If we don't eat them they will probably be eaten by another fish anyway. Would you eat fish that are caught in a humane manner in the ocean?
If there was an awful drought and there were no crops, would it be okay to kill and eat animals then? To save human lives, babies?
locoamigodemiami 3 years ago
I live in the part of France where it was first produced. Many of my relatives produce it on their farms so I have tried many types. Even over here it can be expensive as it is considered a luxury. If you get a chance to try it you should as it's delicious.
jegun 4 years ago
Jegun, living in France must be great. Have you tried Foie gras? We can buy it here but its very expensive.
Kansas707 4 years ago
Do you eat meat?
jegun 4 years ago
It was a few years ago when I tried it, I enjoyed the taste, like lamb but not as strong.
jegun 4 years ago
I often eat horse meat, its better for you than beef, what does monkey taste like?
Kansas707 4 years ago
Well, I think PETA should clear up the mess. Theres nothing wrong with eating horse meat, I live in France and buy it from our local market once a week and it taste great.
jegun 4 years ago
yes, there IS something wrong with eating horse meat. it shows you're callous. if you eat horse meat, you might eat monkey meat, dog meat, etc. Where do you draw the line? If your answer is nowhere, you've got problems. Ramsey's so angry and looks twice his age because he makes food from suffering animals, day in and day out. It's affected his mental and physical state. People who treat animals with disregard will do the same to other people.
sherribailey75 4 years ago
There is NOTHING wrong with eating horse meat. I live in a country where we live to eat and enjoy great food. And believe it or not, I have tried monkey when I was based in Malaysia. You have to respect other cultures, we can not all be the same.
Also, don't call me callous as you know nothing about me.
jegun 4 years ago
You are callous by virtue of the fact that you think animals are only meant for human consumption. that is so sad and shallow. instead of embracing the animal kingdom, preserving it, you choose to stuff it in your mouth -- despite the incredible wealth of other products available to us humans. this has nothing to do with culture. compassion transcends cultures. i'm sure there are cultures in this world that see nothing wrong with cannibalism -- should we respect them too?
sherribailey75 4 years ago
"if you eat horse meat, you might eat monkey meat, dog meat, etc." That's right, one taste of horse meat and you'll immediately rush to the zoo to eat a monkey. There's no way of stopping it.
Are you just fucking stupid? There is nothing wrong with eating meat, especially when it's specifically bred for eating.
Not to mention the benefits you get from meat. Any meat eater could kick the crap out of a veggie.
WillB85 4 years ago
you just proved my point -- you are angry and frustrated, like all staunch meat-eaters. nothing wrong with eating meat, huh? did you know it makes men impotent? chew on that, sucker! vegetarians are healthier and live longer than meat eaters. ignorant fools like you end up screwed in the end. furthermore, factory meat farming is a horrible polutant, corrupt industry made up of overworked underpaid immigrants. you support that kinda stuff, huh? you're a sucker.
sherribailey75 4 years ago
Sorry, the oldest person in the world was a meat eater, she sadly died 2 years ago and being French she would have enjoyed a nice streak
jegun 4 years ago
More impotent men will mean less children, so there will be less people to pollute your valuable planet and eat your precious animals.
Not that meat makes you impotent anyway, since the vast majority of people in the world will have had a father who wasn't a vegetarian. Chew on that sucker.
Ignorant fools like me will end up bigger and stronger than any vegetarian due to meat eating.
WillB85 4 years ago
And migrant farm workers, havesting fruits and vegetables, are treated so well!!! ha ha. I like this debate. Too bad I arrived a year too late.
locoamigodemiami 3 years ago