@chica476 Not really. Charles could only shout about how he was in the Army, as if that gave him some special insight into interrogation techniques of terrorists.
@drunkmilf77IQ So just repeat what I said as factual [and thank you very much] then blather about Romneys 14% tax payment being 'peachy frickin keen'....I mean WTF?!? heh heh You think that's gonna fly with American people as 76% say you're full of 'bull pucky'. You lose
@Matildough I have no idea what you are babbling on about. I didn't mention Romney. Once again, you are generating random nonsense with a troll twist. Not impressed.
Bob, as you were commenting earlier, he's aware that his tariff politics couldn't pass at a present day. He just continues with his mice and cat game as he's tighter, smarter, and better than rest of us.
Bob don't you think a darkdingleberry asshole the Ralph Lauren shirts like the Walmart? Is darkdingleberry Prozac should use antidepressant unless coming on YouTube before the Bob Jones University at 1950's to 1960's old school.
What's so difficult to say that you didn't do any drugs in the past. I will be honest with you and I have never had drugs. I am not e en a smoker. Have you done any drugs in your life?
@dean0800 Dean my good friend. I’ll be honest. I smoked cigarettes for a great many years and quit cold turkey 4 years ago. But I have to admit “quit” seems incorrect as I still get urges so I sometimes think I am still trying! Also use to smoke pot years ago but not so much lately. However this last September was the first time I did in many years. Cont
@BobSTK As you were sharing your professional story with us, I hope your organization will survive in a today's everchanging environment. Tariffs would actually hurt your company as you have explained earlier. It's a point of time where the most countries participate in the global business and free trade areas.
@dean0800 Actually, tariffs would help his industry as a whole, but neither wingnuts understand the issue enough to see it. But of course you are free to believe whatever fantasies you wish.
@dean0800 Dean, No, we are strictly oil related. We are an OEM specializing in geophysical data collection. I am sure you are aware there are numerous companies in Houston specializing in all aspects of the oil & gas industry from exploration to delivery at the pump
@BobSTK How often do you the guys change or revise the products and its product line? I am sure that today's almost everything a shorter product life cycle. It's challenging to stay in a business and keep up with very low cost living standards abroad while the American ones are very high.
@dean0800 Dean as with all modern companies dealing in technology, new designs are constantly being researched and developed. We succeeded mainly because we "specialize" in the oil industry. If we were competing in general consumer products like Computers / TV's for instance then it would be a different story.
@dean0800 And to answer your irrelevant troll-induced question, dipshit, no I haven't done and drugs in the past. Not a smoker either. Thing is, I don't go parading that around like I'm better than everyone like some insecure wingnuts...kind of like how I don't think I'm better than anyone who chooses not to buy brand name shirts.
@dean0800 .... BTW – never tried anything “Harder” so to say. And my friends many of which are successful professionals have a very similar story to mine. One thing I can say is that pot is not a “Gateway” drug in the sense that it leads to other and possibly harmful drugs because of some sort of addiction or need for a better high.
@BobSTK It's nice that you have had the good times smoking a pot. It will not suprise me that darkdingleberry accuses you being a liberal hippie who smokes a joint.
@dean0800 "It will not surprise me that darkdingleberry accuses you being a liberal hippie"
That's because you believe fallacious stereotypes that are peddled by your hateful ilk while you know nothing of individual positions held by people. So, you started off trying to slander me with being a drug user only to backpedal when Bob admits to smoking joints. Classic deanie. Personally, I'm for the decriminalization of drugs.
@Darkrift777 I am not against smoking a pot. I was wondering if you were hooked up on very hard substances. It's nothing wrong if you use it. It's a problem if you couldn't handle appropriately.
@dean0800 Liberal hippies are indeed a threat to national security, but smoking a joint doesn't make one a "liberal hippie", bumblescum. Glad I could help clear that up.
@dean0800 See, liberal policy has continually shown to damage this country. We are still suffering from liberal policy that was made decades ago. Liberals are indeed a threat to the nation, and that is why they should be kept out of power by voting in responsible people who don't believe in leftist ideology.
@Darkrift777 It's a bipolar competition and you have to deal with it. You will always have a mainstream left and right politics along with the moderates.
@dean0800 Bob, a darkdingleberry the liberals and moderates superior a conservatives. The asshole believes a too bad as outnumber a bipolar and coalition to make.
@dean0800 Incidentally, conservatives outnumber liberals 2 to 1. Don't try to pretend that you have more affiliation to moderates, wingnut. The "coalition" if any, will be shared among moderates, libertarians, conservatives and republicans - and that will be a greater number than an alliance between liberals, socialists and communists every time. Bring it on.
@BobSTK Bob, a darkdingleberry drugs liberal hippie at the smokes for the high. He's continues mice and cat game for tariff at Bob Jones University in the old school 1970's to 1980's.
@BobSTK Once again, thank you for sharing with us a professional case scenario at your work. It was a pleasure to know what’s going on with the U.S. manufactures which compete globally at a present day. The most countries including the U.S. play its own roles in the free trade pools and we are all of aware that the fittest ones should survive. As you have said earlier, darkdingleberry would resume with smoke and mirror because he can’t’s sell the tariff politics.
@dean0800 I don't need to "sell tariff politics" to you, wingnut. Your opinion doesn't change the outcome of this nation one whit. So, a deangleberry, a derp de derp de teetily tum. A smoke and mirror to compete globally in a 1960's to 1970's the Bob Jones University as you have said, a asshole to resume.
Not related to anything, Just feel like telling this. A friend’s wife works for Shell Oil here in Houston. A while ago she attended a meeting. (If you know anything about these large companies it’s if you work anywhere a “desk” you will attend multiple meetings a week. Anyway she E-Mailed a co-worker after and about the meeting....
@BobSTK ... A boss saw the E-Mail... apparently liked it and she and the co-worker each received a nice little bonus check for $2,500 next payday. It must be nice! Needless to say, the Oil companies are doing just fine and seem to be looking for creative ways to distribute the money!
Get yourself a professional help asshole. I am not only a person who noticed that you have the psychological and personal disorders. Aren't you by any chance the former alcoholic or a drug addict during your earlier and youth days?
@dean0800 I suggest you take your own advice, dipshit. Your juvenile attempts at coming up with an original troll retort are laughable. You lack the intellect, irrelevant grub. You've failed in every argument you've tried to make here today, and all you have to show for it is baseless accusations of me being an alcoholic or drug addict? Pathetic. You are flailing about wildly, with both arms circling like propellers. Really quite comical actually. Why don't you cry to Bob more, honey?
"We have the finances to develop automated processes if it made sense"
Of course, and I understand completely. It just doesn't make fiscal sense for them because it is currently a little cheaper to exploit underpaid Mexican slave labor than invest in robotics.
@BobSTK As long as the need is currently being met via cheap Mexican labor, there is no need for your company to seek alternatives and invest in automated manufacturing of their own. Doesn't mean they lack the resources to do so if they needed to. I suspect they would be able to adapt just fine if they no longer had to rely on slaves to get their component parts.
@dean0800 If you have some new insight and something of substance to contribute to the discussion, I'm open to reading it. As it is, you have reduced yourself to petty juvenile namecalling and outbursts that show your insecurity, ineptitude at communication, and social need to interact with bob and troll at me.
@dean0800 Yes they can .. and they would... fortunatly our product while slightly higher in price it is also technically better. Right now we both have a share of the Mid- East and world market. But if we weren't competivive in pricing then the China product would take over.
@dean0800 Bob's speculation is simply that. His position isn't based on any workable and provable "consequence" of tariffs. Nice try though, both of you.
"You can find a proof among all if those who addressed your own lacks and the personality disorders."
You prove my point. That wasn't even a sentence. You simply have no grasp of the English language so how can you be expected to interpret my sentences correctly? You can't. Nothing more pathetic than a troll who can't even communicate. tsk tsk
I checked the quality of the "designer label" clothing as opposed to the "no name" brands carried by Walmart and there is no substantial difference in quality to justify the price differential, crackhead. In addition, both the no name brands and designer labels are manufactured in the same Chinese sweatshops, doofus. But like I said, if you need that ego boost and feeling of superiority by being a sucker for a corporate logo, then you deserve to lose your money to them. Good for them.
Bob, what's wrong with him? He doesn't get in his thick head that American's living standards can't compete with the transitioning economies. Tariffs wouldn't force the corps to establish the man. operations at home.
"doesn't get it in his think head that American's living standards can't compete with the transitioning economies"
Fool, we aren't talking about "transitioning economies". China is very well established slave (socialist) labor. And my entire point IS that we can't compete with that, dum-dum. Wow, you are an idiot. Tariffs attempt to make competition with slave labor possible when clearly it is not possible now.
@dean0800 "Tariffs wouldn't force the corps to establish the man. operations at home"
Since we are one of the largest consumers of those products, of course it would. If companies understand that it is more cost effective to manufacture on American soil rather than outsourced slave labor to China, you better believe they would come back here. To the corporations, it's about the dollar. They would bring the jobs back if it was cost effective, and tariffs is the way to do just that.
@dean0800 Bottom line is, take a modern economics course, as you currently are outdated even though you laughably accuse me of being so even as you lack any argument to prop up your beliefs. Sheesh.
@Darkrift777 You should take a refreshing and or modern economic course soon as possible, because you are too a joke, and because you still think that is possible for the corps to bring back the manufacturing operations within the U.S. borders. You still live in the 1950s. How old are you anyway?
I wasn't much wrong about you. Remember the jobs that are already gone aren't coming back to the states and tariffs wouldn't help you. They will rather send you to the political retirement than dissolve the free trade.
Dead wrong, actually. To the point where you fabricated your own argument and claimed it was mine. You did that several times. The only question is whether or not you did so because you are a troll that wants to lie deliberately, or are you simply too dim-witted and unschooled in the English language to derive my position.
Darkdingleberry NAFTA, WTO and other free trade agreements are stronger than any of your tariff arguments. It's too bad and you are blind to recognize your own stupidity.
Bob, read darkdingleberry's comment where he says that the socialized overseas workforce doesn't work well with the corps. He's not aware that those folks are taking away the jobs at home.
@dean0800 "read darkdingleberry's comment where he says that the socialized overseas workforce doesn't work well with the corps"
Again, you show acute reading comprehension failure. I never said anything of the sort. What I said was that we can't compete with socialized slave labor. They will always be able to provide a cheaper product by paying their socialist workers pennies on the dollar. Peanuts really.
"He's not aware that those folks are taking away the jobs"
Bingo Bob. He really needs the comprehension classes. You aren't just a person who told him about his lacks. I, problem49, sob guy and many others, too.
Bob, darkdingleberry is aware that his old school and tariffs don't work at a present day. He has no other options than playing a mice and a cat game: I am better than you, I am right and you are wrong, I won and you lost an argument.
@dean0800 Dean, One of the first things the founding fathers did was to impose tariffs (taxes). Reason? The Revolutionary War was not cheap! Not to protect American Industry or the American Worker. Although shortly afterward they were imposed in the name of protecting new and growing American Industries. I guess an argument can be made for a reasonable import tax. But to believe that American consumer doesn’t eventually pay for it is just nonsense.
@BobSTK Tariffs took the place of income taxes at the time of the founding. We didn't have income taxes.
"to believe that the American consumer doesn't eventually pay for it is just nonsense."
That was your argument, not mine. I said that they would pay a bit more for non slave labor made products, but this would be offset by having more and higher paid jobs on American soil. I know you remember so you can stop lying by parading around another straw man fallacy.
@Darkrift777 “Tariffs take the place of.....” What the fuck is your point? I stated as much as that to start with you asshole.... And as far as you saying “they would pay a bit more...” you said that “after” you backed yourself into the corner and had your silly ass kicked. Who the fuck are you trying to impress? blainedingleberry? yourself? Listen fool there are only a few reading here. So why don’t you quit your childish lying & defensive posts? You aren’t fooling anybody. Next !
I don't know how many different ways I can explain it to you Tink. Either you have the intelligence to grasp the english language or you don't. Simple as that.
Ah, the delusions of the liberally insane... tsk tsk
"Who the fuck are you trying to impress"
Nobody. I am trying to get you to understand economics, which seems beyond your current ability, I'm afraid. However, I can't say the same for you. You seem to be putting on a performance so that you can receive the praise of your counterpart.
@BobSTK Anyone can make a mistake, but darkdingleberry really has the comprehension problems. As OSG used to say that he is a pathological liar, he isn’t anymore clear about his own perceptions. He is just a joke as he thinks that the tariffs would close down the plants overseas and move back the manufacturing operations at home. He doesn’t get that the American living standards are very expensive and cost insufficient for the corps.
@dean0800 "OSG used to say that he is a pathological liar"
Incidentally, she only did so because, like you, she is a parrot. I pointed out how she was prone to posting lie after lie (as I did so with you by pointing out your straw man fabrications when you claimed them to be my positions) and identified her as a pathological liar. All she could do is parrot it back to me. Sad, eh? Reminds me of your pathetic situation. Ask bob for more help.
@dean0800 "he isn't anymore clear about his own perceptions"
Oh, I've been clear. You just have reading comprehension problems when it comes to the English language, that's all.
"he thinks that the tariffs would close down the plants overseas"
And you have not been able to provide a single valid point how this wouldn't happen. All you've been able to do is deny, troll, and ask Tinkerbel for praise. tsk tsk
@dean0800 Dean, here in Houston I deal with all the major electronic component distributors. Avnet, TTI & Sager to name a few. And also local manufacturers specializing in custom electronics. If my company needs a small prototype supply of transformers, say 500 units or less they are made here. Any larger quantities are made in Mexico. By that company’s division located there (not slave labor). I often buy 500 pieces at $35.00 per and then for production runs of 10,000 at $2.75 ea. ...
@dean0800 This saves our company a tremendous amount of money so we can compete in the world market. (We sell our product all over the world as it is an oil field product in high demand.) Now... the Chinese also make a competitive although not quite as good a product (IMO). However if we didn’t take advantage of the lower priced components we get from Mexico we could not compete as price is a factor. ...
@dean0800 Our final product is somewhat more expensive than the product from China but technically better. However if the price advantage we get from components made in Mexico were wiped out by tariffs we could not compete. Of course we could relocate the entire company to Mexico! This scenario is true with a great many US companies competing in world wide markets. Tariffs would kill many businesses just here in Houston.
@BobSTK "Tariffs would kill many businesses just here in Houston"
Doubtful. What it would do is create a demand for a local component manufacturing plant in your area instead of having you rely on exploitation of Mexicans. You would adapt to a market where you might have to pay a little bit more for component parts, yes, or manufacture them yourselves. That creates a need for increasing your efficiency. Manufacturing more component parts for less cost. It can be done without slave labor.
@Darkrift777 You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. There were a few strong Manufacturers of Custom Transformers in Houston for years. Now mainly there is 1 and it is forced to have large amounts of its manufacturing done in Mexico. Our end product is made here and sold world wide. If we can't compete then China will be the world supplier. A total loss to the USA. You really don't understand that we CAN NOT GO IT ALONE !
@Darkrift777 ???? Who is exploiting slave labor? Please point out where I said that. And I believe I stated that our product is technically better. Never the less pricing is a factor to the end user.
@BobSTK You are saying your business couldn't "go it alone" which I expect you meant that it couldn't operate without buying component parts from Mexico that pay its workers in pennies. Was I wrong to arrive at that conclusion?
As I suspected. It is quality that keeps you competitive, though no doubt the Chinese could make a cheaper (and less quality) product and underbid you.
@BobSTK Essentially, you are a monopoly with a very select clientele. If you don't find a way to make your product more efficiently, you WILL eventually lose your business to the Chinese. In this particular case, it is true that import tariffs wouldn't protect your company since you market your product overseas yet at the same time China doesn't sell your end product on American soil either. Component parts can be mass produced on U.S. soil with automated systems regardless.
@Darkrift777 Where to begin? BTW .. China does sell it’s product here on US soil. In fact China bought one of the companies here in Houston and moved it to China! Automated systems? I know you won’t understand this but not every manufacturing process lends itself to be done better and controlled by automation. Sheer volume is a major consideration when deciding if automation is economically feasible.
@BobSTK "China bought one of the companies here in Houston and moved it to China"
...because it is more profitable to manufacture those goods via slave labor and then export the parts back to the U.S., and all because there is no tariff that would make it unprofitable for them to do so.
@Darkrift777 The development and use of robotics in manufacturing is very costly and job or task specific. In many manufacturing situations it is not profitable to replace “human hands” with an automated device that would take many thousands of dollars to design and months or years before it is ready for the manufacturing floor. Only to manufacture a product with a short life-span. Understand? I really don’t want to go on about this. It is so obvious.
@Darkrift777 ... You just don't understand. Hundreds? Actually thousands... and they are relatively small requiring hand soldering and the assembly of many small components. And the design shape does change relatively often. To develope a robot just is not feasible. Believe me... if it were... it would be done.
All the more reason to automate it, if it isn't already which I highly doubt. Small parts don't require "hand soldering". Robotic automation has done that for years. Think of the computer industry as a prime example.
@Darkrift777 Are you trying to sound smart? You are not. 15 years ago our product was the size of a foot locker and needed a field truck to process the information collected in the field.. Today it's the size of a sandwich and uses GPS. Change the schematic???? STFU fool!
@Darkrift777 OK... I’m done with you fool as you obviously are arguing for the sake of arguing. Come to Houston, visit the Schlumberger, Baker Atlas or Halliburton manufacturing floors and tell me how much automation compared to hands on manufacturing you see. Next
Are the component parts you need changed or updated with regularity? Somehow I doubt it, but then again you know best as you work in the industry. Then again, I see no reason why you would tell me anything other than what you think would provide you with the most solid argument, regardless of the truth or not.
@BobSTK And yes, you "CAN NOT GO IT ALONE" (never my position) without making adjustments. That's what business is about - adapting to an ever-changing market. If you don't, you stagnate and are left behind. I understand perfectly, Bob, and like I told dean, claiming otherwise doesn't change that.
@dean0800 Without giving out too specific information, Saudi and Mid-East oil interests have talked of a need for over 3 million units of this particular product. And the products are not cheap! If we can’t supply them (I mean the 1 or 2 manufacturers in the USA) then China will be more that happy to do so. It will be a total loss of money coming into the USA from exporting.
@dean0800 "aware that his old school and tariffs don't work"
I am aware that they do work, that the current system of trying to compete with socialized slave labor doesn't work, and that you have no argument to the contrary to prove me wrong. All you have (as predicted) is a relationship with Clownshoes where you both praise each other and take turns stroking your ego's. Pathetic.
To the two unemployed lying trolls Tinkerdum and Tweetledean - try harder.
I'll be back in a bit to check your "progress", but I suspect it will be nothing more than the same bullshit lies, straw man fabrications, and verbal mutual masturbation between the two of you.
Darkdingleberry you should go back to school and take refreshing college courses. Ones you have taken in the 1970s and 1980s are a part of an old school system.
You are right, Bob. As darkdingleberry is aware that his old school economic course doesn't work at a present day, he's trying to change his position and act like he hasn't said or understood.
@dean0800 "old school economic course doesn't work at a present day"
You have failed to make an effective argument that my "old school" idea about tariffs wouldn't work. Instead you do what you are known to do, which is state "matter of factly" that you are right and everyone else is incorrect. You two really are flailing about wildly. Add some actual substance to your argument, and I don't mean fabricate a straw man and pretend it is my position. Sheesh.
@dean0800 "he's trying to change his position and act like he hasn't said"
Where did I ever say: "keep buying homemade goofy cars"? You're lying like a typical leftist that has lost an argument. I never said anything of the sort. Keep fabricating.
Darkdingleberry, I did nothing wrong about my own assessment of preferences of Honda and Toyota against the Detroit made cars. It's you who think that Americans will keep buying homemade goofy cars if you tariff and isolate the foreign cars.
@BobSTK- really? All I have to do us wait for Obama to open his mouth to find something he is lying about. And not justifying newt. Just pointing out how you hypocrites pounce so hard on a republican, for something like he said she said, but a person who raped a women, Clinton, and a person who ran for help to cover his ass while a women drowned, they get the slide. Tell me, do you think Obama manipulated and/or lied about anything last night?
@theBlaine26 Wow! Are you really darkdingleberry? Maybe you don’t know this but President Clinton was impeached (look it up). Kennedy was “THE NEWS” for over a solid year back in ’69 – ’70. Possibly you’re too young to remember but I suspect you’re biased or just fucking stupid. Next!
@Darkrift777 darkdingleberry you really have me ROTFL!!!! "Calling" ??? I think not .... as i was asking blainedingleberry if he is actually you. Pleas please please try those reading comprehension classes. Oh BTW I think this one's over....
I think so, actually, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned anything of the sort. You know, you make a good parrot, bob. Moments after I tell dean that he needs to work on his comprehension, you claim I need "reading comprehension classes". Bravo for having no independent thought whatsoever.
Bob, I have liked your comment to Blaine about two having sex and being drunk. Blaine, like other right wingnuts, thinks about someone prior to getting born. Soon as someone is born, he doesn't give a damn about that child.
@BobSTK- how do you expect him to defend it other than what he said, which he said was a lie and he had friends who could back him up. Do I have this straight? You are willing to look and judge by this allegation, but, if you rape someone or cover your own ass and let a young girl die, it's ok because they have a (D) with their name. And also, glad you can help prove the point that you can have a possible "slip" in your personal life and still be a good leader.
@theBlaine26 One thing at a time....”let a young girl die”? Can you explain how you know that? As we will never now for sure, I’ll stick with my own idea for what happened. That is, 2 consenting adults, very drunk, she was probably trying to suck his dick and being drunk and with foggy conditions he accidentally drove over the bridge. LET her die? I doubt it... but he probably was in no shape to do much other than to drag himself out of the water. What’s your point anyway?
@BobSTK Bob, Darkdingleberry still can’t get in his thick head that the tariffs wouldn’t work at a present day. It’s difficult for some people to acknowledge that the jobs that are already gone overseas aren’t coming back to the states. As I and you are aware of a today’s economic course and world order, the U.S. can’t conduct commerce in isolation.
@theBlaine26 Is this your game plan? Justifying goongrich’s lowlife character as being ok because somebody else has done as bad? Well I guess that is about all you have to fight with. Sucks doesn’t it? I’ll “betch ya” you’ve been waiting over 3 years to find some sensational garbage to use against President Barack Obama. I think you’re in for a long wait... better pack a lunch.
@Darkrift777 darkdingleberry, LOL fool! Of course you don’t want to share this so called “sensational garbage” about our President Barack Obama that I somehow missed do you?... Didn’t think so. Let me ask... Do you just flap your yapper for exercise or out of pure ignorance thinking you gain some sort of victory by having the last word?
Seriously? You can't think of any negative things te guy has done, which you so partisanly call "sensational garbage" in your zeal to cover over his failures? tsk tsk
@theBlaine26 These radical nutballs are pure partisan hacks. They only care if a person has a (D) or (R) by the name. "ra ra ra for my team" nutjobs that are oblivious to everything else.
@MoronsMuffakaDarkWhatever Good Lord you mental midget are you still haunting all the pages ? Haven't you been humiliated enough you guttersnipe ? How many socks do you have now ? You look increasing desperate with your illogical ongoing delusions and lies. Most people on Youtube have wiped their feet upon your tongue.
@FactCheck2009 Homie swings like that...he likes being treated like a dipshit floor mat. Dankmuff77IQ/Lib-Blower's a total Pigbaugh anit-American Kock Bros blowin Teatard/Repug dipdung scumbag who's not allowed to leave his building for fear of school children walking by and re-reporting his/her fake phony homophobic racist ass.
I hope I covered most of the details etc. He had a job last week...I mean it didn't last a week. She's heart broken and reverting back to 'blowies w/tips' in the park!!
@Darkrift777 You have said that a quality isn't issue for lower demands of the Detroit manufactured vehicles. Therefore there is no differernces in a quality between the Japanese and American sedans for you, since the quality doesn't mean anything to you. By the way, are you owning the Japanese or European car or you are dealing with 1992 Plymouth Voyager piece of shit family van that has over 150xxx that is more often at the car shop?
@dean0800 I said that a tariff wouldn't affect the quality of a product, therefore it isn't an issue. Regardless of the presence of a tariff or not, companies know they can't sell junk because people won't buy it. It's really quite simple, but you neanderthals don't want to see it.
Dankmuff Anything to deflect from Pigbaugh channel and his 'drug infested kiddie lovin' 'jail em jail em' approach to offering more lies and bullshit. Figured you had a job by now. Guess the knee pads wore out and you're back at home bugging parents again.
To bad I had to make you look like a total ass on 'GM now worlds largest auto maker', as it seems 5 day old current events and your propensity for supporting anything that's not 'American Made', is pathetic and unpatriotic to boot!! ta ta
@MrClaydough Mr "Anyone who visits the DR is a pedo", you are a real joke.
"I had to make you look like a total ass on 'GM now worlds largest auto maker' as it seems 5 day old current events"
I don't think so, doofus. You have been well documented as a liar on countless occasions. I didn't even yet read your "response" (if any) to my GM conversation.
@BobSTK- so you do know about newts private life? Have you ever had a girlfriend not agree with a break up, and say anything to get back at you? If it is such a big deal, why didn't Ted Kennedy get a Lil more criticism for manslaughter? Or Clinton for the rape he committed. The news didn't want to touch that. Even though she had the proof.
@theBlaine26 blainedingleberry... LOL Why didn't Kennedy get more critisim? He did you tool. He got plenty. In all likelyhood it cost him the Presidency. Is your gripe because he still went on to be an excellent Senator?
@theBlaine26 blainedinglebery, concerning goongrich's ex wifes story. I heard it and tend to believe it. Even more now because goongrich himself could offer no counter when asked. His attempt to deflect the issue and attack the questioner sort of proves the validity of her story. But I really wouldn't expect you to understand.
@BobSTK- I prefer a guy to "attack" when questioned about baseless claims from a scorned ex wife at a debate, rather than a "rat" that blames the ex president for why things aren't going the way he wants. As for lies and manipulation, how many of Obama's "promises" has he delivered on? Talk about "misdirection". Also, nice for Obama to turn down the pipeline, all bc a big contributor said he wouldn't donate if Obama passed it. Gotta love that "hope and change". Haha
@theBlaine26 blainedingleberry...“baseless claims”? “scorned ex wife” ??? And you know this how? Seriously.... You think she made it up? You really don’t understand that goongritch was just being defensive? I guess you don’t... which just proves my point. You fools swallow all his shit without thinking. Want a glass if piss to wash it down with?
I am reminded of many libs who accused Monica Lewinsky of that very thing, and all because they wanted to protect Clinton. You swallowed all his shit without thinking, so you just seem comical with your flip flopping of positions.
@Darkrift777 darkdingleberry, I’d like to say “Nice try” but actually you are not even close. Since I had never even heard of YouTube at the time of the M. Lewinsky affair you have no idea what you are yapping about. You never heard me comment on it. But since you seem to be interested in my opinion... I always assumed the event happened. Why would she make that up and even involve Tripp? Same with goongrich’s second wife.
@Darkrift777 Darkdingleberry, usually you will use your standard smoke & mirror techniques to wiggle out of the holes you dig yourself into. But this time you are actually lying. And you know it. I never had a conversation with you defending or denying the M. Lewinsky incident. Honestly I am a little surprised as you like to Preach from the Highest Pulpit.
Lol, Rush says the caller knows nothing... irony, huh?
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@chica476 Not really. Charles could only shout about how he was in the Army, as if that gave him some special insight into interrogation techniques of terrorists.
Darkrift777 7 hours ago
@drunkmilf77IQ So just repeat what I said as factual [and thank you very much] then blather about Romneys 14% tax payment being 'peachy frickin keen'....I mean WTF?!? heh heh You think that's gonna fly with American people as 76% say you're full of 'bull pucky'. You lose
MrClaydough 2 days ago
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@Matildough I have no idea what you are babbling on about. I didn't mention Romney. Once again, you are generating random nonsense with a troll twist. Not impressed.
Darkrift777 1 day ago
Bob, as you were commenting earlier, he's aware that his tariff politics couldn't pass at a present day. He just continues with his mice and cat game as he's tighter, smarter, and better than rest of us.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 You just babble the same cut & paste nonsense that you posted before. Were you aware of your problem?
Darkrift777 2 days ago
Bob don't you think a darkdingleberry asshole the Ralph Lauren shirts like the Walmart? Is darkdingleberry Prozac should use antidepressant unless coming on YouTube before the Bob Jones University at 1950's to 1960's old school.
Typical dean troll-FAIL.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
What's so difficult to say that you didn't do any drugs in the past. I will be honest with you and I have never had drugs. I am not e en a smoker. Have you done any drugs in your life?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Dean my good friend. I’ll be honest. I smoked cigarettes for a great many years and quit cold turkey 4 years ago. But I have to admit “quit” seems incorrect as I still get urges so I sometimes think I am still trying! Also use to smoke pot years ago but not so much lately. However this last September was the first time I did in many years. Cont
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK As you were sharing your professional story with us, I hope your organization will survive in a today's everchanging environment. Tariffs would actually hurt your company as you have explained earlier. It's a point of time where the most countries participate in the global business and free trade areas.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Actually, tariffs would help his industry as a whole, but neither wingnuts understand the issue enough to see it. But of course you are free to believe whatever fantasies you wish.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 Dean the company is doing very well... Has for years and the future looks great... We will be on OIL for many years to come !
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK That's the great news! I assume that your company is trying to be lean and efficient.
dean0800 2 days ago
@BobSTK Do you the guys look into the green investments?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Dean, No, we are strictly oil related. We are an OEM specializing in geophysical data collection. I am sure you are aware there are numerous companies in Houston specializing in all aspects of the oil & gas industry from exploration to delivery at the pump
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK How often do you the guys change or revise the products and its product line? I am sure that today's almost everything a shorter product life cycle. It's challenging to stay in a business and keep up with very low cost living standards abroad while the American ones are very high.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Dean as with all modern companies dealing in technology, new designs are constantly being researched and developed. We succeeded mainly because we "specialize" in the oil industry. If we were competing in general consumer products like Computers / TV's for instance then it would be a different story.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK Can I ask your few questions concerning those operations at your work?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 And to answer your irrelevant troll-induced question, dipshit, no I haven't done and drugs in the past. Not a smoker either. Thing is, I don't go parading that around like I'm better than everyone like some insecure wingnuts...kind of like how I don't think I'm better than anyone who chooses not to buy brand name shirts.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 .... BTW – never tried anything “Harder” so to say. And my friends many of which are successful professionals have a very similar story to mine. One thing I can say is that pot is not a “Gateway” drug in the sense that it leads to other and possibly harmful drugs because of some sort of addiction or need for a better high.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK It's nice that you have had the good times smoking a pot. It will not suprise me that darkdingleberry accuses you being a liberal hippie who smokes a joint.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 "It will not surprise me that darkdingleberry accuses you being a liberal hippie"
That's because you believe fallacious stereotypes that are peddled by your hateful ilk while you know nothing of individual positions held by people. So, you started off trying to slander me with being a drug user only to backpedal when Bob admits to smoking joints. Classic deanie. Personally, I'm for the decriminalization of drugs.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 I am not against smoking a pot. I was wondering if you were hooked up on very hard substances. It's nothing wrong if you use it. It's a problem if you couldn't handle appropriately.
dean0800 2 days ago
@BobSTK A darkdingleberry no doubt the drug smoker. A asshole believes the joint because he for the liberal.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK Darkdingleberry has said long time ago that the liberal hippies are a threat to the national security? What do you think about his assesment?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Liberal hippies are indeed a threat to national security, but smoking a joint doesn't make one a "liberal hippie", bumblescum. Glad I could help clear that up.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 So like an old woman you try the indirect method of trolling at me via your crutch, bob. LOL so silly.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 See, liberal policy has continually shown to damage this country. We are still suffering from liberal policy that was made decades ago. Liberals are indeed a threat to the nation, and that is why they should be kept out of power by voting in responsible people who don't believe in leftist ideology.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 It's a bipolar competition and you have to deal with it. You will always have a mainstream left and right politics along with the moderates.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 You believe a darkdingleberry old school voting to be handle appropriately of a problem.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 Of a competition ask Bob the mainsteam moderates a have always liberal policy.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 It's too bad for you. Moderates and Liberals jointly can always outnumber and make a coalition against the conservatives.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Bob, a darkdingleberry the liberals and moderates superior a conservatives. The asshole believes a too bad as outnumber a bipolar and coalition to make.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 Incidentally, conservatives outnumber liberals 2 to 1. Don't try to pretend that you have more affiliation to moderates, wingnut. The "coalition" if any, will be shared among moderates, libertarians, conservatives and republicans - and that will be a greater number than an alliance between liberals, socialists and communists every time. Bring it on.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 How many libertarians and conservatives do you have in the Senate and the House of Representatives?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 "How many libertarians and conservatives do you have in the Senate"
Not enough.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 It must be a number. You can list the senators and representatives that you consider libertarians and conservatives.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 "It must be a number"
Yes, it must be.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 Are the conservatives a minority in the Senate and HOR?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 I'd imagine so, and certainly not the same ratio of representation of conservatives to the nation.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK Bob, a darkdingleberry drugs liberal hippie at the smokes for the high. He's continues mice and cat game for tariff at Bob Jones University in the old school 1970's to 1980's.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK Once again, thank you for sharing with us a professional case scenario at your work. It was a pleasure to know what’s going on with the U.S. manufactures which compete globally at a present day. The most countries including the U.S. play its own roles in the free trade pools and we are all of aware that the fittest ones should survive. As you have said earlier, darkdingleberry would resume with smoke and mirror because he can’t’s sell the tariff politics.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Yawn at your cut and paste driven and fawning over bob's baseless and non-historically/non-science/non-economics based opinion.
But yes, thank you for sharing Bob.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 I don't need to "sell tariff politics" to you, wingnut. Your opinion doesn't change the outcome of this nation one whit. So, a deangleberry, a derp de derp de teetily tum. A smoke and mirror to compete globally in a 1960's to 1970's the Bob Jones University as you have said, a asshole to resume.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
Not related to anything, Just feel like telling this. A friend’s wife works for Shell Oil here in Houston. A while ago she attended a meeting. (If you know anything about these large companies it’s if you work anywhere a “desk” you will attend multiple meetings a week. Anyway she E-Mailed a co-worker after and about the meeting....
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK ... A boss saw the E-Mail... apparently liked it and she and the co-worker each received a nice little bonus check for $2,500 next payday. It must be nice! Needless to say, the Oil companies are doing just fine and seem to be looking for creative ways to distribute the money!
BobSTK 2 days ago
Get yourself a professional help asshole. I am not only a person who noticed that you have the psychological and personal disorders. Aren't you by any chance the former alcoholic or a drug addict during your earlier and youth days?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 I suggest you take your own advice, dipshit. Your juvenile attempts at coming up with an original troll retort are laughable. You lack the intellect, irrelevant grub. You've failed in every argument you've tried to make here today, and all you have to show for it is baseless accusations of me being an alcoholic or drug addict? Pathetic. You are flailing about wildly, with both arms circling like propellers. Really quite comical actually. Why don't you cry to Bob more, honey?
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 You would fail 2nd grade English, you know that right? LOL
Darkrift777 2 days ago
Bob darkdingleberry should use the Prozac or any other antidepressant prior to logging on YouTube.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Chirping in with more irrelevant troll comments, weenie?
Darkrift777 2 days ago
This is not M&P shop. We have the finances to develop automated processes if it made sense.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK "This is not M&P shop"
Never said it was.
"We have the finances to develop automated processes if it made sense"
Of course, and I understand completely. It just doesn't make fiscal sense for them because it is currently a little cheaper to exploit underpaid Mexican slave labor than invest in robotics.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
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@BobSTK As long as the need is currently being met via cheap Mexican labor, there is no need for your company to seek alternatives and invest in automated manufacturing of their own. Doesn't mean they lack the resources to do so if they needed to. I suspect they would be able to adapt just fine if they no longer had to rely on slaves to get their component parts.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
Bob, this tariff whore is too obsessed with the Chinese labor.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 "this tariff whore"
Spoken like a true lowbrow USSR troll.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 If you have some new insight and something of substance to contribute to the discussion, I'm open to reading it. As it is, you have reduced yourself to petty juvenile namecalling and outbursts that show your insecurity, ineptitude at communication, and social need to interact with bob and troll at me.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
Bob, can the Saudis buy those products from the Chinese if you couldn't sell them at a price they want to pay?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Yes they can .. and they would... fortunatly our product while slightly higher in price it is also technically better. Right now we both have a share of the Mid- East and world market. But if we weren't competivive in pricing then the China product would take over.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK Essentially what you are saying is that your business couldn't make it without exploiting slave labor from either Mexico or China.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 "can the Saudis buy those products from the Chinese if you couldn't sell them at a price they want to pay?"
Are you serious? Of course they can. What would prevent them?
Darkrift777 2 days ago
Bob, it seems that the Saudis may buy the Chinese if they couldn't get from the u.s firm.
dean0800 2 days ago
Bob thanks for sharing a real professional info about those products, world wide market, and consequences of tariffs.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 Bob's speculation is simply that. His position isn't based on any workable and provable "consequence" of tariffs. Nice try though, both of you.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
"You can find a proof among all if those who addressed your own lacks and the personality disorders."
You prove my point. That wasn't even a sentence. You simply have no grasp of the English language so how can you be expected to interpret my sentences correctly? You can't. Nothing more pathetic than a troll who can't even communicate. tsk tsk
Darkrift777 2 days ago
I checked the quality of the "designer label" clothing as opposed to the "no name" brands carried by Walmart and there is no substantial difference in quality to justify the price differential, crackhead. In addition, both the no name brands and designer labels are manufactured in the same Chinese sweatshops, doofus. But like I said, if you need that ego boost and feeling of superiority by being a sucker for a corporate logo, then you deserve to lose your money to them. Good for them.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
Moronic troll.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
As you are not clear you think that the designer Ralph Lauren shirt has same quality as one that is sold at Walmart.
dean0800 2 days ago
You can find a proof among all if those who addressed your own lacks and the personality disorders.
dean0800 2 days ago
Bob, what's wrong with him? He doesn't get in his thick head that American's living standards can't compete with the transitioning economies. Tariffs wouldn't force the corps to establish the man. operations at home.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 "what's wrong with him"
I don't tolerate your lies, that's what.
"doesn't get it in his think head that American's living standards can't compete with the transitioning economies"
Fool, we aren't talking about "transitioning economies". China is very well established slave (socialist) labor. And my entire point IS that we can't compete with that, dum-dum. Wow, you are an idiot. Tariffs attempt to make competition with slave labor possible when clearly it is not possible now.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@dean0800 "Tariffs wouldn't force the corps to establish the man. operations at home"
Since we are one of the largest consumers of those products, of course it would. If companies understand that it is more cost effective to manufacture on American soil rather than outsourced slave labor to China, you better believe they would come back here. To the corporations, it's about the dollar. They would bring the jobs back if it was cost effective, and tariffs is the way to do just that.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@dean0800 Bottom line is, take a modern economics course, as you currently are outdated even though you laughably accuse me of being so even as you lack any argument to prop up your beliefs. Sheesh.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@Darkrift777 You should take a refreshing and or modern economic course soon as possible, because you are too a joke, and because you still think that is possible for the corps to bring back the manufacturing operations within the U.S. borders. You still live in the 1950s. How old are you anyway?
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 "You should take a refreshing and or modern economic course"
Wow, good parroting! What a loser.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
I wasn't much wrong about you. Remember the jobs that are already gone aren't coming back to the states and tariffs wouldn't help you. They will rather send you to the political retirement than dissolve the free trade.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 "I wasn't much wrong about you"
Dead wrong, actually. To the point where you fabricated your own argument and claimed it was mine. You did that several times. The only question is whether or not you did so because you are a troll that wants to lie deliberately, or are you simply too dim-witted and unschooled in the English language to derive my position.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@dean0800 "tariffs wouldn't help you"
False again. Simply claiming otherwise doesn't help your position.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
Darkdingleberry NAFTA, WTO and other free trade agreements are stronger than any of your tariff arguments. It's too bad and you are blind to recognize your own stupidity.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 "It's too bad and you are blind to recognize your own stupidity"
Ditto and right back at'cha!
Darkrift777 3 days ago
Bob, read darkdingleberry's comment where he says that the socialized overseas workforce doesn't work well with the corps. He's not aware that those folks are taking away the jobs at home.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 "read darkdingleberry's comment where he says that the socialized overseas workforce doesn't work well with the corps"
Again, you show acute reading comprehension failure. I never said anything of the sort. What I said was that we can't compete with socialized slave labor. They will always be able to provide a cheaper product by paying their socialist workers pennies on the dollar. Peanuts really.
"He's not aware that those folks are taking away the jobs"
Oh dear. FAIL.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@BobSTK- why are you dean0800?
theBlaine26 3 days ago
Bingo Bob. He really needs the comprehension classes. You aren't just a person who told him about his lacks. I, problem49, sob guy and many others, too.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 off to exercise Dean. Keep up the good work!
BobSTK 3 days ago
Bob, darkdingleberry is aware that his old school and tariffs don't work at a present day. He has no other options than playing a mice and a cat game: I am better than you, I am right and you are wrong, I won and you lost an argument.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 Dean, One of the first things the founding fathers did was to impose tariffs (taxes). Reason? The Revolutionary War was not cheap! Not to protect American Industry or the American Worker. Although shortly afterward they were imposed in the name of protecting new and growing American Industries. I guess an argument can be made for a reasonable import tax. But to believe that American consumer doesn’t eventually pay for it is just nonsense.
BobSTK 3 days ago
@BobSTK Tariffs took the place of income taxes at the time of the founding. We didn't have income taxes.
"to believe that the American consumer doesn't eventually pay for it is just nonsense."
That was your argument, not mine. I said that they would pay a bit more for non slave labor made products, but this would be offset by having more and higher paid jobs on American soil. I know you remember so you can stop lying by parading around another straw man fallacy.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@Darkrift777 “Tariffs take the place of.....” What the fuck is your point? I stated as much as that to start with you asshole.... And as far as you saying “they would pay a bit more...” you said that “after” you backed yourself into the corner and had your silly ass kicked. Who the fuck are you trying to impress? blainedingleberry? yourself? Listen fool there are only a few reading here. So why don’t you quit your childish lying & defensive posts? You aren’t fooling anybody. Next !
BobSTK 3 days ago
@BobSTK "What the fuck is your point"
I don't know how many different ways I can explain it to you Tink. Either you have the intelligence to grasp the english language or you don't. Simple as that.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@BobSTK "backed yourself into the corner"
Ah, the delusions of the liberally insane... tsk tsk
"Who the fuck are you trying to impress"
Nobody. I am trying to get you to understand economics, which seems beyond your current ability, I'm afraid. However, I can't say the same for you. You seem to be putting on a performance so that you can receive the praise of your counterpart.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@BobSTK Anyone can make a mistake, but darkdingleberry really has the comprehension problems. As OSG used to say that he is a pathological liar, he isn’t anymore clear about his own perceptions. He is just a joke as he thinks that the tariffs would close down the plants overseas and move back the manufacturing operations at home. He doesn’t get that the American living standards are very expensive and cost insufficient for the corps.
dean0800 2 days ago
@dean0800 "OSG used to say that he is a pathological liar"
Incidentally, she only did so because, like you, she is a parrot. I pointed out how she was prone to posting lie after lie (as I did so with you by pointing out your straw man fabrications when you claimed them to be my positions) and identified her as a pathological liar. All she could do is parrot it back to me. Sad, eh? Reminds me of your pathetic situation. Ask bob for more help.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 "He dosn't get that the American living standards are very expensive"
Sure I do. I never said otherwise, liar.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 "he isn't anymore clear about his own perceptions"
Oh, I've been clear. You just have reading comprehension problems when it comes to the English language, that's all.
"he thinks that the tariffs would close down the plants overseas"
And you have not been able to provide a single valid point how this wouldn't happen. All you've been able to do is deny, troll, and ask Tinkerbel for praise. tsk tsk
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 Dean, here in Houston I deal with all the major electronic component distributors. Avnet, TTI & Sager to name a few. And also local manufacturers specializing in custom electronics. If my company needs a small prototype supply of transformers, say 500 units or less they are made here. Any larger quantities are made in Mexico. By that company’s division located there (not slave labor). I often buy 500 pieces at $35.00 per and then for production runs of 10,000 at $2.75 ea. ...
BobSTK 2 days ago
@dean0800 This saves our company a tremendous amount of money so we can compete in the world market. (We sell our product all over the world as it is an oil field product in high demand.) Now... the Chinese also make a competitive although not quite as good a product (IMO). However if we didn’t take advantage of the lower priced components we get from Mexico we could not compete as price is a factor. ...
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK You claim that you could not compete but who are you competing with in the first place? Who are your clients?
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 Our final product is somewhat more expensive than the product from China but technically better. However if the price advantage we get from components made in Mexico were wiped out by tariffs we could not compete. Of course we could relocate the entire company to Mexico! This scenario is true with a great many US companies competing in world wide markets. Tariffs would kill many businesses just here in Houston.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK "Tariffs would kill many businesses just here in Houston"
Doubtful. What it would do is create a demand for a local component manufacturing plant in your area instead of having you rely on exploitation of Mexicans. You would adapt to a market where you might have to pay a little bit more for component parts, yes, or manufacture them yourselves. That creates a need for increasing your efficiency. Manufacturing more component parts for less cost. It can be done without slave labor.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. There were a few strong Manufacturers of Custom Transformers in Houston for years. Now mainly there is 1 and it is forced to have large amounts of its manufacturing done in Mexico. Our end product is made here and sold world wide. If we can't compete then China will be the world supplier. A total loss to the USA. You really don't understand that we CAN NOT GO IT ALONE !
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK "You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about"
No, you have no idea what the fuck I am talking about would be more accurate. You haven't told me why China isn't the world supplier already?
"CAN NOT GO IT ALONE!"
That was never my position. My position was you could run your business without exploiting slave labor to do so.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 ???? Who is exploiting slave labor? Please point out where I said that. And I believe I stated that our product is technically better. Never the less pricing is a factor to the end user.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK You are saying your business couldn't "go it alone" which I expect you meant that it couldn't operate without buying component parts from Mexico that pay its workers in pennies. Was I wrong to arrive at that conclusion?
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK "our product is technically better"
As I suspected. It is quality that keeps you competitive, though no doubt the Chinese could make a cheaper (and less quality) product and underbid you.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK Essentially, you are a monopoly with a very select clientele. If you don't find a way to make your product more efficiently, you WILL eventually lose your business to the Chinese. In this particular case, it is true that import tariffs wouldn't protect your company since you market your product overseas yet at the same time China doesn't sell your end product on American soil either. Component parts can be mass produced on U.S. soil with automated systems regardless.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 Where to begin? BTW .. China does sell it’s product here on US soil. In fact China bought one of the companies here in Houston and moved it to China! Automated systems? I know you won’t understand this but not every manufacturing process lends itself to be done better and controlled by automation. Sheer volume is a major consideration when deciding if automation is economically feasible.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK "Sheer volume is a major consideration"
True. I would need to know more about the specific component parts.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK "China bought one of the companies here in Houston and moved it to China"
...because it is more profitable to manufacture those goods via slave labor and then export the parts back to the U.S., and all because there is no tariff that would make it unprofitable for them to do so.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 The development and use of robotics in manufacturing is very costly and job or task specific. In many manufacturing situations it is not profitable to replace “human hands” with an automated device that would take many thousands of dollars to design and months or years before it is ready for the manufacturing floor. Only to manufacture a product with a short life-span. Understand? I really don’t want to go on about this. It is so obvious.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK Are your parts hand made? I thought you required hundreds of the same part? How is it that automated manufacturing isn't used?
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 ... You just don't understand. Hundreds? Actually thousands... and they are relatively small requiring hand soldering and the assembly of many small components. And the design shape does change relatively often. To develope a robot just is not feasible. Believe me... if it were... it would be done.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK "thousands"
All the more reason to automate it, if it isn't already which I highly doubt. Small parts don't require "hand soldering". Robotic automation has done that for years. Think of the computer industry as a prime example.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK Even computer component designs change rapidly, and all it takes is writing a program to accomodate the change in schematic.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 Are you trying to sound smart? You are not. 15 years ago our product was the size of a foot locker and needed a field truck to process the information collected in the field.. Today it's the size of a sandwich and uses GPS. Change the schematic???? STFU fool!
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK 15 years ago our product was the size of a foot locker...Today it's the size of a sandwich"
So, in other words, it's hardly different than the computer industry at all, doofus.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK "Are you trying to sound smart?"
What was your problem? Was it my use of the word "schematic" that you viewed as too "cerebral" for you? It's not that "advanced" a word.
"STFU fool!"
And you were doing so well, acting your age for once. 'Course, lasted about 10 minutes before your troll relapse, but hey. It's a start.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@Darkrift777 OK... I’m done with you fool as you obviously are arguing for the sake of arguing. Come to Houston, visit the Schlumberger, Baker Atlas or Halliburton manufacturing floors and tell me how much automation compared to hands on manufacturing you see. Next
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK "done with you fool as you obviously are arguing for the sake of arguing"
Funny that you don't attribute either your or dean's comments as holding those very characteristics...
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK We'll see how much longer your company can manage to manufacture ever more miniscule components by hand.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK "product with a short life-span"
Are the component parts you need changed or updated with regularity? Somehow I doubt it, but then again you know best as you work in the industry. Then again, I see no reason why you would tell me anything other than what you think would provide you with the most solid argument, regardless of the truth or not.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@BobSTK And yes, you "CAN NOT GO IT ALONE" (never my position) without making adjustments. That's what business is about - adapting to an ever-changing market. If you don't, you stagnate and are left behind. I understand perfectly, Bob, and like I told dean, claiming otherwise doesn't change that.
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 Without giving out too specific information, Saudi and Mid-East oil interests have talked of a need for over 3 million units of this particular product. And the products are not cheap! If we can’t supply them (I mean the 1 or 2 manufacturers in the USA) then China will be more that happy to do so. It will be a total loss of money coming into the USA from exporting.
BobSTK 2 days ago
@BobSTK I'm surprised you haven't lost the business to China already. Perhaps you produce a better quality product than what China could deliver?
Darkrift777 2 days ago
@dean0800 "aware that his old school and tariffs don't work"
I am aware that they do work, that the current system of trying to compete with socialized slave labor doesn't work, and that you have no argument to the contrary to prove me wrong. All you have (as predicted) is a relationship with Clownshoes where you both praise each other and take turns stroking your ego's. Pathetic.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
To the two unemployed lying trolls Tinkerdum and Tweetledean - try harder.
I'll be back in a bit to check your "progress", but I suspect it will be nothing more than the same bullshit lies, straw man fabrications, and verbal mutual masturbation between the two of you.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
Darkdingleberry you should go back to school and take refreshing college courses. Ones you have taken in the 1970s and 1980s are a part of an old school system.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 And tweedledean, you should consider a college education in the first place. tsk tsk
Darkrift777 3 days ago
You are right, Bob. As darkdingleberry is aware that his old school economic course doesn't work at a present day, he's trying to change his position and act like he hasn't said or understood.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 "old school economic course doesn't work at a present day"
You have failed to make an effective argument that my "old school" idea about tariffs wouldn't work. Instead you do what you are known to do, which is state "matter of factly" that you are right and everyone else is incorrect. You two really are flailing about wildly. Add some actual substance to your argument, and I don't mean fabricate a straw man and pretend it is my position. Sheesh.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@dean0800 "he's trying to change his position and act like he hasn't said"
Where did I ever say: "keep buying homemade goofy cars"? You're lying like a typical leftist that has lost an argument. I never said anything of the sort. Keep fabricating.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
Darkdingleberry what make and model you own?
dean0800 3 days ago
Darkdingleberry, I did nothing wrong about my own assessment of preferences of Honda and Toyota against the Detroit made cars. It's you who think that Americans will keep buying homemade goofy cars if you tariff and isolate the foreign cars.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 "I did nothing wrong"
I didn't say you did anything "wrong", you just lack the cognitive ability to discern any argument written in the English language.
"keep buying homemade goofy cars"
Again, liar, that was never my position. Ever. You two wackos are peas in a pod. Totally dysfunctional people.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@BobSTK- really? All I have to do us wait for Obama to open his mouth to find something he is lying about. And not justifying newt. Just pointing out how you hypocrites pounce so hard on a republican, for something like he said she said, but a person who raped a women, Clinton, and a person who ran for help to cover his ass while a women drowned, they get the slide. Tell me, do you think Obama manipulated and/or lied about anything last night?
theBlaine26 3 days ago
@theBlaine26 Wow! Are you really darkdingleberry? Maybe you don’t know this but President Clinton was impeached (look it up). Kennedy was “THE NEWS” for over a solid year back in ’69 – ’70. Possibly you’re too young to remember but I suspect you’re biased or just fucking stupid. Next!
BobSTK 3 days ago
@BobSTK Tinkerbel, I never said Clinton wasn't impeached. Of course he was.
"suspect you're biased"
LOL and you aren't?!
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@Darkrift777 so? You are Blaine???????? LMFAO !
BobSTK 3 days ago
@BobSTK "You are Blaine????"
Damn, you're dumb. No, read what I said. I was pointing out how you were silly for calling him "darkdingleberry".
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@Darkrift777 darkdingleberry you really have me ROTFL!!!! "Calling" ??? I think not .... as i was asking blainedingleberry if he is actually you. Pleas please please try those reading comprehension classes. Oh BTW I think this one's over....
BobSTK 3 days ago
@BobSTK "Calling??? I think not"
I think so, actually, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned anything of the sort. You know, you make a good parrot, bob. Moments after I tell dean that he needs to work on his comprehension, you claim I need "reading comprehension classes". Bravo for having no independent thought whatsoever.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
Anybody that listens to limbaugh is a lunatic
na7m88 3 days ago
@na7m88 Anybody that still tunes in to Obama's rhetoric and is affected by it is a lunatic.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
Bob, I have liked your comment to Blaine about two having sex and being drunk. Blaine, like other right wingnuts, thinks about someone prior to getting born. Soon as someone is born, he doesn't give a damn about that child.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 "I have liked your comment to Blaine about two having sex and being drunk"
Of course, as it reminded you of your perverted relationship with the Clownshoes.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@BobSTK- how do you expect him to defend it other than what he said, which he said was a lie and he had friends who could back him up. Do I have this straight? You are willing to look and judge by this allegation, but, if you rape someone or cover your own ass and let a young girl die, it's ok because they have a (D) with their name. And also, glad you can help prove the point that you can have a possible "slip" in your personal life and still be a good leader.
theBlaine26 4 days ago
@theBlaine26 One thing at a time....”let a young girl die”? Can you explain how you know that? As we will never now for sure, I’ll stick with my own idea for what happened. That is, 2 consenting adults, very drunk, she was probably trying to suck his dick and being drunk and with foggy conditions he accidentally drove over the bridge. LET her die? I doubt it... but he probably was in no shape to do much other than to drag himself out of the water. What’s your point anyway?
BobSTK 4 days ago
@BobSTK Bob, Darkdingleberry still can’t get in his thick head that the tariffs wouldn’t work at a present day. It’s difficult for some people to acknowledge that the jobs that are already gone overseas aren’t coming back to the states. As I and you are aware of a today’s economic course and world order, the U.S. can’t conduct commerce in isolation.
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 "tariffs wouldn't work at a present day"
That's because your argument to the contrary is weak and baseless ie your opinion.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@theBlaine26 Is this your game plan? Justifying goongrich’s lowlife character as being ok because somebody else has done as bad? Well I guess that is about all you have to fight with. Sucks doesn’t it? I’ll “betch ya” you’ve been waiting over 3 years to find some sensational garbage to use against President Barack Obama. I think you’re in for a long wait... better pack a lunch.
BobSTK 4 days ago
@BobSTK "find some sensational 'garbage' to use against President Barack Obama"
You must not keep up with current events. That, or you only tune in to biased leftwingnut media that doesn't report anything negative on the Big 0.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@Darkrift777 darkdingleberry, LOL fool! Of course you don’t want to share this so called “sensational garbage” about our President Barack Obama that I somehow missed do you?... Didn’t think so. Let me ask... Do you just flap your yapper for exercise or out of pure ignorance thinking you gain some sort of victory by having the last word?
BobSTK 3 days ago
@BobSTK "Didn't think so"
Seriously? You can't think of any negative things te guy has done, which you so partisanly call "sensational garbage" in your zeal to cover over his failures? tsk tsk
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@theBlaine26 These radical nutballs are pure partisan hacks. They only care if a person has a (D) or (R) by the name. "ra ra ra for my team" nutjobs that are oblivious to everything else.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@MoronsMuffakaDarkWhatever Good Lord you mental midget are you still haunting all the pages ? Haven't you been humiliated enough you guttersnipe ? How many socks do you have now ? You look increasing desperate with your illogical ongoing delusions and lies. Most people on Youtube have wiped their feet upon your tongue.
FactCheck2009 4 days ago
@FactCheck2009 Homie swings like that...he likes being treated like a dipshit floor mat. Dankmuff77IQ/Lib-Blower's a total Pigbaugh anit-American Kock Bros blowin Teatard/Repug dipdung scumbag who's not allowed to leave his building for fear of school children walking by and re-reporting his/her fake phony homophobic racist ass.
I hope I covered most of the details etc. He had a job last week...I mean it didn't last a week. She's heart broken and reverting back to 'blowies w/tips' in the park!!
MrClaydough 3 days ago
@MrClaydough "total Pigbaugh anti-American Kock Bros blowing Teatard/Repug dipdung scumbag"
Whaaaaaaaa! Keep screamin' and hollerin', Matildough. Cry me a rive with your hateful and inapplicable rants and outbursts. You child.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@Darkrift777 You have said that a quality isn't issue for lower demands of the Detroit manufactured vehicles. Therefore there is no differernces in a quality between the Japanese and American sedans for you, since the quality doesn't mean anything to you. By the way, are you owning the Japanese or European car or you are dealing with 1992 Plymouth Voyager piece of shit family van that has over 150xxx that is more often at the car shop?
dean0800 3 days ago
@dean0800 I said that a tariff wouldn't affect the quality of a product, therefore it isn't an issue. Regardless of the presence of a tariff or not, companies know they can't sell junk because people won't buy it. It's really quite simple, but you neanderthals don't want to see it.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@FactCheck2009 You still stalking certain YT users, ODG? tsk tsk
Darkrift777 3 days ago
Dankmuff Anything to deflect from Pigbaugh channel and his 'drug infested kiddie lovin' 'jail em jail em' approach to offering more lies and bullshit. Figured you had a job by now. Guess the knee pads wore out and you're back at home bugging parents again.
To bad I had to make you look like a total ass on 'GM now worlds largest auto maker', as it seems 5 day old current events and your propensity for supporting anything that's not 'American Made', is pathetic and unpatriotic to boot!! ta ta
MrClaydough 4 days ago
@MrClaydough Mr "Anyone who visits the DR is a pedo", you are a real joke.
"I had to make you look like a total ass on 'GM now worlds largest auto maker' as it seems 5 day old current events"
I don't think so, doofus. You have been well documented as a liar on countless occasions. I didn't even yet read your "response" (if any) to my GM conversation.
Toodles, homophobe!
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@BobSTK- so you do know about newts private life? Have you ever had a girlfriend not agree with a break up, and say anything to get back at you? If it is such a big deal, why didn't Ted Kennedy get a Lil more criticism for manslaughter? Or Clinton for the rape he committed. The news didn't want to touch that. Even though she had the proof.
theBlaine26 4 days ago
@theBlaine26 blainedingleberry... LOL Why didn't Kennedy get more critisim? He did you tool. He got plenty. In all likelyhood it cost him the Presidency. Is your gripe because he still went on to be an excellent Senator?
BobSTK 4 days ago
@theBlaine26 blainedinglebery, concerning goongrich's ex wifes story. I heard it and tend to believe it. Even more now because goongrich himself could offer no counter when asked. His attempt to deflect the issue and attack the questioner sort of proves the validity of her story. But I really wouldn't expect you to understand.
BobSTK 4 days ago
@BobSTK- I prefer a guy to "attack" when questioned about baseless claims from a scorned ex wife at a debate, rather than a "rat" that blames the ex president for why things aren't going the way he wants. As for lies and manipulation, how many of Obama's "promises" has he delivered on? Talk about "misdirection". Also, nice for Obama to turn down the pipeline, all bc a big contributor said he wouldn't donate if Obama passed it. Gotta love that "hope and change". Haha
theBlaine26 4 days ago
@theBlaine26 blainedingleberry...“baseless claims”? “scorned ex wife” ??? And you know this how? Seriously.... You think she made it up? You really don’t understand that goongritch was just being defensive? I guess you don’t... which just proves my point. You fools swallow all his shit without thinking. Want a glass if piss to wash it down with?
BobSTK 4 days ago
@BobSTK "You think she made it up?"
I am reminded of many libs who accused Monica Lewinsky of that very thing, and all because they wanted to protect Clinton. You swallowed all his shit without thinking, so you just seem comical with your flip flopping of positions.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@Darkrift777 darkdingleberry, I’d like to say “Nice try” but actually you are not even close. Since I had never even heard of YouTube at the time of the M. Lewinsky affair you have no idea what you are yapping about. You never heard me comment on it. But since you seem to be interested in my opinion... I always assumed the event happened. Why would she make that up and even involve Tripp? Same with goongrich’s second wife.
BobSTK 3 days ago
@BobSTK "You never heard me comment on it"
False. I've had the discussion of Clinton with you before, as well as many other radical leftists.
Darkrift777 3 days ago
@Darkrift777 Darkdingleberry, usually you will use your standard smoke & mirror techniques to wiggle out of the holes you dig yourself into. But this time you are actually lying. And you know it. I never had a conversation with you defending or denying the M. Lewinsky incident. Honestly I am a little surprised as you like to Preach from the Highest Pulpit.
BobSTK 3 days ago