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this is currently my favorite song but it keeps changing around from circa song to circa song... but this one has lasted about 2 weeks hahaha... i love circa so much... listening to them is like traveling to a whole new amazing and beautiful universe. thank you anthony green for giving me something to dream of at night
@Zombiemode1 well i recently started thinking i might be a little bi. its not worth taking the time to think abt tho, it doesnt really matter if ur gay or straight as long as u have the capacity for love, man
@ilovemolly Kellen sounds much more like the same tone as Jag from A Skylit Drive singing with similar style to Jonny Craig from DGD, Emarosa, Jonny Craig, etc.
Anthony Green stands alone though. Even if a lot of people try to imitate him.
do you think hes using "optimistic, daring me" as an allusion to one of the original Saosin songs he wrote "The perched on their stilts pointing, and daring me to break custom..." oxford comma bitches.
there is a different version of this song isn't there?
I was listening to the album and it was almost as if the song changed, I bought the album afew months ago and heard it played one way, and today I popped it in and it's like the album changed between then and now.
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Bahaha. I thought the lead singer was a girl, because I looked em up by lookin at Dance Gavin Dance comments. Lmfao, good music, but this guy has Justin Bieber syndrome.
Man I thought he was a girl for like 2 years. I was always like man cannot wait to see her. But then I found out he was a guy. Still amazing voice. And amazing and deep deep music. Loving this band. Circa fucking rocks. I have not heard anything close to them EVER.
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The singing doode kinda sounds like a chick. no offense. its my favorite song. This reminds me offf paraamore. sadly paramore sux. circa survive rox tho
@HOUSEofCRWTH if you like Circa Survive, then PLEASE look up Saosin! :) saosin had Anothony Green in it. he's this singer from circa survive :) and he got kicked out of saosin which is why he made this band. but saosin has a new similar singer named Cove Reber :) look them up. anothony green did 7 of their songs
"seven years" "translating the name" (best song ever!) "3rd measurement in C" and a couple others :) they made an album called "translating the name" so buy it please! :)
@OpenCasket19 it's the same as circa survive bro. anthony green, same singer. all the sons i just said. just cuz you dont like screamo doesn't mean you can diss on people who do.
@Duffmannnnnn yea i found that out like right after i posted this. pretty tragic. though kinda funny, Cove was in the band for seven years and anothony green made a song called "Seven Years" lol. and they all came together one time and made a video of them eating weird foods. i forget what it's called though. but that's kinda cool how they're all friends.
@sweetpary Anthony Green. His voice is rough, raw, and raspy. The perfect recipe for a very ugly voice. But Anthony somehow makes it work beautifully. Check out his album Avalon.
Circa Survive is one of the greatest bands of our time. The stuff Anthony Green comes up with is so mind boggling!!! Circa Survive will take you to another world!!
I KNOW! AND ONCE THE ALBUM IS OUT I WANNA SEE THEM IN CONCERT PROMOTING THE NEW CD <333 lol omg seriously these guys are amazing, i'll do almsot anything for them. The lyrics and beats are beautiful. ima pre-order the cd once its availible.
actually, they did break up. look up anthony green, it's his new project. also "the sound of animals fighting" which is anthony green and craig owens of chiodos
The Greatest Lie, Holding Someone's Hari Back, Kicking Your Crosses Down, The Difference Between Medicine and Poison is in the Dose, In Fear and Faith.
listen every track on both albums. They are raw and unique as fuck. definetely one of my favorite bands. best songs include stop the fuckin car, in fear and faith, the greatest lie, this song, act appalled. Anthony sings about different level type shit plus kick ass drums, dope guitar.
Juturna isn't as good as On Letting Go. Juturna, imo, is reverbed guitars with Anthony Green trying to steal the light from everyone. On Letting Go, the guitars and vocals go together better, and it's just a better album. That, and Green's vocals are very whiny/shit on In Fear And Faith.
maybe it's about religion beign a catalyst for mankind to use the dualism of war as a means of evolving evough to remove himself from the planet before a asteroid killsus all. it goes away, we go away, then we're over the word people use in this dualistic society. so then, on letting go, which you have to do to become enlightened, consider the meaning of war.
I dont understand this song but i want know what its about.... i love it and i think i love it more because i dont fully understand it yet.... anyone wanna help tell me what they think?
I am probably one of the few who actually listened to circa before saosin, they are both amazing bands, with amazing musicians, most people who dont do any research dont know if its anthony or cove singing in saosin, thats how good they both are. If you want a treat find the vid of both singing together.
I was at Wal-Mart and I was looking for some new music cuz I was getting bored of the same old stuff and I was looking at all the album covers and I saw On Letting Go's cover and I thought... "Well this is very creative" so I plucked it off the shelf and took it home, listened to it and fell in love. At first i thought (being as stupid as I am) "This a woman singing" but I found out that it was the lead singer of Saosin which I had just gotten into. So thats awesome
Anthony Green created Saosin (pronounced Say Ocean), he made 1 album-Translating the Name. He left and made Circa Survive. Cove Reber now is the singer for Saosin (he pronounces it like i looks).
im not freaking out or anything or trying to sound like a smartass haha but i think the word you looking for in the one verse is pervade not prevade :]
Wow... I heard about this band from my cousin... And wow this isn't just any other band. Their music is soothing it sorta makes me wanna fall asleep. x3 This song is gonna be stuck in my head from a while now. :3 Thanks for making this video!
On letting go is a masterwork! Anthony Green is a God!
FreaksPKP 3 months ago
It totally does start out like a season in reverse.
CaptainTeemo1337 3 months ago
His Voice Is AMAZING.!
DinosEatRadCupCakes 4 months ago
This has to be one of the best songs ever. One of my new favorite bands, all of their songs are so damn amazing. <3
Ambr0IshDeApple 5 months ago
anthony green i love you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
7satan2 6 months ago
Would you trade your soul for gold?
JeanieKitts 6 months ago 3
I used to not like Circa, but now I can't help but have them grow on me
Silversun15 7 months ago
thats a guy?
MrJKMproductionz 8 months ago in playlist keepNtouchsoul4goldraTRACERS
Takes me to somewhere i've never been.
charmaster7 9 months ago
circa is exploding on the scene....i mean, like a year ago it wasn't like this
circasurvive777 9 months ago
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AMidnightFall 10 months ago
This song is fucking genius. Really attend to the lyrics.
xplainwhitetease 10 months ago
This song is so fucking awesome.
Danniel1397 11 months ago
1:21 is priceless :)
TheBadbowman 11 months ago
Thumbs up if you just saw ghost - harvard comments lololol
TheBadbowman 11 months ago
My love
kellzshmellz 11 months ago
circa survive is my therapy
chauncy424 11 months ago
this is currently my favorite song but it keeps changing around from circa song to circa song... but this one has lasted about 2 weeks hahaha... i love circa so much... listening to them is like traveling to a whole new amazing and beautiful universe. thank you anthony green for giving me something to dream of at night
iamthepromise 11 months ago
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deadindisguise 1 year ago
love the song!! thanks for taking the time to put up the lyrics! =)
dirtysailor49 1 year ago
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eyeAMthebaddest 1 year ago
@HappinessBreaksBones i was just tryna make sure lmao
eyeAMthebaddest 1 year ago
1:20 ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just listen to it
ragabanation 1 year ago
me and anthony green, living together <3 AH THE THOUGHT GETS ME HAAARRDDD, and i'm not even gay!
canthinkverywell 1 year ago
@canthinkverywell This made me laugh haha :)
Zairabear 1 year ago
@canthinkverywell no sir, you are indeed VERY gay.
Zombiemode1 10 months ago
@Zombiemode1 well i recently started thinking i might be a little bi. its not worth taking the time to think abt tho, it doesnt really matter if ur gay or straight as long as u have the capacity for love, man
canthinkverywell 10 months ago
ahahahah the tags
Ntzfl 1 year ago 11
Ohhhhhhhhh yea! Amazing song, thought it'd suck
TheBadbowman 1 year ago
circa SURVIVE LIVING TOGETHER :3
ilovemolly 1 year ago
anthony green is a god
MrSullyboy42 1 year ago
definitely fucking awesome
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gatjjadkaa 1 year ago
nice band
1Troubl3zLokz3 1 year ago
thanks! now i can sing along with the concert like everyone else!!!!! this is a great song!!!!
corizojoe 1 year ago
he sings like kellen from sleeping with sirens....i mean the same technique XD basicaly unique and ass kicking.
ilovemolly 1 year ago
@ilovemolly fuck no. don't ever fucking say that again.
6DanceTheNightAway6 1 year ago 3
@ilovemolly Kellen sounds much more like the same tone as Jag from A Skylit Drive singing with similar style to Jonny Craig from DGD, Emarosa, Jonny Craig, etc.
Anthony Green stands alone though. Even if a lot of people try to imitate him.
DNDelli 1 year ago
do you think hes using "optimistic, daring me" as an allusion to one of the original Saosin songs he wrote "The perched on their stilts pointing, and daring me to break custom..." oxford comma bitches.
MidwestArtist 1 year ago
love this song.. <3
TheA7XC3L 1 year ago
this has been my favorite Circa song since 2007 when on letting go came out. amazing band.
6DanceTheNightAway6 1 year ago
there is a different version of this song isn't there?
I was listening to the album and it was almost as if the song changed, I bought the album afew months ago and heard it played one way, and today I popped it in and it's like the album changed between then and now.
CaptainRon0001 1 year ago
Like if you think that Anthony Greem and Jonny Craig should make a band!
abiezer777 1 year ago
@abiezer777 whos jonny craig from dance gavin dance?
eyeAMthebaddest 1 year ago
i know you say you put alot of time into syncing the words but man you should have done some spellchecking lol
flounder2113 1 year ago
@Joelfan14 But i guess he just wants to copy and paste the lyrics or something. idk. just guessing.
AngelSlayer369 1 year ago
ive never heard of someone asking for the person to put em on the side loll i mean your reading the lyrics either way o_O
Joelfan14 1 year ago
is it too much to ask for you to put the lyrics on the side too?
i just dont feel like reading the screen. lol
justXgarr 2 years ago
The only thing I know is that this song is AWESOME.
abiezer777 2 years ago
Does anyone think he is talking about the creator of the universe in this song?
Drealist87 2 years ago 2
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Bahaha. I thought the lead singer was a girl, because I looked em up by lookin at Dance Gavin Dance comments. Lmfao, good music, but this guy has Justin Bieber syndrome.
KassyInuzukaNara 2 years ago
@KassyInuzukaNara
go die
busterPAULIE 2 years ago
@busterPAULIE
Go die because I enjoy their music? You're cool.
KassyInuzukaNara 2 years ago
@KassyInuzukaNara
Man I thought he was a girl for like 2 years. I was always like man cannot wait to see her. But then I found out he was a guy. Still amazing voice. And amazing and deep deep music. Loving this band. Circa fucking rocks. I have not heard anything close to them EVER.
Drealist87 2 years ago
@KassyInuzukaNara
oh i think they told you to die because of the justin bieber thing. yeah that was kinda lame dude
Drealist87 2 years ago
anthony green. need i say more?
eyedrops4cyclops 2 years ago 3
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The singing doode kinda sounds like a chick. no offense. its my favorite song. This reminds me offf paraamore. sadly paramore sux. circa survive rox tho
YukieXRawr 2 years ago
circa survive, great fucking band.
HOUSEofCRWTH 2 years ago 48
@HOUSEofCRWTH if you like Circa Survive, then PLEASE look up Saosin! :) saosin had Anothony Green in it. he's this singer from circa survive :) and he got kicked out of saosin which is why he made this band. but saosin has a new similar singer named Cove Reber :) look them up. anothony green did 7 of their songs
"seven years" "translating the name" (best song ever!) "3rd measurement in C" and a couple others :) they made an album called "translating the name" so buy it please! :)
benmoser11 9 months ago
@benmoser11
saosin sucks and is for emofaggots
OpenCasket19 9 months ago
@OpenCasket19 it's the same as circa survive bro. anthony green, same singer. all the sons i just said. just cuz you dont like screamo doesn't mean you can diss on people who do.
benmoser11 9 months ago
@benmoser11
its not the same, circa doesnt suck big dick
OpenCasket19 9 months ago
@benmoser11 Just so you know, Cove isn't in the band anymore. I think they got the guy from Tides of Man as their new frontman
Duffmannnnnn 9 months ago
@Duffmannnnnn yea i found that out like right after i posted this. pretty tragic. though kinda funny, Cove was in the band for seven years and anothony green made a song called "Seven Years" lol. and they all came together one time and made a video of them eating weird foods. i forget what it's called though. but that's kinda cool how they're all friends.
benmoser11 9 months ago
circa survive + heroin = bliss
countof3everybodyOD 2 years ago
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where can i get some dope mannNnn
RathskellarQuaff 2 years ago
haha
gfyt 2 years ago
Wootz to that!!!
shantiara12 2 years ago
This guy's got a great voice...totally unique
sweetpary 2 years ago 75
@sweetpary Anthony Green. His voice is rough, raw, and raspy. The perfect recipe for a very ugly voice. But Anthony somehow makes it work beautifully. Check out his album Avalon.
Jackifur 1 year ago
@sweetpary You should listen to John Gourley from Portugal. the Man.
JeanieKitts 6 months ago
@sweetpary dude, i thought it was a chick, for some reason during the beginning the way 'he' sounds it seems as though that 'he' was a 'she'
JackedUpCupcakesTV 5 months ago
This song is amazing as fuck<3
neabeann 2 years ago
Amazing song.
blakebellamy82 2 years ago
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blakebellamy82 2 years ago
one of there best song.. :) <3
Voiddreams 2 years ago
is anthony green .... dah!!
funtret12 2 years ago
Circa Survive is one of the greatest bands of our time. The stuff Anthony Green comes up with is so mind boggling!!! Circa Survive will take you to another world!!
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This completely sucks
ChuckNorrisDisciple 2 years ago
aww what a sore little vagina :)
booAHHHH 2 years ago
well ya are watcha eat, as they say
ChuckNorrisDisciple 2 years ago
so you eat STD infected vagina's? nice.
booAHHHH 2 years ago
lmfao
sibtonigt 2 years ago
yeah...like your moms
ChuckNorrisDisciple 2 years ago
at least you admit it. :)
booAHHHH 2 years ago 3
if you dont like the song then dont come here complaining fagget.chuck norris is a bitch like you.
stopthefcukingcar 2 years ago
i love this band so much!!! :D
XxScreamxX1 2 years ago
Attatched means identity
Erases things so how can we record?
<3
The way anthony sings that part is ah!
haha
marry me?
alandrastite 2 years ago
this song is super funzies to play on the guitar. <3 circa survive
SkyEatsHelicopter 2 years ago
<3!!!
sselimaa 2 years ago
i just love this band.......anthony green best vocals!!!!CIRCA SURVIVE the best band ever!!!EPIC ^^LEGENDARY!!!MAGNIFICENT!!!!
taemobulol 2 years ago 2
circa's in the studio right now working on their album!!! its gonna be sick yo
circonus5000 2 years ago
This song is amazing.
I've been listening to it nonstop for a few weeks xD
SqUiDLEh 2 years ago 2
this song is unfuckingbeleiveable
poooolshark420 2 years ago 5
this song is fucking sweet im drunk right now listening to it
-sean patterson
SeanSaosin 2 years ago
Anthony Green is in Circa...hes been. haha
JackTheRipper7 2 years ago
of course he is...
dtutwahaf 2 years ago
Circa survive are currently recording there third album out in 2009 :D cant wait!!
dtutwahaf 2 years ago 2
I KNOW! AND ONCE THE ALBUM IS OUT I WANNA SEE THEM IN CONCERT PROMOTING THE NEW CD <333 lol omg seriously these guys are amazing, i'll do almsot anything for them. The lyrics and beats are beautiful. ima pre-order the cd once its availible.
QWERTYUIPMNJKIP 2 years ago
wtf anthony isnt in circa
dlcjr2005 2 years ago
lol???
SuperiorSwagon1 2 years ago
I would cry if Circa ever broke up.
:D
itakun94 2 years ago 8
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actually, they did break up. look up anthony green, it's his new project. also "the sound of animals fighting" which is anthony green and craig owens of chiodos
shatteredsilence171 2 years ago
nah brah.
SOAF and his other solo stuff is a side project entirely.
itakun94 2 years ago 3
your an idiot, that doesnt mean theyre broken up.
VincePaska 2 years ago
Dood. That doesn't mean they're broken up.
Look at Craig Owens - He's in Chiodos and Cinematic Sunrise ... and, if I'm not mistaken, The Sound of Animals Fighting, too.
I'm not big on SOAF, so I'm not sure on that, but still - You're wrong lol.
bryarbryarbryar 2 years ago
Yo dudes, can anyone tell me other good circa survive songs as im new to them . thanx like older stuff i mean.
Quagmyre0123 2 years ago 2
The Greatest Lie, Holding Someone's Hari Back, Kicking Your Crosses Down, The Difference Between Medicine and Poison is in the Dose, In Fear and Faith.
MarquisDeKyle 2 years ago 3
Holding Someone's Hair* Back. lol
MarquisDeKyle 2 years ago
listen every track on both albums. They are raw and unique as fuck. definetely one of my favorite bands. best songs include stop the fuckin car, in fear and faith, the greatest lie, this song, act appalled. Anthony sings about different level type shit plus kick ass drums, dope guitar.
alexw 2 years ago 4
The one other song i really like is The Difference Between Medicine and Poison is in the Dose.... hope you find the songs your lookin for :)
vivalajuicy16 2 years ago 2
well to inform u they are broken up anthony does a solo sooo yea an both ppl r right just all the songs are great in other words lol
dlcjr2005 2 years ago
just listen to all of juturna, i think its one of the best complete albums ever created
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Juturna isn't as good as On Letting Go. Juturna, imo, is reverbed guitars with Anthony Green trying to steal the light from everyone. On Letting Go, the guitars and vocals go together better, and it's just a better album. That, and Green's vocals are very whiny/shit on In Fear And Faith.
LemonZeppelin 2 years ago
fuck no! Juturna was way better than on letting go.
nuff said.
StraightGruesome 2 years ago
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I agree.
Although, On Letting Go is still pretty good.
I just prefer Juturna and I started off listening to On Letting Go.
seniortac0 2 years ago
LMFAO the Tags on this vid..
Quagmyre0123 2 years ago 3
HAHAHAA, lol
I didnt notice that XD
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is this a girl singin? it sounds like girl singin.. haha cant tell the difference coz he's screaming...
mikeshinoda101 3 years ago
its a dude.
SHocknitro10332 3 years ago 4
Indeed it's a dude. The name's Anthony Green. He's known for this type of singing.
ninjalord2222 2 years ago 4
maybe it's about religion beign a catalyst for mankind to use the dualism of war as a means of evolving evough to remove himself from the planet before a asteroid killsus all. it goes away, we go away, then we're over the word people use in this dualistic society. so then, on letting go, which you have to do to become enlightened, consider the meaning of war.
crose19692008 3 years ago
the intro is awesome
Tragic2 3 years ago 12
I dont understand this song but i want know what its about.... i love it and i think i love it more because i dont fully understand it yet.... anyone wanna help tell me what they think?
smartass6392 3 years ago 2
I am probably one of the few who actually listened to circa before saosin, they are both amazing bands, with amazing musicians, most people who dont do any research dont know if its anthony or cove singing in saosin, thats how good they both are. If you want a treat find the vid of both singing together.
nextgenfighter1 3 years ago
it obvious who is singing in saosin man. not that close at all. green is waay better.
FlowFighter21 3 years ago 3
I luff Circa Survive ^^
MitchxAtexThexSky 3 years ago
yo cuz THE BEST
douche145 3 years ago
circa survive i luv u =]
xzerox300 3 years ago
This song is the best!
Carlos0180 3 years ago
philly bands kick ass. love this band.
dovegirl23 3 years ago
they really do. and equal vision records bands
thesenatormatt 3 years ago
Song pwns.
thxxxx.
JoanLPS2 3 years ago 3
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such an incredible song
joshatlanticism 3 years ago 4
omg.....love them so much...so kickass...have this as my ringtone!
distress call codeword is I WANT TO LIVE!!
yourworkoffiction 3 years ago
Me too!
love iiit.
elkjerkeez 3 years ago
u spelled taste wrong
angelhappysa 3 years ago
audio preview is weird
k3n4olk 3 years ago 2
every song on this cd is hot... undeniable
k3n4olk 3 years ago
fav band <3 lyrics are wonderful, drumming wonderful, vocals <3, creativity <3
RiPuShKa 3 years ago
I love the drumming in all their songs.
Its very technical, and complex.
:D
thesearevideos152 3 years ago
and he doesn't go overboard with it either
macmikeny 3 years ago
I really like this song. It's awesome.
clandestine73647 3 years ago
I was at Wal-Mart and I was looking for some new music cuz I was getting bored of the same old stuff and I was looking at all the album covers and I saw On Letting Go's cover and I thought... "Well this is very creative" so I plucked it off the shelf and took it home, listened to it and fell in love. At first i thought (being as stupid as I am) "This a woman singing" but I found out that it was the lead singer of Saosin which I had just gotten into. So thats awesome
mudjunky78 3 years ago 2
bahhh!! that would be so sick if there was a band out there as musicaly creative as circa survive with a unique female vocalist!!!
eXotiCsPAceMoNKeys 3 years ago
there are...
spojmonkey 3 years ago
what bands?
i've only heard of a few but none of them compare to circa survive
eXotiCsPAceMoNKeys 3 years ago
hahah....funny...but imagine...if there WERE a female vocalist....like...wow...find me a chick who can measure up, and i'll applaud her....
yourworkoffiction 3 years ago
Thank god he left Saosin. Circa's music is a million times more complex than the mundane shit that cove does at saosin now..
moxillen 3 years ago 2
amen to that.
jennarara 3 years ago
:)
Thx!
moxillen 3 years ago 2
Anthony Green was the lead singer for saosin then he went off and made Circa Survive. so Saosin was first.
birchiecb 3 years ago
This song is amazing. I love it!
clandestine73647 3 years ago
dude saosin sucks ARSE
luishomeroremohsiul 3 years ago
Did Saosin come before or after Circa Survive? I'm a bit confused because he sounds more mature with Saosin
XxdarkxfirexX 3 years ago
im pretty positive saosin was before circa survive.
booAHHHH 3 years ago
Saosin did come before circa. Anthony was vocals in saosin, then made Anthony made Circa Survve after he left Saosin. And now Cove sings in Saosin
megancupcakeee 3 years ago
Anthony Green created Saosin (pronounced Say Ocean), he made 1 album-Translating the Name. He left and made Circa Survive. Cove Reber now is the singer for Saosin (he pronounces it like i looks).
Mumbles828 3 years ago
I really LOVED Saosin!!!
But... Im not sure if i love Circa Survive as much. Is it me?
GingaNinjaOLLY 3 years ago
saosin first, he's out of saosin now.
agolden29 3 years ago
the song is good but i dnt understand the lyrics culd someone please explain
XxxKRAV3NxxX 3 years ago
its about some guy whose tryin to fit in by faking and all you need to get in is to be yourself
Evolblast 3 years ago
im not freaking out or anything or trying to sound like a smartass haha but i think the word you looking for in the one verse is pervade not prevade :]
risexofxnick 3 years ago
*tears*
booAHHHH 3 years ago
you know though this band suits him well,their music is different i'm kinda leaning away from saosin now.
BaileeLoren1l1l1l1 3 years ago
I LOVE EVERYSONG ON THIS ALBUM!!!
paramoretotallyrox 3 years ago
GOOD FUCKIN SONG!!!
Cityignites31 3 years ago
eh
he shouldnt have left saosin.
irinabby 3 years ago
i completely agree.
BaileeLoren1l1l1l1 3 years ago
wow.his voice is truly amazingggggggggg oh my gosh.
BaileeLoren1l1l1l1 3 years ago 3
i really liked the band saosin but circa survive is a whole new level
icantbelieveijoined 3 years ago 3
Perfect.
zkoaz 3 years ago 3
Wow... I heard about this band from my cousin... And wow this isn't just any other band. Their music is soothing it sorta makes me wanna fall asleep. x3 This song is gonna be stuck in my head from a while now. :3 Thanks for making this video!
walkinwolf801 3 years ago