Europe energy highlights reliance on Russia - 31 Aug 2008

[Yetizrach]

Tell me if Russia EVER gived freedom to ANY country in the WORLD? :-)

[Magister50]

@Yetizrach Mein Gott! Russia gave FREEDOM for your Poland and another countries in Europe 1945. Russia Saved!!! your land! Go to school and learn history! and English

[Yetizrach]

@Magister50

Do you know what is freedom? Russia saved us (!) from nazis, that's true, but Russia never gave freedom to Poland.

[Magister50]

@Yetizrach As Ex-officer of Bundeswehr I would like to say, freedom is not to be occupationaly by enemy countries. But you will teach me, freedom is something more. Could be. But look: Gremany (by the way the bigest giver of money in EU) gives Poland (bigest taker) money to bay russians oil and gas Sorry, It is not realy freedom.

[KotAndaluzyjski]

@Magister50 Money from the EU budget is being used for infrstructural investments and other developement programs, agriculture, etc. Don't worry, it isn't spend on Russian oil! :)

Europe needs more diversified sources of gas and oil, regardles

[hitlerkaput1981]

stupid one sided propaganda

[GGXzxz]

Сушите гусей, все ровно прошло, нечего тут кулаками после драки махать

[aviomaster]

Icarcus --- HOW many people  USA killed ?

[artiomshev]

the problem with british is that they are an american faggot

[yarrn88]

where your sanctions now EU??

[artur2277]

estonia doestn relay on russian gas so much. natural gas is used so less in estonia and if russia will cut the pipe line with estonia then estonia can have gas from the reserv gas what can be used for 1-2 years in estonia

[14Srb88]

Russia,let the fuckers freeze....

[morphicwraith]

To be honest, I can't understand why people seem to think Russia have lost all power completely since the Cold war - they haven't. Communism lost it's place, hence the reason Russia is now a democracy. It still has great military power, and did then, the US is now dependant on the east for their economy. I been watching some documentaries, and voiced over by British and Americans, they seem to biased towards the US being high and mighty its hilarious lol.

[88durham]

i dont think britian has a issue with the russians

[GregorMar]

Democracy in Russian? My dear friend they don't know what democracy is...

[Zukhov1945]

@GregorMar Russia and democracy cannot sustain if not in a communist regime :). There was a lot more democracy during 70s USSR than now.

[GregorMar]

@Zukhov1945 Hmmm... Democracy in Russia :-)))) Russians just don't like democracy it is not for Russians. they needs someone like tsar or Stalin or Putin, then they feel alive when someone in this type is ruling on Kremlin. :-) And everything is OK if they doing this only in Russia, but they always spreading their rules around, and this is the worst... :-/

[ESTboy15]

3 former sovian countries???

wtf these are Estonia,Latvia and Lithuania

not some russian lands or something like that...

We are free countries now you moron

[johalz]

est boy15 ......former means previously....which means in past not now.......so he said 3 countries which were part of soviet union........he is rite!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tsilll]

sellepärast ta ütleski et' ENDISED nõukogude riigid, sest nüüd on vabad riigid

[yarrn88]

I guess Zadornov was right when he said Baltic education degraded after their "independance" from USSR

[KeragHustar]

He was...=( thank god i still managed to get a good russian education... during last 5 years they have done a lot of changes in education system...it became awfull

[TheMurderProductions]

@ESTboy15 u werent even countries before 1991 wen the Soviet Union fell

[SBuzdy]

EU will subdue Russia by economic strength...with every year new pipelines are built from other providers around the caspian sea.Russia will soon loose any advantage it has

[tennisace12345]

Do you watch the news? If you did, then you would know that alternatives to russian gas have been pretty much scrapped. Instead, Turkey has agreed to build a Russian pipeline that goes through its territory so that it bypasses Ukraine. Therefore, when it is completed, there would be no mare gas shortages because Ukraine would not be the main country through which the gas is channeled through. So long with subdueing Russia with economic strength. The EU cannot afford spending that much money!

[mihabushi]

It is your own problem. It depends on your policy!

[Qartveli84]

fuck barbarian russians. fuck nazis.

[zaksranez]

Fuck you stupid jew's whore

[SovietMight]

go comades

[damme009]

Russia 4 ever!!!!!!!

[paulmanser]

Fuck Russia. They are nothing but short of pure evil.

[galkakur]

heh we dont need any europe country. may be only ukraine back. Nothing else... EUROPE to strangle from small country.

[norway00999]

Europe needs a fuck some times

Well good Russia

[nyccarini]

i agree, go russia

[legoszormeny]

fuck the slavic burn in hell

we should conquer and kill them again.

[tirpitz19]

I hope this was a good lesson for the Europeans and stop trusting those russian human pigs.

[dragonissimo]

he forgot SLOVAKIA

:)

[Runazarag]

nope its showed in the map

[filosofia08uk]

In view of the unacceptable situation shown in this video, the latest agreement by the EU member states on targets for renewable energy production is very welcome. See my blog, the url is on my channel.

[Killazer]

Russia could have leveled Tbilisi and everything else in Georgia and NATO wouldnt have done a thing. NATO is not going to protect you if you are on Russias border and make stupid moves or threats to Russia. Russia already went through that mistake by working with Hitler until he invaded the soviet union. This time Russia will invade first if NATO continues on its current suicidal path.

[DrKillaser]

@Killazer xD......finally i found someone with a nickname close to mine.. :D

[longsweep1]

@Killazer

Dude I've been to Russia 2 times, and I have nothing but good words for Russia.I think Russia and the West will work together in the first coming decades.And believe me there is not a single European (I'm from Europe) who hates a Russian or Russia on its own, a very very beautiful country.But the NATO is neccesary, look at those monks in Afghanistan, Russia and the West have almost the same problems, so why would'nt we bring our forces together to punch some radical islamic group?

[HerrMoppel]

I can't understand why are Russians selling SO MUCH oil. Russia is a extremely cold country and future generations of Russian people will need that oil. Now, Russians are getting virtually nothing in return for their oil and gas: who needs dollars? Dollars do not have any value.

[ApproachWithCaution]

Fuck Russia and fuck the US. If you both destroyed each other the rest of us can get on with living in peace and making this world a better place.

[supremerat]

what about china and india?

[polygamous1]

that is BS if the Russians wanted to blow the pipe up that pipe would not have existed now maybe they wanted to tell the georgians NEXT TIME WE WILL colladeral damage after all colladeral damage has so far cost 1.2Million iraqi lives what's a pipe line next to that? the neocons/zionist alliance have a problem now as americans are at long last waking up as to who is really responsible for american demogracy/economy almost colapse Yanks are naive n misinformed they NOT stubid n love their country

[polygamous1]

i really think is time Russia stopped gas n oil supply to bulgaria rumania n poland for starters i am SURE Russian nuke will have to be used to defens Russia from a total encirculment by us nukes i really believe they have no choice the main reason for the georgian attack n the resupplying of the georgian military by us start many fronts against Russia well maybe BUT nukes will have to fly at us military basses if not Russia n the world will be salves to the NWO

[aviomaster]

EXPENSIVE oil from RUSSIA .. I have heard RUSSIA  is selling it cheaper so they can have more costumers ...

[aviomaster]

AT least RUSSIAN oil is not bloody ... LIKE USA OIL ,invasion of IRAQ ,,, where 700.000 people were killed and 3.9 million IRAQI refugees .. AFGANISTAN 100.000 civilians were killed .. RUSSIAN OIL .. not bloody at least ..

[unurautare]

not bloody but expensive :D that is why ukrainians stole oil and gaz :))))

[Icarcus]

@aviomaster

you know how many people russians have killed, for not supporting them? 8 mil.

you know they have deported millions of people, to work till death, build for them ?

just 20 years ago.

MILLIONSSSSSSS

and what ? nothing.

US send a couple troops to fight freedom, and its the worst crime in the world...

[AndresMAGEdudeOK]

@Icarcus 20 Years ago USSR collapsed.. idiot!

[Zukhov1945]

@Icarcus How much fucking coca cola did you drink? You're completely under the influence of propaganda and lost control of your mind. Congrats.

[Icarcus]

@Zukhov1945

I only had a glass of crush at a poker game, the only junk taken into my body for many many years.

Im not saying USSR was not good for russia, what is fact is that Russia made use of many countries around it to build, with out them nothing would have hapened; Germany wiped out around 18 million jews from the whole planet, Russia wiped out around 8 million from just one country. Including my relatives.

[Icarcus]

@Zukhov1945

The past is the past, but it should be recognized not berried. Fact, half of the soldiers at Berlin invasion were NOT Russian, but taken from the other countries of the soviet union. Fact, the french president stated shortly after being rescued by usa, that he wished his army was as the Ukrainian patriotic army that fought against Germany and Russia at two fronts. Chornobyl powerplant, wheat exports to hitler, t34 factories. Millions of people taken to sibir to mine untill death.

[Icarcus]

@Zukhov1945

Every country bordering Russia is pissed off at everything they did, some places in the south, if youre a Russian tourist, the mod finds out, murders you in your hotel. Russia is the only country denying everything that they did, it is their word versus the rest of the world. Fine, deny it, but stop sticking your nose into everyone elses home, making even a bigger mess; instead it would be more logical to clean the mess in your own country, correct? Rise to the top, not fall...

[Gamorri]

Theres no reason for russia to attack this pipeline, but if I would be Saakashvili I would destroy it to get help from europe.

[DomDaDJ]

US people are steorotype not only towards Russia.And if we take a look on the hollywood movies,Russians r always the bad character I mean even in PC games. Fuck that.I myself am not Russian.But I say they are very friendly people easy to get along with. Not like the US faggat.

And well,Russian girls are much better than the US chicks.

[megamarsvin]

I think you're doing the same thing in reverse..

I don't trust US government (evil Bush) or Russian government (evil Putin) but most of the Russian and American people are good people. I wish only that the people could replace these evil leaders with trustworthy people.

[dshepkin]

I dont think you can compare bush and putin in the same sentence, or even at all. All bush has done was ruin the economy and start wars and make US-russia relations worse than during the cold war. Putin however did the opposite, he strengthened economy: paid off all foreign debt, raised national reserve to almost $1 trillion, etc. He also ended war in chechnya and rebuilt chechnya. He has done everything to have good US relations but US is puting rockets in poland.

[megamarsvin]

But it's never that simple is it? If you ask an American "patriot" he will say the same thing in reverse, he will say Bush is only protecting his own people. The weapons being installed are defensive, not nuclear missiles, so if Putin doesn't want war, what's the problem?

Economically Putin is maybe more capable but then the result is the same in Russia as it is in the US, the rich are getting mega rich and poor people are still poor.

[dshepkin]

Wow, you are so blind, and you are comparing cucumbers with strawberries. How is bush protecting his people, do they live in Europe? AS for putin, he proposed cooperative missile site in azerbaijan, a site that already exists, why bush deny? AS for defensive weapons being installed, nobody knows for sure, and its only a step away from attacking weapons, not hard to achieve. AS for poor in russia, have you been there? I just came from there and even in small towns people have money.

[megamarsvin]

Russia can launch a missile at the US from across the world so obviously you can not defend yourself staying inside your own borders. Pretty straightforward but you're smart enough to know that already.

If you're trying to suggest that Putin is not corrupt, well excuse me for laughing at that idea. One of his friends just bought the Belgian royal palace with the Russian people's oil money.

Trust me I don't like Bush but Putin is just as bad. Maybe even worse because Putin is smarter.

[dshepkin]

Ok, why would russia attack US? BUt think about US, it went into korea, vietnam, gulf, kosovo, iraq, and now afganistan. I think russia need to put missiles next to america, oh wait, remember the cuban missile crisis in 1960s, america did not like that, now isn't that called a double standard? AS for corrupt putin, how is buying a palace on par with lying to a whole nation so that the US army can go into iraq HUH, HUH? So please, if u hate russia, dont exaggerate the bad and not mention the good

[DrKillaser]

@megamarsvin if his friend bought a palace...so his friend is currupted, not him self

[megamarsvin]

@DrKillaser Oh so he was not corrupt, he was just blind to his friends stealing from the Russian people?

[michael2B]

A great graphic method of telling the USA to

BACKOFF

[manwiththecalicobag]

and only a fool would try

[rkebic]

"...a line of craters more than a kilometer long...within metres of the pipeline"

Yes, I would definitely call that a message!

[johnh23]

For sure , .... they can do the same near our homes.

[rusgof]

Guys, anybody in Russia does not want war, and what disagreements... Georgia it simply jumping-off place of America for an attack to Iran, that's all. If this attack happens, was much worse. Those who condemn Russia, simply do not understand in what all business!

Translation electronic :)))

[hlRsiempre]

those were replys to the first five comments, i clicked the trees.. unfortunately i think the item bears great interest as it is the point when someone (russia) finally voices a dedicated no, to nato agression. A historical turning point for good, foregood, or bad.

[hlRsiempre]

muslim nations actually haven't so much recognised kossovo as they aplaud the thought itself.(of independent muslim minoritys.. basically an usian cookie for the muslims that has a bitter taste in europe, well only if u are very sincere.. the unusual type of european.

[hlRsiempre]

it is not about power in the kaukasus but about geopolitical security of russia proper.

Russia just put a halt to the infringement on their territory and ongoing campaign against there safety. let's be thankfull, a war with russia would certainly devastate 1000billions of euros and millions of human lives. Even if by miracle it would not turn nucleair.

[hlRsiempre]

this one is my initial seperate comment. apparently a youtube bug when u first comment with teh comment button it takes the rests as comments not on the tree.

[gearoidgaa]

I am a European citizen and it is time for Europe to get balls and stand up for itself. it wont do anything to Russia because it needs it oil and gas. Europe was getting oil and gas from the soviet union which wanted to replace Democracy with communism.

[hlRsiempre]

well we do get it cus they are to humane and have been to humane to freeze us, i think we should start a new international relation based on friendship and cooperation instead of fear and hate (antagonism).

[KARStarla]

I thought communism fell, just not all the way? lol

[KARStarla]

I dont get it, if Europe is concerned about its reliance on Russia for oil, why not get their oil from Iraq or Iran? Both wanted to sell oil using the Euro standard and they would make more.

Chavez has offered American citizens (not Bush) but them to sell us oil at HALF the price we are paying now.

Thats GREAT!

that work?

Wont that make everyone happy? Or is this a big power trip sorta deal? Where they get oil and sit on it to charge more on artificially created restrictions?

[hlRsiempre]

cus russia is cheaper and trying to buy our friendship with that show of economical supplicance.

[GuyInvincible111]

Great vid

[PauloGVieira]

Russia has about 10 years left, by 2015 the energy supplies of Western Europe would largely be met by renewable sources. Portugal and the Scandinavian states already get almost 1/3 of their energy from within.

[DocumentaryDude]

all white people need to ethnic cleanse themselves!!!!!! click the thumbs up, if u know whats up!!

[pauperdom]

i think you are in need of full castration my imbecile DocumentaryDude friend!

[PauloGVieira]

Idiot. And I would suggest castrating you to make sure you do not procreate.

[ProcyonAlpha]

Fail.

[Tupiii89]

We must stop this energy dependence! We must build more nuclear power and renewable ones also!

[timetofly5]

is it not Russia gas? why was dick Cheney's boy in Georgia before start their aggression? there is something very fishy about this whole confrontation

[somethingawful01]

The idiots in the EU need to stop acting like the US cares about them and start being Europeans. The EU needs to integrate Russia so counter US aggression and to be a real power. But those morons in Brussels would rather pretend they're a super power rather than be one.

Fools all of them.

[PauloGVieira]

You idiot you do realise that for the last few years there has been a special coordinating body established to bring the two together.

[somethingawful01]

Europe should impose sanctions on Russia and they should do it in the middle of winter so they hurt the Russians the most and prevent them from selling their gas to the EU. It will really hurt the Russians a lot, especially when Europe all of a sudden don't have any gas for heating. It would be glorious and bring the Russians finally to their kness! Down with those Russians, impose sanctions now. After all Russia couldn't possibly sell their gas to Japan, China or elsewhere.

[immortal117]

Very good point that is often overlooked.

[PauloGVieira]

Sanctions dont work. They never have.

[EyesoreII]

Sanctions worked against South Africa though. I understand your point (they certainly didn't work against Iraq, Cuba etc) but I'd like you to propose an argument for when sanctions work and when they don't.

[studio7manga]

I'm butting into the conversation but I'd say they only work when the international community actively engages the country in diplomatic talks and proposes reasonable ways to end the sanctions. Like what happened with Libya, and is sorta maybe starting to happen with N Korea.

[PauloGVieira]

Exactly, on their own they're absolutely ineffective and target the wrong people. Sanctions are not a solution but rather part of a larger diplomatic response that actively engages both sides.

[citizenX9328g]

Could it work like this - Russia imposes sanctions,the affected countries then keep their own gas for themselves and stop selling it cheaply to the evil empire of the U.K?

The U.K then starts waking-up?

We have an uprising and we turf out our hideous government

[citizenX9328g]

lol I apologise if I'm a fantasising optimist...

I simply don't have the words to describe how dreadful it has felt to be a resident of the U.K for the last ten years or more!

[neyack2]

Bah, the people of the U.K. are a generally apathetic lot, if an uprising ever occurred it would either be so lacklustre that the nation fell apart or worse it would be mostly BNP headed.

[citizenX9328g]

lol,it breaks my heart to say,you're absolutely right!

Where shall I go to live if I wanna be Boudicca?

[citizenX9328g]

Oh,whoops,stupid question I gotta stay here cos I need to defeat the U.K gov :-)

[citizenX9328g]

Russia is the one who needs to introduce sanctions imho,someone has to bring the rogue governments under control

[citizenX9328g]

Correct me if I'm wrong,but since privatisation,I think the U.K gets much of it's gas from European countries,so,if Russia was to impose sanctions,then perhaps it's not so infeasible to assume the U.K will feel some discomfort...

I'm simply longing for something big enough to happen which will stir the people here out of their apathy

It's so damn frustrating how no-one cares about anyone except themselves

[neyack2]

If its any conciliation, I care about others and have strived to drag my self out of apathy. I'm sure a few other people do to, it's just hard to find them.

[ggerrtc]

To dswynne

Yes, to dream not harmful, Tesla to you will help with your dreams...

[ggerrtc]

Вот это ближе к теме. А то санкции, санкции. Самая главная санкция, газ для европы, я смеюсь над санкциями в отношении России

It is closer to a theme. And that sanctions, sanctions. The most important sanction, gas for Europe, I laugh at sanctions concerning Russia

[ArtypNk]

As for sanctions, common, go ahead. Sure, Russia will feel some pain, but Europe will feel it much more. We can sell more resources to China and India.

[ArtypNk]

Oh common now!!! Russians wanted to bomb pipeline, and somehow they mysteriously missed? Russia is not some king of african 3d world country. They have hight precision bombs and tons of aircraft. If they would want that pipe gone, it would be gone. This is obviously staged.

[dswynne]

The only way for Europe to not be dependent on Russian energy is to push hard for energy alternatives. That includes nuclear (sorry, Greens), solar, hydro, ethenol, and so forth. If that happens, then Russia will be less significant. In fact, why is it that the bulk of the oil and natural gas reserves are in areas that are less to non-democratic? Sheesh.

[Xakryn]

about 16% of the worlds energy comes from nuclear power, and even with that small amount we'll exhaust our uranium supply in 85 years. logically if you tripled it to 48%, our supply would last 28 years. Thats why nuclear isn't being taken seriously by a lot of energy suppliers.

[dswynne]

I thought the reason for nuclear power being on the decline is due to environmental lobbying and over-regulation? But anyway, what, in your opinion, do you see as a viable energy solution that is both near-limitless and competitive in the energy markets? Short of a Tesla device, I can't think of any alternatives.

[mengwise36]

solar, tidal, wind. Nature's enery is near limitless.

[mengwise36]

Because when it is non-democratic, it is easier for US and its allies to control. And if any resource rich country should turn democratic, the US and its allies will see to it that the elected lead assassinated and a dictator put in place.

[dswynne]

Maybe in the old days, but in this day and age, where information is rapid and near-instantaneous, advocating assassinations and installing a dictator is neither feasible nor desirable. It can't possible done now, but the leftest are certainly willing to use an old play book of "American imperialism" for domestic consumption, even when not true any more.

[mengwise36]

You have to explain to me how it can't possibly be done now. Do you mean there is no one left to assassinate?

[dswynne]

No, what I'm saying that it would be difficult to pull it off, which why the US would simply bribe countries with trade deals and weapons instead.

[mengwise36]

You should read the book titled "The Confession of a Economic Hit Man". The way we do things since the 50's has been: send in the Economic Hit Man to set up trade deals and loans so they would owe US/World Bank forever. If they do not take the deal, if the leader dare to defy US, then assassination. When that fails, military invasion. It is the 1-2-3 punch.

[dswynne]

I think I'm familiar with the author.

[Djole2006]

You wanted capitalism? You got it! If you can find the product at a cheaper price go buy it, if you can't you will buy at the price the seller set's it...

[Bluewhale1010]

russia is terroristic country. kill russians.

[Xakryn]

Canada is a socialist country, we have more in common with the Russian empire than the American empire. I'm ashamed to share a country with you. Don't paint an entire people with one brush.

[dswynne]

Neither the US nor Russia is an empire. The US is a hegemony (since there aren't any land or person is being 'controlled'), and Russia is a regional power.

[Stavropol73]

Russian position is very simple, you have to pay a market price for oil and gas. Exceptions from this rule are made for friendly states like Armenia or Belorussia.

Let US, NATO and EU pay Ukrainian energy bills to show true commitment to this country.

[Chromegrillz]

Its not russia who is the enemy.

[WimmyRoad]

Fuck the EU! Let the Russians control the scene for a bit.

[crrrlol]

hell yeah Soviets are coming back. watch out EU and USA

[dswynne]

You mean watch out EU, b/c the USA will continue what IT wants to do.

[tombstonetom]

Energy idependance may come from europe because of an unstable russian, instead of the US because of an unstable middle east.