your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
@DerNoziroh I never said I was christian. thank you for showing your gifted intellectual skills, you can't even decipher a few short paragraphs on my page no less the cosmos!
this is why I use the word nigger to describe guys like mike.it may be wrong but racism was pounded into my head as a child so since the word is there in my head I'll apply it by definition.exept for black guys they are exempt
I think that aliens told us to write all these scientific facts down, we took the facts and twisted them a bit, called the aliens "gods" and started religion as you know it today. The ONE is beyound religion and knowledge, it is infinite and all attributes and no attributes. It is the ineffable. It is the source, and the end. I am that I am and shall be that I shall be. God is and always was.
I respected your beliefs when I was having a back and forth with you earlier, but this statement is asinine. If they don't believe what I do they must be unhappy.
It doesn't matter if you truly believe that atheism is for the unhappy. I am an atheist. I am not unhappy. It doesn't make me unhappy to not believe in a higher power or miracles, etc. And I'm sure there's more than just me who are atheists and happy. Also happiness doesn't have any bearing what-so-ever on if something is true or not. I know you didn't bring that up, but I'm just throwing that out there.
@thanksforthemessdick your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
@truthseeker010101 Sorry, but why are you defining atheism in such a non adult way? It sounds foolish to assume people who disagree with you are foolish, childish, and are full of hate. And it's cheap, and self deceiving.
Come visit England, everyone here is atheist and the majority of people (Well, depending on where you visit) are very nice.
And by the way, if you call atheists "ignorant, foolish, childish and filled with hate" then no wonder they are being horrible to you. You sound like an utter cunt, and atheist or not, call me those things to my face and I would punch you in yours.
@DanteDeshar It was just an exaggeration to emphasise the point that out of the hundreds of English people I have met very few of them identify with a religion. Recent polls also back up this anecdotal evidence.
I would hope no one genuinely thought I was trying to claim every single person in England was atheists. But if anyone did, I apologise, and would like to confirm there are actually theists in England.
65% of people say they are not religious (I don't know if you are from England, but many people are baptised/married in churches. Me and my parents have been baptised and confirmed, my mother always puts down she is part of a religion even though she doesn't believe in god) cont...
@DanteDeshar I would love a logical scientific world without emotions swaying truth, or authority. I don't recognize ethos or pathos as valid arguments in any area, I choice logos.
@DanteDeshar Backed up with the fact that people under 18 adopt their parents religion, and the 2001 poll showed 70% of people identified as Christian, as opposed to 53% now). Although people sometimes give up their religion later in life, the rapid decline likely comes from the younger generation, which are the people I am more likely to have met.
@DanteDeshar On the topic of identifying with a religion but not believing, in Britain the faith based schools consistently perform as some of the best schools in the country, but obviously require the parent and child to be of that faith for them to attend. This also skews the polls in favour of identifying with a religion.
@truthseeker010101 Just addressing your 99% of Athiests comment. If there are acceptions to the rule then why do you group the nice few with the nasty group. You also stated 'Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate.' which means you're saying those nice Athiests you spoke to are 'the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate.' which is the opposite to nice. So which of your two statements is true?
@DanteDeshar both , people use there beliefs as a reason to be crap to one another. I still think most atheists choice it because there life sucks in some way and it shows itself in there attitude towards life, and not some science they found. Science is just there crutch, and in the same way there are plenty of ignorant religious people who never read there own scripture and just choice there beliefs because of there regions culture.
@Mollifier16616111 Who said that? not me! My mother turned to the church and dogma right before she killed herself, she wasn't happy with all her baptist dogma, it didnt bring aby comfort to her, it was llike turning to santa or the easter bunny for meaning in life.
Atheist's know there is a cause. They don't know how or what it is in science but who cares, everyone knows there is a infinite cause to there finite existence. You being her conscience and observing me say this is more then enough proof logically.
Creation is not a science, and before you go telling me it's a conspiracy and you creationists are victims, you can believe in god and still accept evolution. It does not diminish your belief system to do so. Many scientists worth their salt who accept evolution are theists! When you pick and choose certain sciences that you just don't want to believe are accurate over all the other things that you take for granted you make yourselves look foolish.
This is where i disagree with people who ask me why can't i just let people believe what they want and leave them alone...because it's detrimental to our SOCIETY, when you interfere with human rights, or education, separation of church and state then you make it my business...you want to teach kids that the world is 6000 years old YOU have made it My business. This is not a trivial error when you have the evidence there staring you in the face that the earth is 4.5 billion years old
The age of the Earth is irrelevant to whether or not there's A god... technically, yes, but the fact that the Earth is four orders of magnitude older than the Bible states means that the Bible is WRONG, which IS relevant to whether or not it was inspired by THAT particular god.
There are limitations on what we can say about the chronology of the creation myth in the Book of Genesis. Essentially, the narrative does not explicitly define the meaning of 'day' as a period of 24 hours. This has been a problem identified by theologians and is the reason why there is sharp conflict between Young Earth and Old Earth creationists. Another difficulty for scholars is that no original manuscripts of the Pentateuch have been preserved over time for translation.
@truthseeker010101 Nothing is greater than infinity. Also, infinity is merely a mathematical variable used in theoretical formulas. That variable symbolizes a number that no other number can be greater than.
@fatouche99 Exactly, so it is illogical to ask that "a variable that symbolizes a number that no other number can be greater than" should create "a variable that symbolizes a number that no other number can be greater than. ". Like deviding by zero, the answer is nulled out by the fact the question is illogical.
@truthseeker010101 Yes, that's true but some of our concepts are more concrete than others. There are five fingers on the human hand. We can see them and count them. However, infinity is a variable we take on faith. So is gravity. Although we know it exists and we can measure it, it's cause is unknown. Even so, we put the variable "g" in our formulas non-the-less. So far it has worked pretty well. I'll try and sound less moronic next time.
@fatouche99 "However, infinity is a variable we take on faith. So is gravity. Although we know it exists and we can measure it, it's cause is unknown."
We can only see its affect, there can be no cause for infinity.
@truthseeker010101 No knowable cause because we don't understand it's origins. However, since our wealth of knowledge has grown so vast just over the last hundred years, there's no reason not to think that with more knowledge we might know it's cause. In science, it is usually smart to reserve judgement about the unknown.
@truthseeker010101 I guess you have the same certainty that Hindus, Muslims and every over religion has. It doesn't really matter because I'm okay living with uncertainty. That's part of the human condition. And besides, it will take more than you saying I know to convince me. I require evidence.
@fatouche99 I am not of any religious sect. I was once a Christian Paulian who didn't have any knowledge. I started my study as far back as ancient history has text and am now in modern science and futerism. I don't follow any dogma's or religions, or guru's. I took the time to find the evedience, all I am saying is if you take the time to look for the evedience for God, you will need a lot of time becuase it's there and it's extensive. nothing more, nothing less.
@truthseeker010101 Telling me that you studied the evidence is still not evidence. Your actual religion or lack of it, and even your personal accolades are not proof. What is your proof? And what the hell are we talking about again.
@fatouche99 as I said I was not attempting to prove anything to you, I only said if you "seek, you will find". I cannot make you listen, understand, or study, thats up to you.
@truthseeker010101 Which god. Christian, Xanthian, Islam? Or is this a deist kind of thing? I am seeking facts, which is where I derive my truth, but if you don't care to steer me to your way of thinking then why are we even having a conversation? Seriously. Just asking.
@fatouche99 I watched the advised episode, but I'm still confused. I can accept that there could be a god or infinite being, but I still don't see any proof for that. I accept that it COULD be true. Next question. Do you believe that this god cares about my sex-life or will send me to hell because I don't believe in him? If you believe in a god without dogma, I'm fine with that, but when ancient books with their barbaric ideals play into this, that's when I start laughing. Nothing personal
@yillow1 The paradox is not logic. I used the socratic method to prove it when I asked you; can infinity create something greater then infinity?
The answer is no. Are you so stupid that you don't understand? You have to rebuttal the with a question, not a retelling of the orginal statement, like saying it over and over makes it true?
"God's infinite attribute's is defined by many people as omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniessent. I believe science has proven beyound doubt that the attributes we give to God are existant, how else could we attribute them?"
How has science proven that the attributes people give to god exist? And what do you mean by "how else could we attribute them?"?
Also, yes can god create a boulder, yada yada, yada, is a paradoxical question. But omnipotence is still a paradoxical
concept itself. "the paradox highlights cases where, in performing an action, an omnipotent being would be limiting its abilities (therefore rendering it very firmly not omnipotent); conversely if it was unable to perform such an action, it would also be proving itself not to be omnipotent." -rationalwiki's omnipotence paradox article
I was showing an explanation of what the paradox was. If you can find anything that can refute the omnipotence paradox let me know. I can't think of a way in which the paradox fails. I had to learn about the paradox from somewhere, it just happens to be listed on the wiki. The thing is paradoxes deal with things that contradict themselves. Omnipotence contradicts itself. So it is paradoxical.
"God's infinite attribute's is defined by many people as omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniessent. I believe science has proven beyound doubt that the attributes we give to God are existant, how else could we attribute them?"
How has science proven that the attributes people give to god exist? And what do you mean by "how else could we attribute them?"?
I agree that science is an amazing tool, but it's a tool (the only tool that we have) for determining fact from fiction.
"By diffinition God is ineffable. God's infinite attribute's is defined by many people as omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniessent."
Just on the point of omnipotence. Omnipotence is paradoxical. I hate to use this as an example but; Could God create a boulder so large that he himself could not lift it?
If he can create a boulder so large that he can't lift it, then he is not omnipotent. If he can not create a boulder so large that he can't lift it then he is also not omnipotent.
By who's definition are you using that God is ineffable? If you're getting it from the Bible or other holy books that make statements about the nature and being of god, why accept those definitions and not the definitions made by, say, the ancient greeks about the existence and nature of Zeus?
@yillow1 So you want to find evedience for the Creator God? Zues was an alien according to the history channel. : ) So Zues had to be a person and not God. We in our ignorance thought a lot of material objects where God but with reasoning skills and logic mankind has developed a greater understanding of reality and a better understand of the source of reality which is called God. Your question is this : Can infinity create something greater then infinity?
and can be replicated. You can't have different unique truths, either it's true or it isn't. Can you come up with a scenarios in which there are multiple, yet exclusive, truths about something? I don't mean something like that pen is green being a truth and that pen has ink in it also being a truth.
Ladies and gentleman, the enemies of western civilization: agressive militant atheism, religious fanatics (radical islam for the most part), extreme left liberals. Fucking idiots.
@chadwick0091 Wash your mouth before speaking to a european american idiot. The degree you treat religious people like lunatics (im willing to guess your one of those who think of himself as superior to a religious human being) is what i will use against intolerant bastards like you.
@dragaoastro69 oh so you can tell me to watch my mouth when i say shit to you but you when you say shit to me it's totally acceptable. fucking hypocrite. and for the record, i don't think i'm superior to any religious person. I just have a difference of opinion as to whether or not a god exists. so, are we gonna call it even and have a discussion like reasonable human beings? or are you gonna keep making insults and then i'll just block you? your call, bro.
@chadwick0091 "agressive militant atheism" I called idiots to these tipe of people who are as intolerant as the religious fanatics on the other side of the table. If you do not fit this category why did you call me a troll??? Did i insult you personaly in my initial coment??? This video and others are as evil as the tele-evangelist in your countrie. The problem is that in your countrie you fire guns before asking questions, just, violent, agressive, inflexible rethoric. My call? To avoid this.
@dragaoastro69 idk what you mean by "aggressive militant atheism." I'm completely tolerant of religious people. I fully advocate anybody's right to speak about their beliefs (any beliefs). and yeah, you did insult but not on a personal level. i'm completely in favor of asking questions and talking through differences before resorting to violence (NOT EVERYBODY IN AMERICA IS THE SAME).
@chadwick0091 If that is true, then i humbly apologise to you brother. I guess i been speaking and debating whit a lot of agressive atheists (americans) and i just cant make them see that religion like everything else can be used to great evil. But we cannot deduce, because of some bad apples, that all religious persons are like this. I comited the same error you you. As a christian i am ashamed of some that call themselves christians and betray christ word every single day.
@dragaoastro69 thank you. i accept your apology. i apologize for my comment as well. the reason i think that american atheists seem to be more aggressive toward religious people is because we're constantly surrounded by it and feel very pressured by christians to accept their beliefs. i mean, we're one of the religious countries in the world and sometimes, atheists face the risk of losing friends, family, or even have their own lives in jeopardy solely because they don't believe in a god
@chadwick0091 Let me just say that you seem to be a very sensitive human being. You have a good heart and can be rational enough to see that agressive rethoric that i described, so common in the usa in almost all areas, realy poisons the debate. So, peace to you brother and to the ones you love and i whant you to be friend on youtube and hope we can debate this whit sofistication and in a polite way in the future.
ps: i know not all americans are like that. I was stupid. LOVE your countrie.
@chadwick0091 My definition of "agressive militant atheism"? A ideology that defends the idea that religious people are all pron to evil, to intolerance, to irrationality, to hate. That religion is evil and has been tha cause for all the wars and suffering in the world. That we, religious human beings, live deluded lifes whit afraid of science and reason. The aim? To erradicate this "virus" like dawkins calls it and to impose a utopian new world were we all can live peacuful lives.
@chadwick0091 Ho, i just realise he his a agressive militant atheist. I just saw other video and he his whit a guy who as a t shirt that says that god is a virus.
@dragaoastro69 well you do have to remember that the callers called the show...not the other way around. and matt is an extremely nice, knowledgeable, and bright person. sometimes he can lose his cool on callers for various reasons. that guy with the t-shirt of "the god virus" is Dr. Darrel Ray. "the god virus" is the name of his book he wrote a couple years ago
@yillow1 Unicorns did exist, not the mythological unicorn that is a horse with a horn, that has always been a fantasy. The "rhinoceros unicornis" is the Latin "Unicorn" spoken about in the Bible, because I believe this is what your referrring to. There is a video on youtube that explains this well, it's called "Why Does the Bible Mention Unicorns? " and I challenge you to watch it and shed some of your hate, prejudice, ignorance, and arrogance.
@tranquility4all I have explained in detail that God is force, energy, and all life and all these things clearly exist. I have also said several times that I don't mind if you think differently then me which is not preeching, and in return you insult me and yell at me. I am sorry your in the some self created hell and you feel you need to be mean and crude becuase your opinions differ from mine. I am not interested in arguing with you bro, have a nice life friend.
@yillow1 and a better logical statement to explain what I said would have been "energy exists therefor energy exists" or "Force exists therefor force exists". I , like many others, have spent a lifetime searching for evedience for the attributes of God. My search has yeilded me many fruits. I cannot prove anything to you, I cannot give you the evedience if you refuse to see it out of prejudice. I left christianty as you know it to find truth, you might have to leave atheism. : )
What kind of evidence would you have that I couldn't see out of prejudice? Also Christianity is a religion with dogmas, atheist is the lack of belief in a god. Obviously people can stop being an atheist, but the way you worded the last sentence you made Christianity and Atheism both seem like religions.
Also I watched the video. Let's just assume that fine, back when the bible was written they saw rhino's and called them unicorns.
@yillow1 "the way you worded the last sentence you made Christianity and Atheism both seem like religions."
You noticed that huh, that's becuase I consider a complete rejection of religion to be a religion. Although some atheist's are true to the idiology of atheism, most are just anti-theist's who know absolutly nothing in the way of science. I am betting that your an Atheist, not one of those anti-theist's who say there atheist.
How does that change anything about the validity of the bible and how does it wipe away all the false statements in the bible?
Also you said, "God is force, energy, and all life and all these things clearly exist." and I did the same things with a mythic creature. What I meant was that you can plug anything in the place of god to prove it true. Force exists, energy exists, life exists. How do you then get to a god exists?
@yillow1 "Force exists, energy exists, life exists. How do you then get to a god exists? "
By diffinition God is ineffable. God's infinite attribute's is defined by many people as omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniessent. I believe science has proven beyound doubt that the attributes we give to God are existant, how else could we attribute them? I am also of the school that all is one, and the one is God. But I'm sure you want non of my new age mysticism crap. So we can leave it alone.
@yillow1 I am completly in love with truth, which is God. Science is an amazing tool for truth, these types of finds are what I live for...
"A fundamental but elusive step in the early evolution of life on Earth has been replicated
Researchers synthesized RNA,. Until now, they couldn’t explain how these ingredients might have formed.
“It’s like molecular choreography, where the molecules choreograph their own behavior,” said organic chemist John Sutherland of the University of Manchester"
"A fundamental but elusive step in the early evolution of life on Earth has been replicated..."
I take it you believe in evolution as do I. I don't really have any background in Biology or an understanding of RNA or anything so I can't really make an educated comment on the molecular choreography.
"There is no wrong or right answer to those three, I just want to know how you express truth. "
I express truth as that which has evidence to support a claim, is verifiable
DId you know while we argue over who is expressing the truth the "right" way a small group of bankers is destroying all of our advances in science and free energy to maintian there control and power over the corparate money machines called banks. I could get a ph. d. and be the 30th person to discover the cure for cancer, or free energy but that wont matter becuase I'll be silenced by the people in control. it's the next dark ages! called the NWO. Watch THRIVE!
@joembush What is the truth? Did force and energy form the universe in the big bang? Is this ineffiable infinite omnipotent omnipresent force in all life, in all forms, and ever change? The evolution of the universe is nothing like "I am that I am" or "I shall be that I shall be". I feel like we all see life and truth and express it in our own way but the truth always leads us to the same place. You may not believe others truth is truth, but that doesn't change the fact there all truth.
Any real discussion between an atheist and a devout Christian is fruitless because no Christian is looking for any truth. They just assert they already know the truth. So let's just teach our children to think for themselves and one day the religious will die out, and we can finally have peace and truly excel as a race. Hearing that argument, and reading these ridiculous comments arguing the existence of a god is almost painful.
@truthseeker010101 All You're doing is PREACHING. You're NOT forming a RATIONAL ARGUMENT supported with EVIDENCE. Truth is something which can be supported with EVIDENCE. Your ASSertion that a god exists is nothing more than a belief which isn't supported with evidence. You're STUPID to suggest when someone doesn't share Your belief It somehow proves Your belief is true ?
How can atheists who completely reject all things religious and refuse to study ANY scriptures claim to know them at the same time they reject them?
Prejudice and hate lead to knowledge? NOT reading something leads to wisdom? If only this where true. The truth is that atheist might as well be the word IGNORANCE.
@Nicolasduca truth hurts doesn't it. And I didn't say it! I got it out of a book!
"“Almost 50 % of all the killings in human history were committed in the past 100 years by regimes that either actively promoted atheism or discouraged religion. 141,160,000 people.”
@Nicolasduca You think I talk to atheist's all day about God and I don't have references, evidence, and a real grasp for knowledge? think again! Are you a Atheist or Agnostic?
@truthseeker010101 well, which one of the thousands of gods do you worship? jesus? allah? zeus? thor? yahweh? wait it doesn't matter. no matter which one you worship, you have no proof.
@Reiincarnation I don't need a label, a name, or a religion. Jesus was a good man and teacher, he is not God, Thor was an man, he is not God, yehweh is a attribute of God,, allah is a concept of God and also an attribute of God, elohim is 3 atributes of God. Evolution is a attribute of God. The force behind energy behind light behind matter is one infinite eniffable eternal God. Evolution proves the term Esyah asher esyah, I am that I am, I shall be that I shall be.
@truthseeker010101 God is an imaginary friend to many people who need something to worship. Many people worship a god out of fear because they also believe they will spend eternity in an imaginary place called hell if they don't worship a god. If You believe a god exists please DEFINE your god in specific terms & present evidence NOT scripture to support your belief.
@tranquility4all I don't need a label, a name, or a religion. Jesus was a good man and teacher, he is not God, Thor was an man, he is not God, yehweh is a attribute of God,, allah is a concept of God and also an attribute of God, elohim is 3 atributes of God. Evolution is a attribute of God. The force behind energy behind light behind matter is one infinite eniffable eternal God. Evolution proves the term Esyah asher esyah, I am that I am, I shall be that I shall be.
@tranquility4all God is the far reaching never ending search for truth, truth is God, and God is truth. Your truth is in fact God, all of everything envelopes what is God, exspecially you as a human being having all of the cosmos in your body being the image of God, and having conscience, reasoning, and logos, which is the great mind fire, you are a child of the logos, a peice or shard of the one conscience universe. God is whatever you make it. Evolution Science is your God. : )
@truthseeker010101 Your god envelops all attributes, is all that is, & is enniffable (You mean ineffable, Too great or extreme to be described) ? Really then You believe Your god is EVIL. If something envelops all attributes then it's also EVIL. Try forming a RATIONAL ARGUMENT to support Your ASSertion that a god exists. You claim there's even more proof to support Your claim ? So far You haven't presented any evidence or proof. STOP preaching & START presenting EVIDENCE not scripture.
@tranquility4all "Your god is EVIL" Yes, my God is both evil and good. God is singular, and good and evil represent a duality, how could God be only good? what would only good be like? Too much of a good thing always turns bad.
The Christian Bible also says God is evil and good
Isaiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
@truthseeker010101Carefully read my comments. I reject all theist clams. TRANSLATION, I don't believe a god exists.Therefor You're STUPID to ASSert I worship a god who is either good or evil or both. I know the BUY BULL claims your god is good & evil. I asked You not to preach but to try & present evidence to support the existence of any god. TRANSLATION, scripture isn't evidence. The BUY BULL isn't evidence of a god's existence. It's an Assertion of a god's existence.
@tranquility4all You don't have to be an ass about it. I am not interested and you believing what I do, I know what everyone believes is truth, and I agree with them all, including you.
As for the Americans who think they don't currently own slaves let me point out that the cotton shirt your wearing was made at "slave labor" costs! AND most of our american companies use "outsourced" labor for our products. I guess becuase you can't see the little girls face who made you shirt you don't support a similar evil. This has nothing to do with ethics, it is a human condition
There is a reason why Christ said treat others as yourself, this morality.
The ancient customs are moral, there moral the ancient people who lived them.
The customs of our time, are they moral?
Morality and Ethics is a huge topic of study, some say morality is based on culture, some say it's subjective and each individual has his own ethics. I am of the latter, all Ethics subjective to the individual person.
DCT Divine Command Theory works as well, Treat others as your self!
The Bible does not support slavery, if you know anything abut history you know this, Endensured servatude is not slavery in sense!
If Endensured servatude is slavery then we need to end the 4 slave camps we have in the U.S.A. The Army, The Navy, The Marines, The Air Force. All slavery according to your logic.
And as for prisoners of war, they're children were always FREE men! And ussually they where one day freed as well.
abortion, there are a lot of factors to talk about in abortion and it's not in scripture so we can leave that one alone. I am pro abortion under right circumstances. And as far as normal slutty girls having them all the time, I'd go one further, why is there not a program that regulates who can reproduce?
@truthseeker010101 I like how you remove all your comments to hide the fact that your'e a hypocrite doing exactly what you accuse others of. Go ahead and post an argument... All I see is you taking up 10 pages with your troll rambling.
@guayacan07 The bible is just a collection of books, it's not the end all to truth, it's not the divine word of God, it's a book written by men, inspired by God. I could write a book inspired by banana's and no one would assume that it's the absolute truth of banana's, or banana's commanded it to be written. There are countless other books inspired by God and there all just as good as the Bible, maybe better. The Bhagavad Gita the Gospel of Thomas, Marcus Aurelius Meditations, etc etc
"...had to marry her." And, could never divorce her.
Kailoa36 1 month ago
"If they hurt them, they were actually to be stoned!" LMAO like that's moral either!
GotZest 1 month ago
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Atheist's are the stupidest twats on earth!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
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your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
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your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
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your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
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your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
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your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
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your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
Oh and by the way "truthseeker", considering the fact that you're christian, I would say you're doing a pretty bad job of it.
DerNoziroh 1 month ago
@DerNoziroh I never said I was christian. thank you for showing your gifted intellectual skills, you can't even decipher a few short paragraphs on my page no less the cosmos!
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
Matt is such a badass!
DerNoziroh 1 month ago
This guy's got nothing, except to pretend that the text somehow doesn't mean what it says.
blackmichael75 2 months ago 3
this is why I use the word nigger to describe guys like mike.it may be wrong but racism was pounded into my head as a child so since the word is there in my head I'll apply it by definition.exept for black guys they are exempt
thanksforthemessdick 2 months ago
@thanksforthemessdick Your excuses don't excuse you, your not a racist, your just a loser.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 ahh and you must be the decider.blow it out your ass nigger loser
thanksforthemessdick 2 months ago
The Deist one.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
I think that aliens told us to write all these scientific facts down, we took the facts and twisted them a bit, called the aliens "gods" and started religion as you know it today. The ONE is beyound religion and knowledge, it is infinite and all attributes and no attributes. It is the ineffable. It is the source, and the end. I am that I am and shall be that I shall be. God is and always was.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
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The big bang created only light... We are made of light waves...
Einstein's theory of relativity means that time is relative to (and therefore dependent on) light, so time cannot exist without light.
Book of Genesis... the FIRST thing God speaks into existence is LIGHT, hence the beginning of TIME.
Not the universe, not the earth, but light...
Sounds to me like the 'big bang' was God's booming voice...
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
"Let the Ignorant be Ignorant" Paul
"They have callused ears that do not hear" Jesus
"How long will the mockers mock and fools hate knowledge?" Solomon
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
Athiest's are just unhappy with there life, or wish they where God so in there hate they foolishly proclaim that God is not real.
"A fool says in his heart, there is no God"
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101
I respected your beliefs when I was having a back and forth with you earlier, but this statement is asinine. If they don't believe what I do they must be unhappy.
yillow1 2 months ago
@yillow1
Just to be clear it was the statement you made about Atheists are just unhappy, etc.
yillow1 2 months ago
@yillow1 I truly beleive Atheism is for the unhappy. Or those who see religion as bs.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101
It doesn't matter if you truly believe that atheism is for the unhappy. I am an atheist. I am not unhappy. It doesn't make me unhappy to not believe in a higher power or miracles, etc. And I'm sure there's more than just me who are atheists and happy. Also happiness doesn't have any bearing what-so-ever on if something is true or not. I know you didn't bring that up, but I'm just throwing that out there.
yillow1 2 months ago 5
@truthseeker010101 I truly believe you are a nigger and my beliefe trumps your belief I WIN
thanksforthemessdick 2 months ago
@thanksforthemessdick your just proving my point. Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate. I'm sorry you don't enjoy your life, here's an idea. kill yourself!
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 Sorry, but why are you defining atheism in such a non adult way? It sounds foolish to assume people who disagree with you are foolish, childish, and are full of hate. And it's cheap, and self deceiving.
Ranokian 2 months ago
@Ranokian I'm describing 99% of the athiests I've talked to. One was nice. I think maybe two, out of 100's , maybe 1000.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 Oh the old "I've never met a nice atheist" story.
Come visit England, everyone here is atheist and the majority of people (Well, depending on where you visit) are very nice.
And by the way, if you call atheists "ignorant, foolish, childish and filled with hate" then no wonder they are being horrible to you. You sound like an utter cunt, and atheist or not, call me those things to my face and I would punch you in yours.
66tomm99 1 month ago
@66tomm99 I know for a fact that not everyone in England is an Athiest, please don't make things up.
DanteDeshar 1 month ago
@DanteDeshar It was just an exaggeration to emphasise the point that out of the hundreds of English people I have met very few of them identify with a religion. Recent polls also back up this anecdotal evidence.
I would hope no one genuinely thought I was trying to claim every single person in England was atheists. But if anyone did, I apologise, and would like to confirm there are actually theists in England.
66tomm99 1 month ago
@66tomm99 Thankyou for correcting your statement, I would like you to mention which polls back this up though so I can confirm this myself.
DanteDeshar 1 month ago
@DanteDeshar humanism*DOT*org*DOT*uk/campaigns/religion-and-belief-surveys-statistics
39% say they have no religion
65% of people say they are not religious (I don't know if you are from England, but many people are baptised/married in churches. Me and my parents have been baptised and confirmed, my mother always puts down she is part of a religion even though she doesn't believe in god) cont...
66tomm99 1 month ago
@66tomm99 The link to the polls was enough, you didn't have to post your observations along side it.
DanteDeshar 1 month ago
@DanteDeshar No I did. Have you ever heard the phrase "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics"?
Statistics and numbers are all well and good, but without a conext they can be meaningless or misrepresentative.
If you are not from England, or had missed looking at previous polls, you would not understand the context.
66tomm99 1 month ago
@66tomm99 Fair enough.
DanteDeshar 1 month ago
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@DanteDeshar I would love a logical scientific world without emotions swaying truth, or authority. I don't recognize ethos or pathos as valid arguments in any area, I choice logos.
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
@DanteDeshar Backed up with the fact that people under 18 adopt their parents religion, and the 2001 poll showed 70% of people identified as Christian, as opposed to 53% now). Although people sometimes give up their religion later in life, the rapid decline likely comes from the younger generation, which are the people I am more likely to have met.
66tomm99 1 month ago
@DanteDeshar On the topic of identifying with a religion but not believing, in Britain the faith based schools consistently perform as some of the best schools in the country, but obviously require the parent and child to be of that faith for them to attend. This also skews the polls in favour of identifying with a religion.
66tomm99 1 month ago
@truthseeker010101 Just addressing your 99% of Athiests comment. If there are acceptions to the rule then why do you group the nice few with the nasty group. You also stated 'Atheism is for the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate.' which means you're saying those nice Athiests you spoke to are 'the ignorant, the foolish, the childish, and those who are filled with hate.' which is the opposite to nice. So which of your two statements is true?
DanteDeshar 1 month ago
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@DanteDeshar both , people use there beliefs as a reason to be crap to one another. I still think most atheists choice it because there life sucks in some way and it shows itself in there attitude towards life, and not some science they found. Science is just there crutch, and in the same way there are plenty of ignorant religious people who never read there own scripture and just choice there beliefs because of there regions culture.
truthseeker010101 1 month ago
@truthseeker010101 there arent many unhappy religious peoples?
Mollifier16616111 2 months ago
@Mollifier16616111 Who said that? not me! My mother turned to the church and dogma right before she killed herself, she wasn't happy with all her baptist dogma, it didnt bring aby comfort to her, it was llike turning to santa or the easter bunny for meaning in life.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
Atheist's know there is a cause. They don't know how or what it is in science but who cares, everyone knows there is a infinite cause to there finite existence. You being her conscience and observing me say this is more then enough proof logically.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
Creation is not a science, and before you go telling me it's a conspiracy and you creationists are victims, you can believe in god and still accept evolution. It does not diminish your belief system to do so. Many scientists worth their salt who accept evolution are theists! When you pick and choose certain sciences that you just don't want to believe are accurate over all the other things that you take for granted you make yourselves look foolish.
Antimidation 2 months ago
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This is where i disagree with people who ask me why can't i just let people believe what they want and leave them alone...because it's detrimental to our SOCIETY, when you interfere with human rights, or education, separation of church and state then you make it my business...you want to teach kids that the world is 6000 years old YOU have made it My business. This is not a trivial error when you have the evidence there staring you in the face that the earth is 4.5 billion years old
Antimidation 2 months ago
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Antimidation 2 months ago
Without fornication...he wouldn't be born....as well. So what's his point?
Antimidation 2 months ago
The age of the Earth is irrelevant to whether or not there's A god... technically, yes, but the fact that the Earth is four orders of magnitude older than the Bible states means that the Bible is WRONG, which IS relevant to whether or not it was inspired by THAT particular god.
JMUDoc 2 months ago 14
@JMUDoc,
There are limitations on what we can say about the chronology of the creation myth in the Book of Genesis. Essentially, the narrative does not explicitly define the meaning of 'day' as a period of 24 hours. This has been a problem identified by theologians and is the reason why there is sharp conflict between Young Earth and Old Earth creationists. Another difficulty for scholars is that no original manuscripts of the Pentateuch have been preserved over time for translation.
AustralianAstronomer 2 months ago
What is greater then infinity?
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 Nothing is greater than infinity. Also, infinity is merely a mathematical variable used in theoretical formulas. That variable symbolizes a number that no other number can be greater than.
fatouche99 2 months ago
@fatouche99 Exactly, so it is illogical to ask that "a variable that symbolizes a number that no other number can be greater than" should create "a variable that symbolizes a number that no other number can be greater than. ". Like deviding by zero, the answer is nulled out by the fact the question is illogical.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
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truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 Yes, that's true but some of our concepts are more concrete than others. There are five fingers on the human hand. We can see them and count them. However, infinity is a variable we take on faith. So is gravity. Although we know it exists and we can measure it, it's cause is unknown. Even so, we put the variable "g" in our formulas non-the-less. So far it has worked pretty well. I'll try and sound less moronic next time.
fatouche99 2 months ago
@fatouche99 "However, infinity is a variable we take on faith. So is gravity. Although we know it exists and we can measure it, it's cause is unknown."
We can only see its affect, there can be no cause for infinity.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 lmao
krypekeeper 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 No knowable cause because we don't understand it's origins. However, since our wealth of knowledge has grown so vast just over the last hundred years, there's no reason not to think that with more knowledge we might know it's cause. In science, it is usually smart to reserve judgement about the unknown.
fatouche99 2 months ago
@fatouche99 you don't know? I do
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 I guess you have the same certainty that Hindus, Muslims and every over religion has. It doesn't really matter because I'm okay living with uncertainty. That's part of the human condition. And besides, it will take more than you saying I know to convince me. I require evidence.
fatouche99 2 months ago
@fatouche99 I am not of any religious sect. I was once a Christian Paulian who didn't have any knowledge. I started my study as far back as ancient history has text and am now in modern science and futerism. I don't follow any dogma's or religions, or guru's. I took the time to find the evedience, all I am saying is if you take the time to look for the evedience for God, you will need a lot of time becuase it's there and it's extensive. nothing more, nothing less.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 Telling me that you studied the evidence is still not evidence. Your actual religion or lack of it, and even your personal accolades are not proof. What is your proof? And what the hell are we talking about again.
fatouche99 2 months ago
@fatouche99 as I said I was not attempting to prove anything to you, I only said if you "seek, you will find". I cannot make you listen, understand, or study, thats up to you.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@fatouche99 be a skeptic, be an atheist. Just know other people understand and know God and see you as ignorant.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@fatouche99 "Atheist Experience Caller makes good argument #728 "
Watch the one where the caller actually knows God and understands.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 Which god. Christian, Xanthian, Islam? Or is this a deist kind of thing? I am seeking facts, which is where I derive my truth, but if you don't care to steer me to your way of thinking then why are we even having a conversation? Seriously. Just asking.
fatouche99 2 months ago
@fatouche99 I watched the advised episode, but I'm still confused. I can accept that there could be a god or infinite being, but I still don't see any proof for that. I accept that it COULD be true. Next question. Do you believe that this god cares about my sex-life or will send me to hell because I don't believe in him? If you believe in a god without dogma, I'm fine with that, but when ancient books with their barbaric ideals play into this, that's when I start laughing. Nothing personal
fatouche99 2 months ago
@fatouche99 not really, no. I am not dogmatic. I am not even religious.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101
Depends which infinity. No, I'm not being facetious; some infinities are bigger than others, and there is no "biggest" infinity.
JMUDoc 2 months ago
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@JMUDoc lol. No.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101 nothing....
krypekeeper 2 months ago
@krypekeeper good answer
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@yillow1 The paradox is not logic. I used the socratic method to prove it when I asked you; can infinity create something greater then infinity?
The answer is no. Are you so stupid that you don't understand? You have to rebuttal the with a question, not a retelling of the orginal statement, like saying it over and over makes it true?
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@yillow Can infinity create something greater than infinity, make it a material rock, composed of itself, sustianed by itself.
This might as well be can you devide something by 0, or can you have something greater then everything?
I can't understand how you think that's a logical question.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
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@truthseeker010101
"God's infinite attribute's is defined by many people as omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniessent. I believe science has proven beyound doubt that the attributes we give to God are existant, how else could we attribute them?"
How has science proven that the attributes people give to god exist? And what do you mean by "how else could we attribute them?"?
Also, yes can god create a boulder, yada yada, yada, is a paradoxical question. But omnipotence is still a paradoxical
yillow1 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101
concept itself. "the paradox highlights cases where, in performing an action, an omnipotent being would be limiting its abilities (therefore rendering it very firmly not omnipotent); conversely if it was unable to perform such an action, it would also be proving itself not to be omnipotent." -rationalwiki's omnipotence paradox article
yillow1 2 months ago
@yillow1 Your question is listed on wiki? What has that got to do with anything? God is listed on wiki too, does this somehow prove something?
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101
I was showing an explanation of what the paradox was. If you can find anything that can refute the omnipotence paradox let me know. I can't think of a way in which the paradox fails. I had to learn about the paradox from somewhere, it just happens to be listed on the wiki. The thing is paradoxes deal with things that contradict themselves. Omnipotence contradicts itself. So it is paradoxical.
yillow1 2 months ago
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@truthseeker010101
Also, what's your response to this:
"God's infinite attribute's is defined by many people as omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniessent. I believe science has proven beyound doubt that the attributes we give to God are existant, how else could we attribute them?"
How has science proven that the attributes people give to god exist? And what do you mean by "how else could we attribute them?"?
yillow1 2 months ago
I love fornication, its a good time for all when you do it right.
parkert51 3 months ago
thank you for being so civil yillow.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101
I agree that science is an amazing tool, but it's a tool (the only tool that we have) for determining fact from fiction.
"By diffinition God is ineffable. God's infinite attribute's is defined by many people as omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniessent."
Just on the point of omnipotence. Omnipotence is paradoxical. I hate to use this as an example but; Could God create a boulder so large that he himself could not lift it?
yillow1 3 months ago
@yillow1 "Could God create a boulder so large that he himself could not lift it?"
No. The question is "paradoxical" not the answer.
truthseeker010101 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101
If he can create a boulder so large that he can't lift it, then he is not omnipotent. If he can not create a boulder so large that he can't lift it then he is also not omnipotent.
By who's definition are you using that God is ineffable? If you're getting it from the Bible or other holy books that make statements about the nature and being of god, why accept those definitions and not the definitions made by, say, the ancient greeks about the existence and nature of Zeus?
yillow1 3 months ago
@yillow1 So you want to find evedience for the Creator God? Zues was an alien according to the history channel. : ) So Zues had to be a person and not God. We in our ignorance thought a lot of material objects where God but with reasoning skills and logic mankind has developed a greater understanding of reality and a better understand of the source of reality which is called God. Your question is this : Can infinity create something greater then infinity?
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Pitagyrossalonikios 2 months ago
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@truthseeker010101 Btw its Zeus, not Zues... And I wouldn't take seriously the claims about Zeus beiing a dude from outer space...
Pitagyrossalonikios 2 months ago
@truthseeker010101
and can be replicated. You can't have different unique truths, either it's true or it isn't. Can you come up with a scenarios in which there are multiple, yet exclusive, truths about something? I don't mean something like that pen is green being a truth and that pen has ink in it also being a truth.
yillow1 3 months ago
Ladies and gentleman, the enemies of western civilization: agressive militant atheism, religious fanatics (radical islam for the most part), extreme left liberals. Fucking idiots.
dragaoastro69 3 months ago
@dragaoastro69 hey if i want anymore shit outta you I'd squeeze your head. GTFO troll
chadwick0091 3 months ago
@chadwick0091 Wash your mouth before speaking to a european american idiot. The degree you treat religious people like lunatics (im willing to guess your one of those who think of himself as superior to a religious human being) is what i will use against intolerant bastards like you.
dragaoastro69 3 months ago
@dragaoastro69 oh so you can tell me to watch my mouth when i say shit to you but you when you say shit to me it's totally acceptable. fucking hypocrite. and for the record, i don't think i'm superior to any religious person. I just have a difference of opinion as to whether or not a god exists. so, are we gonna call it even and have a discussion like reasonable human beings? or are you gonna keep making insults and then i'll just block you? your call, bro.
chadwick0091 3 months ago
@chadwick0091 "agressive militant atheism" I called idiots to these tipe of people who are as intolerant as the religious fanatics on the other side of the table. If you do not fit this category why did you call me a troll??? Did i insult you personaly in my initial coment??? This video and others are as evil as the tele-evangelist in your countrie. The problem is that in your countrie you fire guns before asking questions, just, violent, agressive, inflexible rethoric. My call? To avoid this.
dragaoastro69 3 months ago
@dragaoastro69 idk what you mean by "aggressive militant atheism." I'm completely tolerant of religious people. I fully advocate anybody's right to speak about their beliefs (any beliefs). and yeah, you did insult but not on a personal level. i'm completely in favor of asking questions and talking through differences before resorting to violence (NOT EVERYBODY IN AMERICA IS THE SAME).
chadwick0091 3 months ago
@chadwick0091 If that is true, then i humbly apologise to you brother. I guess i been speaking and debating whit a lot of agressive atheists (americans) and i just cant make them see that religion like everything else can be used to great evil. But we cannot deduce, because of some bad apples, that all religious persons are like this. I comited the same error you you. As a christian i am ashamed of some that call themselves christians and betray christ word every single day.
dragaoastro69 3 months ago
@dragaoastro69 thank you. i accept your apology. i apologize for my comment as well. the reason i think that american atheists seem to be more aggressive toward religious people is because we're constantly surrounded by it and feel very pressured by christians to accept their beliefs. i mean, we're one of the religious countries in the world and sometimes, atheists face the risk of losing friends, family, or even have their own lives in jeopardy solely because they don't believe in a god
chadwick0091 3 months ago
@chadwick0091 Let me just say that you seem to be a very sensitive human being. You have a good heart and can be rational enough to see that agressive rethoric that i described, so common in the usa in almost all areas, realy poisons the debate. So, peace to you brother and to the ones you love and i whant you to be friend on youtube and hope we can debate this whit sofistication and in a polite way in the future.
ps: i know not all americans are like that. I was stupid. LOVE your countrie.
dragaoastro69 3 months ago
@dragaoastro69 well thanks, man. same to you! send me a friend request sometime =D
chadwick0091 3 months ago
@chadwick0091 My definition of "agressive militant atheism"? A ideology that defends the idea that religious people are all pron to evil, to intolerance, to irrationality, to hate. That religion is evil and has been tha cause for all the wars and suffering in the world. That we, religious human beings, live deluded lifes whit afraid of science and reason. The aim? To erradicate this "virus" like dawkins calls it and to impose a utopian new world were we all can live peacuful lives.
dragaoastro69 3 months ago
@chadwick0091 Ho, i just realise he his a agressive militant atheist. I just saw other video and he his whit a guy who as a t shirt that says that god is a virus.
dragaoastro69 3 months ago
@dragaoastro69 well you do have to remember that the callers called the show...not the other way around. and matt is an extremely nice, knowledgeable, and bright person. sometimes he can lose his cool on callers for various reasons. that guy with the t-shirt of "the god virus" is Dr. Darrel Ray. "the god virus" is the name of his book he wrote a couple years ago
chadwick0091 3 months ago
@chadwick0091 The ball guy here seems to me to be this kind of people.
dragaoastro69 3 months ago
I rarely meet a polite atheist, I wonder why
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@yillow1 Unicorns did exist, not the mythological unicorn that is a horse with a horn, that has always been a fantasy. The "rhinoceros unicornis" is the Latin "Unicorn" spoken about in the Bible, because I believe this is what your referrring to. There is a video on youtube that explains this well, it's called "Why Does the Bible Mention Unicorns? " and I challenge you to watch it and shed some of your hate, prejudice, ignorance, and arrogance.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@tranquility4all I have explained in detail that God is force, energy, and all life and all these things clearly exist. I have also said several times that I don't mind if you think differently then me which is not preeching, and in return you insult me and yell at me. I am sorry your in the some self created hell and you feel you need to be mean and crude becuase your opinions differ from mine. I am not interested in arguing with you bro, have a nice life friend.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101
unicorns are force, energy and all life and all these things clearly exist, so unicorns exist.
yillow1 3 months ago
@yillow1 and a better logical statement to explain what I said would have been "energy exists therefor energy exists" or "Force exists therefor force exists". I , like many others, have spent a lifetime searching for evedience for the attributes of God. My search has yeilded me many fruits. I cannot prove anything to you, I cannot give you the evedience if you refuse to see it out of prejudice. I left christianty as you know it to find truth, you might have to leave atheism. : )
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101
What kind of evidence would you have that I couldn't see out of prejudice? Also Christianity is a religion with dogmas, atheist is the lack of belief in a god. Obviously people can stop being an atheist, but the way you worded the last sentence you made Christianity and Atheism both seem like religions.
Also I watched the video. Let's just assume that fine, back when the bible was written they saw rhino's and called them unicorns.
yillow1 3 months ago
@yillow1 "the way you worded the last sentence you made Christianity and Atheism both seem like religions."
You noticed that huh, that's becuase I consider a complete rejection of religion to be a religion. Although some atheist's are true to the idiology of atheism, most are just anti-theist's who know absolutly nothing in the way of science. I am betting that your an Atheist, not one of those anti-theist's who say there atheist.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101
How does that change anything about the validity of the bible and how does it wipe away all the false statements in the bible?
Also you said, "God is force, energy, and all life and all these things clearly exist." and I did the same things with a mythic creature. What I meant was that you can plug anything in the place of god to prove it true. Force exists, energy exists, life exists. How do you then get to a god exists?
yillow1 3 months ago
@yillow1 "Force exists, energy exists, life exists. How do you then get to a god exists? "
By diffinition God is ineffable. God's infinite attribute's is defined by many people as omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniessent. I believe science has proven beyound doubt that the attributes we give to God are existant, how else could we attribute them? I am also of the school that all is one, and the one is God. But I'm sure you want non of my new age mysticism crap. So we can leave it alone.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@yillow1 I am completly in love with truth, which is God. Science is an amazing tool for truth, these types of finds are what I live for...
"A fundamental but elusive step in the early evolution of life on Earth has been replicated
Researchers synthesized RNA,. Until now, they couldn’t explain how these ingredients might have formed.
“It’s like molecular choreography, where the molecules choreograph their own behavior,” said organic chemist John Sutherland of the University of Manchester"
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@yillow1 "What kind of evidence would you have that I couldn't see out of prejudice?"
Everyone expresses the truth in a different unique way but there all truth.
Does darkness exist?
Does cold exist?
Does nothing exist?
There is no wrong or right answer to those three, I just want to know how you express truth.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101
"A fundamental but elusive step in the early evolution of life on Earth has been replicated..."
I take it you believe in evolution as do I. I don't really have any background in Biology or an understanding of RNA or anything so I can't really make an educated comment on the molecular choreography.
"There is no wrong or right answer to those three, I just want to know how you express truth. "
I express truth as that which has evidence to support a claim, is verifiable
yillow1 3 months ago
HAHAHAH the guy trying to explain slavery is hilarious...
nurmal2 3 months ago
DId you know while we argue over who is expressing the truth the "right" way a small group of bankers is destroying all of our advances in science and free energy to maintian there control and power over the corparate money machines called banks. I could get a ph. d. and be the 30th person to discover the cure for cancer, or free energy but that wont matter becuase I'll be silenced by the people in control. it's the next dark ages! called the NWO. Watch THRIVE!
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@joembush What is the truth? Did force and energy form the universe in the big bang? Is this ineffiable infinite omnipotent omnipresent force in all life, in all forms, and ever change? The evolution of the universe is nothing like "I am that I am" or "I shall be that I shall be". I feel like we all see life and truth and express it in our own way but the truth always leads us to the same place. You may not believe others truth is truth, but that doesn't change the fact there all truth.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
Any real discussion between an atheist and a devout Christian is fruitless because no Christian is looking for any truth. They just assert they already know the truth. So let's just teach our children to think for themselves and one day the religious will die out, and we can finally have peace and truly excel as a race. Hearing that argument, and reading these ridiculous comments arguing the existence of a god is almost painful.
joembush 3 months ago
All that I've said here is my God, and if you don't agree well that's even more proof of the infinite truth that is God. Love and Peace
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 I suggest You search for truth instead of ASSerting an undefined unproven god is truth.
tranquility4all 3 months ago
@tranquility4all I don't mind if that's your truth, enjoy yourself.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 All You're doing is PREACHING. You're NOT forming a RATIONAL ARGUMENT supported with EVIDENCE. Truth is something which can be supported with EVIDENCE. Your ASSertion that a god exists is nothing more than a belief which isn't supported with evidence. You're STUPID to suggest when someone doesn't share Your belief It somehow proves Your belief is true ?
tranquility4all 3 months ago
It's morally correct for a rapist to marry their victim because the guy who made up God was a rapi...oh wait.
muyo613 3 months ago
How can atheists who completely reject all things religious and refuse to study ANY scriptures claim to know them at the same time they reject them?
Prejudice and hate lead to knowledge? NOT reading something leads to wisdom? If only this where true. The truth is that atheist might as well be the word IGNORANCE.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 big lol +9
Nicolasduca 3 months ago
@Nicolasduca I said my piece, I'm glad you finding it entertaining.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101
Your ignorance pleases me.
"atheism is responsable for around 1/3 of all mass murders. "
big lol +34
Nicolasduca 3 months ago
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@Nicolasduca truth hurts doesn't it. And I didn't say it! I got it out of a book!
"“Almost 50 % of all the killings in human history were committed in the past 100 years by regimes that either actively promoted atheism or discouraged religion. 141,160,000 people.”
DEATH
BY GOVERNMENT
By R.J. Rummel
New Brunswick, N.J.:
Transaction Publishers, 1994."
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@Nicolasduca You think I talk to atheist's all day about God and I don't have references, evidence, and a real grasp for knowledge? think again! Are you a Atheist or Agnostic?
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
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@truthseeker010101
You think I talk to atheist's all day about God and I don't have references, evidence, and a real grasp for knowledge?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
think again!
Done.
Are you a Atheist or Agnostic?
I am a brony. Thats all you need to know. (Unless you think the truth is affected by who you are.)
Nicolasduca 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 you have evidence for god? HAHAHAHAHAHA LIKE WHAT?!
Reiincarnation 3 months ago
@Reiincarnation what would you consider proof? What is God to you?
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 well, which one of the thousands of gods do you worship? jesus? allah? zeus? thor? yahweh? wait it doesn't matter. no matter which one you worship, you have no proof.
Reiincarnation 3 months ago
@Reiincarnation I don't need a label, a name, or a religion. Jesus was a good man and teacher, he is not God, Thor was an man, he is not God, yehweh is a attribute of God,, allah is a concept of God and also an attribute of God, elohim is 3 atributes of God. Evolution is a attribute of God. The force behind energy behind light behind matter is one infinite eniffable eternal God. Evolution proves the term Esyah asher esyah, I am that I am, I shall be that I shall be.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 God is an imaginary friend to many people who need something to worship. Many people worship a god out of fear because they also believe they will spend eternity in an imaginary place called hell if they don't worship a god. If You believe a god exists please DEFINE your god in specific terms & present evidence NOT scripture to support your belief.
tranquility4all 3 months ago
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@tranquility4all I don't need a label, a name, or a religion. Jesus was a good man and teacher, he is not God, Thor was an man, he is not God, yehweh is a attribute of God,, allah is a concept of God and also an attribute of God, elohim is 3 atributes of God. Evolution is a attribute of God. The force behind energy behind light behind matter is one infinite eniffable eternal God. Evolution proves the term Esyah asher esyah, I am that I am, I shall be that I shall be.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@tranquility4all God is the far reaching never ending search for truth, truth is God, and God is truth. Your truth is in fact God, all of everything envelopes what is God, exspecially you as a human being having all of the cosmos in your body being the image of God, and having conscience, reasoning, and logos, which is the great mind fire, you are a child of the logos, a peice or shard of the one conscience universe. God is whatever you make it. Evolution Science is your God. : )
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 STOP preaching. You didn't assign attributes to your god nor present any evidence to support its' existence.
tranquility4all 3 months ago
@tranquility4all my God envelops all attributes, is all that is, and is eniffable.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 Your god envelops all attributes, is all that is, & is enniffable (You mean ineffable, Too great or extreme to be described) ? Really then You believe Your god is EVIL. If something envelops all attributes then it's also EVIL. Try forming a RATIONAL ARGUMENT to support Your ASSertion that a god exists. You claim there's even more proof to support Your claim ? So far You haven't presented any evidence or proof. STOP preaching & START presenting EVIDENCE not scripture.
tranquility4all 3 months ago
@tranquility4all "Your god is EVIL" Yes, my God is both evil and good. God is singular, and good and evil represent a duality, how could God be only good? what would only good be like? Too much of a good thing always turns bad.
The Christian Bible also says God is evil and good
Isaiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101Carefully read my comments. I reject all theist clams. TRANSLATION, I don't believe a god exists.Therefor You're STUPID to ASSert I worship a god who is either good or evil or both. I know the BUY BULL claims your god is good & evil. I asked You not to preach but to try & present evidence to support the existence of any god. TRANSLATION, scripture isn't evidence. The BUY BULL isn't evidence of a god's existence. It's an Assertion of a god's existence.
tranquility4all 3 months ago
@tranquility4all You don't have to be an ass about it. I am not interested and you believing what I do, I know what everyone believes is truth, and I agree with them all, including you.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 It's STUPID to ASSert what everyone believes is truth or true. NEWS FLASH, Many People believe many things which are NOT true.
tranquility4all 3 months ago
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As for the Americans who think they don't currently own slaves let me point out that the cotton shirt your wearing was made at "slave labor" costs! AND most of our american companies use "outsourced" labor for our products. I guess becuase you can't see the little girls face who made you shirt you don't support a similar evil. This has nothing to do with ethics, it is a human condition
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
There is a reason why Christ said treat others as yourself, this morality.
The ancient customs are moral, there moral the ancient people who lived them.
The customs of our time, are they moral?
Morality and Ethics is a huge topic of study, some say morality is based on culture, some say it's subjective and each individual has his own ethics. I am of the latter, all Ethics subjective to the individual person.
DCT Divine Command Theory works as well, Treat others as your self!
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
The Bible does not support slavery, if you know anything abut history you know this, Endensured servatude is not slavery in sense!
If Endensured servatude is slavery then we need to end the 4 slave camps we have in the U.S.A. The Army, The Navy, The Marines, The Air Force. All slavery according to your logic.
And as for prisoners of war, they're children were always FREE men! And ussually they where one day freed as well.
The Slavery point is laughable its so ignorant.
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
abortion, there are a lot of factors to talk about in abortion and it's not in scripture so we can leave that one alone. I am pro abortion under right circumstances. And as far as normal slutty girls having them all the time, I'd go one further, why is there not a program that regulates who can reproduce?
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truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 you're mentally unstable bud
rossmat707 3 months ago
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truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 I like how you remove all your comments to hide the fact that your'e a hypocrite doing exactly what you accuse others of. Go ahead and post an argument... All I see is you taking up 10 pages with your troll rambling.
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truthseeker010101 3 months ago
People are so afraid to question the BUY-BULL, keep avoiding all tough questions.
guayacan07 3 months ago
@guayacan07 The bible is just a collection of books, it's not the end all to truth, it's not the divine word of God, it's a book written by men, inspired by God. I could write a book inspired by banana's and no one would assume that it's the absolute truth of banana's, or banana's commanded it to be written. There are countless other books inspired by God and there all just as good as the Bible, maybe better. The Bhagavad Gita the Gospel of Thomas, Marcus Aurelius Meditations, etc etc
truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@academicworm i wanna see!!! spread the christian HATE, bro!!!
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truthseeker010101 3 months ago
@truthseeker010101 he just repeated exactly what you said and then you chastize him for saying it? are you that fucking obtuse?
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