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  • fuck joe frazier

  • george foreman is one of the most underrated fighters ever, foreman in his fucking 40s!!!! was competent in 12 rounds against peak holyfield, a prime foreman would rape evander, tyson (younger than evander) could not even finish the fight against a past prime version of holyfield. foreman won the belt after being 10 years retired, in his 40s was competent against young top guys, tyson in his late 30s was a joke who lost against garbage like mcbride or danny williams

  • the greatest fighter of all time .the only blemish was ali .he fort the wrong fight ,all the exsperts said take it easy on ali hes old ,he wanted to kill ali and went out to do just that and burned himself out .youth vs exsperience only one winner espciecially when u aint been past 3 rounds .and all the other losses came after ali when hed lost hid confidence

  • @NubzorK yea Tyson wimped out of a fight with George, there is an interview on youtube of geoge calling tyson out...

    Cus d'amato once told tyson when going through all the old reels of caytons collection ''no swarmer ever beats george forman, ever'' that stuck in mikes mind.

  • UN DIA COMO HOY 10 DE ENERO NACIO

    1949: George Foreman, boxeador estadounidense.

    (George Edward Foreman, (Texas, 10 de enero de 1949) es un ex-boxeador estadounidense, dos veces campeón del mundo en la categoría peso pesado. Apodado Big George se convirtió en un exitoso hombre de negocios y un reputado reverendo de su propia iglesia. La International Boxing Research Organization (IBRO) lo ha clasificado entre los 10 mejores pesos pesados de la historia.)

  • Young Foreman would have gotten Holyfield out of there in 3 rounds.

  • @vladiator100 i agree and holyfield was a bloody good fighter!

    apparantly when they fought holyfield took a shot from george and was sure hed knocked all his teeth out lol

    holyfield also knocked 7 shades out of george at 1 point throwing everything he had at him but george barely even moved! holyfield backed off because he was knackered and it just wasnt working lol

  • i wanna see young tyson kick wladimir klitschko asses...i wanna see young foreman kick david haye asses.....i wanna see young frazier kick nikolai valuev asses...i wanna see young ali kick vitali klitschko asses....this 5 boxers on their prime would destroy anybody on the heavyweight division today.....

  • Ali didn't beat Foreman, Zaire's climate did. Just going to throw that out there right now...

  • tyson would of took him outt

  • @randymac83 you obviously know nothing about boxing or this man. Casual fans have no business commenting about the science of fist fighting.

  • @vladiator100 "Ali got lucky" is maybe the biggest "duh." Where was the rematch? Even the '85 Bears lost once, but in boxing, a bad day is counted as as profound, forget that anybody competing in top-tier circuits could get nailed by another first-rate contender, statistically. Foreman proved it was just a bad day by coming back 10 years later and destroying everybody again (including an undefeated heavyweight champion.) Foreman = the greatest (and Tyson was literally afraid of him in 1989.)

  • and yeah Rap would of made me hate this video. thank you for putting Johnny Cash on here 00:47-00:54 almost made me cry for some reason

  • all right listen Ali is a good boxer not a good puncher Ali's whole thing was runaway and through the jab. Foreman is just the opposite a freight train of a puncher but wasnt really a good boxer and the greatest boxers are like Julio Cesar Chaves a great puncher and a great boxer

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  • He was definitely the most powerful no question about it!!!!!!!! He'll never get over that loss to Ali because he should have won easily but his arrogance and naivety cost him the fight and ultimately cost him the the chance to be remembered as the best ever!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Elbonio1 Very good point. He was naive going into the fight. Arrogant? Yeah maybe that as well but Ali had the kind of chin that even the big punchers needed to respect and Foreman perhaps didn't give that enough thought. Ali was never elusive like some would claim, a simple revisit to all his fights and counting the blows he took would dispel that myth. Unquestioningly though his chin was granite and his ability to recover from a hard punch was perhaps his greatest asset

  • If I had a penny for each pixel in this video, I'd have... A penny.

  • love the Johnny Cash selection on the music.... I would of gone for 'ain't no grave though'

  • Али, Форман, Фрейзер - отцы бокса

  • What Joe Frazer Did to Ali And What Forman did to Frazer afterwords was amazing

  • This video sucks.

  • @nahferals why coz its not rap music playing ? ... I think its a great video !

  • Iinsieme ad ALI' ha scritto la storia del pugilato!

  • Foreman el mejor peso pesado de la historia..."no pelees frente a el Michael " "cuídate de la derecha" concejos que Moorer no acató...

  • Damn. Muhammad Ali beat this guy when he was ontop of the world, at his peak. In his prime and Ali was classed as past it and he was old compared to other boxers and he out clevered yet another great boxing great to regain his world champion status for the 3rd time. Wow, this guy really was the greatest of all time. Must have took something special to beat this guy in his prime.

  • @MikeMJPMUNCH you forgot about Ali's last triumphant moment, winning the title again from Leon Spinks in '78, then he retired, Larry Holmes got the title, Ali came out of retirement in horrible shape to fight Holmes, got pummeled, then for some reason he fought again only to lose the decision to Berbick. Then he retired permanently. Then a couple years later Ali got to watch Mike Tyson beat the crap out of his old foe Trevor Berbick. ETC..

  • i hate wen retards comment on da klitschko videos sayin dat 70s boxers wud get killed in todays heavyweight division wen foreman knocked shit into dem in his late 40s

  • @captainjesusman Heavy weights back then were a different breed id give the worst heavy weights of the 70 s a good shot at any good heavyweight today even!

  • One of the reasons why Ali is the greatest of all time is because he bested a 25 year old prime Foreman who was destroying every fighter out there in wrecking ball fashion. Foreman was at the time the gold standard of ass kicking and what a powerful fighter meant. So Ali being older and past his prime, to still be able to KO Foreman put Ali ahead of the pack completely. What im saying is that Ali wouldn't be "Ali" without Foreman, because Foreman is one of the greatest ever, maybe #2 behind Ali.

  • @vladiator100

    ali isn't #1 and foreman isn't #2.

    ray robinson(by ali's own admission) is undoubtedly the greatest fighter to ever put on the gloves. that is fact. after that it's all conjecture, but i'd certainly put joe louis ahead of both of them as well.

  • @vladiator100 Far too simplistic. Foreman destroyed fighters that Ali lost to or had considerable difficulty beating. Maybe its just a question of styles. Personally I think that Foreman was out psyched in 74 and that kind of thing does happen usually to young fighters fighting experienced pros. I think Alis status is very very exaggerated but that is my opinion

  • @vladiator100 Where's Fraizer?

  • @Leggphone He's definitely up there. I don't know if I would rank him before Foreman. Frazier did lose twice against Ali and twice against Foreman himself..but I don't know you could say Frazier was a better fighter as reigning champion than Foreman. Its close I agree...he did beat Ali once, but would you rank him above Foreman when he lost twice to him and Ali himself?

  • @vladiator100 but forman did not win ali at all.. while frazier did..

  • @Leggphone Smokin joe frazier is my favourite fighter of all time, i dont think george was a better fighter, i just think styles make fights, and george had the perfect remedy to joe's amazing bob and weave (along with his left hook ranks as the best in history)

    -THAT uppercut, what a punch, to lift somebody weighing 205+ pounds off the floor when they are bent down?? amazing.

    Joe was a better fighter, also had the better win on his record (ali first loss) and reigned for longer, but 2 losses?

  • @cousinwes1 i understand your point but still it sound a bit absurd saying " frazier you are a better fighter but i did clean the ring with your body" foreman destroyed frazier twice, end of the history, so foreman is above frazier(another great fighter)

  • @cousinwes1 i agree, foreman had joes number, but joe is a better boxer, kinda like ali and norton. ali was a better fighter but norton made him look bad in every fight. im not saying norton is on foremans level but he had alis number even though ali is a better fighter

  • @messier991102 spot on although norton was a very very good boxer who i reckon would be world champ if he was around now. he just wasnt quite as good as ali frazier or foreman

  • @vladiator100 We need another George Foreman today to kill those Russian sisters.

  • @POLChelseaFC LOL

  • @POLChelseaFC Yes! vitali would have given him a real good battle, but wladimir would have got his teeth knocked out!

  • @cousinwes1 foreman would SMASH the klitchko brothers foreman was better technically than you think and had more power with every punch than anybody ever. thats why he still tearing guys apart in his 40s he was old and slow but could wade through punches due to his chin (was he ever put down during his 2nd career?) and when he did get you BOOM thats the end of that son

  • @vladiator100 Well i am too young to have watched those fights live, but i would have to completley agree that those were THE days alright.

    Ali was the greatest, just in front of joe louis. foreman has to be in the top 5, he was a complete monstrosity, a freak of nature, he could of competed at worlds strongest man no doubt at a high level.

    Hardest punching, strongest and most powerfull fighter of all time. long live big george!

  • @vladiator100 exfellent post and i agree 100% but dont forget frazier was awesome too

    ali frazier and foreman = 3 kings

  • Foreman seems to have a great chin. How come Ali who didn't have much power was able to KO him?

  • @averagejoe511 That was because Ali tired him up in africa with a heat greater than 40ºC. That's why

  • @averagejoe511 Ali had lots of power at this stage of his career but he only used it when he knew the man was ready , ali relyed on speed with a flick of power ... ali could defo hit hard but it wasn't his style to throw big haye maker punches

  • A true wrecking machine and probably one of the most powerful punchers in heavyweight boxing..

  • he has got a chin of fukin steel what a warrior, bow down to a true warrior ladies nd gentleman

  • stupid song, doesnt match this ??????????

  • @danielwormald yeah but foreman's a country boy, not to mention that he's a boring fighter - no style - i cud whoop his ass i tell ya

  • @danielwormald The video itself is not all that great . It shows mostly his win over Moorer and no clips of his fight with Lyle , probably the greatest heavyweight slugfest I've ever seen .

  • i play tenis but when i see foreman i see i find him inspiring and just knowing his story keeps me going when i get through hard times,his person i think should be a source of inspiration for any kind of sportsman no matter if they play football or tenis or any other sport.He's the greatest of all time for me.

  • i like angry foreman more

  • foreman has 70 plus fights and 60 plus of them are by KO....that is something spectacular .....and that his only KO loss was to Ali..

  • great video great music, very well put together

  • I wish George would come back and just clean out the Heavyweight Division, it's a joke right now.

  • i still love boxing n goerge yeah but we have to face the truthje boxing isnt the same as it was before BOXING IS DYING!!!

  • @jorge43273 People have been saying that since Dempsey retired... hell they've been saying it since they went from bareknuckle to gloved.

  • That was great!

    

  • That was great!

  • that moorer fight really looks like a fix,moorer was hit by a lot a guys without goin down like that,and look how he lifts head and looks up,then lays head back down again!!!

  • Happy Birthday, George Foreman!

  • david haye pisses over this guy

  • @SekoanHD

    David Haye isnt worthy of wiping Foremans ass

  • boxers are shit dude UFC RULES AND WOULD KICK ANY BOXERS ASS DUDE!

  • @ThaWomanizer boxers are fuckin tough as shit. takes a real fighter to be a boxer. yeah a boxer will most likely lose in a mma fight but if you put a mma fighter in a boxing match they will get fucked up as well. two diff sports dude

  • @nwo4lifedta316

    Wow finally someone gets it

  • @nwo4lifedta316 ur a fukn idiot mma is boxing

  • @jorge43273 no. in mma you wear 4oz gloves and can punch kick knee and grapple. in boxing you wear 8-10oz gloves and can only punch. You are the fucking idiot

  • @nwo4lifedta316 yeah but those glove r bigger n u could use some protetion with thata size in mma u cant n i got say your pretty sensitive......

  • @jorge43273 you dont even know what the hell your talkin about

  • @ThaWomanizer ....... You sir are an idiot... UFC is mma..... Any PURE striking sport boxing or not would have a hard time in a sport that usually ends up being more grappling than striking...

  • who is responsible for these lame ass tracks on all these badass videos?? i cant find a damn video worth downloading...

  • @Breakinankles99 If you want to see some badass boxing videos, try watching Reznick8's videos. His videos are so good that I actually subscribed to him.

  • Why was George not given a rematch against Ali? he would have destroyed him in a rematch... quite obvious at that. He just wouldn't have wasted his punches like he did in the rumble in the jungle. Ali got rematches with all the people he lost titles to (Norton, Frazier and Spinks) - oh so so unfair.

  • its sad that foemas Trainers was like Shit if foeman just had a Trainer like cus a amato .. this guy would be bigger ten ALI AND TYSON 4 REAL HES BIG TALL AND STRONG U WEL NEVER SEE A GUY LIKE HIM TRUST ME ON THAT NUFF SAID

  • it really pissis me off that Holyfild just stratet hitting foeman like a pouching Bag show sum respect plus his a old man.. And if foemman was just 35 or 38 HA IN THOSE DAYS HE WAS A KILLING MACINE EVEN IN HIS AGE 45 .. NOT EVEN TYSON CAN DO THAT!!!!!

  • Old is gold.........George foreman did the impossible where no athlete could have achieved..winning the heavyweight title at the age of 45, which he lost to muhd ali in zaire in 1974.....willpower and determination is george foreman

  • Great video

  • Great tribute Thanks

  • this a great highlight awesome job

  • personally, I'd be most afraid of Foreman's jab. His hooks and uppercuts would knock any of us the fuck out, so we wouldn't feel it until a few hours after we wake up. His jabs would just flatten our noses and send us reeling backwards a few feet, keeping us awake and in agony. I'd hate to be the attempted arresting officer for a drunk and disorderly George Foreman lol

  • foreman has the best chin ive ever seen in my life

  • @Dakashizzlenizzle

    Not as good as Ali

  • The sixties and seventies were such a brilliant time for heavyweight boxing.

  • Ali whooped his ass.

  • @narutodbzinuyashafan he got foreman in zaire....i believe that if ali would have took the second fight, foreman wouldve kod him...foreman played into alis game and the fight was also set up in alis favor.. big george wouldve layed him down the 2nd time around no doubt

  • Big Georges great man great boxer indide and outside the ring

  • @masterofcomedians Good post comedian. It wasn't funny what you wrote, but funny when you think about it. George did do it in the ring.

  • foreman would kill tyson before 5 rounds.

  • @jimmynablee OBSESSED BLIND UNIBROWED LITTLE FANBOY!!! BYE BYE PUNK!!! Work on your BIASED "combatesdeboxeo" account where you can only write your own stupid opinions!!! LMAO sad sad stinky little kid!

  • @jimmynablee Dont be silly!

  • If I should fight today with one of the 5 "champions forever"... With their age and physical condition, Ali, Frazier, Norton, or Holmes, I wouldn't be afraid. But versus Foreman, I will pray to survive.

  • He can whip those MMA chump even now

  • I totally agree with you, he would make look them like a joke

  • george needs to come back again and show everyone how fighting is done

  • @bretchet23 i heard he was training in his mid 50s and got his weight off but his wife went mad and told him to stop being daft lol

  • Are you better than that fat ass?

  • Best video on youtube

  • At 2:34 he is pulling a Wrangler on up-hill!

    W a fuck!

  • Foreman knew that when his opponent struck, he would eventually expose and opening. at that point all he needed to do was swing that hammer of a right hand

  • 2:09 who was he fighting there?

  • He's fighting Evander Holyfield.

  • Great choice of song for a Foreman vid..

  • best best video ! foreman the real champion

  • whats the name of this song??

    get back with me please

  • When the man comes around

    Song by Johnny Cash

  • I think Foreman's boxing story is one of the best ever. I don't know if it's better than Ali's, but it's a close call. It kind of depends on wich of them you like the most. I think Foreman really deserved to be heavyweight champion that last time, to get over his loss to Ali in Africa. Boxers were different back then, now its just crap.

  • @Scarzet Couldn't agree more. The big difference between Ali and Foreman is that Foreman made history inside the ring. Ali did that in and outside the ring.

  • @Scarzet thats the truth boxing now in the heavyweight class sucks ass

  • @Scarzet - Very close to being as good as Ali or maybe better! He achieved the impossible. When he made a comeback with his jelly 40 year old belly against a younger Cooney everybody was laughing and making it out to be the biggest joke in heavyweight boxing history. He proved everyone wrong including the experts..

  • @Scarzet Amen bro°

  • @Scarzet I like Foreman's story more, even though I think Ali was more famous in his prime.

    The reason I like Foreman's story more is because he made a GREAT comeback as an old boxer!

    Only VERY few manage that!

  • @Scarzet I believe Joe Frazier's better, but I like Muhammed, George and Joe all the same!

  • @eddie4ever6197 Frazier had more heart than any boxer at that time. Big George was more like the Mike Tyson of his time. :D

  • @Scarzet i would say that foreman has a more triumphant ending to his story than ali's did, ali's ending is more tragedy thats why the film ends with him beating foreman because after that it was all went down hill sadly.

  • I like Ali the best, but I also love Foreman. Imo Foreman is the hardest hitting boxer of all time. Foreman had the most power in his punches, Tyson had alot of punching power (not as good as Foreman), incredible dodging skill (not as good as Ali's of course..), and very good speed (not as good as Ali). So I think only Ali, maybe Tyson, and maybe Jack Johnson could have beaten Foreman in his prime. I just love to watch Foreman hitting the heavy bag, and his trainer trying yo hold on to it :D

  • tyson avioded foreman (big). i think it would have been a hell of a fight to watch tho!!!

  • man george foreman's story is probably the best in boxing history, wins the title 20 yrs after losing it thats like some real life rocky! but better

  • yeah i like Foreman better than ali

    but some people like ali better

    but even they would have 2 say Foreman has a way more epic story behind his career

  • George....awesome ring warrior

  • id say a prime foreman(when fought fraizer) he had more power than tyson..you can tell every hit of foreman hurts badly... and he can take it on the chin too!.. when foreman came back in 87 tyson ducked him a couple times.. foreman even at an age was hanging on with holyfield and in my book holyfield gots good ass punch and an even better chin... you decide..

  • More power Foreman but remember, Tyson most speed, more technique and almost the same power, you decide.

  • foreman more height.. iron chin.. wears tyson out and its all over lol .. i give tyson speed and power..

  • This was one of the greatest highlights of any mans career that I have ever seen. The use of Johnny Cash's song fits Foreman so well, as well as the actions in the video. 5*

  • who is the guy at 2:27 whoopin george?

  • ali dodged Big George for 3 years after winning the title. Even to the extent that ali would fight a japanese wrestler, rather than face George in a rematch.

  • Ali fought the fight of a lifetime, could never be duplicated. And he knew it.

  • this fite looked liek a fix,i know moorer cudnt take a shot,but this shot looke like nothing,and moorer didnt look liek he was really trying,see moorer fite with smokin bert cooper for a real serious performance

  • Sin palabras ante George Foreman. Excelente canción.

  • SI!

  • gr8 video and gr9 music to go wit it lol. 5 stars !

  • Great job on this one

  • ScottInVa1760. If muhammad ali would have had his dancing legs when he fought foreman, he would beat him ever more than he did...

  • Foremas was a warrior. Today I have a Good remember.  Big George you are the best. from Cali, Colombia.

  • My belief is had Foreman had the smarts and patience he showed in his "2nd career," he would never had lost to Ali. But, shoulda, woulda, coulda, I guess.

  • Yes i tell that to everyone and told that to George to(of course he was to polite to agree,ha ha).But like with Tyson's career it's coulda,shoulda,woulda ha ha.

  • so what if he didnt hav technique so what if he threw like a wild butcher he was very successful in boxing and is a legend of this sport

  • His career highlight is beating 2 times Fraizer!!! If he would not beat 2 times Fraizer he would not that known in world...

  • well he did beat frazier twice nd he is known as a great in the sport

  • Foreman is 1 of the best 20 heavyweight boxers og all time. But his not better then Lennox Lewis. His tecnique was low and his defence was not good either... LOL its funny where he punches like a wild butcher... :)

  • I love the fact that his last career fight was in the 00's, 4 decades of beat downs

  • Has anyone real boxing knowledge? I don't but I'm interested in it.

    my question: the boxing of the young Foreman doesn't look to professional in my eyes. He just swings like a strong guy, but a non-boxer. Anyone know why?

    The boxing of Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis and Morrison looks much more professional to me.

  • Foreman was straight power and used it to cut distance and corner his opponants much like liston only liston was better at it because he was a slightly better boxer than george but george was bigger and strong and had alot of heart.

  • LIke i said his tecnique and defence was never the best... Lennox Lewis would beat him... As Foreman says hisself that Lennox Lewis is the best Heavyweight Champ of all time...

  • Foreman was a butcher. And Lewis is not the best of all time. That's just your opinion, don't expect from everyone to have the same opinion like you. Jack Dempsey, Jack Johnson, Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, Ken Norton...how can you possibly know that Lennox is above them?

  • Honesty i cant say much about Jack Dempsey and Jack Jackson cause there is not around any clear videos where i can say wow this guys impress me. Sonny Liston was a good boxer and 1 of the most feared guys before Ali time. But he got KO VS Ali. Ali has much less power then Lewis.So u cant even compare Liston to Lewis. Norton was good too but far from Lewis.Ali,Louis,Marciano,Fraiz­er are the same level with Lewis...Ali & Louis would be the 2 guys who could may beat Lewis...

  • Dempsey and Johnson could put some serious ass-whoppin on Lennox Lewis. Ali and Joe Louis anyway. Frazier was a heavyweight who's style would frustrate Lewis... and talkin about athletism, no boxer is above Ken Norton ;)

    gigantic jab? --> Sonny Liston

  • Boy u talk so empty... Or ur age must be really betwenn 90-100 if u watched Dempsey and Jackson... Cause there is no clear videos at all where u can put ideas how they was exactly... I think mostly Americans put Lennox Lewis really down cause he destroyed all top American fighter from 90s!!! Loius would be beating Lewis 4 sure ??? Yea yea who got beated up by a 190 pounds guys??? Lewis would destroy ur Teddy Bar Bomber!!!

  • there are other video options than youtube...also articles, interviews etc...I know about Dempsey and Johnson (not Jackson)

    what americans? I'm not american, and what I think about people has nothing to with their nationality you nice boy

    and Joe Louis was about 205 pounds, could've easily go 220, what does it matter anyway, he was a tall heavyweight

  • Joe was tall for that time with his 6`2 as a 6`3 boxer was until end of 70s very very tall as thats why Foreman nickname was Big!!! But today 6`3 is a very normal size for heavyweight even 6`6 guys are alot!!! Todays generation is taller and the human beings getting bigger with time. Maybe after 30 or 50 years a 6`6 heaigh will be just avarage!!!

  • When you say that Norton was the most athletic, that is where you are wrong. that honor goes to Marciano.

    Ran 15 miles a day

    sparred 85 rounds a day

    hit the heavybag for 60 rounds a day

    that alone bring him to the top!

  • wow that's sick condition-athletism. But did Marciano have a life? lol

    tod bad his quickness wasn't anywhere near Ali's, Tyson's or Ken Norton's quickness. Not to mention the punches he would have to avoid against those three, most of the time Marciano dished out.

  • Marciano had decent quickness, but not very good still. Marciano did have a life, but he was very dedicated to boxing.

  • fites with ali looked like fixes,esp the 2nd one

  • Marciano and Fraizer are surely legends but i dont think they would beat Lewis down they too short and they weight was almost like a today cruiserweight boxer. Lewis would take both of them with his size,much longer reach,gigantic jab and finishing right hand and surely his great tecnique and athletism...

  • George Foreman is a real gentleman.

  • I don't like it when people use a humble statement by an athlete against him, like when he compliments a rival -- as if he is supposed to go around boasting that he's better than everyone else. I've never understood why people do this. If Foreman said nice things about other fighters, it doesn't somehow mean they were better than him. It probably means George is gracious, instead of the typical egomaniac in sports that we all know so well.

    Foreman is the most powerful fighter I've seen.

  • I agree to an extent but, just to clarify, Foreman was not Liston's rival. He was a sparring partner here and there for Liston. They never fought. If anything, Foreman more looked up to Liston than felt competitive towards him. Foreman had very few fights while Liston was even still active. If they had fought, it certainly wouldn't have been in either's prime but in Foreman's formative years and Liston's fading ones. Prime Liston Vs Prime Foreman would've been a whale of a fight though.

  • Yes, I didn't mean "rival" in that literal a sense (i.e. a contemporary opponent). I just meant another boxing great in history that one like GF would inevitably be compared to.

  • "just to clarify"....you dont know what your talking about.

  • To Godlikerich: With no disrespect to Liston as a fighter or your opinion, I'd pick prime Foreman over Prime Liston. Foreman's opinions sometimes are a little bit more generous than accurate, IMHO. e.g. He also has said that there's no doubt that Lennox Lewis is the greatest heavyweight champion of all time. I think Foreman exaggerates sometimes because a fighter is getting slammed or just not enough due credit and he goes to extremes the other way. I could be wrong, but do you know what I mean?

  • I know what you mean. Foreman does tend to overstate stuff. As I said in my previous comments saying that Liston would likely beat Foreman was perhaps too strong. I just believe that whatever happened Foreman would either lose or he would know know for damn sure he'd been in one hell of a fight if he won. To be fair to Foreman though if Liston won he too would have had one hell of a headache the next day.

  • I hear ya. Definitely a great fantasy fight.