Fu Zhensong longxing baguazhang combat applications

[krr65]

If you practice Bagua for years and are still weaker and slower than opponents, you should look at your training and practice more, stronger, and probably more correct. Serious Bagua practice (same way as serious Taijiquan) gives you a heck of body strength. The "only with the strength of the opponent" blabla was a marketing method to cater the hippie folks, a serious Bagua or Taijiquan practitioner is strong like a bull.

[peterwing]

plese write me the fuzhensong in chinese?thanks

[TanSauNg2008]

The techniques, used as they are presented here, work only if you are stronger and faster than the opponent.

But it is not always the case. So the usage of techniques here is not correct Bagua.

[asiaticus1]

This is right for a few techniques but not for all techniques.

[zero061192]

@TanSauNg2008 I disagree. Baguazhang is not aikido, really.

And STRENGTH and AGILITY is extremely important to a fight. Therefore, utilizing your strength and agility is the purpose of martial arts.

IMO, the basic principle of winning a fight is that you HAVE TO have the strength and/or agility not too different from your opponent. If you have that, and with the correct usage of techniques, you win.

Baguazhang: 1.Focusing on the speed/"cunningness"

2.Qigong-> improve your strength

Regards,

[czitek1]

principal like aikido

[zero061192]

@czitek1 Well, they both comes from Taoism :) moving in cicles

But Aikido focused on disabling an opponent without hurting him/her.

Baguazhang, the original purpose is to kill. In this video there are only baguazhang "wrestling techniques".

Classical baguazhang also includes various type of punching, stabbing with fingers into vulnerable organs, like kidney or the gonad (sure kill), dim-mak, dislocate/break bones. It's a very violent art o.0

[asiaticus1]

Ad ogni modo mi sono trovato diverse volte in vere risse.

ciao

Loriano

[asiaticus1]

Penso che tu abbia ragione. Però non scambiare qualche albero per la foresta, Queste non vogliono essere più che semplici tecniche per mostrare un loro uso, niente più. Effettivamente il combattimento ha una dimensione diversa. il che non significa che una singola tecnica non possa trovarvi il suo posto. Una cosa che rimprovero a molti maestri cinesi è infatti quello di offrire singole tecniche senza un contesto in cui applicarle.

cordiali saluti

Loriano

[ilvalla75]

sicuram non vi siete mai trovati ad affrontare una vera rissa. questa arte serve a dare una vana speranza ai deboli ma nella vita reale si rischiano tanti schiaffoni. mai visto nessuno che attacca con un pugnetto ai 2 all'ora e aspetta la tua risposta. guardate le risse su youtube e provate ad immaginare come applicare le mossettine, sareste calpestati..

[asiaticus1]

Thanks again

Loriano

[longo311275]

grande qualità di tecnica, complimenti!!!

[Scalier]

only thing that ponders me is the torso bending back when taking the attack; such evasion I've understood to be abomination for the internal arts.

[asiaticus1]

Really it is common, in internal as in external.

[gr8grfx]

It seems more "straight on" than a lot of Bagua I've seen...is this the style's trademark? It also reminds me a bit of Imperial Palace Bagua.

[asiaticus1]

Thanks gr8grfx. I know a little Imperial Palace BGZ but not so deeply to do comparisons. I feel, anyway, that the most important technique in BGZ, the more realistic one, is chuan zhang (penetrating palm) and, of course, danhuan zhang (see inside), naturally using circling when possible.

[asiaticus1]

For Daiboxer

excuse me for not answering. I did not think you were disrepfectul. I said: thank you very much!

For Jimi2406: I looked at your video and I find it really good. What I can say is: what a striking likeness between the applications in every Internal Martial Art!

asiaticus

[jimi2406]

great! its not easy to see some bagua in application..it shows that bagua really is one of the most dangerous and most complicated style....thanks for sharing with us...please have a look at my Chen Taiji Applications...and tell me what is right or wrong...

[keirnus]

nice video!

[DaiBoxer]

Not bad at all.

[asiaticus1]

thank you very much.

Loriano

[DaiBoxer]

Did not intend to sound demeaning or disrespectful. I meant to say very nice Bagua.

[monkfg]

This video shows a great form of partner training and it pretty much shows what I will do next. Your student kinda lacks confidence and his attacks are a bit slow and half hearted, but maybe you are simply that good and it's always hard to find a compromise between realism and the danger to hurt each other, which neither of you wants. So you can't attack at full speed and with full power, of course.

[scottydangerous]

I don't know any one in their right mind that would attack like that... Realism, if you want to implement a more "real" feel, Have the attacker throw a big right cross, followed by a barrage of flailing punches. That's reality.

[cloud0123]

Well these apps are useful for developing body method and sticky skills, not defending against flailing punches. That kind of skill has to be developed seperately.

[LeviathanAngel]

not bad...