The Douche Bag from Spider Web

[NelsonLeeds]

One of the best S101 videos! Simple and effective! Cheers guys!

[penguinboy360]

10th planet has the weirdest names for moves, but they are awesome moves!

[JungleScene]

I have a question im hoping can be answered...

Under mma rules, if you were to do a douchebag, would it be legal or would the ref consiter the foot on the face to be a kick to the head (especially when done quickly)...

how does this technique translate to mma and is it allowed?

[Charkoly2]

That does seem like a douche bag move lol

[TeslaSMTM]

This deifnately looks effective, and you would have to be a douche bag to do it. haha. Me personally would definately use it, but to do it to someone from my school, iono about that. Thanks for the help, you guys have really helped my submission grappling alot.

[donnycw13]

once u get the arm y do u need the leg

[theneenjah]

O.O Douche bag? Awwwwesome!

[jujitsu34]

All you haters are punks

[gmax876]

Bar fight submission

[Curatalo506]

Would this be aloud in grappling tournaments?

like Gracie?

[RyanZawicki]

Hey guys!! I was wondering, is this move a legal move in mma events or fights?

Also, iv had some arguments about this, is it illegal to choke somebody (with you in the mounted position) by simply applying your forearm to their neck and forcing it down? I realize the flaws with this tactic, but in terms of "legalness", i was curious.

[NelsonLeeds]

@RyanZawicki Different promotions will have different rules :).

[toddd04]

whats the point of grabbing his leg?

I would think having both arms pulling on his arm would be more powerful.

[william629]

As soon as you take the pressure off my face with your leg I'm going to turn into you before you can do the douche bag or anything else.

[msyms11]

worthy of the name

[diolade2002]

me likey

[mmamolina]

This is such a dick move lol I dig it. Seems pretty useful. I'm gonna try it out in practice 2mrow.

[xmanhockey7]

jerk-jitsu

[pipersmitty87]

isee why they call it that,

[EvanK1995]

good shit.

[G0DatC0D]

the douche bag hahahha nice name

[Simplymatt937]

Is This Legal In Amateur MMA Events?

[WBelmonteJr7]

O for sure, as long as youre not kicking them in the throat

[noobguitar001]

more than likely, no. they tend to frown on basically stepping on someones neck =P it just depends on what they specifically tell you.

[fallyfalbit]

Aptly named.

When you shoot it, is it necessary to wrap their leg? The motion seems too large to me, and the crossface looks like it would be able to set up the armbar alone.

[Clinto2011]

...of all the names it couldve been haha...nah good vids guys keep em comin

[Jester115867]

you guys fk'in rock this stuff helps me out alot cause im a slow learner

thnx guys keep up the good work

[ashtraydinner]

Hey, I bought both of Eddie's books, and watched most of the videos here.

I don't see anything on how to escape the spider web.

It's difficult to use many of the escapes I am familiar with from that position without freeing the leg first.

How would you recommend doing this?

[Tyberious369]

looks like a good technique, seems reliable and everything, but i hav eone queston has anyone ever done this during a tournament if so what was the response by the "officials" forget the guy ur fighting I want to know is it legal in a tournament or not ?????

[floysie21]

It is a pretty douche bag move

[damalldagood1srtaken]

Looks cool, I will definitely try it next time I am in this position. However, it does look as though the opponent has the oportunity to roll into you and escape when you bend your leg to place the foot. Can anyone comment on this? Thanks S101, you guys are awesome! Your vids are the most concise, easily accessed, and free. I plan to buy some gear just to support your cause.

[Submissions101]

I've had this done by Eddie himself and it sucks. The power of the foot on the face makes you release fast. Don't go slow when you attempt it.

Thanks for the kind words and future support! We appreciate it bro.

[MasterHatfield]

My question is i just goto the oppisite elbow and pull across and it releases the arm for the arm bar

[dan22778112arr1]

stinky foot? wow lol DOUCHE BAG!!!

[nzbjj]

I do it just so I can tell the person that I'm douche bagging them... It works really well but not really nice to use when rolling with your mates. Works like the lapel grab foot to the throat defence to a calf cush/heel hook... It's far more effective if you can cultivate a healthy crop of verucas on the sole of your foot first.

[SWGrappler]

This is very effective, even if the other guy's biceps are twice the size as yours, it wont matter much when he gets that foot on his throat :p

[brottarnacke]

Good self defense application.

[sigmacombatsystems]

Nice move, wish I'd know that when I was still training BJJ, it would've helped alot.

[huntyarra]

What's to stop him sitting up and coming through to guard when you take the pressure off the top leg?

he only has to knock that foot a short distance over his head to make the nesessary gap.

i can already see you tucking your other leg higher up his chest for the pin but will that really be enough to hold him?

[macaddict1980]

The top man has his left leg into the bottom mans armpit; keeping pressure on, and the top man has an underhook on the bottom mans right leg preventing him from rolling in.

At least, that's the what I'm seeing in the video that could stop the bottom guy from rolling in and up into the guard.

I could be wrong.

[b4dcoupon]

Much appreciated.

[Menof09]

Is this legal in bjj? Also since Eddie is starting 10th planet JJ tournaments I assume that the twister and the bolt lock and similar techniques will be legal in these tournaments because they usually are not in bjj

[TriangleJiuJitsu]

it's legal but frowned upon. be very careful to make it very clear that it is a push and not a kick. if you draw your leg back at all on this the ref will probably disqualify you.

[balletman]

Cool. Thanks for the improved angle, etc... that helps a lot.

[sdpadresfan]

class act.

[akaPnUtS]

my bad, i seen the other video from the *triangle* i think, this one is a little different , def. not as douche bag'ish as the frist :D good tech 5*

[akaPnUtS]

are these legal in mma tournaments...

that's why its caled the 'douche bag'

iduno if i have enuf balls to pull one of these off

[goblancas]

are the teen class age range 13 to 18?

[MasterHatfield]

Bro my question is why would you be in the spider web since I would just release the leg and goto the oppisite arm and then arm lock... Just let me know thanks my friends

[Submissions101]

I suggest picking up Eddie's books on the explanation and also seeing our videos of him talking about the spiderweb and why we attack this way. Should give you a clear understanding behind the reasons.

cheers!

[MasterHatfield]

Ari ok just seems like to much no need stuff heh. If used outsider firemans I might end up there for sec but then move to the finish.

[Submissions101]

This position is used in 10th Planet and BJJ and Sambo. One of the main reasons is to control the person while one their back. It prevents them from blasting to their knees. by controlling the upper and LOWER body, it gives you more control.

[MasterHatfield]

k thanks buddy.

Cheers back,

Ty

[SpideyFan6010]

How does this create an arm lock? They can just pull there hand free. Nothing is really keeping his hand in from escaping.

[wrathVchild]

man i love you guys. it's like my portal into sneaky moves i would otherwise never hear about. keep up the good work:)

[Shogun777]

ha! you're not the only one who feels this way!!!!

[Rejoyces]

ME TOO!

[mattgou]

Whats the name of the song in the beginning?

[Submissions101]

Slayed by overseer

[mattgou]

Thanks bro...These videos are so awesome. Cheers

[DQRADTEK]

well if u call some one a douch bag it is kinda bad.

same thing as an ass it is a donkey or the but and call some one that and they get offended.

or any word.

[vginawhisperer]

That's why I said, "But I suppose the subtext/implication is vulgar..."

[Submissions101]

Semantics really....

[vginawhisperer]

You know, "douche bag" isn't necessarily a bad/vulgar term. It's simply a feminine hygiene product. So I don't see a problem with your kids saying "douche bag."

But I suppose the subtext/implication is vulgar...

[diddyman4real]

imagine saying to someone, "I'm gonna pull a douche bag on this douche bag!" lol

[bmb7921]

nice vid

[cloudd92]

i dont understand why you need to hold the leg cant you just do the armbar???

[diddyman4real]

because theres more control holding the leg too. cradling the leg allows more control and lessens the chance of escape.

[greatblueherron]

it kinda hurts you neck too.

[Mike117]

besides the fact that it gives you more control it also gives you alot more leverage.

[10thPlanetDFW]

im 28 for 28 since i started counting last week. awesome sub.

My kids call it the D Bag:)

[Submissions101]

Brandon: You're a monster tho. I think you should just say to your opponents " I'm gonna pull the douche bag...you should just tap now."

My kids call it the D Bag as well...like they don't know ;-)

[cloudd92]

first......and nice vid

[DeltaSigChi4]

Real nice.

Good for the sport™.

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