Common misconceptions about islam, muslims and The Quran

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

I'll leave you to make a final post or three. It is apparent you have no knowledge of what you are striving to discuss, and you have been unable to provide any proof to support your claims.

Again, you cannot say you were not warned nor given reminder.

Enjoy this life. I believe you are among the lost. Surah 14:30, 17:102

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

"If there is a real Islam then that would be Shalom hence Peace not the forged counterfeit."

Those are your words.

Where are you getting the idea that 'Shalom' is the 'real Islam' and not a forgery if not based on the Bible.

Had you knowledge, you would know the 'Hebrew Bible', also called the Tanakh, is the 'Old Testament' of the collection of Books that comprise the Bible.

'Biblio' being the root word. :P

You have no idea what you are talking about. That much is clear. XD

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

You brought no proof of your claim. I am to believe you on your word alone when your first words were an attack on those who uphold belief?

You attack people because they do not believe as you do, when a peaceful, tolerant person would leave them alone to live their life as they choose. No one is attacking you, so why do you attack others for their beliefs? Why are you intolerant and hateful towards others not like you?

So much for your upholding good behavior. XD

Peace. :)

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

Invalidation and Insult are the rhetoric tools for those who have nothing to base their argument on.

I have clear proof the Quran was revealed by the One who was there at the creation of all things.

I have a pure, protected, error free Book revealed not to one specific nation, but to all beings.

How can I not believe when I stand upon a clear sign, while you bring... nothing to refute. :P

You made your choice. Enjoy this life. Surah 14:30

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

You continue to prove you do not know the Quran and you continue to not bring proof.

Explanation is not proof. Bring your proof.

We are witnesses: Surah 3:52, 9:122, 28:75, 22:78, 35:3-4,23, 36:1-4, 61:14

Helpers in Allah’s way (ansara Allahi): Surah 3:52, 61:14

Share knowledge of the Quran, do not hide it. Surah 2:283-284

Duty only to remind: Surah 6:69

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

Who is shown to bring proof to support what they believe?

Who is shown to bring conjecture, invalidation, and insult?

The one who lacks knowledge is the one who cannot bring proof.

Bring your proof. Explanation is not proof.

Remember your words when the chastisement comes. You cannot say you were not warned, nor given reminder.

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

Do not bring the Bible as a source if you do not want it scrutinized.

The Bible contains numerous additions of man along with the Truth, which shows how those who inherited the Books mishandled the revelations. That is why the Quran - pure, protected, and error-free - is proven to be a revelation from Allah; the One who was there at the beginning of all things.

You don't want to submit to Allah? Then don't. That's your choice.

Don't attack others for not being like you. XD

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

Allah will allow people to live their lives according to their choosing. He will send tests and chastisement to see if people will turn to Him, but in the End it is up to each person's choice that determines the path.

Those who see service to Allah as a prison only take their ego as a god. They too will know the Truth.

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

Strawman without proof. You rely on men telling you the Quran is not in order, but bring no proof from the Quran to support it.

You state you do not uphold any teachings. You have made your choice.

Questions do not equate proof. I recommend a refresher course on rhetoric so you understand that a rebuttal relies on evidence to refute, not conjecture and invalidation. :P

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

“We have not given them any Books to study, nor have We sent them before thee any warner.” Surah 34:44

You have no knowledge of what is in the Quran. XD

Toyou are your deeds, to me are mine. In the End we will know who is rightly guided, and who was led astray.

Won't we. :D

Explanation is not proof. Bring your proof.

I bid you 'Peace'.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

Everything has been addressed, you refuse to accept it.

You uphold teachings of man not authorized by Allah. That is your choice, and you will be called to account.

The Islamists uphold teachings not authorized by Allah, and they are chastised in this life and will be on the Hereafter.

Show me proof the Quran is not revealed in order. You make the claim. Prove it. :)

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

My obligation is only to remind and warn. You are welcome to laugh at me when I mention Judgment Day. But when that Day comes, you cannot say you were not warned.

You don't believe in the Hereafter, so your path has been set by your choice.

I have proof of our Creator. I have proof the Author of the Quran was there at the beginning of all things. He says there will be a Judgment Day, and I believe it.

All will know the Truth on that great and terrible Day.

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

Who is making this claim of order of revelation? Is it found in the Quran or is it taught by men?

If it's not in the Quran, why is it taught?

Do you see the trouble you get into by upholding stories instead of what is taught in the Book?

It's all a strawman argument that falls apart in the face of Truth.

If you are so patient and forgiving, why are you here attacking people for their beliefs?

You will be called to account for your deeds on the Day of Judgment.

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

We'll see who is in prison and who is free on the Day of Judgment, won't we. :)

"It belongs not to any mortal that God should give him the Book, the Judgment, the Prophethood, then he should say to men, 'Be you servants to me apart from God.' Rather, 'Be you scholars (rabbaniyyeena)in that you know the Book, and in that you study.'" Surah 3:79

Allah gives every person the right to be a scholar.

You cannot say you were not warned nor given reminder.

Bring your proof.

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

Where is your proof it is collected in the 'wrong order'? Because you cannot understand it? :P

Insincere readers are diverted from the meaning of the Quran: Surah 7:146, 17:45-47, 18:57, 41:44, 39:23

You have never read the Quran so you don't know what is in the Quran.

You know what errors, contradictions, and fabrications look like because the Bible is full of them. So show an error, a contradiction, a fabrication in the Quran.

You cannot. :)

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

The person who brings proof - evidence -that supports their position are the ones who win debates. So far you don't bring anything except fear and propaganda based on conjecture.

Again, you have no idea who I am and you attempt to strawman by placing me with the followers of hadith. Allah never authorized following anything but what He revealed. So if you want to condemn the deen, return to the Book: The Quran. Show proof it is errant. Show proof it comes from man.

You cannot.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube,

You have brought nothing but invalidation and insult, which proves you have no evidence to support your beliefs. You have never read the Quran, so you cannot say you know what is inside of it. You have never delved into the beliefs of the sectarians: the Sunnis, Salafis, Shias, Wahhabis, etc. So how do you know what a Muslim - one who follows only what Allah revealed - believes much less what the enemies of Al-Islam believe?

Answer: You don't. :P

Peace.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

You have no idea who you are speaking to, much less what the deen of Al-Islam is about. You have never read the Quran.

The religion of man called 'Islam' followed by 'Islamists' is not what is taught in the Quran. Those who dub themselves 'Sunni' or 'Shia', or any other sect deviate from the Truth. They will be called to account for their deeds.

You are more than welcome to believe whatever you choose. But don't expect anyone to believe you when you provide no proof. :)

Peace.

[Surah72]

Anyone can say 'This was made up!'

If you believe it came from any other but Allah, show an error. There are numerous errors in the Bible for a point of reference. So show an error/contradiction/lie and prove it came from man.

If you believe they are made up stories, then you have issues in content to deal with. The story of Joseph (pbuh) contains details the Bible does not, as well as historical accuracy the Bible lacks.

When you follow the Truth, you are freed from the prison of this world.

[Surah72]

@IdriusUtube

I have used my brain. I don't believe without proof. I have proof of our Creator, that He was there at the beginning of all things, and He is the Author of the Quran.

You say you have all the 'knowledge' you need, yet here you are striving to discredit without bringing any proof, while aggressing against people who do not believe as you do.

So that is the way of 'peace' in your eyes? I'll pass on what you believe and uphold Truth.

Enjoy this life. Surah 14:30

Peace. :)

[Surah72]

"Say: 'My Lord has only forbidden indecencies, the inward and the outward, and sin, and unjust insolence, and that you associate with God that for which He sent down never authority, and that you say concerning God such as you know not." Surah 7:33

If it isn't forbidden, it is allowed.

You can believe what you hear from Mainstream Media, or you can check it out yourself.

Take the blue pill or take the red pill. Your choice.

Peace.

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