great comments and great video on here. I agree wiht this.. When I was in Japan I started picking up on that, too, when talking to my adopted Oneesan while I was there.. every two seconds "ne".."ne".."ne... while I'm sitting here thinks.. "omg is she nervous? or overly excited to be having this conversation..or she says 'ne' so much maybe she isn't breathing? Is she breathing? She's not starting to hyperventillate is she?"... lol It really is distracting, like u said.
Alright man... I've seen yor videos are good... So I'd like you to help me with that one... Sorry if I haven't seen enough but, I'll try to help it, right?... ^^'
So... whatever... What's up with janakute and KAnakute..? (届かなくて) xD
This vid is very interesting. Actually, since the time I begun learning japanese, watching some japanese vids on youtube, listening to lessons, I myself have also noticed that I tend to nod and "acknowledge" other person's speaking by "uhm", "yeah" and so on much more often. It's funny, because I just learned it while learning japanese. Of course they say here and there that "active hearing" is crucial in conversation, so it is a change in plus, I hope ;)
I think I do this myself quite often, not sure where I would've picked it up, either from Japanese people, or from growing up in Hawaii, though I'd have to consciously see if it occurs more there next time I visit my family (since Hawaii is a very Japanese dominated place, even if a lot of the local Japanese do not speak Japanese much, if at all).
Btw, I really like your decor, especially the Koi(?)!
good stuff. I tell students this all the time, but I never heard anyone else say this. I'm glad I'm not crazy. You probably know this, but the pause after Japanese finish talking is a good one too. When A-san finishes talking B-san always waits or pauses. This is "間 or ma which means space is important. English speakers don't pause. This is often the number one reason Westerners come off as chatty to Japanese. Japanese are waiting for the "MA", but it rarely comes.
Fantastic video! This is a point of the language I never noticed. It is a very important part of the language to know the flow, and how things work.
See, in America it is very rude to constantly interrupt, yet in the middle east (I speak Arabic and Persian) they interrupt CONSTANTLY and it is considered a natural flow. Yet, verbal acknowledgments every few seconds are considered rude. "If you have something to say, say it." as they would say.
This really helps one attempt to assimilate, kudos.
Oh yeah, I forgot about the vocal nods. A friend of mine in Tokyo does that even though he's an English speaker (half Japanese, half American, educated in Japan at an American school) . WHen we speak on the phone he keeps asking me "did you hear that, are you listening, are you still there". It took me a couple of conversations to realize that the lack of vocal nods was the issue.
Vocal nods - that's a good term for it! Yeah, Japanese get really put out if you don't keep affirming that you are listening - it takes some getting used to.
I notice when my husband (Japanese) is taking with his dad he always says 'ん' or 'はい' alot, but even more so when he's taking with a future employer or a stranger. He even bows while over the phone! I first thought it was a little strange, but now I'm getting quite use to it....because I do it as well! 笑!!
Apart from the main point, I thought this was also a very good point: "Vocabulary and grammar will come quicker when people have higher expectations of you."
Haha, I know the feeling! I often have to kick myself when I am talking to gaijin friends when I realize I am over-acknowledging... But it's funny the other way around too. Once my wife was telling me about her day in Japanese over dinner. I was sitting there quietly listening to her intently when all of a sudden mid-sentence, she starts waving and shouting "HELLO???" at me. It can be a bit weird, but those "hai, hai, hai"s are very important! ;D
Damn that's so true! When talking to my japaense friends, they keep asking "e? are you listening?" because I don't say anything and tend to look at many different directions. :D But my fav is when Yuki (yes, stolen from flakeman) gives that " :O" look and goes "e? what's wrong? did I say something weird? hmm? hmm?" so fast it makes me laugh every time. :D so I sometimes make those small nods when she looks at me. :D
Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai .
What happens if you say it too much though? I that possible?
great comments and great video on here. I agree wiht this.. When I was in Japan I started picking up on that, too, when talking to my adopted Oneesan while I was there.. every two seconds "ne".."ne".."ne... while I'm sitting here thinks.. "omg is she nervous? or overly excited to be having this conversation..or she says 'ne' so much maybe she isn't breathing? Is she breathing? She's not starting to hyperventillate is she?"... lol It really is distracting, like u said.
Eloaene 1 month ago
Good Observation
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mostupdate 1 year ago
Alright man... I've seen yor videos are good... So I'd like you to help me with that one... Sorry if I haven't seen enough but, I'll try to help it, right?... ^^'
So... whatever... What's up with janakute and KAnakute..? (届かなくて) xD
BoostedBlack 2 years ago
Another good tip from Hiko. Good stuff!
novanine 2 years ago
no wonder when your talking to japanese there always saying yeah when someone is talking or going nnn
sahanoel 2 years ago
i always nod my head when someone is talking to me like evry three sec lol so i guess i should be fine :3
sahanoel 2 years ago
This vid is very interesting. Actually, since the time I begun learning japanese, watching some japanese vids on youtube, listening to lessons, I myself have also noticed that I tend to nod and "acknowledge" other person's speaking by "uhm", "yeah" and so on much more often. It's funny, because I just learned it while learning japanese. Of course they say here and there that "active hearing" is crucial in conversation, so it is a change in plus, I hope ;)
soromon29 2 years ago
I think I do this myself quite often, not sure where I would've picked it up, either from Japanese people, or from growing up in Hawaii, though I'd have to consciously see if it occurs more there next time I visit my family (since Hawaii is a very Japanese dominated place, even if a lot of the local Japanese do not speak Japanese much, if at all).
Btw, I really like your decor, especially the Koi(?)!
wehrmanj 2 years ago
I think your first advice is useful in every language! :D
I've noticed the many affirmations too, but I thought they were just nervous!!
finapon 2 years ago
never really noticed before.I thought they ask(Yes?or No?)too quickly.hey,give me some more limits!Im thinking.hahaha.
as for MA,dont think,feel it,really.look at him and after that,just wait until he starts talking.thats all you got to do.very simple.
kenichisaitohchenii 2 years ago
good stuff. I tell students this all the time, but I never heard anyone else say this. I'm glad I'm not crazy. You probably know this, but the pause after Japanese finish talking is a good one too. When A-san finishes talking B-san always waits or pauses. This is "間 or ma which means space is important. English speakers don't pause. This is often the number one reason Westerners come off as chatty to Japanese. Japanese are waiting for the "MA", but it rarely comes.
kawi33 2 years ago
This was a very interesting lesson, it takes a look at the language that I had not previously seen, very cool.
XxDarkDiazxX 2 years ago 2
Fantastic video! This is a point of the language I never noticed. It is a very important part of the language to know the flow, and how things work.
See, in America it is very rude to constantly interrupt, yet in the middle east (I speak Arabic and Persian) they interrupt CONSTANTLY and it is considered a natural flow. Yet, verbal acknowledgments every few seconds are considered rude. "If you have something to say, say it." as they would say.
This really helps one attempt to assimilate, kudos.
MydLyfeCrysis 2 years ago 2
Oh yeah, I forgot about the vocal nods. A friend of mine in Tokyo does that even though he's an English speaker (half Japanese, half American, educated in Japan at an American school) . WHen we speak on the phone he keeps asking me "did you hear that, are you listening, are you still there". It took me a couple of conversations to realize that the lack of vocal nods was the issue.
aussielung 2 years ago
Vocal nods - that's a good term for it! Yeah, Japanese get really put out if you don't keep affirming that you are listening - it takes some getting used to.
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago
good observations =]
systemjap 2 years ago
I remember that happening when I was in Japan. A student was telling the teacher something, and he'd go "Un, sou sou sou" and be nodding along.
JessicaHalo 2 years ago
Hai! Hai! So desu ne!
MVHH
HarriHaffi 2 years ago
Nice look at the language, thanks~
Ido013 2 years ago
Really interesting lessons !
AjikanPanda 2 years ago
I notice when my husband (Japanese) is taking with his dad he always says 'ん' or 'はい' alot, but even more so when he's taking with a future employer or a stranger. He even bows while over the phone! I first thought it was a little strange, but now I'm getting quite use to it....because I do it as well! 笑!!
Anyway, good points!!~~*
refreshNhappy 2 years ago 2
if that's a samsung t220HD (or t220), I must give props for I am using a t220HD as well. Oh, and very informative video btw!
Tesfaldet 2 years ago
Apart from the main point, I thought this was also a very good point: "Vocabulary and grammar will come quicker when people have higher expectations of you."
73elephants 2 years ago
Great job analyzing the frequency!
It's hard enough to feel the rhythm, but to analyze it and share with people is a whole different story. Right on~
ToLokyo 2 years ago
Thank you for the advice,Im gonna start faking right now :0)
Congrats to hikosaemon he's a very good teacher :)
denitson777 2 years ago 2
Very true.
CanadianInJapan 2 years ago
that was intresting. good. ありがとう。
atkinsonja 2 years ago 4
wow.....no wonder my host sister got mad at me when i was talking to her on the phone when i was in japan LOL.
draggt03 2 years ago
Thanks man! I already knew this, but this is the stuff you don't get to see in books.
TheDutchGaijin 2 years ago
I love these videos, thanks alot for making them!
Makes me seem a little less of a moron x)
eirinbe 2 years ago 3
はい、そうだね。 分かりました、大変有用でした。
ありがとう御座いました。
Yeah I know, loads of mistakes, but I feel obliged to try :o)
This is both quite obvious, now that you point it out, and really helpful. Cheers Hiko!
acromel 2 years ago 2
Haha, I know the feeling! I often have to kick myself when I am talking to gaijin friends when I realize I am over-acknowledging... But it's funny the other way around too. Once my wife was telling me about her day in Japanese over dinner. I was sitting there quietly listening to her intently when all of a sudden mid-sentence, she starts waving and shouting "HELLO???" at me. It can be a bit weird, but those "hai, hai, hai"s are very important! ;D
Peace
Hikosaemon 2 years ago 2
Damn that's so true! When talking to my japaense friends, they keep asking "e? are you listening?" because I don't say anything and tend to look at many different directions. :D But my fav is when Yuki (yes, stolen from flakeman) gives that " :O" look and goes "e? what's wrong? did I say something weird? hmm? hmm?" so fast it makes me laugh every time. :D so I sometimes make those small nods when she looks at me. :D
kageromaru 2 years ago
Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai Hai hai .
What happens if you say it too much though? I that possible?
Thanks for the vid ;] *subs*
AtreyuTron 2 years ago