I built the bare bone set up I used a MPS2222A- NPN transistor 1k Ohm resistor, a yellow trigger transformer. As far as the LED I used the one from the camera board the diodes are 1N4004 I soldered all connections just to make tight connections. I didnt get a voltage and basically the transistor just got hot. Do you have any suggestions? I really want to go further with this SEC setup! Thanks
Hi drstrnglov.The connections for your trigger coil may be different to mine so it is best to build the circuit in a way that you can easily swap things about.The three things that i would suggest is first remove the 1k resistor or change it to 1 ohm.1k is to big for a current measuring resistor.Check the data sheet for your transistor to make sure it is connected ok.Check that the transistor is ok as it should not heat up and may be broke.Try swapping the connection for the trigger coil.Jonny
i cant get my sec circuit to work i used a plastic 2n2222a transistor l and i did try a metal one but it dident work for me iether is the clear led in the receiver a low voltage one what are the details of it
Hi steven.The Led is a blue 3.2V 10000mcd.Have you got a reading on your amp meter?If you do what is it?Also try reversing the + in and collector connections on the trigger transformer.You can test your av plug detector with a plasma globe if you have one.Jonny
my trigger coil didn't worked at start and i just inverted the top with the bottom wire,so it lighting up now flicker flame bulbs, cfl, led with 1 wire, basically everything ,and i used an sec exciter mini tower and inside of it it it's really cool, and btw put some watter inside those tins and after that you put an cfl to just touch the watter and 1 wire and it works :D ,thanks a lot Jonny :)
Hi ciprianwiner.That is great news and good info.Welcome to the world of wireless energy and thanks for trying the circuit and letting me know how you got on.Cheers and happy experimenting.Jonny.
@jonnydavro - this is amazing. Did Spock teach you this? McGiver would be so jealous! :P Seriously though... thank you, for all your hard work to make something so simple that helps get a person's feet wet.
Energy sources without the need for fuel or energy input exist ,But the powerfull Oil business won't alow common ppl to know this,Find a motor that needs no fuel or input at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Be the revolution!
i wanted to mention i thought it was interesting how i could basically do the one wire lighting of the led's from basically anywhere on the circuit, so as far as one wire lighting, one could just run a lead from one of the battery terminals to anywhere they wanted, and the lead would light something if given external ground. far as the plugs, i cant get them to light very noticeably without grounding them near the tins. also the plugs dont seem to be necessary either, or are they like FWBR's?
@Magneticitist Hi.The whole circuit is at a high potential as you have found out and i have long said that the virtual ground is important for best results and the av plug is basically a half wave rectifier and my av detector lights a led at 1.5m.Thanks for the update and happy experimenting.Jonny
i tried to make my own trigger transformer, but im still trying to figure out how to connect the ends of the coil, cause i have 4 leads on my transformer, and in yr vid u have 3, do the primary end connect to the secondary end off the coil ?
Hi. If your camera trigger coil has 4 pins,1 will be unused and easily found as there will be no continuity between it and any other pin whilst the three pins we need will all be connected to each other.Use your multimeter on ohms to check but the output pin is easily found as it is usualy on the top.If you want to make your own trigger transformer,here is a good guide
h t t p://members.misty.com/don/trigcoil.h t m l Remove the spaces at start and end of link.Great to here from you JB..Jonny
Hmm. Tried 2 different TT from different cameras. Both start circulating when hands on trays but it does not oscillate when i remove hands. Used 2n2222 and 3904 and get same result. Has to be these trigger transformers.
thanks alot for the how-to. i probably wouldn't have attempted it if it wasnt for the easy step by step. almost gave up at first and ended up reversing my C and E and it worked. cool stuff. im using a 2n4403 and big turkey baking tins. i noticed the better grounded the Base tin the better the output tin receives. it also directly likes LEDs nicely with one wire. next step is working on some type of portable LED lamp i can move around within a reasonable radius.
@Magneticitist .Welcome to the wacky world of wireless energy.I hope you find this interesting and have as much fun as i have with these simple circuits..Jonny.
I have an oscillating motor bifolar coils alligator clips potentiometer and I've just added my trigger transformer I. Used 2 diodes and a small light bulb to it with some bifolar wire on them I am not get any signals whatsoever I am not using a bread board but just a regular wires what do I do what is so signifant about the tin bowls can I use aluminum pans to as well
@bclinto83 Hi The tins are needed in the config in the vid as one is acting as the transmiting ariel and one the recieving ariel which is needed to get the transistor to oscillate.You can use ali pans if you want or just two wires but I am not to sure what your setup is but if you do it like i show you should get some results and then experiment from there.Jonny.
Excellent thanks! Exactly what disposable camera or any disposable camera? Im assuming the trigger trans. is needed for the flash unit of the disposable camera?
Hi zintoit.Pretty much any camera trigger coil will work.You are right in thinking they are for the flash.The one in the vid is a cheap £1 job but i have also tried a fuji.The important thing is to de-solder it carefully using a solder sucker so you don't damage it and then follow the vid.Good luck and thanks for the comment.Jonny
@jonnydavro Hi jonny.. thanks for the reply.. I just tried this using 3 trigger coils for strobe lights to no avail. (ouch that smarts).. well actually i was able to get a current flowing when I touched the pots but current dissapeared when released and no light up from the avramenko plug. Anyway, Im definitely going to try a disposable camera trigger coil. The trigger coil is (evidently) critical.. Have any triggers coils handy u could send me?
@zintoit Hi.I normally use 4kv strobe trigger coils and they work great..I would send you one no problem but your in mexico and im in the uk so it would be easier and quicker to strip a camera.Try cliping your avramenko plug to the output pan and move the base pan closer to the output pan and see if that will work.Also if using a breadboard,try some different holes as you may have a dicky connection and it is important to use a small signal transistor like a 2n2222,mpsa06,bc182 etc. Jonny
@jonnydavro Hi Jonny... SUCCESS! HAPPY JUMPIN GEZUZ! stripped a FUJI like you said (fried a kodak tt trying to get it off the board). OK.. ok.. so the ball is rolling. I called my GF and she wasnt impressed.. like it didnt knock her socks off.. (she said.. oh isnt that nice) and I said (uh yeah.. its nice, gee look at the time.. well gotta go now sweety) LOL.
now... how to get the the led to light up without touching. THANKS A HEAP JONNY.. AND THANKS TO STIFFY TOO.
Hi Jonny great work your doing here !!! , I have bought some parts for a replication , one question I bought a trigger transformer as I couldn't find a camera and it's yellow , it has on skinny wire and one thick wire on the bottom and a thick wire on the top will this work , also any hints asto what the skinny wire should hook to ?
@robbosdog Try the skinny wire on the output pan and connect the other two to batt positive and collector,if no luck,reverse these last two connections or try a camera coil .Good luck.Jonny
Hi alex.If using a camera trigger coil,this will be connected to the flash bulb.The lead connected to the bulb is the HV output and is usually on top of the coil.The other two leads are on the bottom and check for continuity between two pins as there will be more than two and if it dosen't work,just reverse these connections.Don't confuse the trigger coil with the hv transformer.This has thick and thin wire and is not used in this circuit.jonny.
Johnnydavro, thanks 4 ur answers. I just received an 18-x kit and will begin testing soon. I will scope the various signals I asked about and comment them to all. I don't have a camera yet Plz tell me what I need to supply a video and audio upload. Once again thx 4 your good work and unselfishness.
Hi BDDFOUR.I use my mobile phone,nokia n95 with 8gig memory card as most modern phones now have a good vid camera but you need a fair bit of memory.Not to sure in a standalone camera.Happy experimenting and i look forward to your tests.Regards jonny
Hi BDDFOUR.The leds are very bright and the brightness exceeds a test led to the extent that you can actually damage your eyes and i am only using 8000mcd leds and they are far to bright to look at.Regarding voltage.High voltage appears at every point on this circuit ie Base,collector,emitter and flows back to the battary on both rails and from a 1.5v battery powered phone charger it is around 170v measured via an avramenko plug..Regarding frequency,i don't have a scope but another
Jonny--This might be one of the best videos you have ever done ----and maybe the most important. Many people will probably try this now and it will just help further the research. New people can do this who knows where that might lead. Thanks
Thankyou Lidmotor.I hope this does encourage people to try electronics and this whole SEC project is such an interesting thing to be involved with and it is an exciting place for people to start and its a shame when people can't or are afraid to try something as they think it is to complex but when you slow it and break it down,it is relativly easy to follow whats going on so hopfully,fingers crossed we may see some new faces and with them new ideas.Thankyou.jonny.
Hi pkrska.The SEC has many uses and plenty more,yet to be discovered.A few things it can do is wireless energy transmision,one wire energy transmision,battery charging,electrolysis,the list is quite extensive and Dr Stiffler who discovered the SEC phenomona releases new discoveries regulary which are quite frankly mind blowing,well to me anyway.If you want to learn more about it search utube for,MRH202 (Dr Stiffler),Lidmotor,gbluer,inquorate and there are plenty more.Hope this helps.Jonny
Johny, Wonderful! Clear explanations like this is what I am always searching for. People like you and Lidmotor certainly help people lik me to get excited about building these wild and wonderful devices. Keep up the great work. I finally understand what an Avrimenko plug is!
Hi Jack.The avramenko plug is quite a mystery to most people and its construction is not to well documented and it is such a useful circuit and can be used on quite a few of the things you are doing so i am glad i may of helped.Many thanks.jonny.
Thanks Bill.i have had lots of people asking about this circuit and although it is simple,it is only simple if you now how so hopefuly this will help a lot of people and also encourage new people to try electronics as a hobby.many thanks.jonny.
I built the bare bone set up I used a MPS2222A- NPN transistor 1k Ohm resistor, a yellow trigger transformer. As far as the LED I used the one from the camera board the diodes are 1N4004 I soldered all connections just to make tight connections. I didnt get a voltage and basically the transistor just got hot. Do you have any suggestions? I really want to go further with this SEC setup! Thanks
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Hi drstrnglov.The connections for your trigger coil may be different to mine so it is best to build the circuit in a way that you can easily swap things about.The three things that i would suggest is first remove the 1k resistor or change it to 1 ohm.1k is to big for a current measuring resistor.Check the data sheet for your transistor to make sure it is connected ok.Check that the transistor is ok as it should not heat up and may be broke.Try swapping the connection for the trigger coil.Jonny
jonnydavro 5 months ago
wtf are you saying omg ur so hi tec holly shit
HipHopRapbass 5 months ago
i cant get my sec circuit to work i used a plastic 2n2222a transistor l and i did try a metal one but it dident work for me iether is the clear led in the receiver a low voltage one what are the details of it
stevenchiverton 10 months ago
Hi steven.The Led is a blue 3.2V 10000mcd.Have you got a reading on your amp meter?If you do what is it?Also try reversing the + in and collector connections on the trigger transformer.You can test your av plug detector with a plasma globe if you have one.Jonny
jonnydavro 10 months ago
my trigger coil didn't worked at start and i just inverted the top with the bottom wire,so it lighting up now flicker flame bulbs, cfl, led with 1 wire, basically everything ,and i used an sec exciter mini tower and inside of it it it's really cool, and btw put some watter inside those tins and after that you put an cfl to just touch the watter and 1 wire and it works :D ,thanks a lot Jonny :)
ciprianwiner 11 months ago
Hi ciprianwiner.That is great news and good info.Welcome to the world of wireless energy and thanks for trying the circuit and letting me know how you got on.Cheers and happy experimenting.Jonny.
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KyleCarrington 1 year ago
@jonnydavro - this is amazing. Did Spock teach you this? McGiver would be so jealous! :P Seriously though... thank you, for all your hard work to make something so simple that helps get a person's feet wet.
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Energy sources without the need for fuel or energy input exist ,But the powerfull Oil business won't alow common ppl to know this,Find a motor that needs no fuel or input at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Be the revolution!
polysemousncrk 1 year ago
i wanted to mention i thought it was interesting how i could basically do the one wire lighting of the led's from basically anywhere on the circuit, so as far as one wire lighting, one could just run a lead from one of the battery terminals to anywhere they wanted, and the lead would light something if given external ground. far as the plugs, i cant get them to light very noticeably without grounding them near the tins. also the plugs dont seem to be necessary either, or are they like FWBR's?
Magneticitist 1 year ago
@Magneticitist Hi.The whole circuit is at a high potential as you have found out and i have long said that the virtual ground is important for best results and the av plug is basically a half wave rectifier and my av detector lights a led at 1.5m.Thanks for the update and happy experimenting.Jonny
jonnydavro 1 year ago
Hi JohnnyDavro,
i tried to make my own trigger transformer, but im still trying to figure out how to connect the ends of the coil, cause i have 4 leads on my transformer, and in yr vid u have 3, do the primary end connect to the secondary end off the coil ?
Kind regards
JB
JohnnBlade 1 year ago
Hi. If your camera trigger coil has 4 pins,1 will be unused and easily found as there will be no continuity between it and any other pin whilst the three pins we need will all be connected to each other.Use your multimeter on ohms to check but the output pin is easily found as it is usualy on the top.If you want to make your own trigger transformer,here is a good guide
h t t p://members.misty.com/don/trigcoil.h t m l Remove the spaces at start and end of link.Great to here from you JB..Jonny
jonnydavro 1 year ago
Hmm. Tried 2 different TT from different cameras. Both start circulating when hands on trays but it does not oscillate when i remove hands. Used 2n2222 and 3904 and get same result. Has to be these trigger transformers.
Br0kenMan 1 year ago
thanks alot for the how-to. i probably wouldn't have attempted it if it wasnt for the easy step by step. almost gave up at first and ended up reversing my C and E and it worked. cool stuff. im using a 2n4403 and big turkey baking tins. i noticed the better grounded the Base tin the better the output tin receives. it also directly likes LEDs nicely with one wire. next step is working on some type of portable LED lamp i can move around within a reasonable radius.
Magneticitist 1 year ago
@Magneticitist .Welcome to the wacky world of wireless energy.I hope you find this interesting and have as much fun as i have with these simple circuits..Jonny.
jonnydavro 1 year ago
I have an oscillating motor bifolar coils alligator clips potentiometer and I've just added my trigger transformer I. Used 2 diodes and a small light bulb to it with some bifolar wire on them I am not get any signals whatsoever I am not using a bread board but just a regular wires what do I do what is so signifant about the tin bowls can I use aluminum pans to as well
bclinto83 1 year ago
@bclinto83 Hi The tins are needed in the config in the vid as one is acting as the transmiting ariel and one the recieving ariel which is needed to get the transistor to oscillate.You can use ali pans if you want or just two wires but I am not to sure what your setup is but if you do it like i show you should get some results and then experiment from there.Jonny.
jonnydavro 1 year ago
Excellent thanks! Exactly what disposable camera or any disposable camera? Im assuming the trigger trans. is needed for the flash unit of the disposable camera?
zintoit 1 year ago
Hi zintoit.Pretty much any camera trigger coil will work.You are right in thinking they are for the flash.The one in the vid is a cheap £1 job but i have also tried a fuji.The important thing is to de-solder it carefully using a solder sucker so you don't damage it and then follow the vid.Good luck and thanks for the comment.Jonny
jonnydavro 1 year ago
@jonnydavro Hi jonny.. thanks for the reply.. I just tried this using 3 trigger coils for strobe lights to no avail. (ouch that smarts).. well actually i was able to get a current flowing when I touched the pots but current dissapeared when released and no light up from the avramenko plug. Anyway, Im definitely going to try a disposable camera trigger coil. The trigger coil is (evidently) critical.. Have any triggers coils handy u could send me?
zintoit 1 year ago
@zintoit Hi.I normally use 4kv strobe trigger coils and they work great..I would send you one no problem but your in mexico and im in the uk so it would be easier and quicker to strip a camera.Try cliping your avramenko plug to the output pan and move the base pan closer to the output pan and see if that will work.Also if using a breadboard,try some different holes as you may have a dicky connection and it is important to use a small signal transistor like a 2n2222,mpsa06,bc182 etc. Jonny
jonnydavro 1 year ago
@jonnydavro Hi Jonny... SUCCESS! HAPPY JUMPIN GEZUZ! stripped a FUJI like you said (fried a kodak tt trying to get it off the board). OK.. ok.. so the ball is rolling. I called my GF and she wasnt impressed.. like it didnt knock her socks off.. (she said.. oh isnt that nice) and I said (uh yeah.. its nice, gee look at the time.. well gotta go now sweety) LOL.
now... how to get the the led to light up without touching. THANKS A HEAP JONNY.. AND THANKS TO STIFFY TOO.
zintoit 1 year ago
@zintoit Thats great.Just make sure you don't neglect the gf as experimenting with these type of circuits is quite addictive.Good luck.Jonny.
jonnydavro 1 year ago
Hi Jonny great work your doing here !!! , I have bought some parts for a replication , one question I bought a trigger transformer as I couldn't find a camera and it's yellow , it has on skinny wire and one thick wire on the bottom and a thick wire on the top will this work , also any hints asto what the skinny wire should hook to ?
Thanks Jonny ,
Robbo
robbosdog 1 year ago
@robbosdog Try the skinny wire on the output pan and connect the other two to batt positive and collector,if no luck,reverse these last two connections or try a camera coil .Good luck.Jonny
jonnydavro 1 year ago
nice vid idk what this is about but it sounds pretty smart :D
VampiricTyrant17 1 year ago
Very interesting, nice explanation and tutorial on how to do this.
Thank you.
crusiatusblack 1 year ago
Well done.. nice drawing, clear concise explanation of construction.. thanks Jonny
jabrinka99 1 year ago
Thanks jabrinka99.Jonny
jonnydavro 1 year ago
What is the positive lid of the triger transformer, thin or fat? Tkx for share!
alex681219 1 year ago
Hi alex.If using a camera trigger coil,this will be connected to the flash bulb.The lead connected to the bulb is the HV output and is usually on top of the coil.The other two leads are on the bottom and check for continuity between two pins as there will be more than two and if it dosen't work,just reverse these connections.Don't confuse the trigger coil with the hv transformer.This has thick and thin wire and is not used in this circuit.jonny.
jonnydavro 1 year ago
What is the positive lid of the triger transformer, thin or fat? Tkx for share!
alex681219 1 year ago
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sidebander 2 years ago
Johnnydavro, thanks 4 ur answers. I just received an 18-x kit and will begin testing soon. I will scope the various signals I asked about and comment them to all. I don't have a camera yet Plz tell me what I need to supply a video and audio upload. Once again thx 4 your good work and unselfishness.
BDDFOUR 2 years ago
Hi BDDFOUR.I use my mobile phone,nokia n95 with 8gig memory card as most modern phones now have a good vid camera but you need a fair bit of memory.Not to sure in a standalone camera.Happy experimenting and i look forward to your tests.Regards jonny
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Lohnnydavro, excellent video. Thanks.
Questions:
1. How does the brightness of an individual LED driven at its suggested data sheet current compare to an individual LED in your experiment?
2. What is the level of the flyback voltage generated at the transistor collector?
3. What is the frequency of the collector flyback signal?
Thank you
BDDFOUR 2 years ago
Hi BDDFOUR.The leds are very bright and the brightness exceeds a test led to the extent that you can actually damage your eyes and i am only using 8000mcd leds and they are far to bright to look at.Regarding voltage.High voltage appears at every point on this circuit ie Base,collector,emitter and flows back to the battary on both rails and from a 1.5v battery powered phone charger it is around 170v measured via an avramenko plug..Regarding frequency,i don't have a scope but another
jonnydavro 2 years ago
experimenter scoped it on a fairly wide bandwidth from 20mhz up to 50 mhz.Hope this helps.Regards jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Jonny--This might be one of the best videos you have ever done ----and maybe the most important. Many people will probably try this now and it will just help further the research. New people can do this who knows where that might lead. Thanks
Lidmotor 2 years ago
Thankyou Lidmotor.I hope this does encourage people to try electronics and this whole SEC project is such an interesting thing to be involved with and it is an exciting place for people to start and its a shame when people can't or are afraid to try something as they think it is to complex but when you slow it and break it down,it is relativly easy to follow whats going on so hopfully,fingers crossed we may see some new faces and with them new ideas.Thankyou.jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Sorry to ask, but what would someone use a SEC for?
pkrska 2 years ago
Hi pkrska.The SEC has many uses and plenty more,yet to be discovered.A few things it can do is wireless energy transmision,one wire energy transmision,battery charging,electrolysis,the list is quite extensive and Dr Stiffler who discovered the SEC phenomona releases new discoveries regulary which are quite frankly mind blowing,well to me anyway.If you want to learn more about it search utube for,MRH202 (Dr Stiffler),Lidmotor,gbluer,inquorate and there are plenty more.Hope this helps.Jonny
jonnydavro 2 years ago
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sidebander 2 years ago
Thankyou presentation simple and clear!
mareazzurroo 2 years ago
Thankyou mareazzurroo.Thats a great name.Regards jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Thanks tubemp777.Jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
excellent clear informative vid.
thanks a zillion
harpbloke 2 years ago
Hope this helps others to experiment with electronics.Thanks for your comment.Regards jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
I've been interested in trying this, but never had a clue of what to do. But now it looks easy!
Forssa1 2 years ago
Hi Forssa.I hope you try this as it is a very interesting circuit to experiment with.Thanks,jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Johny, Wonderful! Clear explanations like this is what I am always searching for. People like you and Lidmotor certainly help people lik me to get excited about building these wild and wonderful devices. Keep up the great work. I finally understand what an Avrimenko plug is!
And a SEC device.
Aloha
jackscholze 2 years ago
Hi Jack.The avramenko plug is quite a mystery to most people and its construction is not to well documented and it is such a useful circuit and can be used on quite a few of the things you are doing so i am glad i may of helped.Many thanks.jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
THANK YOU!
This is a great explanation.
I think you covered everything.
thank you millions and millions.
jeanna
jeannacav 2 years ago
Hi Jeanna.Hope to see you lighting lots of leds soon.Regards jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago
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jeannacav 2 years ago
Great video Jonny.
Very well explained.Well done
GBluer 2 years ago
Thankyou Slayer.jonny
jonnydavro 2 years ago
Excellent tutorial Jonny!!
I am glad you took the time to do this. Now many more folks can experiment with these circuits.
Great job.
Bill
Pirate88179 2 years ago 2
Thanks Bill.i have had lots of people asking about this circuit and although it is simple,it is only simple if you now how so hopefuly this will help a lot of people and also encourage new people to try electronics as a hobby.many thanks.jonny.
jonnydavro 2 years ago