According to Judicial theory that failure to answer the question, or answer in a way unrelated to the question, gives a right to determine the results that can be detrimental to the person being questioned, a bias. Example, a suspect being questioned about a robbery answers "I didn't do it on Tuesday" is not an answer, and answered some unspoken question, we start to find guilt to the detriment of the suspect. The problem is to claim the Fifth Amendment means no testimony, otherwise, answer.
@bigdogphoto - Coburn is part of the The Family on C Street, their secrecy is more concern to me and their very existence, than the questions Coburn is asking of Kagan, Coburn needs to be investigated.
She's from the left, the constitution doesn't count it's to old. It is not what the left wants, the are not True Americans. Obama wants her for his new government. Obama doesn't believe in the constitution, sadly the American people. If approved, it will be a major fuck up.
@TheImpeacher - I believe to the contrary that it is liberal philosophy and the enlightenment worldview which is embodied in our constitution as opposed to the theocracy and permanent indenture which are being imposed on us by today's "conservative" political elite.
Coburn is such a douche- why should she be the one to "set a new standard"? Rampant hypocrisy has got to be called out, or we're never going to get anywhere. Both sides are guilty of this, why do we expect higher standards from our perceived opponents than we do from ourselves? I'm so sick of this infantile crap.
Please provide me with 3 bill's produced in the house or the senate that was purely for the benefit of the average middle class American written by a Republican in the last 20 years?
* Eliminated "marriage penalty" in tax code * Bush tax cuts spurred economic growth and created 3 million net jobs
Cuts help mid- class move up the economic ladder
To PREEMPT your typical talking pts response, there's plenty here on YouTube of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd saying there's nothing wrong with Fannie and encouraging banks to loan to those who can't afford - leading to housing mess
what a show. all i need is popcorn and a coke. maybe someone will jump off the top rope. kagan will move the court toward increased presidential powers and less freedom for the little guy.
but wait, shes a lesbian, sharia-law implementing, "liberal activist judge"...
Instead of talking about the actual record some of which is ripe for criticism, all the GOP continues to do is grandstand to a script given by Frank Luntz
Senators and Congressmen who bend the Constitution to their own values and who use the Constitution to pursue their own vision for society take this right away from the people and undermine liberty itself.” This will be the first Hobbit to serve on the Supreme Court of the United States. Is this a great country or what? Is this the best America has to offer? 1st dodomayor, now kegan. I guess we are beholden to the progressive/libtard agenda. Remember Nov 2nd.
I'm hoping they'll let Lindsey Graham ask her the questions about why she opposed having military recruiters at Harvard. I want to see the look on his face when she mentions thinking that the don't ask don't tell policy is wrong, given that Graham is currently a reserve colonel in the Air Force JAG. Maybe she could ask him what his opinion is, or if he knows of any officers that are in a tricky spot because of it?
@TrollBuster9090 Also, she'll correct him by revealing that the recruiters were allowed there, just not in the recruiting office. Furthermore, she was obeying what was then, a federal law stating that any organization that discriminated was banned from any college or university receiving funds. Yeah, let fruitloop Lindsay ask her so we can watch Kagan serve him up a pitcher of STFU.
"Why should we have this dance if we're not going to find out real answers?"
Good question, considering you didn't get any 'real answers' from Roberts or Alito, both of whom presented themselves as neutral scribes and then turned out to be partisan judicial activists once confirmed.
But I think you know the answer, Coburn. We have this dance to give you the opportunity to throw red meat to your political base, and raise election funds. True of both sides.
Why not haul John Roberts' ass back before the committee and have him go through the process truthfully and see whether or not -- knowing what we now know about the man -- he manages to be confirmed? How about that? Why start getting curious when the nominee is no longer coming from W and Dick Cheney?
In one moment he asks her to answer questions, in the next he tells her that the only thing baring her from position is the trust of people.
One can only LOSE trust by answering questions at this point. Which to me, means that he's essentially asking her to screw up so he can give cause to rally against her nomination.
@QuasiEvilScott "in the next he tells her that the only thing baring her from position is the trust of people."
What's funny is that I'll bet that Scalia doesn't have the trust of 1/3 of "the people", let alone a majority. Coburn's statement proves one very revealing thing: he believes that the Supreme Court is an entity to be politicized, which is entirely contrary to the wishes of the Founders. Of course, he learned that from Boosh and Dick-less.
@charlie1der Every political system is screwed up. Are you suggesting the current mess is not in your favor and a restart might put you in a more favorable position?
In that case, I vote no on the restart.
All political systems fail - you're not wrong, but the highest scrutiny is needed to be placed upon those who would be the immediate cause of their failure - what is it that they would gain? I doubt you are a Nelson Mandela.
@gamoonbat We didn't hear any of the right wing ankle-biters yipping about Roberts' and Alito's unwillingness to answer questions, now did we? I remember reading at the time several commentators noting the dangerous precedent the GOP set. Henceforth, no SCOTUS candidate will really be compelled to answer any questions posed during the confirmation hearing.
@kaysandesses - The dangerous precedent was actually set by all of the Democratic senators who voted for those two clowns, including our current president. The Democrats should have stuck it out and demanded questions rather than declining to advise the President on the qualifications of the nominees.
@gamoonbat Certainly their votes were an unfortunate stamp of approval on the process. It has been nasty for decades. Think back about the failed Bork nomination.
@kaysandesses - Bork spoke honestly but his views were way out of the mainstream. Subsequent nominees whose thinking has been mainstream have been coached not to answer the most important questions.
@gamoonbat Exactly. In a purist sense, that's not all bad considering the job of a SC Justice is to make decisions based upon the Constitution and and less so upon established legal precedent. Unfortunately, everyone has political leanings which serve to contaminate the pure state.
@MrGrevy - I thought Elena answered more questions than she needed to. She does come from the East Coast intellectual world. It was her humor that carried her through to confirmation. I was probably thinking of conservative Republicans such as John Roberts when I wrote the above. He was by far the least communicative of all nominees when he sailed through confirmation. I was very proud of Barack Obama and other liberal Senators for voting against him and trying to press for clear answers.
Annoying, yappy little lap dogs are always like that. I haven't made up my mind what kind of dogs the Democrats are yet (although a few of them are obviously lap dogs), but the GOP has become corporate lap dogs to a man.
@petehjr1 So say progressives that are always gagging down mulatto cock. Faggotry is exclusively the domain of liberals.
The corporations that received special privileges (such as bailouts, etc.) gave more money to democrats than republicans. So please stop slurping the slimy taint of your corporate masters and the brown eyes of your embezzling democratic leaders, sperm-gurgler. It's pretty funny that milksops always say about conservatives exactly what's wrong with you.
@Godspork "The corporations that received special privileges (bailouts etc.) gave more money to Dems than Reps.." Depends what you mean by "more." Aside from Big Oil and Hedge funds they're pretty even. 2008 contributions to Congress (OpenSecrets) Banks: Dem 13.8 mil GOP 14.5 mil Hedge funds: Dem 5.2 GOP 2.3 Insurance: Dem 17.3 GOP 18.1 Pharma: Dem 11.6 GOP 10.3 Big Oil: Dem 5.7 million GOP 17.2 million
@TrollBuster9090 That's good. Now look up the specific institutions that actually recieved bailouts and find out if they gave more to democrats or republicans and post it here.
@Godspork Of the banks and securities companies that received more than 5 billion from TARP bailout, they break down like this: Dem/Repub. Gave more to Democrats: Goldman Sachs 75/25 Citigroup 65/35 JPMorgan Chase 61/39 Morgan Stanley 58/41 Bank of America Corp. 57/43 Gave more to Republicans: PNC Financial Services Group Inc. 37/63 US Bancorp 40/60 Merrill Lynch 47/53 Wells Fargo 49/51 Auto industry GM 53/46 Chrysler 51/49
Coburn is entirely wrong. The job of a SCOTUS Justice is to rule in accordance with the Constitution while drawing also from legal precedent. It is obvious from his comments that Coburn's entire goal is to completely politicize the Supreme Court. I guess he was asleep when they talked about Separation of Powers during Civics class.
Vote every last one of them out in Nov. EVERY LAST ONE. Try to find non-professional wannabe politicians to replace them with. This Kagan moron, another of the elitist wannabe's out of Harvard, is a prime example of why we need real "change"; instead of BUSHTARD3. We are now paying to protect China's minerals in Afghanistan. WTF
According to Judicial theory that failure to answer the question, or answer in a way unrelated to the question, gives a right to determine the results that can be detrimental to the person being questioned, a bias. Example, a suspect being questioned about a robbery answers "I didn't do it on Tuesday" is not an answer, and answered some unspoken question, we start to find guilt to the detriment of the suspect. The problem is to claim the Fifth Amendment means no testimony, otherwise, answer.
WOWJBEOWULF 1 year ago
VOTE NO...WE DO NOT NEED KAGAN ON THE SUPREME COURT!!!
sellersdr 1 year ago
Why won't Coburn answer questions about his "C Street" involvement?
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 1 year ago
She looks like a constipated Kermit the Frog- sounds like him too.
supajc 1 year ago
The ability of government to force us to buy health insurance is no different than Congress telling us what we have to eat.
Why could she not answer this simple question?
Why does she support a law that would allow the possiblity of banning of books?
When will these tyrants shut down or censor/limit internet content?
What limits the power of these tyrannical "public servants"?
Way to flush out another liberty robbing radical progressive Sen. Coburn!
bigdogphoto 1 year ago
@bigdogphoto - Coburn is part of the The Family on C Street, their secrecy is more concern to me and their very existence, than the questions Coburn is asking of Kagan, Coburn needs to be investigated.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 1 year ago
She's from the left, the constitution doesn't count it's to old. It is not what the left wants, the are not True Americans. Obama wants her for his new government. Obama doesn't believe in the constitution, sadly the American people. If approved, it will be a major fuck up.
TheImpeacher 1 year ago
@TheImpeacher - I believe to the contrary that it is liberal philosophy and the enlightenment worldview which is embodied in our constitution as opposed to the theocracy and permanent indenture which are being imposed on us by today's "conservative" political elite.
gamoonbat 1 year ago
SCOTUS judges are going to be robots in the future so we won't have to go through this circus everytime.
Maziyar 1 year ago
i trust her.. but i don't trust you senator. so get out.
Kyanlikethepepper 1 year ago
Havn't you people figured it out, that this is nothing but a big old show for us to watch...
Nothing will come of this, just a bunch of hot air being made....
AfricanMadman 1 year ago
Coburn is such a douche- why should she be the one to "set a new standard"? Rampant hypocrisy has got to be called out, or we're never going to get anywhere. Both sides are guilty of this, why do we expect higher standards from our perceived opponents than we do from ourselves? I'm so sick of this infantile crap.
madamezora7 1 year ago
Please provide me with 3 bill's produced in the house or the senate that was purely for the benefit of the average middle class American written by a Republican in the last 20 years?
nuumskee 1 year ago 8
@nuumskee
You asked. Here ya go:
'94 Congress' Contract with America
* Balanced budget
* Eliminated "marriage penalty" in tax code * Bush tax cuts spurred economic growth and created 3 million net jobs
Cuts help mid- class move up the economic ladder
To PREEMPT your typical talking pts response, there's plenty here on YouTube of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd saying there's nothing wrong with Fannie and encouraging banks to loan to those who can't afford - leading to housing mess
bvmanPA 1 year ago
Kagan looked like John Wayne Gacy in drag sizing up his next victim!
TitusSviatoslav 1 year ago
what a show. all i need is popcorn and a coke. maybe someone will jump off the top rope. kagan will move the court toward increased presidential powers and less freedom for the little guy.
MrGnarus 1 year ago
@MrGnarus
but wait, shes a lesbian, sharia-law implementing, "liberal activist judge"...
Instead of talking about the actual record some of which is ripe for criticism, all the GOP continues to do is grandstand to a script given by Frank Luntz
micahgee 1 year ago
I hope she doesn't get confirmed
PersonalJesus348 1 year ago
you do this dance to put on a show for the american ppl, and you know it asshole
achampag 1 year ago
Senators and Congressmen who bend the Constitution to their own values and who use the Constitution to pursue their own vision for society take this right away from the people and undermine liberty itself.” This will be the first Hobbit to serve on the Supreme Court of the United States. Is this a great country or what? Is this the best America has to offer? 1st dodomayor, now kegan. I guess we are beholden to the progressive/libtard agenda. Remember Nov 2nd.
dkkght46 1 year ago
Kagan is a terrible SCOTUS appointee. I don't think anyone is excited about this turd-sandwich
ThePoliticalMoose 1 year ago
When Roberts was spinning PR, where you then Coburn?
sinterics 1 year ago
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@sinterics "When Roberts was spinning PR, where you then Coburn? "
He was too busy t-baggin' some giant corp. exec's to notice.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
Yeah, we'd hate to get another activist judge like Stevens.
facelesshorseman 1 year ago
I'm hoping they'll let Lindsey Graham ask her the questions about why she opposed having military recruiters at Harvard. I want to see the look on his face when she mentions thinking that the don't ask don't tell policy is wrong, given that Graham is currently a reserve colonel in the Air Force JAG. Maybe she could ask him what his opinion is, or if he knows of any officers that are in a tricky spot because of it?
TrollBuster9090 1 year ago
@TrollBuster9090 Also, she'll correct him by revealing that the recruiters were allowed there, just not in the recruiting office. Furthermore, she was obeying what was then, a federal law stating that any organization that discriminated was banned from any college or university receiving funds. Yeah, let fruitloop Lindsay ask her so we can watch Kagan serve him up a pitcher of STFU.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@TrollBuster9090 Lindsey Graham is a fag...lol
cagedtigersteve 1 year ago
"Why should we have this dance if we're not going to find out real answers?"
Good question, considering you didn't get any 'real answers' from Roberts or Alito, both of whom presented themselves as neutral scribes and then turned out to be partisan judicial activists once confirmed.
But I think you know the answer, Coburn. We have this dance to give you the opportunity to throw red meat to your political base, and raise election funds. True of both sides.
TrollBuster9090 1 year ago
Why not haul John Roberts' ass back before the committee and have him go through the process truthfully and see whether or not -- knowing what we now know about the man -- he manages to be confirmed? How about that? Why start getting curious when the nominee is no longer coming from W and Dick Cheney?
classic14rider 1 year ago
In one moment he asks her to answer questions, in the next he tells her that the only thing baring her from position is the trust of people.
One can only LOSE trust by answering questions at this point. Which to me, means that he's essentially asking her to screw up so he can give cause to rally against her nomination.
Good luck with that guy.
QuasiEvilScott 1 year ago
@QuasiEvilScott "in the next he tells her that the only thing baring her from position is the trust of people."
What's funny is that I'll bet that Scalia doesn't have the trust of 1/3 of "the people", let alone a majority. Coburn's statement proves one very revealing thing: he believes that the Supreme Court is an entity to be politicized, which is entirely contrary to the wishes of the Founders. Of course, he learned that from Boosh and Dick-less.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
This guy is a douche.
alowlyapprentice 1 year ago
@alowlyapprentice he's not even good at being a douche. he's an insult to other douches.
KataVideo 1 year ago
Stupid GOP!
Iceberg6606 1 year ago
our political system is screwed up beyond repair. it´s time for a "re-start". warning: it will be painful. reality: it will happen eventually.
charlie1der 1 year ago
@charlie1der Every political system is screwed up. Are you suggesting the current mess is not in your favor and a restart might put you in a more favorable position?
In that case, I vote no on the restart.
All political systems fail - you're not wrong, but the highest scrutiny is needed to be placed upon those who would be the immediate cause of their failure - what is it that they would gain? I doubt you are a Nelson Mandela.
QuasiEvilScott 1 year ago
@charlie1der lol. no, there's not going to be a violent revolution.
KataVideo 1 year ago
thier stackin the court to say...NO 2ND AMENDMENT! it as plain as the cock in her pants!
treon123456 1 year ago
@treon123456
You're a fool.
donhector87 1 year ago
@donhector87 LOL.....thx
treon123456 1 year ago
We get the real answers after they are confirmed. That is how it has worked with Justices Thomas, Roberts, and Alito at any rate!
gamoonbat 1 year ago
@gamoonbat We didn't hear any of the right wing ankle-biters yipping about Roberts' and Alito's unwillingness to answer questions, now did we? I remember reading at the time several commentators noting the dangerous precedent the GOP set. Henceforth, no SCOTUS candidate will really be compelled to answer any questions posed during the confirmation hearing.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses - The dangerous precedent was actually set by all of the Democratic senators who voted for those two clowns, including our current president. The Democrats should have stuck it out and demanded questions rather than declining to advise the President on the qualifications of the nominees.
gamoonbat 1 year ago
@gamoonbat Certainly their votes were an unfortunate stamp of approval on the process. It has been nasty for decades. Think back about the failed Bork nomination.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@kaysandesses - Bork spoke honestly but his views were way out of the mainstream. Subsequent nominees whose thinking has been mainstream have been coached not to answer the most important questions.
gamoonbat 1 year ago
@gamoonbat Exactly. In a purist sense, that's not all bad considering the job of a SC Justice is to make decisions based upon the Constitution and and less so upon established legal precedent. Unfortunately, everyone has political leanings which serve to contaminate the pure state.
kaysandesses 1 year ago
@gamoonbat Mainstream? Like this troll Kagan? Yeah she's really middle america all right! Are you delusional or what?
MrGrevy 1 year ago
@MrGrevy - I thought Elena answered more questions than she needed to. She does come from the East Coast intellectual world. It was her humor that carried her through to confirmation. I was probably thinking of conservative Republicans such as John Roberts when I wrote the above. He was by far the least communicative of all nominees when he sailed through confirmation. I was very proud of Barack Obama and other liberal Senators for voting against him and trying to press for clear answers.
gamoonbat 1 year ago
@gamoonbat Well I guess we just disagree.
MrGrevy 1 year ago
It's always funny when conservatives bark like handbag dogs, then lick the balls of their corporate masters. Oh well.
petehjr1 1 year ago
@petehjr1
Annoying, yappy little lap dogs are always like that. I haven't made up my mind what kind of dogs the Democrats are yet (although a few of them are obviously lap dogs), but the GOP has become corporate lap dogs to a man.
TrollBuster9090 1 year ago
@petehjr1 So say progressives that are always gagging down mulatto cock. Faggotry is exclusively the domain of liberals.
The corporations that received special privileges (such as bailouts, etc.) gave more money to democrats than republicans. So please stop slurping the slimy taint of your corporate masters and the brown eyes of your embezzling democratic leaders, sperm-gurgler. It's pretty funny that milksops always say about conservatives exactly what's wrong with you.
Godspork 1 year ago
TrollBuster9090 1 year ago 2
@TrollBuster9090 That's good. Now look up the specific institutions that actually recieved bailouts and find out if they gave more to democrats or republicans and post it here.
Godspork 1 year ago
TrollBuster9090 1 year ago
@TrollBuster9090 Good job. Can you add up the actual dollar amounts for me now, please?
Godspork 1 year ago
Coburn is entirely wrong. The job of a SCOTUS Justice is to rule in accordance with the Constitution while drawing also from legal precedent. It is obvious from his comments that Coburn's entire goal is to completely politicize the Supreme Court. I guess he was asleep when they talked about Separation of Powers during Civics class.
kaysandesses 1 year ago 2
Kagan joked in 2008 that she wasn't qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice.
MooseOfReason 1 year ago
Vote every last one of them out in Nov. EVERY LAST ONE. Try to find non-professional wannabe politicians to replace them with. This Kagan moron, another of the elitist wannabe's out of Harvard, is a prime example of why we need real "change"; instead of BUSHTARD3. We are now paying to protect China's minerals in Afghanistan. WTF
bigc028282 1 year ago
another commie!
BeantownJim 1 year ago
@BeantownJim
Who, Coburn? I agree! He believes in Corporate Welfare and Socialism for the Rich, like most of his colleagues.
Glad we finally agree on something.
TrollBuster9090 1 year ago
@TrollBuster9090 I was reffering to kagan That lesbian is as demented as Barney Frank!
BeantownJim 1 year ago
if you really want real answers then get some really smart people to ask the real questions. i mean, really.
junkforkaryn 1 year ago 2
@junkforkaryn such as...?
joshpnw 1 year ago