My Grandfather was an RASC Blacksmith in the British Army during WW2 in Burma ... those guys had to fabricate anything and everything. I am getting into Blade smithing seriously this year and feel a huge connection to the craft - genetic memory is a very real thing in my view. Some times in life you feel a deep connection to an activity or place and have no idea why ... your ancestors know, but it is for you to find out.
The reason for the tension during quenching is nothing mystical. If you don't do it right, you can thrw the sword away and start back at the very beginning. If you do it right, you're out of the woods and there's not much more that can go wrong.
all that fun chinese sword fighting kung fu ballet 3 hour fights is not what the japs did. they killed you in one minute or less. fast quick and brutal.
no im just a filmmaker/video producer...JB who is featured in this documentary is a real bladesmith. i can give you his emaill address if you would like to contact him personally.
Sorry, but those are about the worst examples of Chinese swords possible, those interested in learning about Chinese Historical Swords might want to check out the GRTC Forum.
this is so AWESOME!! and i know about most of this but every time i see something like this it seems so amazing like i never got my forge, but I'm only starting with bladsmithing my forge is outside. it's just me and my dad sometimes my brother forging and it feels like were alone in the industry. i started to forge when i was twelve now i'm thirteen.
I believe it has to do with timing and rhythm...also not bashing the hell out of the steel all at once. From what JB told me, there's a specific science to every step in the process. I'm not a bladesmith or sword maker so I can merely speculate why...I plan to do a more detailed documentary on this subject since it has left me and many viewers with unanswered questions. Thanks for stopping by.
I wondered why he was doing that also, and guessed that maybe it was to do with keeping the impurities out of the steel, since when it's heated to extremely high temperatures, they'll become noticeable on the exterior layers. Sort of like if you're using a quill and an ink well to write -- you've got to ensure you're not going to mess up your work and tap out the excess, drippy ink each time.
It's yeah, it probably has do do with his own habits and personal rhythm too.
You're right, it's about keeping the rhythm. When you're pounding away at (fine) steel you want to keep a constant rebound with your hammer, whether you're bouncing it off your work or the anvil, if you don't you'll wear yourself out. Hitting the anvil is to keep that rhythm while turning the stock.
You're right about the rhythm part. You want to keep your hammer rebounding off the steel, whther it be your stock or the anvil, it saves your strength and lets you hammer for long periods of time. 4lb hammer may not sound like much, but if he stopped hammering every time he turned the stock, he'd wear himself out. Basically he's letting the bounce do the work instead of using his own energy.
no worries...any and all information is helpful. i can use it to formulate my next set of questions for a more detailed documentary about the art of sword making. i appreciate the feedback.
weapons were trained to fight for hours not minutes before getting tired;"
An actual engagement is very brief. Though a battle may last hours, most of that is just troop movements. The engagements themselves are over in a matter of minutes, precisely because there are limits to human stamina. And also, if you pitch two units against eachother in melee, one side will have won within a matter of minutes.
But then, pitched melee of attrition, two units fighting till there is only one left standing, was not particularly common. Battles of attrition, much like wars of attrition, are extremely wasteful to both/all parties involved. This is why tactical withdrawals and oblique attacks were invented; to allow respite. Two units are not going to spend hours on end fighting eachother non-stop.
That may true most of the time. But it did happen; there were nonstop fighting for hours be for... Greeks, Romans, and Knights was well as other troops were trained to fight for hours; it did not mean the fight lasted for hours...
"Greeks, Romans, and Knights was well as other troops were trained to fight for hours;"
They trained for hours, they did not train to have confrontations for hours. Because that simply does not happen, nor did it. And the Greeks, Romans and Medieval knights all developed oblique tactics, so that one unit would relieve another, allowing them to withdraw. One mass of warriors banging against another mass of warriors is Hollywood, and casualties were much lower in eras before gunpowder.
yes very correct "sweat on the mat so you dont bleed on the feild" as the saying goes. the Goths when fighting the Romans i think beat them partly because of this reason. the Romans werent fighting a war of attrittion but the Goths were they had to.
pretty neat video I really liked how you covered the topic of a few different swords and we really should try to keep this dieing art alive by passing on our knowledge of what we learned
Noone parried with swords back then cause you would ruin ur own sword and you would only do it if theres no other choice otherwise u would just dodge or use something else that you don't care about to block
though the japanese did learn from the chinese, they did develope their own style of forging, cause there isnt any blade that is forged quite like a katana
i will like to learn how to make swords and knives. in new york city but im willing to travel as long it is not so far. does enybody knows were i can learn?
TOP NOTCH. What an interesting cat this man Stoner is. A BLACKSMITH. Hold up, are we in 2007? Can we say, Discovery Channel? Shoot, there's so many possibilities with this one. Good shit my brotha, you're comin' up on your filming & editing skillz!!
Great video! I really enjoyed it!
judestaner 1 month ago
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My Grandfather was an RASC Blacksmith in the British Army during WW2 in Burma ... those guys had to fabricate anything and everything. I am getting into Blade smithing seriously this year and feel a huge connection to the craft - genetic memory is a very real thing in my view. Some times in life you feel a deep connection to an activity or place and have no idea why ... your ancestors know, but it is for you to find out.
Rikitocker 1 month ago
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now I really want to be a blacksmith.
rogantu 4 months ago
the music gotta go
ilikesuzuki 5 months ago
is that a falchion that hes forging at the beginig?
Shazzashazbot 6 months ago
actually the most samurai sword fights lasted from 5 seconds to 1 minute
rabarberbv 7 months ago
The reason for the tension during quenching is nothing mystical. If you don't do it right, you can thrw the sword away and start back at the very beginning. If you do it right, you're out of the woods and there's not much more that can go wrong.
Yora21 1 year ago
2:05 seriously? No tang? really? :( Am I mis-reading things?
speedysavant 1 year ago
Whats the movie at 3:40 called ?
Herobrandon 1 year ago
is that blacksmithing rap in the backround?
Thebarespot 1 year ago
reydub does JB have a website that I can look at or an email address I can contact him at?
SaintMilamber 1 year ago
all that fun chinese sword fighting kung fu ballet 3 hour fights is not what the japs did. they killed you in one minute or less. fast quick and brutal.
Rico8458 1 year ago
this master knows how to put spirit into the sword.
Rico8458 1 year ago
i would really apreaceate this
i could´nt find aniything about him in the internet only other people with the same name
do you know him personally?
thx for the moment and peace
TheTillinger123 2 years ago
are you a real blade smith, or are you a metal artist?
i´m searching for a smithing teaching since half a year
where are you from? do you instruct the classic smithing ?
TheTillinger123 2 years ago
no im just a filmmaker/video producer...JB who is featured in this documentary is a real bladesmith. i can give you his emaill address if you would like to contact him personally.
reydub 2 years ago
Sorry, but those are about the worst examples of Chinese swords possible, those interested in learning about Chinese Historical Swords might want to check out the GRTC Forum.
ChenQiangJianke 2 years ago
thanks for stopping by and leaving your feedback. the swords in the documentary are merely there to support the topic.
reydub 2 years ago
i want that Grosse Messer at 1:46
Vikingman889 2 years ago
@Vikingman889 haha thats nasty piece isnt it? JB did a great job on that one.
reydub 2 years ago
What?
Vikingman889 2 years ago
my mistake i thought you were speaking of the sword... ignore me im a bit out of the loop... thanks for stopping by.
reydub 2 years ago
Whatever, It aint a gun!
J0Gu7 2 years ago
@J0Gu7 you had to watch this to figure that out? it says what it is in the title. thanks genius!
reydub 2 years ago
guns take no talent WHAT SO EVER, guns have no honor at all, and neither do you.
Vikingman889 2 years ago
OH No! vikingman has stripped me of my honor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not.
Me and my gun against you and your sword. I'll show you my telent, then you can show me yours.
J0Gu7 2 years ago
what talent could you ever possibly have, besides being an arrogant, ignorant, and all around egotistic bastard?
Vikingman889 2 years ago
I'm gonna become the greatest swordsman in the world, no doubt about it.
KatonFox 2 years ago
Can I come?
BloatedSensations 2 years ago
Sure!
KatonFox 2 years ago
this is so AWESOME!! and i know about most of this but every time i see something like this it seems so amazing like i never got my forge, but I'm only starting with bladsmithing my forge is outside. it's just me and my dad sometimes my brother forging and it feels like were alone in the industry. i started to forge when i was twelve now i'm thirteen.
12swordmaster 2 years ago
stay on it..its a very important to keep this art alive. thanks for watching.
reydub 2 years ago
i so agree with you I'll keep doing it.
12swordmaster 2 years ago
Does anywhone knowes, whats the song at 0.40 is called?
real cool video
I smith too
TheTillinger123 2 years ago
That is a beat I produced called "Sword Fighting Industry" and it's from "The Beats Have Eyes" album. Search it on iTunes.
gomezbeats 2 years ago
why do you hit the anvil after you kit the metal at intervals?
flipendaniel 2 years ago
Read up on the thread, as many viewers have asked and answered this question. Hope it helps! Thanks for passing by and viewing.
reydub 2 years ago
Japan wouldn't have any chance on war against any European might.
Those all jumps and swinging the sword is just a show while real warriors were pushing and crushing with their brute strength and not worse skills.
Vultar666 2 years ago
This was very informative and I am hoping to see more.
Mugen06 2 years ago
that dao he has a 1:47 looks awesome i wanna see it finished
/it seems not enough swordsmiths make good chinese weapons :, (
shinkengatsxa 3 years ago
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ColdSteel has a very , very nice Jian. You should check it out if you want.
sshum00 2 years ago
why is he hitting in the anvil after a few hits on the red steel? 1:18
ciucinciu 3 years ago
I believe it has to do with timing and rhythm...also not bashing the hell out of the steel all at once. From what JB told me, there's a specific science to every step in the process. I'm not a bladesmith or sword maker so I can merely speculate why...I plan to do a more detailed documentary on this subject since it has left me and many viewers with unanswered questions. Thanks for stopping by.
reydub 3 years ago
I wondered why he was doing that also, and guessed that maybe it was to do with keeping the impurities out of the steel, since when it's heated to extremely high temperatures, they'll become noticeable on the exterior layers. Sort of like if you're using a quill and an ink well to write -- you've got to ensure you're not going to mess up your work and tap out the excess, drippy ink each time.
It's yeah, it probably has do do with his own habits and personal rhythm too.
johnnytastetest 2 years ago
You're right, it's about keeping the rhythm. When you're pounding away at (fine) steel you want to keep a constant rebound with your hammer, whether you're bouncing it off your work or the anvil, if you don't you'll wear yourself out. Hitting the anvil is to keep that rhythm while turning the stock.
Halcyonwanderer 2 years ago
You're right about the rhythm part. You want to keep your hammer rebounding off the steel, whther it be your stock or the anvil, it saves your strength and lets you hammer for long periods of time. 4lb hammer may not sound like much, but if he stopped hammering every time he turned the stock, he'd wear himself out. Basically he's letting the bounce do the work instead of using his own energy.
Halcyonwanderer 2 years ago
Woops double post, I didn't think the first reply posted.
Halcyonwanderer 2 years ago
no worries...any and all information is helpful. i can use it to formulate my next set of questions for a more detailed documentary about the art of sword making. i appreciate the feedback.
reydub 2 years ago
The video was good...
Well swordsmen and other men with other
weapons were trained to fight for hours not minutes before getting tired; at least European swordsmen and troops with other
weapons...
255Knights 3 years ago
"Well swordsmen and other men with other
weapons were trained to fight for hours not minutes before getting tired;"
An actual engagement is very brief. Though a battle may last hours, most of that is just troop movements. The engagements themselves are over in a matter of minutes, precisely because there are limits to human stamina. And also, if you pitch two units against eachother in melee, one side will have won within a matter of minutes.
Gilmaris 3 years ago
But then, pitched melee of attrition, two units fighting till there is only one left standing, was not particularly common. Battles of attrition, much like wars of attrition, are extremely wasteful to both/all parties involved. This is why tactical withdrawals and oblique attacks were invented; to allow respite. Two units are not going to spend hours on end fighting eachother non-stop.
Gilmaris 3 years ago
That may true most of the time. But it did happen; there were nonstop fighting for hours be for... Greeks, Romans, and Knights was well as other troops were trained to fight for hours; it did not mean the fight lasted for hours...
255Knights 3 years ago
"Greeks, Romans, and Knights was well as other troops were trained to fight for hours;"
They trained for hours, they did not train to have confrontations for hours. Because that simply does not happen, nor did it. And the Greeks, Romans and Medieval knights all developed oblique tactics, so that one unit would relieve another, allowing them to withdraw. One mass of warriors banging against another mass of warriors is Hollywood, and casualties were much lower in eras before gunpowder.
Gilmaris 3 years ago
true but even if in the gunpowder era more soldiers fought there wasnt that many casualties.
Laddre 3 years ago
yes very correct "sweat on the mat so you dont bleed on the feild" as the saying goes. the Goths when fighting the Romans i think beat them partly because of this reason. the Romans werent fighting a war of attrittion but the Goths were they had to.
shinkengatsxa 3 years ago
pretty neat video I really liked how you covered the topic of a few different swords and we really should try to keep this dieing art alive by passing on our knowledge of what we learned
naodoinfinity 3 years ago
Noone parried with swords back then cause you would ruin ur own sword and you would only do it if theres no other choice otherwise u would just dodge or use something else that you don't care about to block
marineninga 3 years ago
what's the name of the songs used in this?
deathstalker83 3 years ago
The beats you hear can be found from "The Beats Have Eyes" CD, search for it on iTunes.
gomezbeats 3 years ago
Takes the temp out of the hammer.
Ruthairat 3 years ago
quick question y do u hit the anval after hitting the metal i see that alot does that help u
headace4907 3 years ago
quick question y do u hit the anval after hitting the metal i see that alot does that help u
headace4907 3 years ago
keeps the rythm,pace and momentum
HotForgeNClover 3 years ago
Chinese Broadsword.
28773 4 years ago
Thank you from KB @ Talon Knives
wingnutstube 4 years ago
Awesome video.
We have to keep the art of swordsmithing alive.
Inspiring stuff, thank you for sharing!
MADdwarfWorkshop 4 years ago 10
No, thank you for stopping by and viewing. For all who stop by and view it is much appreciated.
reydub 4 years ago
lovely video. i love swords. i wish to oneday make swords
whyshoulditurnback 4 years ago 8
though the japanese did learn from the chinese, they did develope their own style of forging, cause there isnt any blade that is forged quite like a katana
logalogrenn 4 years ago 2
i would like to learn how to make swords and knives does anybody knows were can i go or what can i do to learn? i live in nyc.
josuelitos 4 years ago
i will like to learn how to make swords and knives. in new york city but im willing to travel as long it is not so far. does enybody knows were i can learn?
josuelitos 4 years ago
nice work man its so cool :)
kangahmtl2n 4 years ago
I could do without the dumb pop music.
twoboots4you 4 years ago
good !
chartreuxxx 4 years ago
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wack stupid this gay is stupidoo the katana from japan is the best weapon ever
morrigno 4 years ago
i want one
shakimc 4 years ago
BLACKSMITH KPO (Capo) You say the true segui asi..haciendo weapons..sal2.
BerserkJheova 4 years ago
TOP NOTCH. What an interesting cat this man Stoner is. A BLACKSMITH. Hold up, are we in 2007? Can we say, Discovery Channel? Shoot, there's so many possibilities with this one. Good shit my brotha, you're comin' up on your filming & editing skillz!!
gomezbeats 4 years ago