T90 training? Great oxymoron. When the crew isn't standing around smoking and bullshitting, they're eating dog food or swilling vodka like the poor drunk bastards they are. That wonderful carousel ammo system is another great design too. Tell your engineers and scientists to sober up, late 80's technology won't cut it on the modern battlefield. Any 120mm sabot would turn this hunk of crap into a giant ashtray.
@HauptmannAmerica You only think this way because you got a false impression of Russian tank performance from the war in Iraq. What you fail to understand is that the T72 used by Iraq were T72M's and T72M1's, as well as their locally produced Lion of Babylon, which were all export version of the original T72A. These export models were less than half as capable than the original designs. Look it up! Search up "monkey models" on google, first link.
@TheDima999 Thank you. Let's see, if I'm a country that prefers to import it's arms and equipment and I'm looking for a MBT with an autoloader, the T90 wouldn't even be on my list. You could try to compare the Leclerc to the T90 from a conceptual standpoint, but the build quality and fire control system of the Leclerc is so much better, that the T90 looks like it was cobbled together by a bunch of drunken engineers and welders.
@HauptmannAmerica You are stupid and have no fucking idea of T90, only 4 tanks in world have full digital fire controlling system, T90S,T90MS,Leclerc and Merkava so and the Kalina fire control systeme is knowday the best fire control systeme in the world.And what you call shit control systeme built from drunken engeneers holds the world record of 7 target in 54 seconds, kid go fuck yourself stupid brainwashed american.
@Talshet Time to sober up. The M1A2 has a digital fire control system that would shame the T90 and it still has enough room on the turret floor to show your mom a good time. Kiss my American ass.
@HauptmannAmerica belive what you want the Kalina Fire "full" digital fire control systeme is the best in the world nowdays.Its the newst and can follow targets behind buildings etc. M1 fire control systeme is already 12 years old it cant face the nowdays fire control systemes.Even russian BMP3 and BMD3/4 have full digital fire control systemes can destroy modern MBT from 7km range,because the barrel has dralls.
the thing about russian tanks it, you have to slow down or stop or turn if you want to do something with the turret. all the other tanks can go full sped and youcan do anything with the turret
Der Leopard ist wenn man jede einzelne Disziplin die bei einem Panzer Wichtig ist ganz vorne. Vor M1, Merkava und T 90. Das einzigste Problem ist nur T 90 hat Arena, ERA1 und Shtora 1. Merkava hat RA und Trophy, und der M1 hat auch RA und Iron fist was eigentlich Isrealische Technology ist was Amys ja nicht gebacken bekommen. Der Leopard kann nur mit RA ausgerüstet werden ein System wie Shtora oder Arena, Iron Fist oder Trophy hat er allerdings nicht, dass macht ihn sehr viel schwächer.
@Talshet stimmt nicht ! nicht in jeder der leopard kann net in der luft schießen weil er viel zu schwer ist und bis er seine kanone bewegt schießt in der t-90 panzer 3 ma ab ... t-90 worde gemacht klein und schnell
@patrikasLTL Before you argue, baby, you figure it out in terms of, you're confusing "Shtora" and "Arena". "Blind" is put in a regular manner at all T-90 is present. "Arena" is put further.
I was thinking of asking the same thing. I've read that M-84AS (M-84 is a Yugoslav MBT derivative of T-72M. M-84AS is an upgrade with the same systems used on T-90A) has extra ammo (the ammo that is not in the autoloader) stored in a compartment with blow-out panels.
Yes but the M84 has even been better then the Russian T72s. It's almost a separate tank. Also I believe there are some videos showing how a T90's auto loader works so I think that should say something.
That's not quite what I mean. I mean did they change the autoloader, making it a more bustle style autoloader like the Leclerc or Type 90 or did they do something else or just leave it the same as the T72.
It's the same as in T-72. The reason is the ammo. T-90 (and other russian tanks) uses a separate round and propelant charge, like Challenger 2. Such ammo needs the carousel autoloader.
@KiLLeR12007SerJo The Abrams would destroy the T-90 before it could get a shot off-besides the M1 is designed to take a hit while a T-90 couldnt!! Its been proven!!
@MrJosephguy доказано то что помойка абрамс горит после 1 попадания устаревшей гранаты РПГ-7. А ещё доказано то что Т-90 стреляет управляемой ракетой на расстояние в 5 км. Ваш абрамс будет уничтожен на расстоянии в 5 км, при максимальной дальностиполёта вашего снаряда в 2-2,5км
@zipacna1980: Your Missiles are called ATGM ( Anti Tank Guided Missile ) The T-90 can shoot the 9K119 Refleks in the West called AT-11 Sniper. It has a maximum Range of 5km. The Leopard 2 & the Merkava can shoot the LAHAT with 8km Range. The M1 Abrams can shoot the MRM-KE, which has a maximum Range of 12km. Do you notice something?
The T-90 got Shtora 1 soon Shtora 2, the ERA in tandem version too and Arena. Shtora will protect against any Guided Missle doesn't matter from wich Range its fired. Leopard, Merkava and M1 dont got this kind of system. and the Iron Fist like the Trophy system are good Systems but cant hold against Mach 6 tandem initiaded 9K113 Refleks M. It initiade an explosion from a range infront of target about 100-50 and reach the Mach 6 tempo and the Iron Fist cant react in Mach 6.
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It all makes sense, A-10 is a tank killer, so T-90 is breakfast for A-10, A-10 is breakfast for the Tunguska-M1 and since Tunguskas are within tank groups, A-10 will be scrap before any T-90 will be.
Nazi Germany boast "Panther." When the Soviet tanks came to the "Panther" After the first hit, the second Hitlerite flee, forgetting to stop the tank.
GAU-8 cant penetrate T-90 armor in any case. And Hellfire could be easily jamed by Shtora and hardkilled by ARENA systems. Not to mention that T-90 uses ATGMs not only to ground tanks by against helicopters and planes. Plus it has 125mm HE rounds with remote detonator and can use it as AA cannon. Plus it has very precise 12,7mm remote controlled KORD HMG on turret.
The AGM-114L is a true fire-and-forget weapon; it requires no further guidance after launch and can hit its target without the launcher being in line of sight of the target.The T-90 can neither jam nor defend against the newest Hellfire.
Nooope)))) "fire and forget" means IR and AR guildance without external correction))) That is why T-90 have Shtora ))) To jam such missiles in IR and Radio bands of EM ;))) You need a lot to learn - the more missile autonomous in target tracking - the more it vulnerable to any kind of jamming)))
Oh sorry - and M1A2 does NOT uses AGM-114L ;)))
P.S. T-90 can use Invar to shot down Ah-64 and can use Ainet 125mm rounds as AA weapon))) + 12,5 remote controlled HMG ;))
Yeah - hellfire uses some voooodoooo maaagick that our maaaagick cant affectt it - sure - americans use very powerful` and versatil` maaagick - russs afraid
The general said that even the T-90 -- which is considered a modern unit and with which only the elite Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya tank divisions will be equipped by 2010 -- is outdated and no BIMS will be installed on it. That is to say, in battlefield conditions Russian tanks will still be shooting in the dark.
Мы тебя гниду - если надо на ощупь найдем и в землю живьем гусеницами зароем вместе с твоим М1 - нам на такое говно снарядов жалко - не говоря уже о ракетах. А надо будет мы вас саперными лопатками по морде уделаем мало не покажется.
i read your comments and i think that it doesn't matter if a hellfire rocket can destroy a T-90 tank...because in an event of war between Russia and USA they'll use all their nuclear ICBMs and cripple (if not destroy) each other and a big part of the world...So stop arguing because the Russians and Americans (and the rest of the world for that matter) will regret if they wage war on each other
MarshallJukov, do you really think I would be that easy to jam a hellfire? The new hellfire (AGM-114K Hellfire II) is specificaly designed to operate in severe electronic countermeasures. It has a Millimeter wave radar seeker and NO IR or AR guidance. It's almost impossible to jam
What??? Actualy we wiped out most of the serbian radars. And the new AGM-114K Hellfire II was not used in serbia. It has simplified/secured electronics. Every part in AGM-114K Hellfire II is designed to defeat systems like shtora. The javelin can also defeat shtora because it has top attack and impact-force detonation and simplified electronics. Shtora is a great system. One of the best in the world. But It's not invincible
Actualy no S-125 radar was destroyed in Serbia at all - only decoys - Serbians just used it in passive mode (IR) and tirned it on only to launch missiles- those radars is still there and fully operational - despite over 32000 NATO flight missions.
And Shtora is also costantly upgraded system - ever heard of Shrota 2? Also only Russian tanks have significant protection on the roof.
This not modernized T-72!This t-90!!!On arm and protection T-90 and Leopard 2 is approximately equal!
On shots in minute Leopard 2 official champion, but T-90 does on 1 shot been bigger in the same conditions, what and Leopard 2!!!!!
Were not able to punch reservation of tank, shooting on her shot from gun that is equal on power to gun of Abramsютак with the most modern shells and reservation was not again punched, moreover tank went with power in part!!
no! T-90 is the new modern tank! In him far thicker and heavier armour, absolutely other tower, and shells with uranium, that helps without obstacles to destroy any tanks!
This a uprgraded T-72. It has new machine gun,reactive armor on the sides and on the tank turret and some little uprgrades.Its not comparable with tha Leopard 2a6 because the leopard has better protection,better mobility,and it has modern equipment in the tank to favorise the superiority on the ennemie tanks
Sorry but no. Max speed is the same for both tanks, but T-90S has greater mobility and acceleration off-road because of less weight.
As for protection Leo 2A6, like Abrams was meant for fighting in a hull down position, so his turret is very heavily armoured. But the glacis and body sides have less armour than on T-90. It basicaly comes down to rock-paper-scissors game.
Huh, where did you get that Idea? T-90 with modern ERA is well potected from the front, its also has a well shaped turret which is hard to hit even from the side o 45 deg angle. Sure if the tanks is penetrate, the crew is screwed but thats soviet doctine.
All that you say is true. I just want to add that if the enemy round penetrates, the crew is screwed only if round or the spall hit the spare ammo stored in the fighting compartment. Contrary to the popular belief the ready ammo stored in the autoloader's carousel is very low so the probability of a round to hit it is very small, and on top of that is protected from spall due to upper steel plate cover of the autoloader.
And all NATO tanks (except M1) store spare ammo in the fighting compartment as well. Leclerc and Leo2 store it right under the glacis plate on the driver's side, and Challenger 2 stores all of it's propelant charges and HESH rounds under the turret. So if any of these tanks are penetrated they will have their turrets fly up into the air and loose the crew.
Not true. Leclerc has a bustle autoloader that has all the ammo stored in the turret. Leopard 2 is the same way. Challenger 2 has all propellant charges in the hull but all warheads are in the turret. You can find lots of video to show this is true.
Yes, Leclerc has the bustle autoloader that holds 22 ready rounds. 18 spare rounds are stored by the driver in a hull rack. The same goes for Leo2, but the bustle magazine holds 15 ready rounds and the rest are stored in the hull on the left side of the driver. Here's a pic of Leo2A6's hull rack:
yeah thats very true... and today we have seen RPG-7 busting holes in M1A1s and the more armoured M1A2s also the Challenger 2 wich has the best armor atm in the world... if a RPG-7 rocket can penetrate a modern MBT think of what would happen if this deathcan got penetrated... the crew is screwed literally.. and for all who says its hard to hit the turret etc... let me inform you... RPGs are used mostly in urban enviroments on the modern battlefield about 30ms away.. making it easy to hit.
@TommyA9011 You are wrong the Abrams is able to withstand RPG-RPGs are not as powerful as movies make them out to be, and ive seen one explode before. Plus the Abrams has been hit many a times by RPGs and kept going as if nothing happened!!
@gosciu555 T90 faced modern Warheads of US 120mm Wolfram KE ammonition without penetration, but M1 never faced modern Warheads on his armour only old RPG rounds with 230-330mm RHA and even this rounds destroyed several M1 during Iraq war.The Dorchester Armour of M1 is only a Chobam armor that means it has only small plates of DU only on turret front thats not enough to call it better armoured than other tanks.Leo2 has 180 degrees ceramic plate chobam armour even more armoured than M1.
...it's stronger and more efficent than Leopard 2 A6, better protected (even the sides, back and the top), 360 degrees cameras, motion detectors, much better armament (autonomic wappon tower), scope for street fighting, better climatization etc...etc...
Leopard PSo is the best from the Leopard series and it has a lot of modern technology used in it, but it's not more powerfull than T90. The T-90 tank is protected by both conventional armour-plating and explosive reactive armour.
It is also fitted with NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) protection equipment.
It's range can get even to ~700km, and the maximum of the Leopard's range is ~500km.
The T-90 lost direct comparison against the Leo 2A4. But Leo 2A6 is still much better and Leo PSO in it's function for Military Operations in Urban Terrain anyway.
T-90: 1000 horsepower. Leo 2A5: 1500 PS. Leo-PSO: > 1500 PS
Leopard 2 has the same speed as T-90. T-90 has a weaker engine, but less weight also. Their max speed is the same off road. T-90S has a 1000bhp engine and is faster with greater acceleration than Leopard 2 on rough terrain.
Leopard 2 has thicker armour on the turret, but is less armoured on the glacis and the sides of the body than T-90.
As far as competition with abrams is concerned its a fact that abrams is dominative only in technological-intelligence sector but in everything rest its less reliable.You see Russians create cheap and top quality weapons but americans create top technological weapons which however cost FAAAAAR too much and are not sufficient to win in a batlefield against russians good example is the f-22 raptor.Sence the difference now???
top technological weapons? i hope you realize the abrahams is chosen over the t-9- becuase its safety features.. not technological advantage. the russians and americans are always making good radars and good missiles as well good systems.
you are wrong kingofpuntland.If you say that it means that you don't know the characteristics of both tanks.T-72 lacks in almost everything except for manouverability.T-90 in less faster than T-80 about 618kW compared to 932kW of T-80 In addition the T-90 has many improvements in defence:active ERA protection,shtora and in some cases with Drozd system.Generally talking T-72 is not reliable like T-90 or T80.
look its a tank and let get the facts. this t-72 t-90 tank can probly handle an abrams and challenger with no problem. it depend on how good the tank crew is. plus the abram uses depleted uranium shells which give it a bigger punch in fire power.
T90..why it looks so much panhzer MK VII? russian tiefs ak47..looks like nazi german mp 44 strürmgevehr...russia have dont make non of their wepons TIEFS
I agree, bigcats30... and it's on an individual tank crew basis, so in reality if there were a tank battle between Abram,Leopard,Challenger or T-90... the tank with the best crew will have the advantage, and not any one feature of the tank itself.
visually it's smaller since the chargemen was replaced with automatic loader in first T-72s and T-64s. Nontheless smooth-bore main gun caliber is 125-mm with "Svir" ATGMs launcher (5 km killing range). Main gun and fire control taken from T-80U with upgraded auxiliary ballistic calclating devices and infrared thermal sights. + optional French thermal sights for buyers.
Plus active protection system increase survavability against ATGMs aimed to hit upper semi-sphere of the turret (weak point on all tanks). The system is completely automatic that reduce reaction time to take proper measures to avoid troubles.
russian tanks are very differnt in many ways to western tanks because there a shit load smaller shit load fast and have a 125mm gun....but it all depends on how good the crews are at the end of the day
T-90 as a successor of T-72 BM (that with Kontakt 5 reactive armor) is intended for destruction of tanks and other armoured targets, or enemy manpower. the T-90 uses the gun and 1G46 gunner sights from T-80U, a new engine, and thermal sights. Protective measures include Kontakt-5 ERA, laser warning receivers, and the SHTORA infrared ATGM jamming system.
M1 abrams, hands down, is the best tank in the world. But, the T-90 is cheaper and easier to manufacture, that's really the only thing it has over all other modern tanks
Actually the best tank in the world is the German Leopard. The next tank they put into the field will be even better. Thank God the Germans are beginning to return to their proud military legacy, such as renaming some of their divisions after their WWII counterparts. The world needs a rejuvenated German Army with the same fighting capabilities they had in WWII.
the t-90 is not the best tank id go witha us m1 abrams ora uk challenger during the egypt and israel war the israelies us m1 abrams took out a hole lot of egypts russian t-90 the us m1 abrams ia a way better tank.
You're an idiot aren't you?Israel never used the M1.Egypt uses the M1 but never used the T-90 nor evaluated it.I'll piss myself laughing when a T-90 takes out an M1 or Challenger 2 with a 9M119M Relfex missle.
I'm sorry my fellow Americans don't understand that just because the American military uses a certain weapons system, it doesn't make it the best at everything...
Actually if you look on the latest Military Welfare charts, you will notice Russia lacks certain military attributes (i.e weak navy), where as america more or less balanceds it out. Now the scary thing is that russia has the worlds biggest collection of Tanks and ground vechiles: over 22000+ where as america still bogged down to around 2-3000 ground vechiles.
Tanks, aircraft count for nothing, if a full scale thermonuclear war breaks out, it doesnt matter anymmore.
The United States doesn't worry about such things though because of the unlikelihood of a ground war with Russia. Better to put your money into a navy (somebody's been reading Alfred Thayer Mahan, haven't they) that could meet the Russians on the high seas, right?
no actually russias militia is the greatest in numbers, US has less but theyre considered stronger because they have more technology, and 3rd is turkeys army.
haha XD you silly idiots never seace to amaze me... you want proof that russian military is not only superior in technology ut in numbers as well... personal message me and ill make you eat your words you little bitch!
On the tanks there have never been kills other than mobility kills from RPGs.Nice try though.Many have survived 20 plus RPG strikes and for every one severely damaged there have been enormous numbers of attempts.The number of insurgents killed trying is beyond huge.
yeah... m16 will jam easily in firefight that lasts more than 2 hours, but the ak-47 wont(ak47 was developped in ww2) now the russians are using ak-107's wich are more powerful than m16
actually over 210 US soldiers have died in the M1 abrams... the T-80 and T-90 wont explode like the T-72 did... yes ill admit the T-72 is not a good tank... which is what the iraqis used the reason it was a bad tank was because the ammo was unprotected but in the T-80/90 not only has the tanks armor changed the ammo is also heavily armored inside the tank so it wont explode if its hit but it would never be hit anyway because missiles cant hit the T-80/90
Considering the number of attempts by the insurgents 1500 damaged is not a bad number.Most of the damage is quickly repaired too.Russian tanks would have their turrets sitting on the road.
An awesome vehicle. Russian tanks will always be far more reliable than their western counterparts due to the extreme and harsh home environment in which they must operate. WWII was decided in the soviets favour at the battle of kursk where they out performed and outgunned the nazi panzer divisions at every level. the m1 and now the israeli merkhava have been demonstrated under battlefield conditions to be over hyped and completely outdated.
Our M1A2s have known track records while the T90s have still need to face compatible opposing MBTs. Spending a big part of my life as a tanker, I wouldn't envy the 3-man crew pulling even the most basic of maintenance; imagine missing a flesh and blood loader to help with everything else around the track! That's extra strains, stress and responsibilities onto Russian tankers that are not as well trained, educated and motivated as our own.
General, I do not mean to offend anyone. U call yourself 'General', then U should know that in any conflicts, innocents will always suffer. I was OPFOR officer for my unit and trained in the doctines, tactics and in this case, mindsets of the enemies. For the Russian military, there have been shortages of ammo, POLs & supplies. My humble opinion, we do have some of the best armored units and tanks in the world. Then, of cos I am also very bias toward our own Treadheads.
It is highly doubtful that the US has the best armored forces in the world. The only two nations that really know how to build tanks and use them are Russians and Germans. After all, M1 is a pale copy of German Leopards. M1s performed well against outdated Iraqi T-55s and T-62s in the Desert Storm. But the war in Iraq today clearly shows that M1A2s, whose side armor is easily penetrated even by the outdated RPG-7s, is clearly not a good tank.
Compatible? If you mean cold war soviet tanks like the T-72, 62 and 54/55, the you're right. If you mean challenger 2, Leopard 2, Leclerc, and the T-90, then...nope.
and russia have more combat experience then usa, because of, we are fighting most of the time in chechnya, befor that it was afganisthan. you are not fighting in irak and afghanistan, you just stand ther, or pople them self killing eachother. and you have FN that helps you, and other allied contries. you point is?
The American military is best suited for large scale engagements against modern armies. The same problems we are facing in Iraq and Afghanistan are the same Russia faced in the 80's against the Afghans. The US mil. performed near-flawless in the initial attack against Iraq because they used their modern weapons and sophisticated maneuver. The Air Force, Navy, Army, and Marine Corp are so beyond advanced in technology and experience no other military could stop them on open ground.
Purina was just awarded the contract to supply food for the Russian army.
HauptmannAmerica 7 months ago
Самый крутой танк в мире )
Freepoll1 8 months ago
T90 training? Great oxymoron. When the crew isn't standing around smoking and bullshitting, they're eating dog food or swilling vodka like the poor drunk bastards they are. That wonderful carousel ammo system is another great design too. Tell your engineers and scientists to sober up, late 80's technology won't cut it on the modern battlefield. Any 120mm sabot would turn this hunk of crap into a giant ashtray.
HauptmannAmerica 8 months ago
@HauptmannAmerica You only think this way because you got a false impression of Russian tank performance from the war in Iraq. What you fail to understand is that the T72 used by Iraq were T72M's and T72M1's, as well as their locally produced Lion of Babylon, which were all export version of the original T72A. These export models were less than half as capable than the original designs. Look it up! Search up "monkey models" on google, first link.
Unit987654321 8 months ago
@HauptmannAmerica its a 44 seconds video you fucking bitch !
TheDima999 7 months ago
@TheDima999 Thank you. Let's see, if I'm a country that prefers to import it's arms and equipment and I'm looking for a MBT with an autoloader, the T90 wouldn't even be on my list. You could try to compare the Leclerc to the T90 from a conceptual standpoint, but the build quality and fire control system of the Leclerc is so much better, that the T90 looks like it was cobbled together by a bunch of drunken engineers and welders.
HauptmannAmerica 7 months ago
@HauptmannAmerica hahah ... t-90 best ! t-90 kanon in your ass and you down !
TheDima999 7 months ago
@HauptmannAmerica You are stupid and have no fucking idea of T90, only 4 tanks in world have full digital fire controlling system, T90S,T90MS,Leclerc and Merkava so and the Kalina fire control systeme is knowday the best fire control systeme in the world.And what you call shit control systeme built from drunken engeneers holds the world record of 7 target in 54 seconds, kid go fuck yourself stupid brainwashed american.
Talshet 2 months ago
@Talshet Time to sober up. The M1A2 has a digital fire control system that would shame the T90 and it still has enough room on the turret floor to show your mom a good time. Kiss my American ass.
HauptmannAmerica 2 months ago
@HauptmannAmerica belive what you want the Kalina Fire "full" digital fire control systeme is the best in the world nowdays.Its the newst and can follow targets behind buildings etc. M1 fire control systeme is already 12 years old it cant face the nowdays fire control systemes.Even russian BMP3 and BMD3/4 have full digital fire control systemes can destroy modern MBT from 7km range,because the barrel has dralls.
Talshet 2 months ago
M1 Abrams: technology
T90: range
Remember though, tanks are tools, it is the crew's job to operate them correctly.
Robloxsaltytaco1234 11 months ago
the thing about russian tanks it, you have to slow down or stop or turn if you want to do something with the turret. all the other tanks can go full sped and youcan do anything with the turret
nunchuck19 1 year ago
@nunchuck19 this is complete bullshit.... learn more about the hardware you're speaking of or stop trolling...
Cnupoc 1 year ago
Лучше или хуже будет видно только тогда, когда танки на поле боя встретятся.
iloverebeccachambers 1 year ago
@iloverebeccachambers yeah got every word of that
djdilligaf76 1 year ago
americans arguing aginst russians, how nice, especially for someone whos from germany. Just accept that we are the best engineers ;)
Leopard 2 PSO
2ab6 1 year ago
@2ab6
Der Leopard ist wenn man jede einzelne Disziplin die bei einem Panzer Wichtig ist ganz vorne. Vor M1, Merkava und T 90. Das einzigste Problem ist nur T 90 hat Arena, ERA1 und Shtora 1. Merkava hat RA und Trophy, und der M1 hat auch RA und Iron fist was eigentlich Isrealische Technology ist was Amys ja nicht gebacken bekommen. Der Leopard kann nur mit RA ausgerüstet werden ein System wie Shtora oder Arena, Iron Fist oder Trophy hat er allerdings nicht, dass macht ihn sehr viel schwächer.
Talshet 8 months ago
@Talshet stimmt nicht ! nicht in jeder der leopard kann net in der luft schießen weil er viel zu schwer ist und bis er seine kanone bewegt schießt in der t-90 panzer 3 ma ab ... t-90 worde gemacht klein und schnell
TheDima999 7 months ago
@patrikasLTL Before you argue, baby, you figure it out in terms of, you're confusing "Shtora" and "Arena". "Blind" is put in a regular manner at all T-90 is present. "Arena" is put further.
maks86861 1 year ago
its quite funny how some kids argue about things they dont even know anything about it
99% if you havent even seen a real tank infront of you
gazakind 1 year ago 3
@patrikasLTL thts nice isnt it
we should fill a show tank with nukes and all
and ruin all the secrecy abt all the efforts
u my frnd are a genuis
also im using language of ur level thts why its so rudimentary
themasterbutchertm 1 year ago
@patrikasLTL how stupid of some ppl right??
they didnt load the T-90 to the max before the show
according to that bullshit they should load airshow aircraft with nukes huh?
retard fucking noob
themasterbutchertm 1 year ago
Does T90 have separate ammunition compartments or is the ammo stored in the hull like in the T72?
longbowgold67 2 years ago
I was thinking of asking the same thing. I've read that M-84AS (M-84 is a Yugoslav MBT derivative of T-72M. M-84AS is an upgrade with the same systems used on T-90A) has extra ammo (the ammo that is not in the autoloader) stored in a compartment with blow-out panels.
Iggy82xl 2 years ago
Yes but the M84 has even been better then the Russian T72s. It's almost a separate tank. Also I believe there are some videos showing how a T90's auto loader works so I think that should say something.
longbowgold67 2 years ago
Good point and I would agree with you
leadman1979 2 years ago
Its a modernized T72 so no.
gosciu555 2 years ago
That's not quite what I mean. I mean did they change the autoloader, making it a more bustle style autoloader like the Leclerc or Type 90 or did they do something else or just leave it the same as the T72.
longbowgold67 2 years ago
It's the same as in T-72. The reason is the ammo. T-90 (and other russian tanks) uses a separate round and propelant charge, like Challenger 2. Such ammo needs the carousel autoloader.
Iggy82xl 2 years ago
Rocks!
fitnessmaster 2 years ago
1 vs 1:
LEO wins!
most precious cannon (though the T-90 is small it hits!), faster, more powerful, best tank eva!
95predator 2 years ago
1 vs 1
m1 abrams suck!
KiLLeR12007SerJo 2 years ago 3
@KiLLeR12007SerJo The Abrams would destroy the T-90 before it could get a shot off-besides the M1 is designed to take a hit while a T-90 couldnt!! Its been proven!!
MrJosephguy 1 year ago
@MrJosephguy доказано то что помойка абрамс горит после 1 попадания устаревшей гранаты РПГ-7. А ещё доказано то что Т-90 стреляет управляемой ракетой на расстояние в 5 км. Ваш абрамс будет уничтожен на расстоянии в 5 км, при максимальной дальностиполёта вашего снаряда в 2-2,5км
KiLLeR12007SerJo 1 year ago 3
@KiLLeR12007SerJo um... i only speak english...sorry
MrJosephguy 1 year ago
@MrJosephguy use internet translator ...
KiLLeR12007SerJo 1 year ago
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@MrJosephguy when and where it was proven?
MAXZINX 1 year ago
@MrJosephguy T-90 has longer range. It is engaging enemy tanks with missiles.
zipacna1980 11 months ago
@zipacna1980: Your Missiles are called ATGM ( Anti Tank Guided Missile ) The T-90 can shoot the 9K119 Refleks in the West called AT-11 Sniper. It has a maximum Range of 5km. The Leopard 2 & the Merkava can shoot the LAHAT with 8km Range. The M1 Abrams can shoot the MRM-KE, which has a maximum Range of 12km. Do you notice something?
TankNutJohn89 9 months ago
@TankNutJohn89
The T-90 got Shtora 1 soon Shtora 2, the ERA in tandem version too and Arena. Shtora will protect against any Guided Missle doesn't matter from wich Range its fired. Leopard, Merkava and M1 dont got this kind of system. and the Iron Fist like the Trophy system are good Systems but cant hold against Mach 6 tandem initiaded 9K113 Refleks M. It initiade an explosion from a range infront of target about 100-50 and reach the Mach 6 tempo and the Iron Fist cant react in Mach 6.
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conceil8 2 years ago
Great tank !
xwarden2 2 years ago
In fact. Who will win , more quickly to put the sight and shot.
dancecosmic 3 years ago
T-90 ... T-800 .... Т-1000
dancecosmic 3 years ago 3
T-1000 you mean the terminator from the future? It's here already? LOL
lon9i9 3 years ago
" Smerch " watch?v=Sq-TRC_z7TQ
"Pantsir " v=Zt2hEaKLULE
+ Artificial Intelligence. Thought.
dancecosmic 3 years ago
That tank is breakfast for an A-10
lon9i9 3 years ago
actually..any tank is breakfast for a A-10 cuz no tank can survive its missiles
silentXinXtheXshadow 3 years ago
"a breakfast"
Hahaha!
Very Hollywood movie phrase.
You need another kind of "arguments".
Zhukovheroe 3 years ago
The A-10 with its cannon will make that tank into swiss cheese, instantly.
lon9i9 3 years ago
Haha!
You are hungry, man.
Want some mayonnaise?
My cannon is ready to shoot!
Hahaha!
Zhukovheroe 3 years ago
LOL T90?
lon9i9 3 years ago
It all makes sense, A-10 is a tank killer, so T-90 is breakfast for A-10, A-10 is breakfast for the Tunguska-M1 and since Tunguskas are within tank groups, A-10 will be scrap before any T-90 will be.
vtkrey 3 years ago
Stealth A-10 FTW!
lon9i9 3 years ago
Hehe.
vtkrey 3 years ago
Nazi Germany boast "Panther." When the Soviet tanks came to the "Panther" After the first hit, the second Hitlerite flee, forgetting to stop the tank.
dancecosmic 3 years ago
GAU-8 cant penetrate T-90 armor in any case. And Hellfire could be easily jamed by Shtora and hardkilled by ARENA systems. Not to mention that T-90 uses ATGMs not only to ground tanks by against helicopters and planes. Plus it has 125mm HE rounds with remote detonator and can use it as AA cannon. Plus it has very precise 12,7mm remote controlled KORD HMG on turret.
MarshallJukov 3 years ago
The AGM-114L is a true fire-and-forget weapon; it requires no further guidance after launch and can hit its target without the launcher being in line of sight of the target.The T-90 can neither jam nor defend against the newest Hellfire.
leadman1979 2 years ago
Nooope)))) "fire and forget" means IR and AR guildance without external correction))) That is why T-90 have Shtora ))) To jam such missiles in IR and Radio bands of EM ;))) You need a lot to learn - the more missile autonomous in target tracking - the more it vulnerable to any kind of jamming)))
Oh sorry - and M1A2 does NOT uses AGM-114L ;)))
P.S. T-90 can use Invar to shot down Ah-64 and can use Ainet 125mm rounds as AA weapon))) + 12,5 remote controlled HMG ;))
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
Shtora would have no effect on the newest Hellfire and the T90 can only fire on a helicopter it sees prior to being destroyed.
leadman1979 2 years ago
Yeah - hellfire uses some voooodoooo maaagick that our maaaagick cant affectt it - sure - americans use very powerful` and versatil` maaagick - russs afraid
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
I'm glad you understand.Yes,compared to that primitive ruSSian vacuum tube stuff it does seem like magic
leadman1979 2 years ago
Nope - i just cant take your stupid posts seriously anymore - that`s all.;))))
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
The general said that even the T-90 -- which is considered a modern unit and with which only the elite Kantemirovskaya and Tamanskaya tank divisions will be equipped by 2010 -- is outdated and no BIMS will be installed on it. That is to say, in battlefield conditions Russian tanks will still be shooting in the dark.
leadman1979 2 years ago
Мы тебя гниду - если надо на ощупь найдем и в землю живьем гусеницами зароем вместе с твоим М1 - нам на такое говно снарядов жалко - не говоря уже о ракетах. А надо будет мы вас саперными лопатками по морде уделаем мало не покажется.
MarshallJukov 2 years ago 2
As far as what the M1 uses it will use whatever we configure it for.The Abrams is a very versatile weapons platform.
leadman1979 2 years ago
i read your comments and i think that it doesn't matter if a hellfire rocket can destroy a T-90 tank...because in an event of war between Russia and USA they'll use all their nuclear ICBMs and cripple (if not destroy) each other and a big part of the world...So stop arguing because the Russians and Americans (and the rest of the world for that matter) will regret if they wage war on each other
bloodz1311 2 years ago
MarshallJukov, do you really think I would be that easy to jam a hellfire? The new hellfire (AGM-114K Hellfire II) is specificaly designed to operate in severe electronic countermeasures. It has a Millimeter wave radar seeker and NO IR or AR guidance. It's almost impossible to jam
LoyalRebelion 2 years ago
Yes yes we heard it before
sadly for you NO ANY ONE HARM in Serbia hit radars - it hit only decoys there.
Also warhed is always less resistant to jam than stationary electronics.
And in your style: Shtora specialy designed to jam Hellfire and similar systems - it is almost impossible to breach it
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
Shtora is easy to defeat
leadman1979 2 years ago
Shtora is unique and ultra modern system and almost impossible to defeat. No other country has it.
AlexanderTch 2 years ago
It is a rather dated system
leadman1979 2 years ago
What??? Actualy we wiped out most of the serbian radars. And the new AGM-114K Hellfire II was not used in serbia. It has simplified/secured electronics. Every part in AGM-114K Hellfire II is designed to defeat systems like shtora. The javelin can also defeat shtora because it has top attack and impact-force detonation and simplified electronics. Shtora is a great system. One of the best in the world. But It's not invincible
LoyalRebelion 2 years ago
Actualy no S-125 radar was destroyed in Serbia at all - only decoys - Serbians just used it in passive mode (IR) and tirned it on only to launch missiles- those radars is still there and fully operational - despite over 32000 NATO flight missions.
And Shtora is also costantly upgraded system - ever heard of Shrota 2? Also only Russian tanks have significant protection on the roof.
MarshallJukov 2 years ago
thats what F-22a air supremacy is for :-)
Archangel292 2 years ago
F-22 is very fragile.
vtkrey 2 years ago 5
because it can be.... you can't see it :-)
Archangel292 2 years ago
I can see it just fine.
vtkrey 2 years ago
not on a radar screen
Archangel292 2 years ago
Hehe...
vtkrey 2 years ago
This not modernized T-72!This t-90!!!On arm and protection T-90 and Leopard 2 is approximately equal!
On shots in minute Leopard 2 official champion, but T-90 does on 1 shot been bigger in the same conditions, what and Leopard 2!!!!!
Were not able to punch reservation of tank, shooting on her shot from gun that is equal on power to gun of Abramsютак with the most modern shells and reservation was not again punched, moreover tank went with power in part!!
lIlyTnik 3 years ago
A T-90 is, basiclly, a heavily upgraded T-72.
Rabel2136 3 years ago
LoL! T-90 & T-80AT and is basic !))
And is shown here to Т-90 but not heavily upgraded T-72.
lIlyTnik 3 years ago
no! T-90 is the new modern tank! In him far thicker and heavier armour, absolutely other tower, and shells with uranium, that helps without obstacles to destroy any tanks!
shepard39 3 years ago
This a uprgraded T-72. It has new machine gun,reactive armor on the sides and on the tank turret and some little uprgrades.Its not comparable with tha Leopard 2a6 because the leopard has better protection,better mobility,and it has modern equipment in the tank to favorise the superiority on the ennemie tanks
ukraina95 3 years ago
Sorry but no. Max speed is the same for both tanks, but T-90S has greater mobility and acceleration off-road because of less weight.
As for protection Leo 2A6, like Abrams was meant for fighting in a hull down position, so his turret is very heavily armoured. But the glacis and body sides have less armour than on T-90. It basicaly comes down to rock-paper-scissors game.
Iggy82xl 2 years ago
Huh, where did you get that Idea? T-90 with modern ERA is well potected from the front, its also has a well shaped turret which is hard to hit even from the side o 45 deg angle. Sure if the tanks is penetrate, the crew is screwed but thats soviet doctine.
gosciu555 2 years ago 11
All that you say is true. I just want to add that if the enemy round penetrates, the crew is screwed only if round or the spall hit the spare ammo stored in the fighting compartment. Contrary to the popular belief the ready ammo stored in the autoloader's carousel is very low so the probability of a round to hit it is very small, and on top of that is protected from spall due to upper steel plate cover of the autoloader.
Iggy82xl 2 years ago
And all NATO tanks (except M1) store spare ammo in the fighting compartment as well. Leclerc and Leo2 store it right under the glacis plate on the driver's side, and Challenger 2 stores all of it's propelant charges and HESH rounds under the turret. So if any of these tanks are penetrated they will have their turrets fly up into the air and loose the crew.
Iggy82xl 2 years ago
Not true. Leclerc has a bustle autoloader that has all the ammo stored in the turret. Leopard 2 is the same way. Challenger 2 has all propellant charges in the hull but all warheads are in the turret. You can find lots of video to show this is true.
longbowgold67 2 years ago
Yes, Leclerc has the bustle autoloader that holds 22 ready rounds. 18 spare rounds are stored by the driver in a hull rack. The same goes for Leo2, but the bustle magazine holds 15 ready rounds and the rest are stored in the hull on the left side of the driver. Here's a pic of Leo2A6's hull rack:
img28 . picoodle . com/img/img28/2/7/2/rossomak2/f_zagatkam_a64a9be . jpg
And Challenger 2 only stores APFSDS rounds in the turret bustle. HESH rounds are in the fighting compartment with propelants.
Iggy82xl 2 years ago
yeah thats very true... and today we have seen RPG-7 busting holes in M1A1s and the more armoured M1A2s also the Challenger 2 wich has the best armor atm in the world... if a RPG-7 rocket can penetrate a modern MBT think of what would happen if this deathcan got penetrated... the crew is screwed literally.. and for all who says its hard to hit the turret etc... let me inform you... RPGs are used mostly in urban enviroments on the modern battlefield about 30ms away.. making it easy to hit.
TommyA9011 2 years ago
@TommyA9011 You are wrong the Abrams is able to withstand RPG-RPGs are not as powerful as movies make them out to be, and ive seen one explode before. Plus the Abrams has been hit many a times by RPGs and kept going as if nothing happened!!
MrJosephguy 1 year ago
@MrJosephguy So, what you're saying is that an MBT-LAW wouldn't turn any tank in the world into a gigantic rust bucket? Pleeease.
Midfrost1 1 year ago
@gosciu555
wuahahaha... "...the crew is screwed but thats soviet doctine..."
Rightleggedleftback 2 years ago
@gosciu555 T90 faced modern Warheads of US 120mm Wolfram KE ammonition without penetration, but M1 never faced modern Warheads on his armour only old RPG rounds with 230-330mm RHA and even this rounds destroyed several M1 during Iraq war.The Dorchester Armour of M1 is only a Chobam armor that means it has only small plates of DU only on turret front thats not enough to call it better armoured than other tanks.Leo2 has 180 degrees ceramic plate chobam armour even more armoured than M1.
Talshet 2 months ago
dont forget the t90 has also better mobility
KingstonCS 3 years ago
Best tank is the brandnew Leopard PSO.
Look watch?v=57HwH-fBJNw&fmt=18
or much better: watch?v=evkVYniJx7E&fmt=18
...since minute 03:40
...it's stronger and more efficent than Leopard 2 A6, better protected (even the sides, back and the top), 360 degrees cameras, motion detectors, much better armament (autonomic wappon tower), scope for street fighting, better climatization etc...etc...
Cre7tiv 3 years ago
Leopard PSo is the best from the Leopard series and it has a lot of modern technology used in it, but it's not more powerfull than T90. The T-90 tank is protected by both conventional armour-plating and explosive reactive armour.
It is also fitted with NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) protection equipment.
It's range can get even to ~700km, and the maximum of the Leopard's range is ~500km.
xxx0denxxx 3 years ago 2
The T-90 lost direct comparison against the Leo 2A4. But Leo 2A6 is still much better and Leo PSO in it's function for Military Operations in Urban Terrain anyway.
T-90: 1000 horsepower. Leo 2A5: 1500 PS. Leo-PSO: > 1500 PS
Cre7tiv 3 years ago
OK - the Leopard has better speed and electronics, but the operative range, firepower and the armour are much better at the T-90 tank...
Just wait for T-95 all leo fans would be shocked.
xxx0denxxx 3 years ago
Better cannon in T-90 then L55 ?
Or Rh 120 LLR L/47?
I don't believe
Cre7tiv 3 years ago
Leopard 2 has the same speed as T-90. T-90 has a weaker engine, but less weight also. Their max speed is the same off road. T-90S has a 1000bhp engine and is faster with greater acceleration than Leopard 2 on rough terrain.
Leopard 2 has thicker armour on the turret, but is less armoured on the glacis and the sides of the body than T-90.
Iggy82xl 2 years ago
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Thefizzle420 3 years ago
As far as competition with abrams is concerned its a fact that abrams is dominative only in technological-intelligence sector but in everything rest its less reliable.You see Russians create cheap and top quality weapons but americans create top technological weapons which however cost FAAAAAR too much and are not sufficient to win in a batlefield against russians good example is the f-22 raptor.Sence the difference now???
vendetta007mike 3 years ago
top technological weapons? i hope you realize the abrahams is chosen over the t-9- becuase its safety features.. not technological advantage. the russians and americans are always making good radars and good missiles as well good systems.
sovietamerican2 3 years ago
you are wrong kingofpuntland.If you say that it means that you don't know the characteristics of both tanks.T-72 lacks in almost everything except for manouverability.T-90 in less faster than T-80 about 618kW compared to 932kW of T-80 In addition the T-90 has many improvements in defence:active ERA protection,shtora and in some cases with Drozd system.Generally talking T-72 is not reliable like T-90 or T80.
vendetta007mike 3 years ago
look its a tank and let get the facts. this t-72 t-90 tank can probly handle an abrams and challenger with no problem. it depend on how good the tank crew is. plus the abram uses depleted uranium shells which give it a bigger punch in fire power.
Ericjr10912 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This is just another version of the T72 it would stand no chance against the American abram tank or the British challenger tank.
kingofpuntland 3 years ago
You're not a smart motherfucker, now are you?
GeneralPaccepa 3 years ago
3 letters...
TOW
JuggaloTheRolla 3 years ago
look inside ak47 and mp44 and try to post smth sensible after
egoms 3 years ago
T90..why it looks so much panhzer MK VII? russian tiefs ak47..looks like nazi german mp 44 strürmgevehr...russia have dont make non of their wepons TIEFS
laupiaslammas 3 years ago
an ak has no recoil loadup system like the mp44. the design is not any important. the funcions and the reliability are the most important things
HarisPiltonTWO 3 years ago
an ak has no recoil loadup system like the mp44. the design is not any important. the funcions and the reliability are the most important things
HarisPiltonTWO 3 years ago
panzer tank must stop when want to shoot, t90 can shoot when the tank still moving. i think t-90 one of the best tank in the world
batrezz 3 years ago
I think the missle the T-90 can fire would give it a huge advantage over any tank that cant fire one.
Killazer 3 years ago
bigcats30 agreed. I think the same. Well-trained and experienced crew!
IgoRAZ12345 4 years ago
I agree, bigcats30... and it's on an individual tank crew basis, so in reality if there were a tank battle between Abram,Leopard,Challenger or T-90... the tank with the best crew will have the advantage, and not any one feature of the tank itself.
biggee316 4 years ago
I dunno... T-90 looks outdated compaired to Leopard, Challenger and Abram...
biggee316 4 years ago
visually it's smaller since the chargemen was replaced with automatic loader in first T-72s and T-64s. Nontheless smooth-bore main gun caliber is 125-mm with "Svir" ATGMs launcher (5 km killing range). Main gun and fire control taken from T-80U with upgraded auxiliary ballistic calclating devices and infrared thermal sights. + optional French thermal sights for buyers.
IgoRAZ12345 4 years ago
Plus active protection system increase survavability against ATGMs aimed to hit upper semi-sphere of the turret (weak point on all tanks). The system is completely automatic that reduce reaction time to take proper measures to avoid troubles.
IgoRAZ12345 4 years ago
russian tanks are very differnt in many ways to western tanks because there a shit load smaller shit load fast and have a 125mm gun....but it all depends on how good the crews are at the end of the day
bigcats30 4 years ago
T-90 as a successor of T-72 BM (that with Kontakt 5 reactive armor) is intended for destruction of tanks and other armoured targets, or enemy manpower. the T-90 uses the gun and 1G46 gunner sights from T-80U, a new engine, and thermal sights. Protective measures include Kontakt-5 ERA, laser warning receivers, and the SHTORA infrared ATGM jamming system.
IgoRAZ12345 4 years ago 2
Thanks for the info! I'd like to see you back soon :)
GeneralPaccepa 4 years ago
Abrams is bull shit vs T -90 like all american weapons just for kill pure noobs but not serve for real armys
svecivanka 4 years ago
yeah cuz we all know the a-10 cant destroy your tanks.
cartman2394 4 years ago
and we know the tanguska can shot the a-10 down...
T80s 4 years ago 2
M1 abrams, hands down, is the best tank in the world. But, the T-90 is cheaper and easier to manufacture, that's really the only thing it has over all other modern tanks
Evilgmk102 4 years ago
Actually the best tank in the world is the German Leopard. The next tank they put into the field will be even better. Thank God the Germans are beginning to return to their proud military legacy, such as renaming some of their divisions after their WWII counterparts. The world needs a rejuvenated German Army with the same fighting capabilities they had in WWII.
jstlx 4 years ago
the t-90 is not the best tank id go witha us m1 abrams ora uk challenger during the egypt and israel war the israelies us m1 abrams took out a hole lot of egypts russian t-90 the us m1 abrams ia a way better tank.
pacmanmvhs 4 years ago
You're an idiot aren't you?Israel never used the M1.Egypt uses the M1 but never used the T-90 nor evaluated it.I'll piss myself laughing when a T-90 takes out an M1 or Challenger 2 with a 9M119M Relfex missle.
lalalman2 4 years ago
As a canadian, I can say that, I don't really give a shit, because our polar bears with mounted guns do a better job, and liek, yeah...
(=P)
emicket 4 years ago
As a Romanian, I can say that, you can suck my cock.
GeneralPaccepa 4 years ago
I'm sorry my fellow Americans don't understand that just because the American military uses a certain weapons system, it doesn't make it the best at everything...
skankuser 4 years ago
Actually if you look on the latest Military Welfare charts, you will notice Russia lacks certain military attributes (i.e weak navy), where as america more or less balanceds it out. Now the scary thing is that russia has the worlds biggest collection of Tanks and ground vechiles: over 22000+ where as america still bogged down to around 2-3000 ground vechiles.
Tanks, aircraft count for nothing, if a full scale thermonuclear war breaks out, it doesnt matter anymmore.
FreeandIndependent 4 years ago
The United States doesn't worry about such things though because of the unlikelihood of a ground war with Russia. Better to put your money into a navy (somebody's been reading Alfred Thayer Mahan, haven't they) that could meet the Russians on the high seas, right?
skankuser 4 years ago
Shut up u dumb bitch russia is WEAK.
DrGreenthumb406 4 years ago
no actually russias militia is the greatest in numbers, US has less but theyre considered stronger because they have more technology, and 3rd is turkeys army.
glebbukov 4 years ago
Fuck you punk faggot racist.
Z971 4 years ago
haha XD you silly idiots never seace to amaze me... you want proof that russian military is not only superior in technology ut in numbers as well... personal message me and ill make you eat your words you little bitch!
russia is the most advanced military in the world
bittemeinrammstein 4 years ago
Russian weapons kick ass! Want proof of this then watch vidoes of american soldiers in Iraq, many of them are using AK's over the standard US issue.
frozenballs1 4 years ago
sdbolts are you still playing with your sisters doll or are you borrowing t80's
brewer1552 4 years ago
On the tanks there have never been kills other than mobility kills from RPGs.Nice try though.Many have survived 20 plus RPG strikes and for every one severely damaged there have been enormous numbers of attempts.The number of insurgents killed trying is beyond huge.
tuber1554 4 years ago
That's because insurgents are noobs. They need newer hardware, instead of all of Russia's old shit.
Tilaron 4 years ago 2
Well, they sure as hell don't need unreliable Yankee junk. Who wants to be a walking corpse, after all?
SovietWarrior 4 years ago
Unreliable?
Tilaron 4 years ago
yeah... m16 will jam easily in firefight that lasts more than 2 hours, but the ak-47 wont(ak47 was developped in ww2) now the russians are using ak-107's wich are more powerful than m16
Playncooler 3 years ago
The m16 isn't the only rifle being used by the US, infact it's probably the least used rifle they have.
Tilaron 3 years ago
It is the only rifle being used. The variants are M16A1, A2, A3, and A4. Also the M4, and, A1.
jjhays36 3 years ago
actually over 210 US soldiers have died in the M1 abrams... the T-80 and T-90 wont explode like the T-72 did... yes ill admit the T-72 is not a good tank... which is what the iraqis used the reason it was a bad tank was because the ammo was unprotected but in the T-80/90 not only has the tanks armor changed the ammo is also heavily armored inside the tank so it wont explode if its hit but it would never be hit anyway because missiles cant hit the T-80/90
bittemeinrammstein 4 years ago
T-72 was good in it's time though.:D
lalalman2 4 years ago 2
Considering the number of attempts by the insurgents 1500 damaged is not a bad number.Most of the damage is quickly repaired too.Russian tanks would have their turrets sitting on the road.
tuber1554 4 years ago
And tanks which kill their crews.Russian tanks were never known for crew protection.
tuber1554 4 years ago
An awesome vehicle. Russian tanks will always be far more reliable than their western counterparts due to the extreme and harsh home environment in which they must operate. WWII was decided in the soviets favour at the battle of kursk where they out performed and outgunned the nazi panzer divisions at every level. the m1 and now the israeli merkhava have been demonstrated under battlefield conditions to be over hyped and completely outdated.
reality27 4 years ago
If only the C2 were being used ...
Tilaron 4 years ago
Our M1A2s have known track records while the T90s have still need to face compatible opposing MBTs. Spending a big part of my life as a tanker, I wouldn't envy the 3-man crew pulling even the most basic of maintenance; imagine missing a flesh and blood loader to help with everything else around the track! That's extra strains, stress and responsibilities onto Russian tankers that are not as well trained, educated and motivated as our own.
"If You Ain't Cav..."
cav1stlt 4 years ago
Well trained, educated, motivated? Excuse me? What tells you they are not well trained? or educated? Or motivated for that reason?
You are killing women and childern I don't call that motivation. Oh and that "protecting my country" is for idiots.
GeneralPaccepa 4 years ago
General, I do not mean to offend anyone. U call yourself 'General', then U should know that in any conflicts, innocents will always suffer. I was OPFOR officer for my unit and trained in the doctines, tactics and in this case, mindsets of the enemies. For the Russian military, there have been shortages of ammo, POLs & supplies. My humble opinion, we do have some of the best armored units and tanks in the world. Then, of cos I am also very bias toward our own Treadheads.
"If You Ain't Cav..."
cav1stlt 4 years ago
Well sorry for my post, written in anger.
Most modern conflicts do not need tanks I think.
GeneralPaccepa 4 years ago
It is highly doubtful that the US has the best armored forces in the world. The only two nations that really know how to build tanks and use them are Russians and Germans. After all, M1 is a pale copy of German Leopards. M1s performed well against outdated Iraqi T-55s and T-62s in the Desert Storm. But the war in Iraq today clearly shows that M1A2s, whose side armor is easily penetrated even by the outdated RPG-7s, is clearly not a good tank.
Classicist2001 4 years ago 2
agreed
Playncooler 3 years ago
Compatible? If you mean cold war soviet tanks like the T-72, 62 and 54/55, the you're right. If you mean challenger 2, Leopard 2, Leclerc, and the T-90, then...nope.
cwjian90 4 years ago
Typcial Russian JUNK. From T54 to T90, russian tanks are overrated, unreliable and easily killed by Western tanks.
Oso1G 4 years ago
Excuse me but what is your profession?
Are you a military expert or an iron worker?
GeneralPaccepa 4 years ago
When you say "unreliable" do you really mean, the most reliable tanks in the world?
Brooklyn83 4 years ago
and russia have more combat experience then usa, because of, we are fighting most of the time in chechnya, befor that it was afganisthan. you are not fighting in irak and afghanistan, you just stand ther, or pople them self killing eachother. and you have FN that helps you, and other allied contries. you point is?
SovietSpetznaz 4 years ago
The American military is best suited for large scale engagements against modern armies. The same problems we are facing in Iraq and Afghanistan are the same Russia faced in the 80's against the Afghans. The US mil. performed near-flawless in the initial attack against Iraq because they used their modern weapons and sophisticated maneuver. The Air Force, Navy, Army, and Marine Corp are so beyond advanced in technology and experience no other military could stop them on open ground.
immature135 4 years ago
You sure about it?hehe
splcst659 4 years ago