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  • I’ll try to summarize some of the treatments that have helped multiple POIS members:

    Niacin (with flush), relora, fenugreek, saw palmetto, phosphatidylserine, antihistamines such as claritin and levocetirizine, testosterone patches, stimulants such as adderall and concerta, sublingual immunotherapy(SLIT), imitrex, and alcohol, are a sample of the many treatments we have found.

  • Yeah POIS sucks but i feel really sharp mentally and more relaxed when I avoid masturbating. Generally it affects me for a few days, but it also gives me mind fog that almost caused me to fail my math class but I stopped masturbating and my mind was sharp again. Doing random things like driving and video games with friends help me to avoid masturbating. I didn't do anything in a while so i feel good.

  • @gravityhammer25 yea, that's true, but it's also true that it's almost impossible avoid masturbating or ejaculating sex for a long period of time. I have tried several times, but i have always given up. Anyway, everyone here wants to marry and to have a normal sexual life, we can't live without sex for our whole lives...

  • BTW, has any of you ever tried with acupuncture? I guess this sydrome has something to do with a sexual energy disorder. I have read that acqupuncture helps to balance the energy and to distribute it along the different parts of the body. One thing I guess could help would be having sex without ejaculation, it's possible, there are some techniques based on chinese milenary medicine, however it's though to manage to dominate them...

  • @TERREMORO Interesting proposal worth following up on. I want to add that it is not just after orgasm but after hot sex or strong arousal which makes it even more difficult

  • @TERREMORO That Stuff ain't going to Work

  • Hi from Spain. Here another one suffering this syndrome. I have suffered this for the last 5 years (i am 22). It started when I joined the christian church when I was 16. Before that, I started to masturbate when I was 14. I masturbated 2 whole years without any problem. But then, when I joined that church I started feeling guilty after every masturbation and the syndrome appeared. It's so hard, I am very smart but I feel that I can't perform my best at all. Muscle tremors in face the worst...

  • and also Skin pains sometimes!

  • I am a 14 years old male, I have blurrey vision(first symptom) anxiety, muscle pains, stiff neck/shoulder pain, leg pains, flu-like symptoms, imbalance, groin-area pain(including my right ball) scratched-like back,dizziness, itchy/watery eyes, I don't really know what I have, Labyrinthitis/Vestibular Neuritis/P.O.I.S/or any tumor;(, Don't find it funny but I am cuming 2-3 times a day, and I have experienced this illness for 10weeks now, doctors can't fucking find nothing! please help...

  • I am a 23 year old woman with P.O.I.S. After an orgasm, I get cramps, nausea, decreased appetite, fatigue, and diarrhea. I have found that mint oil helps with the diarrhea, but I cannot drink coffee due to another dysautonomia that effects my heart. I hate this disease, but I am thankful for having such a loving and patient partner.

  • i've done my own tiny research and discovered that high doses of coffee kinda balance the symptoms.. coffee and vitamin b complex vitamin c and milk.. that's my secret...it relieves the tremors kinda surprisingly. thought coffee can cause tremors... but instead it cures it...but if you have heart condition.. be careful with the coffee.. it took me 8 years to know this... plus i've lost a lot because of this illness.. just try it

  • This exists and It's devastating in its effects. The worst aspect is that GPs don't have a clue what you're talking about and you're likely to be sent to a psychiatrist for general anxiety disorder. I've found something that alleviates the symptoms. A double dose (1g each) of spirulina and chlorella. I believe that some of the negative effects are caused by depletion of catecholamines and the 2 algae above seem to quicken the replenishment process. Throw in some garlic too.

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  • if pois was a person i would slit his/her fucking throat

  • @IAxHero It's a very difficult topic to discuss with anybody (doctor, partner, family) but the effects can be devastating on someone's career, relationships and mental health. As a stop gap I try to get myself back to speed with "super greens" and that works but like everybody else who has this I really need to know what's going on here and to have the condition legitamised so doctors don't automatically assume you're nuts when you eventually work up the courage to tell them about the problem.

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  • I have a mild form of this. I feel mild symptoms of lethargy, brain not working properly, susceptibility to colds/infections, allergic symptoms. I feel this for the remainder of the day in which i have sexual activity, and the next day im back to normal. The only thing is that the allergic reaction can cause skin problems to still be there the following days. Today i tried taking some paracetamol after sex and it has reduced the symptoms somewhat.

  • @ikadir18 hows ur symptom so far bro>?

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  • i have been experiencing this illness for more than a decade now. Now i know the name of this disorder and i am not alone. right after orgasm(especially masturbation) i have lots of ANXIETY-PROVOKING THOUGHTS, DEPRESSION, BRAIN FOG, CAN'T RETAIN INFORMATION, NERVOUS! people should be aware of this...

  • Thank you for this video and valuable message!

    As a nutritionist I have helped a few clients experiencing POIS. I have found that Living Foods and Tonic Herbalism are amazing in relieving this very real imbalance centralized in the Adrenal Glands. The Adrenals, especially the Kidneys become depleted when a man ejaculates too often. Some, though few women experience POIS in my experience.

    Enjoy...

  • Hi Man, Congratulation for your interesting page. I need your professional orientation. I'm from Chile, I suffer Post Orgasmic Illnes Sindrome- POIS -since 15 years old. Now im 32 and I have had a devastating sexual life. I have many reasons to think, as you say, it is an Adrenals Glands imbalance, cause I suffer Chronicle Fatigue Syndrome at the same time. My question is what do you can recommend me, Vital Food or Tonic Herbals, to relieve my terrible situation. I'm really desperate, thanks.

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  • Thank you for this note.

    I have a lot of experience with POIS and can certainly assist you in recovering!

    I sent you a message here in YouTube email.

    Enjoy

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  • Do people with POIS have an allergic reaction to Protamine? I know that those who have had vasectomies are prone to Protamine reactions.

  • We now have a new, better organized and easier to navigate forum, which can be accessed through our thread at the naked scientists site. If you have trouble finding it ask one of us via personal message or on the forum. I would post the link here, but youtube won't let me.

  • for real doctors and researchers should do more studying on this p.o.i.s im shure its du to a hormonal imbalancement or allergic reaction or..... whatever any how if man was able to fly to the moon he should be able ton find a cure till then my dear friends if you having sex try not to come :P make it last . Concentrate jedy master hahaha lol remember at least you know the deal now some peaople have p.o.i.s and dont even know it . when you know you can solve

  • you know what, i will try actionlove first. i did before and the results were limited but thats because of my PSAS probably. i will experiment more the next months. i will contact lin, ask him what to do and tell him everything, follow his advice for months and take his products for months and report back here (if i remember). ask me though just in case in 3-6 months from today. i know lin will help i just need to get rid of this PSAS to stop masturbating and start healing

  • i think actionlove has all the answers. follow dr lin's advice he is an expert at this and you will be fine.

  • I've devised a make-shift chastity device that allows me to go without masturbating for about a day. I take a paperclip and bend it around my dick so the ends are pointing towards it inhibiting erection. Then I put a little paper around the paperclip and duct tape over it to make it more difficult to remove. The paper is to help the skin to be able to breath.

    At the end of the day I take a shower and take the device off then as it is easier to remove with water.

  • I started masturbating when I was 17 and it turned my life into hell. Before I started I was in top physical condition I had 8 pack abs and almost had my front flip technique perfected. I felt no pain except emotional pain. Now I am 22 and feel like I'm 70. I can barely get out of my bed to go eat and go to the bathroom. I masturbate about 3 times a day and can't help it even after it has caused me to drop out of college.

  • @DRAGUNOVIX sounds like typical sexual exhaustion. i feel like that too. i studied it on actionlove. you are addicted i think due to psas and dr lin should be able to help you. i am trying it myself. im positive i'll get better.

  • @darkchakra123 I know some of us at the naked science forum have tried dr. lin's medicines with no effect. I think we mostly feel that his operation is a scam.

  • @DRAGUNOVIX we'll see about that

  • @darkchakra1234 okay let us know if you find something that works for you.

  • @DRAGUNOVIX im not cured yet. i am working on it. but i know lin can help me.he has been right on everything so far

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  • zinc , vitamine D and vitamine E plus omega 3-6-9 will help a lot to reduce the side effects if you get the depression and anxiety symptome just those abuse from these vitamine nether ejaculating moderation is always good 2 cap of 5omg of zinc 2 cap of vitamine d 2 of vitamine e 4 cap of omega 3-6-9 per day with good and healthy meal you will help you to be in good shape this solution will help many not all but many

  • pls any one with pois contact me , pls my life is ruined plsssssssssssssssssssssss

  • @2007pig Why should you not trust them

  • i get sick for a week after and get bad lung infections

  • I just found out this shit has a name, God I don't feel crazy now! When I told my sister about it, she knew what I meant but we had no name for it and thought it was normal. Mine can last from minutes to 12 hours, and it feels worse than oversleeping. When it hits, I have walk around to make the restless leg feeling go away, and I have to eat something and stay awake. Trying to sleep it off is horrible! Been having it since I had my first orgasm at 13; 9 years now :(

  • I have this, it fucking pises me off, after a few days i dont do it though feel alot more confident and healthy but then i feel so horny

  • The answers are found in the posts below, especially from camus 2222, and darkchakra123...

  • This is hilarious. The answers are all below in several posts, yet no one seems to be reading them...

  • @dannybex "This is hilarious. The answers are all below in several posts, yet no one seems to be reading them..."

    The answers aren't always the same for everyone. Exercise and diet have no effect on my POIS. Many on the forums have tried Dr. Lin's products to no avail. Abstinence only helps in the short term and only for those whose self control isn't compromised by POIS. I am currently taking fenugreek & garlic which is helping reduce many of my symptoms.

  • Now I know why I frekin stutter and struggle a lot with stuff like math. It makes me feel retarded as hell. Is there a cure to the symptoms?

  • I can't believe that some men go 20, 30 years with this syndrome. When I noticed that i have it, I cured myself within few years, just with observation, mind control, belief, also some religious reading, excercise. But I'm extremely intelligent so sorry... The causes are mix of addiction to lust, lack of love during childhood, excessive sexual fantasy, excessive masturbation, feeling shame, guilt, sexual repression, neuroticism during masturbating, or watching porn or going in a strip club....

  • But I forgot to mention what's the most important to fix yourselves. Proper breathing will give you the energy and clear the mind, but in order to brathe properly you have to root out the feelings of shame, guilt or self criticism that cause the tension in your body. Then you relax those muscles and breathe deeply. Then you stop lusting about sex. Not thinking about sex and lust itself will give you boost of energy... Well you can think about sex without lust but it's tricky, it takes self contr

  • @sekula1999 you are so full of shit, youre not even close, its caused from a neuro endocrine breakdown and it cannot befixed. youre a fuckin dipship.

  • Is the music Moondog? was a fantastic peice!

  • Have you guys tried white tantric sex? i.e. sex NOT for orgasm. The reasoning behind it is basically that orgasms are for procreation and immediately afterwards the increased dopamine level encourages the partner to move on and procreate with a new person. Great for biology, bad for relationships. I would also add that our society pushes sex continuously in the media (and everywhere else), which already heightens our sensativity towards it. When we orgasm, we feel a massive 'low' once the...

  • @2007pig i know but it helps anyway! doctors tell me its all in my head NO ITS NOT. its this disease im 100% sure

  • For coining just this term Dr. Waldinger is my hero. I have been suffering from this for years due to masturbation addiction. I think it is due to Dopamine mainly but also has to do with acetylcholine, serotonin and others. In Chinese medicine you are drainig your Jing. I think that if you have weak Jing/Dopamine already, you have this problem and by healing that, you will not have this problem. My problem is that I am addicted to this. I will try my best stopping it though. This is killing...

  • i cannot access naked scintest forum as it is banned in my country shame on us ....

  • help me plzzzzzzzzzzzzz i am living with this desease for now 20 years , i am married , and have kids and running a good business , but due to this desease my every thing is detoraating , my relation is getting finish with my wife , OMG , pls help me , i found you guys here pls make a community so we can help each other plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    sgsg777

    pls contact me and guide me asap !!!

  • deal with it bitch, yur not alone.

  • Look, this being a scientific endeavor for future study, the only real breakthrough we as sufferers may achieve is a large scale mention of P.O.I.S. in the media. Simply desired, a hosting celebrity would at least publicize the idea of what this is. I don't care that P.O.I.S. is connected with the illness, just that people realize symptoms of this nature are not normal. Once people can identify this with a disorder, the rest will take care of itself. 14 year vet speaking.

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  • if we want to find a real solution to the POIS the only hope is that researcher do scientific experiance on victims of this illness, with complet analysis and comparaison with normal persons, this is the only way to determine what is different with POIS victims, what cause their symptoms and finaly what treatement can help them.

    Finaly, The only hope for finding efficient treatement is that more scientifics consider the POIS as an real illness.

  • I tried to join the forum but never got the validation email which is a pity.

  • it's all about losing chi

    vital life force contained in the sperm

    google ojjas and semen

    we use chi for everything and can deplete through binge drinking, regular supposed healthy masturbation/sex, over thinking, over worrying etc, poor diet, over exertion, etc

    this whole thing is just depressing

  • The cause of POIS, orgasm, ejaculation, sperm loss, is unknown. Please feel free to join the forum to discuss this.

  • @2007pig...... can a man still have kids after this?

  • diagnosed 2003 with pois . I am impressed with this video. So sad to see that all is true. spoiled my live with this terror syndrome. .....This video is verry confrontating .I could not tell it better as done here!.. get treated experimental . Kept it secret to not overwhelm persons bussy with this with worldwide mails . respect please the time that is needed to discuss first results next year. We are not ready to communicate with patients we have to see if results wil remain stable .

  • Those symptoms look very similar to what I have before. I didnt know there is actually a name for it! Ha. Yes,I recovered.

    According to the Chinese 5,000 years of traditional medicine. Most illness arises with the Qi or Energy in the body going out of balance. However, since we can not see Qi, no scientifical reports can be given.

    The cure lies in a combination of holistic treatment. Qi gong, Tai Chi, Herbal Ginseng, Nutrition supplements to replace mineral depletion through ejaculation.

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  • /salute

    damn straight

  • this shiz is no joke.

    NO @#!#@$ JOKE

    you got it, you go abstinent, or you become a !@#%$!$ zombie who cant @!!##!% talk or function at work.

    thanks u.s. medicine community for focusing on impotence instead of real sex research like the neurotoxic affects of sex, MIGHT EXPLAIN A FEW MILLION COUPLES' PROBLEMS YOU DUMBA#!!$@ES

  • when you go abstinent can you recover?

  • yes, which is why i have been abstinent for the majority of my adult life. of course this makes having relationships somewhat difficult since women want to have regular sex with their partners at some point in the relationship / marriage =)

  • When you went abstinent did everything return to your normal life?

  • normal as far as not having sex nor an ongoing relationship.

    however it is very difficult to maintain 100% abstinence at night time, since the male body wants to relive itself naturally through nocturnal emissions. maintaining this discipline through nightly mental exercises and prescribed drugs takes its toll after awhile

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  • I had this problem for years and i didn't even realize it. The solution that worked for me was easier than you think. Fruits and vegitables everyday. No sugar or artificial sweeteners and limited alcohol. Add light excercise on top of this. I still space out my orgasms a couple days apart but i'm cured. The solution was so simple but it took me 15 years to figure this out. The key is to stick with it. If i get off this regiment, i'm right back where i was. Good luck!

  • Abstinence works for most people who can do it. For some people though, bottling up all of their sexual energy only leads to more undesirable symptoms that can get to be almost as bad as POIS itself. It differs from person to person. More information at the forum in the sidebar.

  • @ManiacKomplex AMEN!! Ive been ejaculating everyday from age 14 to 22 and finnally discovered why I was so fucked up. I never took 5 days off to notice I recover from ejacing. Not only not function at work, but it makes u piss everyone off and have no friends. Everyone thought I had multi personality disorder when I stopped ejacing.

  • @OMFGsoBOARD dutch doctor did years of research on this, and in January 2011 a european medical journal (that has confirmed his findings and research) is going to publish his 2 articles on what this is, what causes it, and mainline treatment. Chk out the forum listed in this video's text info.

    medical world is gonna get my foot in their ass with the proof their shrinkology is full of dogshit and their cunt doctors not suprisingly STILL dont know crap about how the human brain works.

  • @ManiacKomplex Does POIS also cause the sufferer to be unable to express themselves without the use of intemperate language?

  • @OutOnBailNow "Does POIS also cause the sufferer to be unable to express themselves without the use of intemperate language?"

    Actually, yes, POIS does have a tremendous effect on the sufferer's ability to communicate in an articulate manner. Often times to the point where sufferer's, like me, are afraid to enter into any conversation because your mind is functioning at such a low level that you lose your train of thought and can't think of anything to say at all even about topics you like.

  • @OutOnBailNow And I realize now that you were probably referring to the lack of emotional control shown there...well POIS can affect that as well. I have almost zero self control while in a state of POIS and my emotions are much more unstable. Besides I think you'd be angry too if you felt like you just had a lobotomy every time you had an orgasm and every doctor you talked to either couldn't help you at all or thought you had some kind of mental phobia of sex.

  • @DRAGUNOVIX Thats exactly how i feel! Any free advice you can give for treatment?

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  • Hello, I have suffered from POIS all my adult sexual life. I suffered from it when I was a teenager and masturbating. I suffered from it when I was an adult with sex partners. I think 38heat may have a point about "chronic excessive sex in the past." There was a point when I abused sex like a drug with my sex partner. This took its toll on my mind and my body. Now if I masturbate I suffer from extreme exhaustion for a day and I am basically good for nothing. The following day I am OK.

  • camus2222-- There are many theories about what causes

    POIS and what might help it. We are exploring these on the

    Naked Scientists forum. If you're interested, you should go

    on the forum and check it out. Many brilliant people have

    posted their thoughts and experiences.

  • Hello Person2207, I have been to the Naked Scientist forum. It is very helpful and there are a lot of posts there. Abstinence is the best cure for it I think. Otherwise this condition is so bad I think I should get disability pay.

  • @person2207 plz help me ..... i want to stay in touch with u guys , is there any community or forum so we can help each other or a twitter account pls help me

    sgsg777my name is sameer affandi

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  • Try eating soaked Fenugreek,with lemon and honey for few days and see if it works for you.

  • @shashikiranz

    Did it work for you?

  • then help me pls what should i do its almost killing me , clonozepam helps me to calm down and helps me from the headache

    pls help me

  • Nicely done, and very moving. I'll mention it in the monthly "Reuniting" newsletter. Good luck.

  • Thank you for your nice feedback.

  • "This video was originally made to raise awareness of POIS amongst the public and medical community and to reach out to sufferers of this life-wrecking illness. Now, through the work of sufferers, POIS has been recognised by the National Organisation for Rare Disorders (NORD). It has taken years to get to this stage. The next stage is to secure a research grant to get this condition more thoroughly investigated and work toward an effective treatment/ cure.

  • Sufferers are trying to raise $33500 through NORD's research grant scheme so that medical research into the condition can be launched and a treatment/ cure found. This is the minimum amount required to start the process. At the moment, all the money is coming from the sufferers themselves.

  • If feel you can contribute even a small amount to this cause, you can do so at the National Organisation for Rare Disorders website. You'll get to the right page by googling "NORD research donations". Then select "Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS)" where it says "please select fund" partway down the page

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  • great job person2207

  • Fantastic work ewe guys....and gals !

    Excellent info and with some luck, a passing expert will see this and ofeer some assistance.

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