Varney 's last comment is classic. "Some of us support the prosperity of the last generation." Were unions not the primary catalyst for the creation of a middle class in this country?
All Papantonio is doing is repeating the same ugly insults, not making cogent and well thought out points. He does not answer Varney legitimate questions. He just talks over him and insults him. I cannot understand the title here. If anything Papantonio seems to show that he has taken a few too many hammer strikes to the head. "He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason". - Cicero
These gluttonous gray pupon swilling narcissistic fascist loving corporate sycophants from wall street live in a bubble and when their failed ideas end in disaster they cry for MERCY, MULLIGANS, & MONEY and still they cry like little sissy girls, all their lives they've lived off other peoples charity, sweat and slave labor, god help them if they ever have to fend for themselves of live with the conquences of their failures!
George W Bush is the poster boy for these Welfare Queens!
I think most of Ameria is tired of the SYCOPHANTS and Corporate Welfare Whores, like little George W turninging everything he touches to shit,
If America were a family store George W. would be the asshole giving everything away to his friends knowing he's driving the family into bankruptcy then going to work for the competetors while the family stays and works long hours for little pay trying to save the store.
i like this video because of Papantonio's reasoned position and calling-out of the greedy pro-corporation fat cats. however, i dislike this video because of the way Varney dominated the conversation, and probably appealed better to the stupid assholes who watch FOX and FBN. we need to find a way to get through to their ilk and not just look like other "far-left ideologues," but that's hard when they breed viewers to be dense enough as to defy actual logic.
How many times did Papantonio use the words "Grey Poupon" in this segment??This is a typical liberal argument - when you can't win on the facts, call people names. What a great strategy!! Papantonio really comes off as very unintelligent in this segment.
@Hazmat347 You know nothing about economics. I own my own company and if I could move to another country to avoid unions, I would do it. Unions don't create jobs, they consume them, demand huge benefit packages, and want ridiculous work rules. Unions make things much more expensive for companies and as a result more expensive for the consumers of those company's products. Why do you think $1500 of the cost of a GM car is legacy medical costs for retirees? The Republicans didn't create this mess.
@TheKkronic420 That has to be one of the stupidest solutions on the problem of labor being sent overseas that I have ever heard. Try operating a company and have to deal with labor unions; then maybe you would change your tune and see that companies move to wherever their costs are the lowest. If that is in Mexico & they are more business-friendly, then I guarantee that you would move to that country. A high school student could figure that one out! Not let them back into the country?? Moronic!!
@TheKkronic420 Okay genius!! How exactly would you react if you owned a company and the following scenario developed? You manufacture shoes in the US and the labor costs are $20/hr (including benefits), but you can move your plant down to Mexico and pay $10/hr (without benefits). What would you do? Stay in the US and have to raise the prices of your shoes 20%? Or would you move to Mexico and maintain the low price of your shoes to the consumer? Guarantee you would move the plant to Mexico!!
@TheFreethinker71 Move to Mexico and make your shoes. Have fun, make shoes until the cows come home. If it was up to me, your shoes would never be alowed into this country. Sell your shoes to the Mexicans. While your at it, make socks. The socks are not comming across the border as well.
@rickbar123 You still didn't answer my question-what would you do if you owned a plant? Would you go to a labor market that was cheaper or go to one that was more expensive? You answered what you would do if I owned the plant and made shoes, but not what you would do. I can tell by your response that you would never make it in business in this world because you don't know the first thing about economics or the day-to-day challenges of running a business. I can tell, you'll never succeed in life.
@TheFreethinker71 I would make shoes in America, pay good money and have the best benifits I could afford for my workers. I would make less money per shoe, but I would be a good American. The company that makes Mag flashlights and the company that makes Leatherman tools both feel the same way. I would have some hot looking chicks working for me as well. Be clear on this Neo Con- Someday the worker is going to break your head open with a bat.
@rickbar123 Yeah, sure you would! I'm sure you would pay the highest price for everything to be a good American. You know why Mag & Leatherman stay in business? As much as you like to think it's because they are patriotic, it's because they have a high quality product & consumers pay extra for that quality. GM went bankrupt because the unions demanded everything & the company had a shitty product that no consumer wanted to buy. You want to force people to buy American which just raises prices.
@TheFreethinker71 A TV is made in America for 350 and sells on the shelf for 500. The worker is paid a fair wage and has benifits. Now the TV is made in Mexico, the worker is paid 5.50 a day, lives in a shack and maybe can see a company nurse once a year. The TV set made in Mexico sells on the same shelf for 500. The CEO and Wall Street get rich and America goes down the toilet. Did Wal Mart tell you "It's a great deal" ?? Tell me, what does CEO cock taste like ?? Better yet, don't.
@rickbar123 You must be in a union with your "bat to the head" threat. That is a great solution to a labor dispute! Give me what I want or I will kill you! Of course that worker is free to quit and take another job, but you think American workers are owed jobs, don't you? No two parties enter into an agreement unless they mutually benefit. Can you grasp that concept or does the union also force you to stop thinking on your union designated break? Companies will do what is of the best value.
@TheFreethinker71 Sorry, not very many unions left. I never belonged to or worked for a union. The American people will not stay stupid forever. Companys can make goods in any country they want, the day is comming when they will not sell here.
@TheFreethinker71 Maybe the American worker can go head to head with the Mexican worker at 5.50 a day. Or the worker in China at 300 a month. How about the worker in Viet Nam at 60 bucks a month. Come on you paid right wing cock sucking think tank fucking scum bag, let me piss into the crack in your scull. Stupid fuck, do you want to live in a country like that ?? Why don't you go down to Jaurze Mexico and see what life is like on 5.50. Lets see if you can make it back alive.
@rickbar123 Nice!! You have no good ideas or comebacks so you resort to name-calling. BTW-it's not "scull"; it's spelled "skull". The flaw in your thinking is comparing labor rates in the US to labor rates throughout the world-rates in China are different from rates in Vietnam. If the average Mexican makes $4 per day, then $5.50 is much better. If these evil corporations paid below the average daily wage, no one would work for them. They pay above labor market rates because they have to.
@TheFreethinker71 I can tell fox bends you over every day. Prices in Juarze are 90% of what they are in the US. So at 5.50 a day, they starve until they decide to move north. Take your bullshit someplace else. The day is comming when the investor class will hang for what they have done.
@rickbar123 Please sit down before you fall down!! Take an economics course or read a book on economics before you go on these juvenile rants-you might learn something! Free trade is good for the whole world because that cheap TV sold in the US allows US consumers extra money to buy goods and services in the US. That allows that US plumber or US mechanic or US car-part supplier to get money from you in order to make a living. But you don't see that, do you? You think all $ never come back to us
@TheFreethinker71 Yea right. Go fuck youself ya right wing cock sucker. Like I said, the day is comming when the worker is going to take to the streets. Unlike the workers in the EU, Americas workers are armed to the teeth. You need to hide, Neo Con.
@rickbar123 Oh, I'm really scared!! I just can't get over how brilliant your arguments are and your thinking is just so clear! "Go fuck yourself ya right wing cock sucker" is masterful! You must have gone to Oxford or Harvard with that type of verbiage dripping from your lips. You are a typical liberal; can't win the argument on the facts so you resort to low-brow personal attacks and want to get your way by mode of violence. Yeah, kill all the business people and then everyone will have a job!
@rickbar123 Because you think they are wrong with the facts? Do you ever watch FOX News? Or do you just bitch in absentia? If there facts are so wrong, why don't you see news stories on other outlets about FOX using all these made up facts? They tried that crap before and people didn't buy it; same with the White House spewing their rhetoric. Stop watching Media Matters and get your own sources for your facts. If FOX is wrong on everything, then why do they have the highest ratings?
@TheFreethinker71 Because America is full of stupid fucks that listen to Right Wing Think Tank Scum like you. Paid scum that gets people to vote against themselfs because they will not read a book. The masses will not stay stupid forever. Time is not on your side.
@rickbar123 Do you ever watch FOX? You didn't answer the question! My guess is that you never do and just like to criticize what you have never tried nor understand. Also, you don't know anything if you think I am right wing for being a Libertarian. Libertarians want people to have the freedom to what they want as long as they don't prevent others from doing the same. So what is wrong with that? Why is it that you want to have your whole life planned out for you by the government?
@rickbar123 Are you afraid to make your own choices in life? Do you need the government to always tell you what to do? Also, I thought you Liberals were supposed to be so accepting of others and tolerant. You have to be one of the most intollerant and vulgar individuals I have ever conversed with. You appear to be seething with so much anger it has affected your brain and how you think. Stay on the Liberal side man! You're only helping the right-wing you appear to hate so much.
@rickbar123 I love how you keep on calling me a neo-con!! Do you even know what a Libertarian is? Do you know what Libertarians believe? Do you even have a clue what YOU believe? You sound like a walking contradiction to me!
@rickbar123 So, they should not have a plant in Mexico and then no Mexican has a job? Your logic is really contradictory. Please answer how any plant could exist in any third world country paying less than the average daily wage? Why would anyone work in that plant if they could make more money scrounging for aluminum cans or picking vegetables? I don't get you-you cry about how horrible life is in the rest of the world, but you don't want any businesses to open up there. Free trade is the way.
@TheFreethinker71 They can have whatever they want in Mexico. Let them make their own shoes. American companys in Mexico do improve life for Mexicans. Why do you think the Mexicans from the south continue to head north when the hit the areas with the plants ???? BECAUSE WORKING FOR 5.50 A DAY MEANS YOU STARVE IN MEXICO. FUCK YOU NEO CON. YOUR DAY IS COMMING.
@rickbar123 Again, a brilliant comeback! And I'm not a neo-con; I'm a Libertarian. Freedom for everyone to make their own choices and not wait for the government to screw things up. Enjoy the rest of your life being a ward of the state! And you think I am getting bent over a pole by FOX? Riiight!!
@rickbar123 Well, at least I am not waiting like you are for my government approved toilet paper to arrive so I can wipe my own ass. Of course, you would have to wait for the government to tell you it's okay to wipe your ass! Have fun with the government planning out your life for you! Because you obviously cannot do it yourself.
@rickbar123 Then what is your problem with Libertarians? We don't want government intrusion, yet the way you talk, it sounds like you want it. If you don't want it either, then we do not disagree. Or do you want government control for everyone but yourself? Make up your mind man!
@TheFreethinker71 I want a big strong government that stands with it's heal on the neck of corporate America. No freedom for the corporation at all. The corporation serves the public good and the good of it's workers only.
Libertarians, Neo Cons, Tea Baggers, Right Wingers, Repubs = dirt bags. Like I said, save your bullshit.
@rickbar123 So you are a Marxist then. You believe that the government should have control of the means of production (not allowing any private ownership or private companies). That (by definition) would be total government control. Corporations cannot exist if the government doesn't allow private companies to exist. By your naive definition of what you want, no corporation would be created or could ever make a profit if they were there just to serve the public and the workers. Nice world man!
@TheFreethinker71 Yea !! nice world. It's not Marxist, it's called State Capitalism. The Gov has a heavy hand on the corporation. The corporation serves the good of the worker and the public. The CEO and the investor still do well, but it's understood who comes first. Stop twisting things for your stupid tea bagger fans, Neo Con Job.
@rickbar123 Well good luck with getting that type of system. There is no way that could ever work - just like Communism - great in theory, but impossible in practice. You would eliminate any innovation or any R&D for new products. Face it - the profit motive gives us great things and all a heavy handed govt gives you is endless entitlement programs, high taxes, an oppression. You don't even understand that almost all you have is due to corporations in their pursuit of profit. Keep dreaming!
@TheFreethinker71 LOLOL you stupid Fox educated Neo Con ass lick. CHINA IS A STATE CAPITALIST COUNTRY. AMERICAN COMPANYS IN CHINA MUST 50/50 PARTNER WITH THE CHINESE GOV OR THEY CANT MANUFACTURE. R&D- LOLOL American companys must also give the Chinse Gov all technology. Technology the American taxpayer paid for via the military complex. That's right dick head, China takes 50% of the profit. How is that for a tax rate ?? Did I mention the bribes our CEOs must pay ???
@TheFreethinker71 Hey stupid fuck, looking that up ??? Your a shill, stay on your knees for the corporation and the CEO. You must like a mouth full of corporate cock ??
@TheFreethinker71 Oh, one last thing. The corporate tax rate has not been this low in 68 years. R&D would be gone if not for the nanny state military complex that corporate America sucks new technology out of for free. Then corporate America gives that new technology to the Chinse Gov for free so the CEO can take advantage the low wage labor. Look that up ass wipe.
@TheFreethinker71 Is that it?? Is there no more ??? Is this what they teach you to do??? Run away from a fight when you run out of bullshit ??? Toss out some bullshit about spelling and communism to fake out the stupid tea baggers that may cross this. What a dick.
@rickbar123 Yeah, that's pretty much all I'm gonna say because I'm not going to waste the rest of my day fencing with someone who thinks that he can win arguments by insults and profanity and no facts. I have better things to do than listen to a guy who sounds like he is competing in a vulgarity contest and not engaging in civil discourse. I own a company, so I don't suck on CEO's and I would NEVER hire someone like you, that's for sure.
@TheFreethinker71 Read a book on trade dick head, in fact, read lots of them, I did. Save the Fox talking points for the cock sucking tea baggers. That's right, never hire me. I am not a lap dog. Like you.
@rickbar123 it seems the grey pupon swilling MBA's are so educated they have forgot the basics, lol, it never matters if it's a petty criminal or a wall street wanna-be, they all fail when they get greedy!
What were those bailouts again? Bush's Bailouts: $1.8 TRILLION and Counting and another $3.3 Trillion, by the fed or was that $9 Trillion?
Oh yea, these Corporate Sycophants have got it in the bag, either they belong in prison or a mental institution! I say a mental prison!
@TheFreethinker71 You need to pass me off to sombody with much more education than you. You just don't have much to fight back with. Same old tired bullshit.
@rickbar123 Yeah, gee you are just too smart for me! I feel so beat up by a person who can't even spell! BTW -How is your "scull" doing?? I am glad you are the other side and screwing up their cause because you are only helping the evil right-wing!!
@TheFreethinker71 Did I say that Neo Con ???? No, I did not. See Neo Con, your bullshit does not work if it's not a tea bagger on the line. Put the heal of Gov on the corporations neck, not the peoples.
@miketothad Ha yeah because we all know the managers and accountants and MBA's just make derrivitives etc and nothing else..It was the chamber of commerece that pushed the service sector economy, only a moron could think that low intrest rates along with government providing trillions of liquidity to the sub prime housing market crowded out investment in manufacturing etc..
Good on Papantonio for describing this greasy, creepy douche as he really is, a voice for the rich.
Why doesn't detroit have any money compared to american auto? What is the resale value of a 5-year old GM/Chrysler/Ford in comparison to a toyota or a honda? The u.s. cars are practically worthless in comparison. why? Nobody wants them because they're shit. That's why they're bankrupt.
Varney knows this of course but his idiot viewers believe him.
It is time to get ILLEGAL CORPORATIONS such as Toyota and Honda OUT of our country. This country is supposed to be for AMERICAN companies only, not illegal companies from Japan and China!
Mike Papantonio is an absolute joke. He is a complete disgrace to the legal profession all over this country, and he is one of the 99% of lawyers who give the other 1% a bad name. He is the embodiment of the biggest special interest in this country - TRIAL LAWYERS - that provides the largest source of funding to the Democratic Party coffers. Howard Dean was right - the Democrats don't have the courage to bite the hand that feeds by enacting sensible tort reform in all states.
Mike Papantonio is an absolute joke. He is a complete disgrace to the legal profession and good, decent attorneys everywhere. He is the embodiment of the main special interest at the heart of the Democratic Party's entitlement agenda - trial lawyers. Howard Dean was right - the Democratic Party does not have the courage or integrity to challenge the biggest special interest in this country - the one in their own back yard. TRIAL LAWYERS.
Mike Papantonio is an absolute joke. He is a complete disgrace to the legal profession and good, decent attorneys everywhere. He is the embodiment of the main special interest at the heart of the Democratic Party's entitlement agenda - trial lawyers. Howard Dean was right - the Democratic Party does not have the courage or integrity to challenge the biggest special interest in this country - the one in their own back yard. TRIAL LAWYERS.
we should have higher tariffs - repub plan = china wages come up and ours go down till an equilibrium is reached and we're second world country making $4/hr
asshole repubtard blaming unions, if they had had a union in that wv mine 29 miners would be alive today, but to a repubtard money is more important than human lifes, Any working person who votes for repubtards is a real fool.
the unions that give their leaders 24 7 365 contracts that they only show up once or twice a week and get paid 40 regular 114 overtime and 24 double time, and have the Tony Sopranos with the baseball bats to make sure the rank and file keep voting the current leadership in.
This only goes to show what complete and utter ignoramuses are allowed to spew nonsense on Fox. Stuart Varney should be taken out to the woodshed for placing all the blame on labor. Typical: those with the most power (CEOs with golden parachutes) are the least accountable (they blame Labor). Make accusations and then demand explanations. Fuck you asshole.
The only question that the host got in was, why do non-union companies make money and union companies and cities don't? And doesn't that have something to do with union labor?
Papantonio could not, or would not answer the question.
Papantonio could not give one example of the host promoting the shipping of jobs overseas either.
All we got was a non-stop rant. Good viewing for the Air America crowd, but that's about all.
Um, because American auto executives put more money into stupid advertising than into the product? Because they decided to build and sell gas guzzlers? The british fuckwit is quick to blame labor, but the bad decisions were made by CEOs with golden parachutes.
Union companies make money - Even Fox news staff editors, cameramen, sound technicians etc are union members - so whilst Varney sits there attacking Unions whilst receiving his million dollar pay check, everyone around him making his show possible have to listen to his lies.
He didn't have to give an example. Anyone who watches fox often knows that they NEVER protest over seas tax breaks. They always claim that by doing that it will raise the cost of the products here and ruin our economy. Or by raising the prices on Tariffs it will cause the same thing. Therefore protecting companies which have moved overseas and encouraging more companies to do so. This is common Fox news doctrine.
Did Varney invite Pap on to hear his views or just to shove his own views down Pap's throat? That was a pathetic interview and a perfect example of our distorted and dysfunctional discourse.
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Unions prevent cost effectiveness. They regulate the freemarket, reduce the gains, and create bubble economies through pure keynsian principles that have been prooven not to work, over and over and over and.... No matter how much i hate FOX, i know economics well enough to know unions hinder progress, and subsist as a parasite to certain fields. Most union leaders are millionaires for a reason.
You have people on your show to talk over and treat as wallpaper to your pontificating? Was this a debate, a discussion or a recital before a captive audience?
5:45 "Some of us support the PROSPERITY of the last generation." Hey Stuart, those people YOU are supporting were economic rapists, plundering an looting the wealth from the debt they suckered the masses into burdening.
Varney 's last comment is classic. "Some of us support the prosperity of the last generation." Were unions not the primary catalyst for the creation of a middle class in this country?
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TheeMikeHoncho 5 months ago
Varney makes me sick.
islespatrick 7 months ago
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islespatrick 7 months ago
He reminds me of that talkshow host from v for vendetta.
moartoad 8 months ago
Euthanize papantonio's mother and father. Liberals don't get old, they die of AIDS!
flickyoli 1 year ago
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Varney, you are pa-thetic. Go fucking die somewhere.
Pizuzuzimmer 1 year ago
All Papantonio is doing is repeating the same ugly insults, not making cogent and well thought out points. He does not answer Varney legitimate questions. He just talks over him and insults him. I cannot understand the title here. If anything Papantonio seems to show that he has taken a few too many hammer strikes to the head. "He only employs his passion who can make no use of his reason". - Cicero
Kingobest 1 year ago
@Kingobest ummm and what is varney doing? oh ya, the exact same thing
mrjunebuguitar 1 year ago
These gluttonous gray pupon swilling narcissistic fascist loving corporate sycophants from wall street live in a bubble and when their failed ideas end in disaster they cry for MERCY, MULLIGANS, & MONEY and still they cry like little sissy girls, all their lives they've lived off other peoples charity, sweat and slave labor, god help them if they ever have to fend for themselves of live with the conquences of their failures!
George W Bush is the poster boy for these Welfare Queens!
shroomduke 1 year ago
i'd like to see stuart get his ass beat down like the bitch he is...
agent1up 1 year ago
@agent1up wouldn't that be sweet! lol
I think most of Ameria is tired of the SYCOPHANTS and Corporate Welfare Whores, like little George W turninging everything he touches to shit,
If America were a family store George W. would be the asshole giving everything away to his friends knowing he's driving the family into bankruptcy then going to work for the competetors while the family stays and works long hours for little pay trying to save the store.
shroomduke 1 year ago
i like this video because of Papantonio's reasoned position and calling-out of the greedy pro-corporation fat cats. however, i dislike this video because of the way Varney dominated the conversation, and probably appealed better to the stupid assholes who watch FOX and FBN. we need to find a way to get through to their ilk and not just look like other "far-left ideologues," but that's hard when they breed viewers to be dense enough as to defy actual logic.
frustratedlogician 1 year ago
How many times did Papantonio use the words "Grey Poupon" in this segment??This is a typical liberal argument - when you can't win on the facts, call people names. What a great strategy!! Papantonio really comes off as very unintelligent in this segment.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
Unions had nothing to do with the destruction of manufacturing jobs. The Republicans did. Out sourcing jobs over seas. Nice try FIXED NEWS.
Hazmat347 1 year ago
@Hazmat347 You know nothing about economics. I own my own company and if I could move to another country to avoid unions, I would do it. Unions don't create jobs, they consume them, demand huge benefit packages, and want ridiculous work rules. Unions make things much more expensive for companies and as a result more expensive for the consumers of those company's products. Why do you think $1500 of the cost of a GM car is legacy medical costs for retirees? The Republicans didn't create this mess.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 people who move jobs to other countries should not be allowed back into this country.
TheKkronic420 1 year ago
@TheKkronic420 That has to be one of the stupidest solutions on the problem of labor being sent overseas that I have ever heard. Try operating a company and have to deal with labor unions; then maybe you would change your tune and see that companies move to wherever their costs are the lowest. If that is in Mexico & they are more business-friendly, then I guarantee that you would move to that country. A high school student could figure that one out! Not let them back into the country?? Moronic!!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheKkronic420 Okay genius!! How exactly would you react if you owned a company and the following scenario developed? You manufacture shoes in the US and the labor costs are $20/hr (including benefits), but you can move your plant down to Mexico and pay $10/hr (without benefits). What would you do? Stay in the US and have to raise the prices of your shoes 20%? Or would you move to Mexico and maintain the low price of your shoes to the consumer? Guarantee you would move the plant to Mexico!!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Move to Mexico and make your shoes. Have fun, make shoes until the cows come home. If it was up to me, your shoes would never be alowed into this country. Sell your shoes to the Mexicans. While your at it, make socks. The socks are not comming across the border as well.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 You still didn't answer my question-what would you do if you owned a plant? Would you go to a labor market that was cheaper or go to one that was more expensive? You answered what you would do if I owned the plant and made shoes, but not what you would do. I can tell by your response that you would never make it in business in this world because you don't know the first thing about economics or the day-to-day challenges of running a business. I can tell, you'll never succeed in life.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 I would make shoes in America, pay good money and have the best benifits I could afford for my workers. I would make less money per shoe, but I would be a good American. The company that makes Mag flashlights and the company that makes Leatherman tools both feel the same way. I would have some hot looking chicks working for me as well. Be clear on this Neo Con- Someday the worker is going to break your head open with a bat.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Yeah, sure you would! I'm sure you would pay the highest price for everything to be a good American. You know why Mag & Leatherman stay in business? As much as you like to think it's because they are patriotic, it's because they have a high quality product & consumers pay extra for that quality. GM went bankrupt because the unions demanded everything & the company had a shitty product that no consumer wanted to buy. You want to force people to buy American which just raises prices.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 A TV is made in America for 350 and sells on the shelf for 500. The worker is paid a fair wage and has benifits. Now the TV is made in Mexico, the worker is paid 5.50 a day, lives in a shack and maybe can see a company nurse once a year. The TV set made in Mexico sells on the same shelf for 500. The CEO and Wall Street get rich and America goes down the toilet. Did Wal Mart tell you "It's a great deal" ?? Tell me, what does CEO cock taste like ?? Better yet, don't.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 You must be in a union with your "bat to the head" threat. That is a great solution to a labor dispute! Give me what I want or I will kill you! Of course that worker is free to quit and take another job, but you think American workers are owed jobs, don't you? No two parties enter into an agreement unless they mutually benefit. Can you grasp that concept or does the union also force you to stop thinking on your union designated break? Companies will do what is of the best value.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Sorry, not very many unions left. I never belonged to or worked for a union. The American people will not stay stupid forever. Companys can make goods in any country they want, the day is comming when they will not sell here.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Maybe the American worker can go head to head with the Mexican worker at 5.50 a day. Or the worker in China at 300 a month. How about the worker in Viet Nam at 60 bucks a month. Come on you paid right wing cock sucking think tank fucking scum bag, let me piss into the crack in your scull. Stupid fuck, do you want to live in a country like that ?? Why don't you go down to Jaurze Mexico and see what life is like on 5.50. Lets see if you can make it back alive.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Nice!! You have no good ideas or comebacks so you resort to name-calling. BTW-it's not "scull"; it's spelled "skull". The flaw in your thinking is comparing labor rates in the US to labor rates throughout the world-rates in China are different from rates in Vietnam. If the average Mexican makes $4 per day, then $5.50 is much better. If these evil corporations paid below the average daily wage, no one would work for them. They pay above labor market rates because they have to.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 I can tell fox bends you over every day. Prices in Juarze are 90% of what they are in the US. So at 5.50 a day, they starve until they decide to move north. Take your bullshit someplace else. The day is comming when the investor class will hang for what they have done.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Please sit down before you fall down!! Take an economics course or read a book on economics before you go on these juvenile rants-you might learn something! Free trade is good for the whole world because that cheap TV sold in the US allows US consumers extra money to buy goods and services in the US. That allows that US plumber or US mechanic or US car-part supplier to get money from you in order to make a living. But you don't see that, do you? You think all $ never come back to us
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Yea right. Go fuck youself ya right wing cock sucker. Like I said, the day is comming when the worker is going to take to the streets. Unlike the workers in the EU, Americas workers are armed to the teeth. You need to hide, Neo Con.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Oh, I'm really scared!! I just can't get over how brilliant your arguments are and your thinking is just so clear! "Go fuck yourself ya right wing cock sucker" is masterful! You must have gone to Oxford or Harvard with that type of verbiage dripping from your lips. You are a typical liberal; can't win the argument on the facts so you resort to low-brow personal attacks and want to get your way by mode of violence. Yeah, kill all the business people and then everyone will have a job!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 You could not win a argument on trade with me on your best day. You pussy Neo Con. Your a student at BECK U.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Fox news facts don't count asshole.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Because you think they are wrong with the facts? Do you ever watch FOX News? Or do you just bitch in absentia? If there facts are so wrong, why don't you see news stories on other outlets about FOX using all these made up facts? They tried that crap before and people didn't buy it; same with the White House spewing their rhetoric. Stop watching Media Matters and get your own sources for your facts. If FOX is wrong on everything, then why do they have the highest ratings?
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Because America is full of stupid fucks that listen to Right Wing Think Tank Scum like you. Paid scum that gets people to vote against themselfs because they will not read a book. The masses will not stay stupid forever. Time is not on your side.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Do you ever watch FOX? You didn't answer the question! My guess is that you never do and just like to criticize what you have never tried nor understand. Also, you don't know anything if you think I am right wing for being a Libertarian. Libertarians want people to have the freedom to what they want as long as they don't prevent others from doing the same. So what is wrong with that? Why is it that you want to have your whole life planned out for you by the government?
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Are you afraid to make your own choices in life? Do you need the government to always tell you what to do? Also, I thought you Liberals were supposed to be so accepting of others and tolerant. You have to be one of the most intollerant and vulgar individuals I have ever conversed with. You appear to be seething with so much anger it has affected your brain and how you think. Stay on the Liberal side man! You're only helping the right-wing you appear to hate so much.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Save your bullshit for the tea baggers Neo Con.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 I love how you keep on calling me a neo-con!! Do you even know what a Libertarian is? Do you know what Libertarians believe? Do you even have a clue what YOU believe? You sound like a walking contradiction to me!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@rickbar123 So, they should not have a plant in Mexico and then no Mexican has a job? Your logic is really contradictory. Please answer how any plant could exist in any third world country paying less than the average daily wage? Why would anyone work in that plant if they could make more money scrounging for aluminum cans or picking vegetables? I don't get you-you cry about how horrible life is in the rest of the world, but you don't want any businesses to open up there. Free trade is the way.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 They can have whatever they want in Mexico. Let them make their own shoes. American companys in Mexico do improve life for Mexicans. Why do you think the Mexicans from the south continue to head north when the hit the areas with the plants ???? BECAUSE WORKING FOR 5.50 A DAY MEANS YOU STARVE IN MEXICO. FUCK YOU NEO CON. YOUR DAY IS COMMING.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Again, a brilliant comeback! And I'm not a neo-con; I'm a Libertarian. Freedom for everyone to make their own choices and not wait for the government to screw things up. Enjoy the rest of your life being a ward of the state! And you think I am getting bent over a pole by FOX? Riiight!!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Oh, your a Libertarian. The right wings far right stupid fucks, far more stupid than the tea baggers.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Well, at least I am not waiting like you are for my government approved toilet paper to arrive so I can wipe my own ass. Of course, you would have to wait for the government to tell you it's okay to wipe your ass! Have fun with the government planning out your life for you! Because you obviously cannot do it yourself.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 The Government of the USA has never told me what to do.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Then what is your problem with Libertarians? We don't want government intrusion, yet the way you talk, it sounds like you want it. If you don't want it either, then we do not disagree. Or do you want government control for everyone but yourself? Make up your mind man!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 I want a big strong government that stands with it's heal on the neck of corporate America. No freedom for the corporation at all. The corporation serves the public good and the good of it's workers only.
Libertarians, Neo Cons, Tea Baggers, Right Wingers, Repubs = dirt bags. Like I said, save your bullshit.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 So you are a Marxist then. You believe that the government should have control of the means of production (not allowing any private ownership or private companies). That (by definition) would be total government control. Corporations cannot exist if the government doesn't allow private companies to exist. By your naive definition of what you want, no corporation would be created or could ever make a profit if they were there just to serve the public and the workers. Nice world man!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Yea !! nice world. It's not Marxist, it's called State Capitalism. The Gov has a heavy hand on the corporation. The corporation serves the good of the worker and the public. The CEO and the investor still do well, but it's understood who comes first. Stop twisting things for your stupid tea bagger fans, Neo Con Job.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Well good luck with getting that type of system. There is no way that could ever work - just like Communism - great in theory, but impossible in practice. You would eliminate any innovation or any R&D for new products. Face it - the profit motive gives us great things and all a heavy handed govt gives you is endless entitlement programs, high taxes, an oppression. You don't even understand that almost all you have is due to corporations in their pursuit of profit. Keep dreaming!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 LOLOL you stupid Fox educated Neo Con ass lick. CHINA IS A STATE CAPITALIST COUNTRY. AMERICAN COMPANYS IN CHINA MUST 50/50 PARTNER WITH THE CHINESE GOV OR THEY CANT MANUFACTURE. R&D- LOLOL American companys must also give the Chinse Gov all technology. Technology the American taxpayer paid for via the military complex. That's right dick head, China takes 50% of the profit. How is that for a tax rate ?? Did I mention the bribes our CEOs must pay ???
rickbar123 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 GEE WIZZ - American CEOs have no problem with that system now do they ?? STUPID SHILL.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Hey stupid fuck, looking that up ??? Your a shill, stay on your knees for the corporation and the CEO. You must like a mouth full of corporate cock ??
rickbar123 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Oh, one last thing. The corporate tax rate has not been this low in 68 years. R&D would be gone if not for the nanny state military complex that corporate America sucks new technology out of for free. Then corporate America gives that new technology to the Chinse Gov for free so the CEO can take advantage the low wage labor. Look that up ass wipe.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Is that it?? Is there no more ??? Is this what they teach you to do??? Run away from a fight when you run out of bullshit ??? Toss out some bullshit about spelling and communism to fake out the stupid tea baggers that may cross this. What a dick.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Yeah, that's pretty much all I'm gonna say because I'm not going to waste the rest of my day fencing with someone who thinks that he can win arguments by insults and profanity and no facts. I have better things to do than listen to a guy who sounds like he is competing in a vulgarity contest and not engaging in civil discourse. I own a company, so I don't suck on CEO's and I would NEVER hire someone like you, that's for sure.
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Read a book on trade dick head, in fact, read lots of them, I did. Save the Fox talking points for the cock sucking tea baggers. That's right, never hire me. I am not a lap dog. Like you.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 it seems the grey pupon swilling MBA's are so educated they have forgot the basics, lol, it never matters if it's a petty criminal or a wall street wanna-be, they all fail when they get greedy!
What were those bailouts again? Bush's Bailouts: $1.8 TRILLION and Counting and another $3.3 Trillion, by the fed or was that $9 Trillion?
Oh yea, these Corporate Sycophants have got it in the bag, either they belong in prison or a mental institution! I say a mental prison!
shroomduke 1 year ago
@shroomduke The Basics- Pay the Working Man, he will spend it. Give the Working Man job security, he will spend a bit extra. LOLOL
rickbar123 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 You need to pass me off to sombody with much more education than you. You just don't have much to fight back with. Same old tired bullshit.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Yeah, gee you are just too smart for me! I feel so beat up by a person who can't even spell! BTW -How is your "scull" doing?? I am glad you are the other side and screwing up their cause because you are only helping the evil right-wing!!
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Lets face it jack ass, your a shill for Fox. Read a book on trade with China. Better yet, read any book on trade.
rickbar123 1 year ago
@rickbar123 Then why do you want to give them more control of your life?
TheFreethinker71 1 year ago
@TheFreethinker71 Did I say that Neo Con ???? No, I did not. See Neo Con, your bullshit does not work if it's not a tea bagger on the line. Put the heal of Gov on the corporations neck, not the peoples.
rickbar123 1 year ago
Way to kick that ass, Pap!
miketothad 1 year ago
@miketothad Ha yeah because we all know the managers and accountants and MBA's just make derrivitives etc and nothing else..It was the chamber of commerece that pushed the service sector economy, only a moron could think that low intrest rates along with government providing trillions of liquidity to the sub prime housing market crowded out investment in manufacturing etc..
Eastsideweezy 1 year ago
Hey Varney go suck a dick
rickbar123 1 year ago
Good on Papantonio for describing this greasy, creepy douche as he really is, a voice for the rich.
Why doesn't detroit have any money compared to american auto? What is the resale value of a 5-year old GM/Chrysler/Ford in comparison to a toyota or a honda? The u.s. cars are practically worthless in comparison. why? Nobody wants them because they're shit. That's why they're bankrupt.
Varney knows this of course but his idiot viewers believe him.
stama9 1 year ago
It is time to get ILLEGAL CORPORATIONS such as Toyota and Honda OUT of our country. This country is supposed to be for AMERICAN companies only, not illegal companies from Japan and China!
mjbyars 1 year ago
I wish Stuart would go back to England, period.
NewYorkCityUSA7 1 year ago
Stuart Varney:
"Why is Detroit a union town bankrupt and the Toyotas and Hondas are not?"
Answer:
Because douche bag conservative trash such as yourself prevent us from having single payer healthcare.
acidgawd999 1 year ago 2
Mike Papantonio is an absolute joke. He is a complete disgrace to the legal profession all over this country, and he is one of the 99% of lawyers who give the other 1% a bad name. He is the embodiment of the biggest special interest in this country - TRIAL LAWYERS - that provides the largest source of funding to the Democratic Party coffers. Howard Dean was right - the Democrats don't have the courage to bite the hand that feeds by enacting sensible tort reform in all states.
NonSoccerFan 1 year ago
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Mike Papantonio is an absolute joke. He is a complete disgrace to the legal profession and good, decent attorneys everywhere. He is the embodiment of the main special interest at the heart of the Democratic Party's entitlement agenda - trial lawyers. Howard Dean was right - the Democratic Party does not have the courage or integrity to challenge the biggest special interest in this country - the one in their own back yard. TRIAL LAWYERS.
NonSoccerFan 1 year ago
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Mike Papantonio is an absolute joke. He is a complete disgrace to the legal profession and good, decent attorneys everywhere. He is the embodiment of the main special interest at the heart of the Democratic Party's entitlement agenda - trial lawyers. Howard Dean was right - the Democratic Party does not have the courage or integrity to challenge the biggest special interest in this country - the one in their own back yard. TRIAL LAWYERS.
NonSoccerFan 1 year ago
we should have higher tariffs - repub plan = china wages come up and ours go down till an equilibrium is reached and we're second world country making $4/hr
cloudbuster77 1 year ago
This Varney guy is a fuckin' clown just like the rest of the Fox "news" bunch
jbrownil 1 year ago
asshole repubtard blaming unions, if they had had a union in that wv mine 29 miners would be alive today, but to a repubtard money is more important than human lifes, Any working person who votes for repubtards is a real fool.
derail14 1 year ago
How sad is to see a fool, ear-less, tongue with foot, like Stuart Varney.
novusignum 1 year ago
Varney does not come from Britain, he comes from a cave.
mtklima 1 year ago 2
I don't know who Stuart Varney but he just got his ass slammed.
coffee396 1 year ago
LOL Papantonio looks like a little kid who thinks he knows better then his grandpa when it comes to basing factual knowledge.
hershbergerpaul 1 year ago
barmy varney basically shouts and puts on smug smiles and gets away with it
aheggersonthereyouar 2 years ago
why is the native american so obsessed with silk stockings?cant he buy silk stockings?i wear them and i am a good guy
CanadianHitler 2 years ago
Simon Cowell and Stuart Varney are both british and are both "F'ing A-holes"!!!
1970ralph 2 years ago 3
Varney is a disgrace to Britan
imaginepeace63 2 years ago 21
@imaginepeace63 I think they kicked him out of the UK. FOX's good fortune.
fatouche99 1 year ago
the unions that give their leaders 24 7 365 contracts that they only show up once or twice a week and get paid 40 regular 114 overtime and 24 double time, and have the Tony Sopranos with the baseball bats to make sure the rank and file keep voting the current leadership in.
cupera1 2 years ago
This only goes to show what complete and utter ignoramuses are allowed to spew nonsense on Fox. Stuart Varney should be taken out to the woodshed for placing all the blame on labor. Typical: those with the most power (CEOs with golden parachutes) are the least accountable (they blame Labor). Make accusations and then demand explanations. Fuck you asshole.
j0hnwi11iams 2 years ago 15
@j0hnwi11iams nicely spoken/written.
TheKkronic420 1 year ago
@j0hnwi11iams nicely spoken/written. mike pap says it like it is, especially on Rings of Fire.
TheKkronic420 1 year ago
There is no point in going on faux mike, go on cnn or msnbc so they let you talk and don't scream over your points.
daderone 2 years ago
Papantonio is a Native American?
daderone 2 years ago
He's a native liberal. Not certain about the American part.
Oh, and who works in a non-union shop, btw.
1hmfwic 2 years ago
The only question that the host got in was, why do non-union companies make money and union companies and cities don't? And doesn't that have something to do with union labor?
Papantonio could not, or would not answer the question.
Papantonio could not give one example of the host promoting the shipping of jobs overseas either.
All we got was a non-stop rant. Good viewing for the Air America crowd, but that's about all.
1hmfwic 2 years ago
Um, because American auto executives put more money into stupid advertising than into the product? Because they decided to build and sell gas guzzlers? The british fuckwit is quick to blame labor, but the bad decisions were made by CEOs with golden parachutes.
Now eat shit.
j0hnwi11iams 2 years ago 4
Union companies make money - Even Fox news staff editors, cameramen, sound technicians etc are union members - so whilst Varney sits there attacking Unions whilst receiving his million dollar pay check, everyone around him making his show possible have to listen to his lies.
Gewyne 2 years ago
He didn't have to give an example. Anyone who watches fox often knows that they NEVER protest over seas tax breaks. They always claim that by doing that it will raise the cost of the products here and ruin our economy. Or by raising the prices on Tariffs it will cause the same thing. Therefore protecting companies which have moved overseas and encouraging more companies to do so. This is common Fox news doctrine.
PoliticalSkeptic 2 years ago
Did Varney invite Pap on to hear his views or just to shove his own views down Pap's throat? That was a pathetic interview and a perfect example of our distorted and dysfunctional discourse.
RadicalPragmatist1 2 years ago 4
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Unions prevent cost effectiveness. They regulate the freemarket, reduce the gains, and create bubble economies through pure keynsian principles that have been prooven not to work, over and over and over and.... No matter how much i hate FOX, i know economics well enough to know unions hinder progress, and subsist as a parasite to certain fields. Most union leaders are millionaires for a reason.
ExquisiteDoom 2 years ago
hahahaha the grey poupon crowd. all i keep thinking about is those commercials where he says "but of course" LOL
PoliticalSkeptic 2 years ago
in reality this country needs both labor and entrepreneurs,because without both it would be useless.
jhamm999 2 years ago
let's hope stuart varney suffers a minor trifle, like unemployment when fox finally goes bust, and faces the lies he tells
bbbbmer 2 years ago 3
I'm more hoping that he suffers from epilepsy or some other brain disorder. Stuart is so in the tank for corporate interests, it's not even funny.
garthggarth 2 years ago
that was an assaualt by varney what a punk
mapleloaf67 2 years ago
Papp is just "doing as the Romans do" at FOX
To rational people it sounds like the same noise.
To ears trained to the dog whistle, though, it resonates.
dogstar7 2 years ago 4
What kind of 'interview' was that?
You have people on your show to talk over and treat as wallpaper to your pontificating? Was this a debate, a discussion or a recital before a captive audience?
dogstar7 2 years ago
5:45 "Some of us support the PROSPERITY of the last generation." Hey Stuart, those people YOU are supporting were economic rapists, plundering an looting the wealth from the debt they suckered the masses into burdening.
ONQproductions 2 years ago 2
It is almost impossible to get rich without screwing somebody over.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
I wouldn't know, but you may be onto something.
dogstar7 2 years ago
Of course! I know everything! Don't you know that! lol
RadarKat73080 2 years ago