@Quintars I think it would have to depend on who finds him guilty of a crime. I'd be interested to learn more about parliamentary law to see how the changes his administration is making will impact everyday life in Canada.
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 I think attack ads are simply evidence of politicians who have nothing to say about themselves. So rather than run on their intents and their past practices, they just shoot down everyone else. It shows weakness, and it shows stupidity. It's lame. The worst part is that poorly educated people fall for it.
@Jamespot24 I'm not so sure I believe that. I think it is an uphill battle but when the gun registry is gone and the prisons start getting coverage...as well as the ballooning costs of the flawed new fighter jets (that need an operating system redesign adding about 2-billion dollars to the costs)...we'll see the Liberal and NDP come out with a cohesive voice.
@Szowski Im happy its gone. But people are being decieved by the CBC and other retarded channels into believing its for all guns. In fact I haven't see a "long gun registry" story on CBC that didn't show a hand gun in it. Or tell some tragic story about a mom whose son was killed with a illegal handgun.
Because really the long gun registry hasn't solved a single crime! It's just been a $2 billion tool for gun confiscation when they reclassify your non-restricted gun to prohibited.
Unfortunatly the 38% that allowed Harper to form a "majority" government do not watch youtube. The other 62% of us are not so computer illeterate. The sad fact is that alot of old people have to die off before we see some major change in government. Maybe, just maybe, in the next election Canada wont be so ignorant.
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 I think you may be misunderstanding my differentiation. There are ads in which opposing ideologies are made abudantly (almost offensively) clear. And then there are ads that twist the words of others. I have yet to see such an example prior to the Harper government's cited in the video above. Of course, I've engaged in a debate about a video that referred to a election that has since passed so I suppose I brought this on myself. So I'm happy to continue discussing it...
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 Attack ads are actually a fairly American practice. Canadian politics has been guilty of saying "Here's what they are doing wrong and what I will do instead." It has been the Harper Government (rather than the Government of Canada) who brought about such blatant lies and twisted revisionist statements.
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 You're right. It was out of line to resort to name calling. Just like it is out of line to assume I voted, or support, the Liberal party. Harper is a micromanaging politician. Sadly, I voted for this first minority. And then I got to know him during the reign of terror that has been his leadership. I disagree with lies and falsifying propaganda used to distort the facts and fool people out of voting their conscience. You think I'M arrogant? Look at your leader.
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 Y'know what's MORE pathetic? The fact that you don't recognize the irony of your own statement. My video takes the propaganda spewed from Tory attack ads featuring statements and video clips all taken out of context and edited to indicate a message grossly distorted from the actual facts and clarifies what was really said. I haven't given new interpretations. I have simply stated what Ignatieff really said. But, as an obvious Harper lemming, you probably can't read this.
Didn't know Canadians had rights anymore. Maybe the next best thing the Harper Government could do is return "freedom of speech rights", "gun rights", and "healthcare freedom" to Canadians... that's what Ron Paul would stand for.
@ThePlainzfyre Liberal propaganda doesn't come from rebutting Conservative propaganda. It is calling Harper out as the liar and bully that he is. Let me guess, you hate gay people and don't believe in climate change.
@ThePlainzfyre I'm fairly certain I didn't run in the election, so how could I have lost? Also, I didn't vote Liberal so my party didn't lose either. Of course, only LOSERS make assumptions like that. My video simply points out that attack ads released in 2008 were recycled in 2010 and contained the same misinformation and outright lies from the first time around.
We want TRANSPARENT PARTICIPATORY DEMOCRACY...NOT fuck wad elites ruling over Canada. "whine when your voice is not represented."???? WTF? ALL federal politicians are NOT truley democratic, they are dictatorial kleptocrats !!! Promoting "voting" every couple of years for a "party" in a system that disallows a poor person the ability to create a federal party ( you must produce past 'financials' and a hefty fee to be considered ) is NOT democracy, it is a kleptocracy.
when are humans going to get it, position's like these and any job offering stupid amounts of MONEY will always attract minds that if not already sick will soon become so.money has to be taken out of the equation in order to get the right people to do the job ,people who want the job for what its about and not the money its like putting a kid in charge of the chocolate shop and telling him not to eat any come on earth wake up your nearly there
It's sad your message didn't help... not only is he still the prime minister but now locked in for four years with a majority! Also, I'm pretty sure the conservatives were forced to create the economic action plan because of the opposition demands.
@rocketlauncherism The opposition requested some infrastructure spending to create jobs. But my message was merely that the attack ads were twisting words and telling lies. Harper will push his agenda through. It remains to be seen what will happen after that. I am still optimistic about the future. Harper or no.
Well, Stephen Harper is a man who works through misinformation and lies. If he answered more than four questions a day, we'd see him as a fat, bloated tick that he is.
@sohoboriker To be honest I'm not happy that he got a majority. I don't think he's done a well enough job to deserve that kind of popularity with the small number of people who voted. I just like to make inflammatory statements because politics makes me very mad and it draws attention to what he's done.
@Vindicatorization My statements on Alberta: "Harper's oil barren mentality sure takes care of everyone outside of Alberta. Folks working in Alberta seem to forget that the rest of the nation exists and has concerns about massive ecological upheaval and fiscal irresponsibility. Alberta is welcome to all of the CONservative supporters. Conservative Albertan mindset." At no time did I say Conservative support was limited to Alberta. I checked every single comment. #FTW
Were screwed say goodbye to our free health care cause this mother fucker never puts a dime into it and he will privatize it. He can pass his legislation cause he has majority now. He gives big tax cuts to the rich and middle and lower class people get nothing. You people who voted for him are all idiotic morons. Also he will kiss Americas ass and give away our natural resources.
@chaos2nyte Just keep in mind that the provincial NDP have little to do with the federal NDP other than take some equalization payments and collaborate on student loans. Don't confuse the two levels of government. Not saying how to vote but don't let that influence your decision either.
"Show me a young conservative and I will show you a man with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I will show you a man with no brain." -Winston Churchill
Keep Justice on the side of the victims instead of the criminals and Vote Conservative!
@ieetemos4breakfast Uh...in what respect? Building bigger prisons won't do anything for justice. In fact, it will create more organized criminals and lower the guard to inmate ratio. So it will HELP victims. And then there is the Con stance on youth offenders... ugh.
@sohoboriker in respect to stuff like focussing on the rights and feelings of the victim over the rights and feelings of the offenders. For example., Stephen Harper wantsto put the word "Rape" back into the criminal code because right now, rape is considered "sexual assault" which is equal to inappropiate touching. Rapeand inappropriate touching are two very different things. He also wants to put in reverse onus bail and he has gotten rid of the two for one credit in the awaiting trial periods.
@ieetemos4breakfast The existing justice system uses on a balanced view based on a crime. Adding "rape" back into the criminal code leaves the word up to the interpretation of judges. That is why an umbrella term has been used. Judges have the purview to determine an appropriate sentence based on the crime. If anything, Harper SHOULD focus on providing more mental health assistance to offenders rather than sticking them in a little room expecting things to be different when they're released.
when the word "rape" is used, there is no room for misinterpretation. Judges interpretation is what is causing the administration of justice to be disreputed. Many of these mental ailments cannot be solved either when it comes to sociopaths and pedophiles. people like that need to be incarcerated for the safety of the public. Another way to solve this issue is to give them a sentence that will insure safety of the public by not dishing out substantial prison terms, some people shouldnt get out.
IF HARPER GETS MAJORITY WE ARE SCREWED, HE CANT RUN HIS OWN CAMPAIGN HE USES SCARE TATICS AND DIS CREDITING OF OTHER PARTIES, HARPER STEP DOWN AND FUCK OFF
@Vindicatorization You couldn't be any more wrong about this. NDP especially has made very pointed statements about a schedule of change in which revenue would be measured in order to appropriately enact their platform without running a deficit and while ALSO starting to pay off HARPER'S ENORMOUS, RECORD SETTING DEFICIT. Do some reading outside of the media statements released by the CPC.
@soho I'm not in AB anymore, but its good to see Conservative support across the country. Funny how Canada is an industrialized country and Canadians in all walks of life benefit from that industry. Stimulating corporate and industrial Canada BENEFITS Canadians in all aspects of business including service industry, small business, etc. Yet the NDP/Liberals WILL increase taxes which WILL stifle the economy and people support that. People like you and thats your right in a democracy.
@Vindicatorization You say industrialized as if it is limited to a single industry. That is the saddest failing of the Conservative Albertan mindset. The Liberals and NDP have no plan to increase taxes. They simply don't plan to cut them a SECOND time. Look at the numbers. A cut of 1% in corporate taxes would generate 300-million dollars in new job wages (assuming corporations who want their shareholders to see them cutting costs would hire new people) but lose over a billion dollars in revenue.
@soho You lost me at some sort of young earth philosophy, which has absolutely nothing do with the public school system in AB. Not just that, you are assuming all of the numerous well educated Conservative supporters in AB are from AB and schooled in the fantasy theory you refer to, which is yet another of your grossly inaccurate assumptions.
@Vindicatorization The fact that you aren't aware of the change to provincial legislation that requires schools to give parents 24-48 hours notice before discussing evolution or sexual orientation in biology classes tells me exactly why this discussion has gone nowhere. But Alberta is welcome to all of the CONservative supporters. The rest of Canada would be better off.
@soho and yes most people realize that parliment and legislature operate as seperate entities. Different politicians, etc. obviously. There are good people in the NDP, its their policy/platform that is good in theory, yet sucks in practice. For what you said to be true re: uneducated Conservative voters. The entire conservative voter base in AB would have to be uneducated, which you yourself know to be untrue, and if they are uneducated, they are doing a pretty darned good job.
@Vindicatorization You're right. How could I suggest a province that would allow its education system to exclude students from science, pending 48-hour parental notification, to be ill informed and uneducated? After all, the earth is only 6000 years old and dinosaurs were really Jesus horses.
@Vindicatorization My apologies. I think it would be a mistake for Martin to accompany Ignatieff because he was in office when Chretien's ad scandal hit the airwaves. So some Conservatives would try to implicate Martin in this as a result. Of course, the Cons have never used statements out of context or tried to imply something by cutting off the end of a statement. Martin handed Harper a surplus and he managed to lose it AND increase the deficit to a record level in record time.
@soho Thats a pretty broad sweeping generalization, hardly anywhere near the truth. Hey, thanks for the reminder that people educated in impractical bullshit "run the country and companies I work for". Food for thought.
@sohoboriker any thoughts on Paul Martin campaigning w. Iggy because it helps promote a "fiscally responsible Liberal legacy", says Iggy. What about the NDP just about destroying the BC economy in the 90's. Yes there is debt. now but its able to be managed and much of it is due to an economic recession. Surely you don't feel the stock market crash is the Conservative's fault too.
@Vindicatorization BC NDP have a new leader and that was provincial politics which has an entirely different body of politicians. You really can't compare the two. An informed person would know that. Then again, the Cons count on the uneducated to support them based on feelings over reason.
@zulu547 lol. 3 subs at west ed. You forgot the retired deisel subs we bought from the UK. Top notch. We could probably hold our own against an attack from like Iceland, but it'd be close. LMAO
@Vindicatorization Again, I agree with improving our military. But all planes? We can buy cheaper drones with only a few planes and have cash left over for some tanks and anti-aircraft weaponry.
Well I'm undecided as to my political ideology, but i would say I'm right leaning. I would not support the NDP and Liberals for the following reasons:
1. They perpetrated this unnecessary election, which is a waste of money, through partisan politics.
2. If nothing changes, the 'disunited' left will possibly form a coalition.
3. If the left wins, or if the coalition comes to fruition, then spending on programs will increase, yet taxation on corporations will increase (which will be disastrous)
@hurdleify Tossing the Harper Government was not partisan. The Speaker found his government in contempt. There will be no coalition. Ignatieff and Layton both said that. And there will be SOME spending on social programs. Taxes won't increase. They'll be frozen. You can read, right?
@sohoboriker Well actually if you did any research on the contempt committee you would see its made of mostly people with liberal and New democrat backgrounds and you tell me that its not biased. Also the only reason this is government has been found in contempt is because its a minority, majority governments don't have to deal with this. Also Ignatieff has never said to the media, or publicly that he would not form a coalition. Also please think critically before you make general comments.
@sohoboriker As far as Kyoto is concerned, its a joke. A carbon market would be more effective. The US laughed off Kyoto. Proper thing. Canada is smart to follow suit.
@sohoboriker As far as Kyoto is concerned, its a joke. A carbon market would be more effective. No wonder the US laughed Kyoto off. Canada is smart to follow suit.
@sohoboriker How will AB be suffering any less than any other province from a lack of natural resources? AB invests huge in research and development toward clean energy. I think most people don't realize the carbon footprint from oil is tiny in comparison with coal. Dirty oil etc. Oil is oil. Its not going to change overnight. The country will suffer as a whole. I voted Green in the last election, but in this coming election they are just to irrelevant to the recession.
@sohoboriker There is a balance to social program spending. There is an increase in the Conservative platform for health care. A few drone planes to defend our borders? Why in the holy hell should Canada share her natural resources? So give away our natural resources and increase spending. We wont have to offer the banks tax breaks, we'll owe them the shirt off our backs.
@Vindicatorization The increase for health care is targeted specifically and Harper is still looking at privatizing aspects of health care that have been confirmed to suffer if public support is lost.
On election day, i will be voting Harper! Tax cuts for oil companies mean jobs! and that means Alberta can send more money to eastern provinces. Gun cuntrol.....waste of time, go after gangs with guns not lawful gun owners. Military and jets.......Ours are falling out of the sky! we need new ones, need proof? look up lethbridge airshow crash. And protecting the north and all its resources, and immagration need i go on? Its about time we had a majority Gov't! maybe some work can be done!
@sohoboriker There is a huge diffrence between propaganda and truth. Look at a map of Canada and tell me we dont need a bigger and better military. Big brother USA and the 3 subs at west edmonton mall are all that stands between us and Russia, or any other counrty eyeballin our resources for that fact.
@sohoboriker There is a huge diffrence between propaganda and truth. Look at a map of Canada and tell me we dont need a bigger and better military. Big brother USA and the 3 subs at west edmonton mall are all that stands between us and Russia, or any other counrty eyeballin our resources for that fact.
By the way, the equalization payments AB is pretty sick of are doing a pretty good job at "helping run the country, employ you and keep you safe". As would the F35s in our northern border dispute with russia. No, shut'er down and then that'll be an outcry as was the helicopter puchase cancel.
@Vindicatorization Alberta is but one province and equalization payments keep things fair across the board. When the oil dries up and the economy makes the final shift to a green economy, Alberta will be crying for their fair share. And so they should. One nation should share its resources. As for the planes, we could do the same job with markedly cheaper drones and a few planes when engagement was necessary.
Since when did i say academic pursuits were wrong? I just dont agree with taxation and to much social spending which is what the ndp and liberals are about. Harper has a masters in economics, bonus. Ignatieff sounds like a huff and puff aristocrat, kind of like you.
@Vindicatorization No, you didn't say they were wrong. You implied they are fluffy impractical bullshit. My bad. A Master's degree means you researched and wrote a long essay about one facet of a subject. It doesn't mean you have mastered the discipline. It means you have mastered one idea within it. I'm far from an aristocrat. Of course, neither is Ignatieff. His grandparents were wealthy. His parents died while he was a kid. He was raised in a working class home by relatives. Do your homework.
Taxation this, kyoto that, environment this, social program spending that. All the while the solutions the liberal/ndp propose are crap. Sry, i agree to disagree. Taxation and social spending is even worse than Harper.
@Vindicatorization Though I have the utmost respect for "the trades" since they continue to be a cornerstone of world society, I can't help but be insulted by the fact that academic pursuits are impractical in your mind or that I am purely liberal. I consider myself a social conservative, for the most part. And keep in mind that the people who are educated in impractical bullshit create the plans you work from, run the nation that keeps you safe, and run the companies that employ you.
While working in the oil patch Premier Ed Stelmach raised corporate tax levels and chased shallow gas out of the province. This was a very shitty deal. He realized this and lowered corporate tax levels. This breathed new life into the drilling sector. Its slowly coming back to life. This is a good thing.
@Vindicatorization Selective tax breaks or tax credits may be a better solution than widespread change that hurts the nation overall. Folks working in Alberta, in the midst of oil money that is ultimately temporary, seem to forget that the rest of the nation exists and has concerns about massive ecological upheaval and fiscal irresponsibility.
Don't you think Ontarios manufacturing could use a tax break in a desperate economy? But, in the midst of recession the Liberal party would hike the tax rate to "previous levels." This would absolutely, positively choke the lifeblood out of an already struggling economy. The hell with Ignatieff, he's a complete moron.
@Vindicatorization Ontario was screwed by provincial leaders. The tax breaks have been for oil, banks, and car manufacturers (who, I might add, just pulled two plants out of the province following two previous rounds of tax breaks) all of whom haven't hired new employees or even maintained the existing employee base. Tax breaks have not improved employment numbers.
Allowing corporate tax breaks stimulates the economy from the top down. Have seen it happen. Have also seen corporate tax hikes absolutely choke an economy. Didn't read it in a book. Didn't study it in school. Its just plain good economic policy, which Harper supports, and I support, having lived through those conditions. Fact.
@Vindicatorization So where have you seen this happen? If you didn't read it or study it, how can you suggest it makes sense or is "good economic policy?"
The seal hunt is the least of our worries. I'm with the Newfies on this one, it's no big deal. Harper should be skinned alive? According to your set of values, you should be hung for treason.
@Vindicatorization The DEFICIT has grown by 54-billion dollars under Stephen Harper. How can you take a 36-billion dollar surplus from a previous Conservative government, add another 18-billion dollars from the following Liberal government...and piss it away as well as 54-billion dollars you don't even have? Where do you get your "facts?" And it isn't tax HIKES. It is maintenance of tax levels at the rate that existed before Harper started slashing every source of revenue.
Harper has a masters in economics and used to work for big oil in the west. Hes not a right wing extremist descended from aristocrats. Hes just a guy trying to fix the economy in the best way he knows how based on his experience. The NDP would bankrupt this country. Ignatieff sounds like a parrot "guns, jails, and jets" , "guns, jails, and jets"...."bawwwk". "family pack", "family pack"....."bawwwk". Meanwhile his economic plan is lousy.
@Vindicatorization And yet Harper totally ignored a global recession, is wasting our money in record amounts, oversaw the wrongful arrest of a record number of Canadians, has directly attacked womens and gay rights, and has repeatedly attacked people who even potentially supporting other parties.
Besides, Conservatives have historically been terrible with the economy. Read real books, not talking points.
Harper is a right wing extremist. Tell your neighbors! He will ruin us. He's deliberately spending us into massive debt, to buy fighter jets THAT DON'T HAVE DOUBLE ENGINES, SO THEY'RE NOT MUCH USE FLYING OVER THE ARCTIC. No other country wants the F-35's. And he wants to put pot smokers in jail, in new prisons. Eighteen months for possession. There are 3 million pot smokers in Canada. Harper will jail us, then say, gosh--no money left for universal health care. Harper is bad news for Canada.
@denverhoo The fact that you use the word "retarded" tells me exactly how uneducated you are. Sadly this is typical of the Conservative voter base in nations around the world. You misspell commercial twice. You misspell won't. You don't use capital letters. And your "phrases" are incomplete "thoughts" at best. I choose to avoid a response to anything you have to say other than to point out you didn't really say anything at all.
now my friend hole on to your selve LOL don,t get foolish i worked since the age of 13 fished and farmed the to hardest fuckin jobs in the world and i lreaned at a young age that any fool can make money but it takes someone to save it don,t it i know about their lies i lived with it understand their fuckin draggers cleaned up our fish and the fools that didn,t look out for BSE put us out of the cattle industry I KNOW like i said i lived their lies but i guess his better BETTER THAN NOTHING LOL
This is stupid, Either way we're all going to get fucked with more money out of our pay checks. Regardless,Every time harper shits the bed, Gas prices go up 9 cents
may 2nd i vote, and if harper government win a majority, i fucking go to europe. Fuck this ideological maniac! I dare him to taint our great reputation around the world!
@AEDGRD Actually, I offer the counterpoint to his attacks on Ignatieff but I'm happy to offer you some specific reasons why he'll continue to clawback Canadian values in favour of the Americanization ideology he preached as head of the National Citizens Coalition. Mulroney's (PC) $38 billion deficit of 93 was turned into Martin's (Lib) surplus of $16 billion by 2006. Harper (CPC) has produced a record $54 billion deficit in two years. His economic success claims stem from Martin's regulation.
@AEDGRD There's also Harper's unconditional $75 billion bank bailout that requires no new regulation. The banks get money for their mistakes & have no responsibility to prevent them in the future. Harper is introducing tax cuts that will create a $5.6 billion revenue cut for Canadian social programs that benefit all citizens. He's screwed our rep internationally backing out of Kyoto commitments. Other nations walked out on his speeches at the UN. Only happened to Iran & Libya in recent years.
@AEDGRD His admin supported military torture with the loophole of handing detainees to other governments knowing it will happen. He wants to destroy the long-gun registry but law enforcement officials say it has saved lives & solved crimes. Crime rates are down & the population is aging but Harper chooses new prisons over more support for the baby boomers about to overtax our existing health care system. His priorities are totally warped. But he can give his buddies construction contracts. So...
@sohoboriker Interesting then, that Ignatieff is the only party leader on record supporting internationally recognized torture and waterboarding. Of course this was while Ignatieff was living for his decades in the U.S. and the same time when Ignatieff was saying on the public record that he loved his country (America), and that he was disgusted by Canada. Oh, by the way, Ignatieff's family was a very wealthy group of aristrocrats, Iggy is an actual Count, who stole money from the Russians
@slyder25 He supported the military's interrogation of detainees and, like the vast majority of Americans, did not know torture was being used. He didn't live in the U.S. for "decades." Yes, he said he loved the nation that employed him. I would too. He said he was disgusted by HARPER'S Canada. EVERY political leader feels that way right now, as well as the vast majority of leaders internationally.
@slyder25 His FAMILY was descended from aristocrats. His father was wealthy by inheritance & escaped the Communist Revolution with his family. He managed to stash money outside the country when Stalin's regime came to power. LOTS of families fled Russia during the Revolution because if you weren't WITH the government & followed their ideology you were persecuted as an enemy of the state. Learn your history & read something OTHER than Harper's propaganda. PRETEND you have a mind of your own.
@AEDGRD I think I've offered enough "hard evidence" for my stance against Harper. You sound far from undecided. I gather you simply wanted to paint your comments as being unbiased when you're simply finding ways to criticize this vid. Feel free to offer counterpoint. The vid is meant to inspire debate. I know I won't vote Conservative while Harper is in office. I made the mistake of supporting him in 2006. Never again. I am still torn on Green, NDP, or Liberal at this point. At least I'm honest.
a@AEDGRD Evidently you like his authoritarian style of government. This is far from "generic lambasting" as you choose to put it. So like the video says, spend 250 hours on the web as I have and you will find out more disgusting things about Harper than you will ever want to know. Start with his Northern Foundation, white supremest Nazi group He's a control freak like no other..
Soft, soothing voice. Comfortably bias arguement. Iggy was "forced" to work in the US. Cool canadian celebrities live abroad. Iggy rolls up his sleeves and unbuttons his blue collar, therefore he is relevant to the working man. You're right, this is a "reasonable, factual commentary" (liberal add). What was I thinking. Thank you, I've seen the light.
@Vindicatorization LOL Thanks for the compliment on my voice. I guess I need to lay it all out here. I voted Conservative in 2006. I contributed to getting Harper into office. And all of his promises have been broken or twisted into something I can no longer support. I am still undecided. I simply used the Ignatieff attack ads as fodder to point out how Harper continues to manipulate the Conservative message through the media.
@Artarous LOL I love that you assume I have chosen who I will vote for in the election. I just know that I will no longer tolerate a dick-tator. He's a pompous blowhard who will lie to the public to get his personal agenda across. If you support him that's fine. Whatever your reasons, I assume they are entirely opinion-based rather than being based upon sound logic.
@sohoboriker come here I will give you a hug. There are 3 lvls of govern 1 your mayor he takes care of ur comfort and city, 2 ur province watches over money spent and jobs etc. 3 big wig. He/she needs to keep us secure and making money. Protect us and appear serious and a little mean. He has lead us through the hard times. are you hungry? Are you on the street? times are tough I know.
@Artarous My friend, I am VERY well-informed on each level of government. Municipal government takes care of some facets of the local community. The province shares responsibility on that, and infrastructure is a shared responsibility of all three levels. But enough of clarifying your explanation. I am not hungry because I work two jobs. I am not on the street because I work two jobs. Harper's only job has been to hide spending and legislation from the people who put him in office.
@Artarous As always, Harper supporters have nothing reasonable or quasi-intelligent to say. This is a reasonable, factual commentary on Harper's and Ignatieff's points of view and you wouldn't recognize it as such if it jumped up and bit you. If you can't argue more effectively than calling names, you don't deserve an opinion.
@Dimcle come here I will give you a hug. There are 3 lvls of govern 1 your mayor he takes care of ur comfort and city, 2 ur province watches over money spent and jobs etc. 3 big wig. He/she needs to keep us secure and making money. Protect us and appear serious and a little mean. He has lead us through the hard times. are you hungry? Are you on the street? times are tough I know.
@Artarous He led us through the hard times? Now I know that you haven't done your homework. When he was the Opposition Leader, Harper wanted to deregulate our financial institutions. In other words, he wanted loose rules just like in the U.S. The Liberals didn't let it happen. Look it up - the only reason that Canada has done so much better, economically, than most of the other countries IS BECAUSE OF OUR STRICT BANKING REGULATIONS. Harper had nothing to do with it. Learn, junior.
thats sure enough there not worth the money thats payed for them but i guess maybe 40 percent of whats payed is the money to pay carpenters to build it see if u build your own thats not there is it i was told here a house thats 200 thousand with vineal on it , if its covered with spruce wood its 300 thousand i guess the cost to put the wood on it is more time for carpenters they gotta get payed to
theres no way that there can be a pay off if the house is not payed for can,t happen, if it do, its not done right thats the trouble isn,t it i guess theres only 3 ways to do anything the right way the wrong way and your own way the last 2 ways is wrong right so i guess it won,t work will it LOL
@rumbolt123 Oh. OK I see what you're getting at now. Yes, I totally agree. Many Newfoundlanders certainly have it right in that respect. Building your own house as you can afford the construction costs is certainly a smarter idea. Sadly, many Canadians don't live in areas with the same kind of community support that exists in many areas of the Rock.
itslike a goverment job okay the man is payed at the end of the week with tax payers money but as a fisherman if i take a fish from the ocean and sent it over seas to another country thats a new dollar in our hands right that money wasn,t there before i was payed right so whats good for our country LOL
and put our banks behind or build it on our own what your saying is that its okay for the bank to wait for money their not a 100 percent sure of getting that won,t work LOL they need money to work right
@rumbolt123 Though I agree with your statement on credit and loans, there is still sensible business to be had through interest being accumulated on the balance. So you are essentially paying the bank to buy a house for you with the agreement that you will pay them for that service while also reimbursing them for the loan. So on the bank's end, it is new money. It is the fact that you ultimately pay more than what the house is worth to purchase it that becomes troublesome.
yea its a pay off but how if the people that buy it don,t pay for it LOL like i said wood concrete and plastic is no good to a bank and who owns the banks where the canadain money is kept THE GOVERMENT isn,t it, the bank sells the house but to who ,will the next guy pay for it see here in newfoundland most all homes are payed for while being build i build mind took 6 or 7 years when i walked in i owned it and the bank didn,t have no say so is it better to take a loan for 30 years
sittin on the ground but no one can carry that to the bank so the bank got that money gone can,t run on that LOL but if you build your home on your own the money is still on the move RIGHT LOL its not left sittin on the ground RIGHT LOL
its only my opinion but when it come to the federal goverment now i think they done fine with what mr harper had placed in his hands to work with the way he put it here was the right way wheir all canadains here and he,ll do his best now heres something to think about if 2 young folks buys a new home and their background is not frimly known the bank owns the house and they can,t pay for it what happens BANKS cannot work on wood and concrete LOL and if they walk out the money is where
@rumbolt123 It may be the grammar but some of your argument appears to be missing. If a bank invests in a mortgage it is because there is a pay off for them. Harper has nothing to do with it. It is the bank looking at a profit margin. And if the consumer defaults on the mortgage the bank sells the house and gain all of the profit plus any money paid down on the mortgage.
Very well done! What resonnates with me is your emphasis on the consideration of ideas. Those I do know who support Harper seem to lack that thoughtfulness to think ideas through. It's all about acting before thinking, scream about impressive sounding things and not actually use reason or data. The tough on crime stance, unsubstantiated by actual evidence, is one example of screaming for more incarceration despite the fact the outcome of these stances result in increased crime rates.
@solidaridadglobal There is also the fact that our system of incarceration has been proven not to achieve its own goals - that of punishment in the technical sense of the word. It removes people from society in the short term and never really reintegrates these people upon their release. There is never really a chance for criminals to "go straight" because the primary issue which precipitated the crime has not been addressed meaningfully.
It's interesting that across Canada we are in need of public prosecutors and judges, but the Harper government would rather build prisons to hold people than to hire or appoint more judges and lawyers. People can languish in prison awaiting trials for months and then be released with the charges dropped. Is that what is intended to continue as a trend by Harper and his neo-cons. This prison industry can be very lucrative for some.
Harper makes mistakes, ALL CANDIDATES MAKE MISTAKES and some ideas become stupid idea... WE LEARN FROM THEM. But this calling for elections when ever the government feels like crying because their party lost is getting out of control you wasting Canadian tax dollars and I THINK A RULE NEED TO BE PUT IN EFFECT THAT THIS HAS TO STOP AND A CANDIDATE IS TO FULL FILL HIS TERM UNTIL ITS FINISHED... ENOUGH OF THE GAMES..... STOPPPP
I think it is ironic that you are defending a candidate who promised to impose terms for leaders and has failed to do so. Your problem is essentially another broken promise by Harper.
@sohoboriker Harper isn't my problem its the calling of elections none stop, I agree with the current issues its the fact that they can never figure out a way they just rush to elections and things go down hill.
No more NDP betrayal or Liberal gun control.
- Make criminals do there time.
Harper is the best we've got.
dljprogun 5 days ago
Not saying harper is good or bad but the ndp and liberals would be worse. ndp is a joke.
craniumcasey 1 month ago
@craniumcasey I both agree and disagree. I think Harper was at least managable as a minority leader.
sohoboriker 1 month ago
@Quintars I think it would have to depend on who finds him guilty of a crime. I'd be interested to learn more about parliamentary law to see how the changes his administration is making will impact everyday life in Canada.
sohoboriker 2 months ago
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 I think attack ads are simply evidence of politicians who have nothing to say about themselves. So rather than run on their intents and their past practices, they just shoot down everyone else. It shows weakness, and it shows stupidity. It's lame. The worst part is that poorly educated people fall for it.
sohoboriker 3 months ago
CANADA IS NOT CANADA ANYMORE
cyazuri 4 months ago 4
@cyazuri I'm not sure I understand that statement.
sohoboriker 3 months ago
@sohoboriker probably has been sold to the corporations or something. vote counts don't matter anymore, everything is rigged.
cyazuri 3 months ago
@sohoboriker let me make it simpole for you, Haper does NOT represent the values that Canadians have always had since independence.
monkeyboyn25 1 month ago
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Jamespot24 1 month ago
@Jamespot24 I'm not so sure I believe that. I think it is an uphill battle but when the gun registry is gone and the prisons start getting coverage...as well as the ballooning costs of the flawed new fighter jets (that need an operating system redesign adding about 2-billion dollars to the costs)...we'll see the Liberal and NDP come out with a cohesive voice.
sohoboriker 1 month ago
@sohoboriker Excuse me did you say the gun registry will be gone! Would you like to correct that statement?
The fighter jets are flawed. How so mechanically?
u really want the Libs/NDP to merge and be like the US with a 2 party system?
Jamespot24 1 month ago
@Jamespot24 lol MARCH 30th ITS OUT SO SUCK IT!!! :)
Szowski 2 hours ago
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@Szowski Im happy its gone. But people are being decieved by the CBC and other retarded channels into believing its for all guns. In fact I haven't see a "long gun registry" story on CBC that didn't show a hand gun in it. Or tell some tragic story about a mom whose son was killed with a illegal handgun.
Because really the long gun registry hasn't solved a single crime! It's just been a $2 billion tool for gun confiscation when they reclassify your non-restricted gun to prohibited.
Jamespot24 1 hour ago
@Jamespot24 we shall see =)
monkeyboyn25 1 month ago
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@monkeyboyn25
Before it gets censored by #ACTA.
Real Footage of Real banks causing Real problems.
Watch #HowToRobABank at UmotionS.com
See the Trailer at my channel.
Link is the in the description.
DedmanUmotionS 1 week ago
Unfortunatly the 38% that allowed Harper to form a "majority" government do not watch youtube. The other 62% of us are not so computer illeterate. The sad fact is that alot of old people have to die off before we see some major change in government. Maybe, just maybe, in the next election Canada wont be so ignorant.
drake6430 3 months ago
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@drake6430
Before it gets censored by #ACTA.
Real Footage of Real banks causing Real problems.
Watch #HowToRobABank at UmotionS.com
See the Trailer at my channel.
Link is the in the description.
DedmanUmotionS 1 week ago
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@cyazuri
Before it gets censored by #ACTA.
Real Footage of Real banks causing Real problems.
Watch #HowToRobABank at UmotionS.com
See the Trailer at my channel.
Link is the in the description.
DedmanUmotionS 1 week ago
@cyazuri Ya It Even better now we have a good LEADER ......GO HARPER!!!!
Szowski 2 hours ago
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 I think you may be misunderstanding my differentiation. There are ads in which opposing ideologies are made abudantly (almost offensively) clear. And then there are ads that twist the words of others. I have yet to see such an example prior to the Harper government's cited in the video above. Of course, I've engaged in a debate about a video that referred to a election that has since passed so I suppose I brought this on myself. So I'm happy to continue discussing it...
sohoboriker 4 months ago
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 Attack ads are actually a fairly American practice. Canadian politics has been guilty of saying "Here's what they are doing wrong and what I will do instead." It has been the Harper Government (rather than the Government of Canada) who brought about such blatant lies and twisted revisionist statements.
sohoboriker 4 months ago
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 You're right. It was out of line to resort to name calling. Just like it is out of line to assume I voted, or support, the Liberal party. Harper is a micromanaging politician. Sadly, I voted for this first minority. And then I got to know him during the reign of terror that has been his leadership. I disagree with lies and falsifying propaganda used to distort the facts and fool people out of voting their conscience. You think I'M arrogant? Look at your leader.
sohoboriker 4 months ago
@MrSuperCoolGuy64 Y'know what's MORE pathetic? The fact that you don't recognize the irony of your own statement. My video takes the propaganda spewed from Tory attack ads featuring statements and video clips all taken out of context and edited to indicate a message grossly distorted from the actual facts and clarifies what was really said. I haven't given new interpretations. I have simply stated what Ignatieff really said. But, as an obvious Harper lemming, you probably can't read this.
sohoboriker 4 months ago
Didn't know Canadians had rights anymore. Maybe the next best thing the Harper Government could do is return "freedom of speech rights", "gun rights", and "healthcare freedom" to Canadians... that's what Ron Paul would stand for.
calebmallen 5 months ago
@ThePlainzfyre Your closet must be enormous.
sohoboriker 6 months ago
@ThePlainzfyre Liberal propaganda doesn't come from rebutting Conservative propaganda. It is calling Harper out as the liar and bully that he is. Let me guess, you hate gay people and don't believe in climate change.
sohoboriker 6 months ago
@ThePlainzfyre I'm fairly certain I didn't run in the election, so how could I have lost? Also, I didn't vote Liberal so my party didn't lose either. Of course, only LOSERS make assumptions like that. My video simply points out that attack ads released in 2008 were recycled in 2010 and contained the same misinformation and outright lies from the first time around.
sohoboriker 6 months ago
@ThePlainzfyre As for "a year behind," why not look at the details and figure out how long ago this was posted? Who's the loser?
sohoboriker 6 months ago
@ThePlainzfyre Reload my video? What does that even mean?
sohoboriker 6 months ago
tired of all the federal bullshit ? you tube search: ZEITGEIST: MOVING FORWARD | OFFICIAL RELEASE | 2011
JonathanSeagullUtube 6 months ago
tired of all the federal bullshit ? you tube search: " What is Anonymous? What is "The Plan"? "
JonathanSeagullUtube 6 months ago
We want TRANSPARENT PARTICIPATORY DEMOCRACY...NOT fuck wad elites ruling over Canada. "whine when your voice is not represented."???? WTF? ALL federal politicians are NOT truley democratic, they are dictatorial kleptocrats !!! Promoting "voting" every couple of years for a "party" in a system that disallows a poor person the ability to create a federal party ( you must produce past 'financials' and a hefty fee to be considered ) is NOT democracy, it is a kleptocracy.
JonathanSeagullUtube 6 months ago
Stephen Harper seems bent on turning Canada into America please don't do it I live in the Southern part of the united states its a freakin'hell whole
ArseneIncubus3 7 months ago
@ArseneIncubus3 We can only hope "Little Bush" is ousted before he screws the country entirely.
sohoboriker 7 months ago
when are humans going to get it, position's like these and any job offering stupid amounts of MONEY will always attract minds that if not already sick will soon become so.money has to be taken out of the equation in order to get the right people to do the job ,people who want the job for what its about and not the money its like putting a kid in charge of the chocolate shop and telling him not to eat any come on earth wake up your nearly there
MyHenry22 9 months ago 2
@MyHenry22 I agree. I would love to see a different system in place. I just wonder what sort of design might work.
sohoboriker 9 months ago
It's sad your message didn't help... not only is he still the prime minister but now locked in for four years with a majority! Also, I'm pretty sure the conservatives were forced to create the economic action plan because of the opposition demands.
rocketlauncherism 9 months ago
@rocketlauncherism The opposition requested some infrastructure spending to create jobs. But my message was merely that the attack ads were twisting words and telling lies. Harper will push his agenda through. It remains to be seen what will happen after that. I am still optimistic about the future. Harper or no.
sohoboriker 9 months ago
Well, Stephen Harper is a man who works through misinformation and lies. If he answered more than four questions a day, we'd see him as a fat, bloated tick that he is.
georgekostaras 9 months ago
@georgekostaras LOL But how do you really feel?
sohoboriker 9 months ago
@sohoboriker To be honest I'm not happy that he got a majority. I don't think he's done a well enough job to deserve that kind of popularity with the small number of people who voted. I just like to make inflammatory statements because politics makes me very mad and it draws attention to what he's done.
georgekostaras 9 months ago
@georgekostaras Well said. Rational statements. Agreed.
sohoboriker 9 months ago
CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY! ATTA BOY HARPER!
cpl2929 9 months ago
@soho actually you did. But whatever, logging off your pointless debate, the elections over.
Vindicatorization 9 months ago
@Vindicatorization My statements on Alberta: "Harper's oil barren mentality sure takes care of everyone outside of Alberta. Folks working in Alberta seem to forget that the rest of the nation exists and has concerns about massive ecological upheaval and fiscal irresponsibility. Alberta is welcome to all of the CONservative supporters. Conservative Albertan mindset." At no time did I say Conservative support was limited to Alberta. I checked every single comment. #FTW
sohoboriker 9 months ago
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fingerling83 10 months ago
Were screwed say goodbye to our free health care cause this mother fucker never puts a dime into it and he will privatize it. He can pass his legislation cause he has majority now. He gives big tax cuts to the rich and middle and lower class people get nothing. You people who voted for him are all idiotic morons. Also he will kiss Americas ass and give away our natural resources.
747777 10 months ago
So the Conservative support wasn't just in Alberta afterall.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization Who said it was? Alberta was his riding.
sohoboriker 9 months ago
I'm voting this asshole out of government today.
denisethepainter 10 months ago 2
NDP messed up British Columbia's economy when they got in there and this makes voting for them scary.
chaos2nyte 10 months ago
@chaos2nyte Just keep in mind that the provincial NDP have little to do with the federal NDP other than take some equalization payments and collaborate on student loans. Don't confuse the two levels of government. Not saying how to vote but don't let that influence your decision either.
sohoboriker 10 months ago 2
"Show me a young conservative and I will show you a man with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I will show you a man with no brain." -Winston Churchill
Keep Justice on the side of the victims instead of the criminals and Vote Conservative!
ieetemos4breakfast 10 months ago
@ieetemos4breakfast Uh...in what respect? Building bigger prisons won't do anything for justice. In fact, it will create more organized criminals and lower the guard to inmate ratio. So it will HELP victims. And then there is the Con stance on youth offenders... ugh.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@sohoboriker in respect to stuff like focussing on the rights and feelings of the victim over the rights and feelings of the offenders. For example., Stephen Harper wantsto put the word "Rape" back into the criminal code because right now, rape is considered "sexual assault" which is equal to inappropiate touching. Rapeand inappropriate touching are two very different things. He also wants to put in reverse onus bail and he has gotten rid of the two for one credit in the awaiting trial periods.
ieetemos4breakfast 10 months ago
@ieetemos4breakfast The existing justice system uses on a balanced view based on a crime. Adding "rape" back into the criminal code leaves the word up to the interpretation of judges. That is why an umbrella term has been used. Judges have the purview to determine an appropriate sentence based on the crime. If anything, Harper SHOULD focus on providing more mental health assistance to offenders rather than sticking them in a little room expecting things to be different when they're released.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
when the word "rape" is used, there is no room for misinterpretation. Judges interpretation is what is causing the administration of justice to be disreputed. Many of these mental ailments cannot be solved either when it comes to sociopaths and pedophiles. people like that need to be incarcerated for the safety of the public. Another way to solve this issue is to give them a sentence that will insure safety of the public by not dishing out substantial prison terms, some people shouldnt get out.
ieetemos4breakfast 10 months ago
IF HARPER GETS MAJORITY WE ARE SCREWED, HE CANT RUN HIS OWN CAMPAIGN HE USES SCARE TATICS AND DIS CREDITING OF OTHER PARTIES, HARPER STEP DOWN AND FUCK OFF
canthavethenameutube 10 months ago 2
Correction. NDP/Liberals WILL increase taxes (if given opportunity to do so).
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization You couldn't be any more wrong about this. NDP especially has made very pointed statements about a schedule of change in which revenue would be measured in order to appropriately enact their platform without running a deficit and while ALSO starting to pay off HARPER'S ENORMOUS, RECORD SETTING DEFICIT. Do some reading outside of the media statements released by the CPC.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@soho I'm not in AB anymore, but its good to see Conservative support across the country. Funny how Canada is an industrialized country and Canadians in all walks of life benefit from that industry. Stimulating corporate and industrial Canada BENEFITS Canadians in all aspects of business including service industry, small business, etc. Yet the NDP/Liberals WILL increase taxes which WILL stifle the economy and people support that. People like you and thats your right in a democracy.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization You say industrialized as if it is limited to a single industry. That is the saddest failing of the Conservative Albertan mindset. The Liberals and NDP have no plan to increase taxes. They simply don't plan to cut them a SECOND time. Look at the numbers. A cut of 1% in corporate taxes would generate 300-million dollars in new job wages (assuming corporations who want their shareholders to see them cutting costs would hire new people) but lose over a billion dollars in revenue.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@soho You lost me at some sort of young earth philosophy, which has absolutely nothing do with the public school system in AB. Not just that, you are assuming all of the numerous well educated Conservative supporters in AB are from AB and schooled in the fantasy theory you refer to, which is yet another of your grossly inaccurate assumptions.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization The fact that you aren't aware of the change to provincial legislation that requires schools to give parents 24-48 hours notice before discussing evolution or sexual orientation in biology classes tells me exactly why this discussion has gone nowhere. But Alberta is welcome to all of the CONservative supporters. The rest of Canada would be better off.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@soho and yes most people realize that parliment and legislature operate as seperate entities. Different politicians, etc. obviously. There are good people in the NDP, its their policy/platform that is good in theory, yet sucks in practice. For what you said to be true re: uneducated Conservative voters. The entire conservative voter base in AB would have to be uneducated, which you yourself know to be untrue, and if they are uneducated, they are doing a pretty darned good job.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization You're right. How could I suggest a province that would allow its education system to exclude students from science, pending 48-hour parental notification, to be ill informed and uneducated? After all, the earth is only 6000 years old and dinosaurs were really Jesus horses.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@soho You didn't comment on the Martin thing, but I guess the Liberals count on the uninformed to be swayed by that malarky.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization My apologies. I think it would be a mistake for Martin to accompany Ignatieff because he was in office when Chretien's ad scandal hit the airwaves. So some Conservatives would try to implicate Martin in this as a result. Of course, the Cons have never used statements out of context or tried to imply something by cutting off the end of a statement. Martin handed Harper a surplus and he managed to lose it AND increase the deficit to a record level in record time.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@soho Thats a pretty broad sweeping generalization, hardly anywhere near the truth. Hey, thanks for the reminder that people educated in impractical bullshit "run the country and companies I work for". Food for thought.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@majorkron I don't take advice from numb-skulls. Save your advise for the easily swayed. Sheep.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
Vindicatorization and Hurdleify stfu
bottom line Harper is for corporate interests not ours
majorkron 10 months ago 2
@sohoboriker any thoughts on Paul Martin campaigning w. Iggy because it helps promote a "fiscally responsible Liberal legacy", says Iggy. What about the NDP just about destroying the BC economy in the 90's. Yes there is debt. now but its able to be managed and much of it is due to an economic recession. Surely you don't feel the stock market crash is the Conservative's fault too.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization BC NDP have a new leader and that was provincial politics which has an entirely different body of politicians. You really can't compare the two. An informed person would know that. Then again, the Cons count on the uneducated to support them based on feelings over reason.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@zulu547 lol. 3 subs at west ed. You forgot the retired deisel subs we bought from the UK. Top notch. We could probably hold our own against an attack from like Iceland, but it'd be close. LMAO
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization Again, I agree with improving our military. But all planes? We can buy cheaper drones with only a few planes and have cash left over for some tanks and anti-aircraft weaponry.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@hurdleify. Agreed, especially on the point of the economic maelstrom which would follow having handed the NDP and/or Liberals the reins.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
Well I'm undecided as to my political ideology, but i would say I'm right leaning. I would not support the NDP and Liberals for the following reasons:
1. They perpetrated this unnecessary election, which is a waste of money, through partisan politics.
2. If nothing changes, the 'disunited' left will possibly form a coalition.
3. If the left wins, or if the coalition comes to fruition, then spending on programs will increase, yet taxation on corporations will increase (which will be disastrous)
hurdleify 10 months ago
@hurdleify Tossing the Harper Government was not partisan. The Speaker found his government in contempt. There will be no coalition. Ignatieff and Layton both said that. And there will be SOME spending on social programs. Taxes won't increase. They'll be frozen. You can read, right?
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@sohoboriker Well actually if you did any research on the contempt committee you would see its made of mostly people with liberal and New democrat backgrounds and you tell me that its not biased. Also the only reason this is government has been found in contempt is because its a minority, majority governments don't have to deal with this. Also Ignatieff has never said to the media, or publicly that he would not form a coalition. Also please think critically before you make general comments.
hurdleify 10 months ago
Harper put us around 81 million in debt what a guy
HammerHead5566 10 months ago
@sohoboriker As far as Kyoto is concerned, its a joke. A carbon market would be more effective. The US laughed off Kyoto. Proper thing. Canada is smart to follow suit.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@sohoboriker As far as Kyoto is concerned, its a joke. A carbon market would be more effective. No wonder the US laughed Kyoto off. Canada is smart to follow suit.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@sohoboriker How will AB be suffering any less than any other province from a lack of natural resources? AB invests huge in research and development toward clean energy. I think most people don't realize the carbon footprint from oil is tiny in comparison with coal. Dirty oil etc. Oil is oil. Its not going to change overnight. The country will suffer as a whole. I voted Green in the last election, but in this coming election they are just to irrelevant to the recession.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@sohoboriker There is a balance to social program spending. There is an increase in the Conservative platform for health care. A few drone planes to defend our borders? Why in the holy hell should Canada share her natural resources? So give away our natural resources and increase spending. We wont have to offer the banks tax breaks, we'll owe them the shirt off our backs.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization The increase for health care is targeted specifically and Harper is still looking at privatizing aspects of health care that have been confirmed to suffer if public support is lost.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
On election day, i will be voting Harper! Tax cuts for oil companies mean jobs! and that means Alberta can send more money to eastern provinces. Gun cuntrol.....waste of time, go after gangs with guns not lawful gun owners. Military and jets.......Ours are falling out of the sky! we need new ones, need proof? look up lethbridge airshow crash. And protecting the north and all its resources, and immagration need i go on? Its about time we had a majority Gov't! maybe some work can be done!
zulu547 10 months ago
@zulu547 Too much propaganda. Not sure what to start with...
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@sohoboriker There is a huge diffrence between propaganda and truth. Look at a map of Canada and tell me we dont need a bigger and better military. Big brother USA and the 3 subs at west edmonton mall are all that stands between us and Russia, or any other counrty eyeballin our resources for that fact.
zulu547 10 months ago
@sohoboriker There is a huge diffrence between propaganda and truth. Look at a map of Canada and tell me we dont need a bigger and better military. Big brother USA and the 3 subs at west edmonton mall are all that stands between us and Russia, or any other counrty eyeballin our resources for that fact.
zulu547 10 months ago
I will be in the voting booth, voting for the Conservatives. Thanks for the vid, was entertaining but didn't change my mind in a the slightest
Tripyourift2 10 months ago
@Tripyourift2 Thanks for watching! Not trying to change minds here. Just offering counterpoints to deceitful attack ads.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
By the way, the equalization payments AB is pretty sick of are doing a pretty good job at "helping run the country, employ you and keep you safe". As would the F35s in our northern border dispute with russia. No, shut'er down and then that'll be an outcry as was the helicopter puchase cancel.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization Alberta is but one province and equalization payments keep things fair across the board. When the oil dries up and the economy makes the final shift to a green economy, Alberta will be crying for their fair share. And so they should. One nation should share its resources. As for the planes, we could do the same job with markedly cheaper drones and a few planes when engagement was necessary.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
Since when did i say academic pursuits were wrong? I just dont agree with taxation and to much social spending which is what the ndp and liberals are about. Harper has a masters in economics, bonus. Ignatieff sounds like a huff and puff aristocrat, kind of like you.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization No, you didn't say they were wrong. You implied they are fluffy impractical bullshit. My bad. A Master's degree means you researched and wrote a long essay about one facet of a subject. It doesn't mean you have mastered the discipline. It means you have mastered one idea within it. I'm far from an aristocrat. Of course, neither is Ignatieff. His grandparents were wealthy. His parents died while he was a kid. He was raised in a working class home by relatives. Do your homework.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
Taxation this, kyoto that, environment this, social program spending that. All the while the solutions the liberal/ndp propose are crap. Sry, i agree to disagree. Taxation and social spending is even worse than Harper.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization So you WANT to pay 1000 bucks to visit your doctor. People seem to forget that health care is social spending.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
My education is in the trades. Not some fluffy impractical bullshit. Yes I read. Perhaps not the same liberal fantasy editorials that you feed on.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization Though I have the utmost respect for "the trades" since they continue to be a cornerstone of world society, I can't help but be insulted by the fact that academic pursuits are impractical in your mind or that I am purely liberal. I consider myself a social conservative, for the most part. And keep in mind that the people who are educated in impractical bullshit create the plans you work from, run the nation that keeps you safe, and run the companies that employ you.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
While working in the oil patch Premier Ed Stelmach raised corporate tax levels and chased shallow gas out of the province. This was a very shitty deal. He realized this and lowered corporate tax levels. This breathed new life into the drilling sector. Its slowly coming back to life. This is a good thing.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization Selective tax breaks or tax credits may be a better solution than widespread change that hurts the nation overall. Folks working in Alberta, in the midst of oil money that is ultimately temporary, seem to forget that the rest of the nation exists and has concerns about massive ecological upheaval and fiscal irresponsibility.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
Don't you think Ontarios manufacturing could use a tax break in a desperate economy? But, in the midst of recession the Liberal party would hike the tax rate to "previous levels." This would absolutely, positively choke the lifeblood out of an already struggling economy. The hell with Ignatieff, he's a complete moron.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization Ontario was screwed by provincial leaders. The tax breaks have been for oil, banks, and car manufacturers (who, I might add, just pulled two plants out of the province following two previous rounds of tax breaks) all of whom haven't hired new employees or even maintained the existing employee base. Tax breaks have not improved employment numbers.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
Allowing corporate tax breaks stimulates the economy from the top down. Have seen it happen. Have also seen corporate tax hikes absolutely choke an economy. Didn't read it in a book. Didn't study it in school. Its just plain good economic policy, which Harper supports, and I support, having lived through those conditions. Fact.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization So where have you seen this happen? If you didn't read it or study it, how can you suggest it makes sense or is "good economic policy?"
sohoboriker 10 months ago
The seal hunt is the least of our worries. I'm with the Newfies on this one, it's no big deal. Harper should be skinned alive? According to your set of values, you should be hung for treason.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
The deficite is lower under Harper. Tax hikes would stall economic recovery, which both the liberal and ndp parties support.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization The DEFICIT has grown by 54-billion dollars under Stephen Harper. How can you take a 36-billion dollar surplus from a previous Conservative government, add another 18-billion dollars from the following Liberal government...and piss it away as well as 54-billion dollars you don't even have? Where do you get your "facts?" And it isn't tax HIKES. It is maintenance of tax levels at the rate that existed before Harper started slashing every source of revenue.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
Harper is a good economist.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
Harper has a masters in economics and used to work for big oil in the west. Hes not a right wing extremist descended from aristocrats. Hes just a guy trying to fix the economy in the best way he knows how based on his experience. The NDP would bankrupt this country. Ignatieff sounds like a parrot "guns, jails, and jets" , "guns, jails, and jets"...."bawwwk". "family pack", "family pack"....."bawwwk". Meanwhile his economic plan is lousy.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization And yet Harper totally ignored a global recession, is wasting our money in record amounts, oversaw the wrongful arrest of a record number of Canadians, has directly attacked womens and gay rights, and has repeatedly attacked people who even potentially supporting other parties.
Besides, Conservatives have historically been terrible with the economy. Read real books, not talking points.
BoredomCorner 10 months ago
Harper is a right wing extremist. Tell your neighbors! He will ruin us. He's deliberately spending us into massive debt, to buy fighter jets THAT DON'T HAVE DOUBLE ENGINES, SO THEY'RE NOT MUCH USE FLYING OVER THE ARCTIC. No other country wants the F-35's. And he wants to put pot smokers in jail, in new prisons. Eighteen months for possession. There are 3 million pot smokers in Canada. Harper will jail us, then say, gosh--no money left for universal health care. Harper is bad news for Canada.
Ive503 10 months ago 5
yes WHATS THAT, UNDERSTAND
rumbolt123 10 months ago
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denverhoo 10 months ago
@denverhoo The fact that you use the word "retarded" tells me exactly how uneducated you are. Sadly this is typical of the Conservative voter base in nations around the world. You misspell commercial twice. You misspell won't. You don't use capital letters. And your "phrases" are incomplete "thoughts" at best. I choose to avoid a response to anything you have to say other than to point out you didn't really say anything at all.
sohoboriker 10 months ago 3
now my friend hole on to your selve LOL don,t get foolish i worked since the age of 13 fished and farmed the to hardest fuckin jobs in the world and i lreaned at a young age that any fool can make money but it takes someone to save it don,t it i know about their lies i lived with it understand their fuckin draggers cleaned up our fish and the fools that didn,t look out for BSE put us out of the cattle industry I KNOW like i said i lived their lies but i guess his better BETTER THAN NOTHING LOL
rumbolt123 10 months ago
@rumbolt123 Um. What?
sohoboriker 10 months ago 2
@rumbolt123 HARPER NEEDS TO BE CLUBBED ANS SKINNED ALIVE AS HE ALLOWS THE LITTLE SEALS TO BE HE IS POCKETING THE EXTRA CASH HE IS A SICK SICK MAN
petuniamighty 10 months ago
This is stupid, Either way we're all going to get fucked with more money out of our pay checks. Regardless,Every time harper shits the bed, Gas prices go up 9 cents
OffTrack7593385 10 months ago
may 2nd i vote, and if harper government win a majority, i fucking go to europe. Fuck this ideological maniac! I dare him to taint our great reputation around the world!
ilikeshred 10 months ago 3
This is just vague generic lambasting. You say he's awful for the country but give no hard evidence.
AEDGRD 10 months ago
Really?
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@AEDGRD Actually, I offer the counterpoint to his attacks on Ignatieff but I'm happy to offer you some specific reasons why he'll continue to clawback Canadian values in favour of the Americanization ideology he preached as head of the National Citizens Coalition. Mulroney's (PC) $38 billion deficit of 93 was turned into Martin's (Lib) surplus of $16 billion by 2006. Harper (CPC) has produced a record $54 billion deficit in two years. His economic success claims stem from Martin's regulation.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@AEDGRD There's also Harper's unconditional $75 billion bank bailout that requires no new regulation. The banks get money for their mistakes & have no responsibility to prevent them in the future. Harper is introducing tax cuts that will create a $5.6 billion revenue cut for Canadian social programs that benefit all citizens. He's screwed our rep internationally backing out of Kyoto commitments. Other nations walked out on his speeches at the UN. Only happened to Iran & Libya in recent years.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@AEDGRD His admin supported military torture with the loophole of handing detainees to other governments knowing it will happen. He wants to destroy the long-gun registry but law enforcement officials say it has saved lives & solved crimes. Crime rates are down & the population is aging but Harper chooses new prisons over more support for the baby boomers about to overtax our existing health care system. His priorities are totally warped. But he can give his buddies construction contracts. So...
sohoboriker 10 months ago 2
@sohoboriker Interesting then, that Ignatieff is the only party leader on record supporting internationally recognized torture and waterboarding. Of course this was while Ignatieff was living for his decades in the U.S. and the same time when Ignatieff was saying on the public record that he loved his country (America), and that he was disgusted by Canada. Oh, by the way, Ignatieff's family was a very wealthy group of aristrocrats, Iggy is an actual Count, who stole money from the Russians
slyder25 10 months ago
@slyder25 He supported the military's interrogation of detainees and, like the vast majority of Americans, did not know torture was being used. He didn't live in the U.S. for "decades." Yes, he said he loved the nation that employed him. I would too. He said he was disgusted by HARPER'S Canada. EVERY political leader feels that way right now, as well as the vast majority of leaders internationally.
sohoboriker 10 months ago 2
@slyder25 His FAMILY was descended from aristocrats. His father was wealthy by inheritance & escaped the Communist Revolution with his family. He managed to stash money outside the country when Stalin's regime came to power. LOTS of families fled Russia during the Revolution because if you weren't WITH the government & followed their ideology you were persecuted as an enemy of the state. Learn your history & read something OTHER than Harper's propaganda. PRETEND you have a mind of your own.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@AEDGRD I think I've offered enough "hard evidence" for my stance against Harper. You sound far from undecided. I gather you simply wanted to paint your comments as being unbiased when you're simply finding ways to criticize this vid. Feel free to offer counterpoint. The vid is meant to inspire debate. I know I won't vote Conservative while Harper is in office. I made the mistake of supporting him in 2006. Never again. I am still torn on Green, NDP, or Liberal at this point. At least I'm honest.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@AEDGRD shit harper did . ca
fueldrop 10 months ago
a@AEDGRD Evidently you like his authoritarian style of government. This is far from "generic lambasting" as you choose to put it. So like the video says, spend 250 hours on the web as I have and you will find out more disgusting things about Harper than you will ever want to know. Start with his Northern Foundation, white supremest Nazi group He's a control freak like no other..
The1cocobolo 10 months ago
I'm not voting Lib or Cons.. but I have to say.. there isn't 1 fact in this whole video.
AEDGRD 10 months ago
@AEDGRD No facts? Really? Or do you just disagree with my interpretation of Harper's attacks?
sohoboriker 10 months ago
If I had my way Mr Rob Ford would drive my country :p
Artarous 10 months ago
@Artarous Bahahahahaha! Now I KNOW your opinions are based on emotion. Ford's a tool.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
Soft, soothing voice. Comfortably bias arguement. Iggy was "forced" to work in the US. Cool canadian celebrities live abroad. Iggy rolls up his sleeves and unbuttons his blue collar, therefore he is relevant to the working man. You're right, this is a "reasonable, factual commentary" (liberal add). What was I thinking. Thank you, I've seen the light.
Vindicatorization 10 months ago
@Vindicatorization LOL Thanks for the compliment on my voice. I guess I need to lay it all out here. I voted Conservative in 2006. I contributed to getting Harper into office. And all of his promises have been broken or twisted into something I can no longer support. I am still undecided. I simply used the Ignatieff attack ads as fodder to point out how Harper continues to manipulate the Conservative message through the media.
sohoboriker 10 months ago 2
this is bull shit out together by some lib loving sucker fish, enjoy the bs as it rains down upon you.
Artarous 10 months ago
@Artarous LOL I love that you assume I have chosen who I will vote for in the election. I just know that I will no longer tolerate a dick-tator. He's a pompous blowhard who will lie to the public to get his personal agenda across. If you support him that's fine. Whatever your reasons, I assume they are entirely opinion-based rather than being based upon sound logic.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@sohoboriker come here I will give you a hug. There are 3 lvls of govern 1 your mayor he takes care of ur comfort and city, 2 ur province watches over money spent and jobs etc. 3 big wig. He/she needs to keep us secure and making money. Protect us and appear serious and a little mean. He has lead us through the hard times. are you hungry? Are you on the street? times are tough I know.
Artarous 10 months ago
@Artarous My friend, I am VERY well-informed on each level of government. Municipal government takes care of some facets of the local community. The province shares responsibility on that, and infrastructure is a shared responsibility of all three levels. But enough of clarifying your explanation. I am not hungry because I work two jobs. I am not on the street because I work two jobs. Harper's only job has been to hide spending and legislation from the people who put him in office.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@Artarous As always, Harper supporters have nothing reasonable or quasi-intelligent to say. This is a reasonable, factual commentary on Harper's and Ignatieff's points of view and you wouldn't recognize it as such if it jumped up and bit you. If you can't argue more effectively than calling names, you don't deserve an opinion.
Dimcle 10 months ago
@Dimcle come here I will give you a hug. There are 3 lvls of govern 1 your mayor he takes care of ur comfort and city, 2 ur province watches over money spent and jobs etc. 3 big wig. He/she needs to keep us secure and making money. Protect us and appear serious and a little mean. He has lead us through the hard times. are you hungry? Are you on the street? times are tough I know.
Artarous 10 months ago
@Artarous He led us through the hard times? Now I know that you haven't done your homework. When he was the Opposition Leader, Harper wanted to deregulate our financial institutions. In other words, he wanted loose rules just like in the U.S. The Liberals didn't let it happen. Look it up - the only reason that Canada has done so much better, economically, than most of the other countries IS BECAUSE OF OUR STRICT BANKING REGULATIONS. Harper had nothing to do with it. Learn, junior.
Dimcle 10 months ago
thats sure enough there not worth the money thats payed for them but i guess maybe 40 percent of whats payed is the money to pay carpenters to build it see if u build your own thats not there is it i was told here a house thats 200 thousand with vineal on it , if its covered with spruce wood its 300 thousand i guess the cost to put the wood on it is more time for carpenters they gotta get payed to
rumbolt123 10 months ago
theres no way that there can be a pay off if the house is not payed for can,t happen, if it do, its not done right thats the trouble isn,t it i guess theres only 3 ways to do anything the right way the wrong way and your own way the last 2 ways is wrong right so i guess it won,t work will it LOL
rumbolt123 10 months ago
@rumbolt123 Oh. OK I see what you're getting at now. Yes, I totally agree. Many Newfoundlanders certainly have it right in that respect. Building your own house as you can afford the construction costs is certainly a smarter idea. Sadly, many Canadians don't live in areas with the same kind of community support that exists in many areas of the Rock.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
itslike a goverment job okay the man is payed at the end of the week with tax payers money but as a fisherman if i take a fish from the ocean and sent it over seas to another country thats a new dollar in our hands right that money wasn,t there before i was payed right so whats good for our country LOL
rumbolt123 10 months ago
its like folks giving their plastic to the kid to buy something thats false money not real money isn,t it that won,t work needer LOL
rumbolt123 10 months ago
and put our banks behind or build it on our own what your saying is that its okay for the bank to wait for money their not a 100 percent sure of getting that won,t work LOL they need money to work right
rumbolt123 10 months ago
@rumbolt123 Though I agree with your statement on credit and loans, there is still sensible business to be had through interest being accumulated on the balance. So you are essentially paying the bank to buy a house for you with the agreement that you will pay them for that service while also reimbursing them for the loan. So on the bank's end, it is new money. It is the fact that you ultimately pay more than what the house is worth to purchase it that becomes troublesome.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
yea its a pay off but how if the people that buy it don,t pay for it LOL like i said wood concrete and plastic is no good to a bank and who owns the banks where the canadain money is kept THE GOVERMENT isn,t it, the bank sells the house but to who ,will the next guy pay for it see here in newfoundland most all homes are payed for while being build i build mind took 6 or 7 years when i walked in i owned it and the bank didn,t have no say so is it better to take a loan for 30 years
rumbolt123 10 months ago
sittin on the ground but no one can carry that to the bank so the bank got that money gone can,t run on that LOL but if you build your home on your own the money is still on the move RIGHT LOL its not left sittin on the ground RIGHT LOL
rumbolt123 10 months ago
its only my opinion but when it come to the federal goverment now i think they done fine with what mr harper had placed in his hands to work with the way he put it here was the right way wheir all canadains here and he,ll do his best now heres something to think about if 2 young folks buys a new home and their background is not frimly known the bank owns the house and they can,t pay for it what happens BANKS cannot work on wood and concrete LOL and if they walk out the money is where
rumbolt123 10 months ago
@rumbolt123 It may be the grammar but some of your argument appears to be missing. If a bank invests in a mortgage it is because there is a pay off for them. Harper has nothing to do with it. It is the bank looking at a profit margin. And if the consumer defaults on the mortgage the bank sells the house and gain all of the profit plus any money paid down on the mortgage.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
Very well done! What resonnates with me is your emphasis on the consideration of ideas. Those I do know who support Harper seem to lack that thoughtfulness to think ideas through. It's all about acting before thinking, scream about impressive sounding things and not actually use reason or data. The tough on crime stance, unsubstantiated by actual evidence, is one example of screaming for more incarceration despite the fact the outcome of these stances result in increased crime rates.
solidaridadglobal 10 months ago
@solidaridadglobal There is also the fact that our system of incarceration has been proven not to achieve its own goals - that of punishment in the technical sense of the word. It removes people from society in the short term and never really reintegrates these people upon their release. There is never really a chance for criminals to "go straight" because the primary issue which precipitated the crime has not been addressed meaningfully.
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@solidaridadglobal And thanks!
sohoboriker 10 months ago
@solidaridadglobal
It's interesting that across Canada we are in need of public prosecutors and judges, but the Harper government would rather build prisons to hold people than to hire or appoint more judges and lawyers. People can languish in prison awaiting trials for months and then be released with the charges dropped. Is that what is intended to continue as a trend by Harper and his neo-cons. This prison industry can be very lucrative for some.
zizimycat 10 months ago
Harper makes mistakes, ALL CANDIDATES MAKE MISTAKES and some ideas become stupid idea... WE LEARN FROM THEM. But this calling for elections when ever the government feels like crying because their party lost is getting out of control you wasting Canadian tax dollars and I THINK A RULE NEED TO BE PUT IN EFFECT THAT THIS HAS TO STOP AND A CANDIDATE IS TO FULL FILL HIS TERM UNTIL ITS FINISHED... ENOUGH OF THE GAMES..... STOPPPP
Timsters101 10 months ago
I think it is ironic that you are defending a candidate who promised to impose terms for leaders and has failed to do so. Your problem is essentially another broken promise by Harper.
sohoboriker 10 months ago 3
@sohoboriker Harper isn't my problem its the calling of elections none stop, I agree with the current issues its the fact that they can never figure out a way they just rush to elections and things go down hill.
Timsters101 10 months ago