Bayonet Charge

[dirtybannana723]

And to all that did respond to my comment your still wrong

[dirtybannana723]

I love how i responded to this vid likd almort a yr ago and pple are just starting to respond to my comment.......do they think i honestly care

[dave1949a1]

British soldiers are still using the bayonet to this very day in Afganistan , what else have you got when your mag is empty?

God bless the western soldiers of Democracy.

[nick21sammy]

baby fail

[SoulofFriends]

shut up kid

[puffin51]

The statistics from the First World War are telling. According to British, French and German field hospital statistics, only 2% of wounds treated were caused by the bayonet, and some of those were from accidents.

Sure, odd things happen. But it's not the way to bet.

[Lepper36]

I believe the British had a modern day bayonet charge against an insurgent force in Iraq. Caught them off guard because no one this day and age would expect a bayonet charge.

[mwzzhang]

wtf is rifleman (yes it says 2/95 on the greenjacket's canteen) charging?

[skemjames]

@mwzzhang rifles did charge

[mwzzhang]

@skemjames they usually don't....

[TomHartill]

@mwzzhang - After the rifles - and other light infantry - finished skirmishing in front of the main line, they would pull back and join the flanks of the main line.

[israelforreal]

Charge 6 feet !

[EnigmaHood]

@israelforreal Lmao, wasn't much of a charge was it

[israelforreal]

I felt a little cheated

[pilgrim008]

Interestingly the amount of people killed by bayonets is minimal - 1% or less, it is more of a psychological weapon both on the part of the enemy morale and the mental preparation of the man using it. Not withstanding that it could be used as a last resort and that the Infantry should prepare them before closing with the enemy.

[luftwaffe789456123]

Bayonet Charge put fear into the enemy and lower their morale,thats how it works.

[fanfuckingtasticity]

hey this is the fucking british battalion that kicked our asses in quebec at abraham plain >:C

[FangRiide]

Baby crying in Background. FTW.

[dirtybannana723]

you guys are all wrong....... i do revolutionary war reenacting and the british at the time were the most disciplined army in the world. they fix bayonets to push the enemy off the battlefield because back then to win the battle is to take the field not kill the enemy.

[Germanboy567]

Who the fuck brought a crying baby? Lol

[TheNeonTide]

@Germanboy567 sorry that was me, it got stuck on my bayonet somehow

[Germanboy567]

@TheNeonTide

LOL

[brendan51287]

PLUS, because I know someone will come on here sayin mass charges are not used any more or in the twentieth century, I would like to point out in Iraq, the British used a very effective charge and broke Iraqi resistance, in the falklands, they where ordered to fix bayonets, and cleared the argentinians. It is not just the Brits though. the Americans still use them. There is a reason they give you bayonet training. Because we still use ut. Not as commonly, but we do use it.

[brendan51287]

What a load of B*****Ks here! A bayonet charge is not just when you run out of ammo, or when they reload...there is a reason we still use the thing. There is very few things better to put the fear up someone, than a length of cold sharp steel. It is used in FIBUA, in trench work, and back then to follow through. And, used correctly, as wellington proved, one volley followed by a charge could, and usually did, break an opponent. Its not last resort, its method for breakng enemies.

[Simo84844]

A calm formation charge like that, could easy make a enemy weavering line to rout. Think about it, alot of redcoats just walking towards you, ignoreing the people around them dieing. I would run ;D

[paganist123]

not much of bloodthirty raw that wouldnt even scare a frenchmen XD

[fp470]

Just a note to all, these battles were not fought like this for bravado like many think but as a necessity. Those guns are slow to reload and innaccurate but like the pike before them, is devastating in large numbers close packed together. It was not about bravery and the lethality rate of the battles was lower- contrary to video games and 'The Patriot' might tell you.

[rockhuddy]

Obviously war is bad for the regular people on both sides, but this is much more romantic than murdering civilians from 10,000 feet.

[TuKKyUniversitario]

That style of fighting its stupid. why just don't flank the fucking enemy and kill then whith heavy fire?

[DeanoOwnb]

Because in those days they wanted to prove they weren't pussys like now, we just fly over and let a bomb down, but in those days it was man to man like it should be

[hietala8]

There is still man to man battles. But you are weary right about the fact that today its mostly just bomb them from the skies.

Also some peopule might think these old tactics where dumb but realy? If take these old tactics against the new ones where we just bomb the crap out of the enemy capital killing nothing else then civilans...your gona see that the tactics back then where a allot better.

[Briselance]

@hietala8

"your gona see that the tactics back then where a allot better"

Yeah, right. Those old-timer tactics are a lot better ... if you want to be chopped down by machinegun fire, blown to tiny bits by heavy shells and look like a real donkey.

[3only3]

ye ,man to man but you forget that in those battles only 10% died on the battlefield the other 90 died cruel tents by the lack of medical care

[refuckulate420]

Depending on the battle could be more then 10%

[TJ5897]

no now we are smart and if you think we are pussies then why did knights use shields to stop the arrows

[ShawnC15]

@DeanoOwnb I agree...18th century tactics is how wars should be fought!

[Briselance]

@DeanoOwnb

"Like it should be"

Well, some generals ordred this kind of "man to man" tactics against walls of barbed-wires, machine-guns and field guns.

Result : Worst tactic ever. Complete failure.

The kind of tactics used in the vid was good for it's time, with the firearms of that time. And it's been like one century at least since we left that time.

Tactics have to evolve with the military technology. If one refuses to use technology in modern warfare, (s)he's a complete moron.

[megasayajinsongoku99]

@Briselance indeed evolution is the key of human civilisation..

[Arc9er]

@DeanoOwnb

Ever heard the term "over the top"?

They did this very thing and most of the time they'd all end up dead.

[dirtybannana723]

@DeanoOwnb no idiot in those days to win the battle was to push the enemy off the field not kill them. so the british use that tactic efficiently and effectively. they did need to prove anything because AT THE TIME they were the most feared army in the world

[0v3rp0w3r]

@dirtybannana723 actually,until 1815,the French were the most feared army in the world,at the time of bayonets. Also...the French Old Guard was the most feared army group at that time. The British had the most feared navy however.

[boss180888]

@dirtybannana723 in the early 19th century:

1- napoleon's grande armée

2- russian army

3- austrian army

4- prussian army

5- british army

this is the TRUE list of strenghts in that period(early 19th century). the only changes were an improvement of the prussian/german army in that late century, the british were never "the most feared" army. best navy no doubt, but lousy army...

[Wastedgrunt]

@dirtybannana723 most feared army my ass

[Mikuruification]

@dirtybannana723

The British fought polite war

[Roofedhobo]

@no, they just didnt have our technology. + we try not to pointlessly waste brave soldiers lives.

[totalwarruler]

@DeanoOwnb Because the best way to win a war is to stand in a feild? :s war isn't about being a "pussy" it's about winning. call me a pussy and ill fly over and blow the fuck outa ya.

[WolfytheWolf5667]

@totalwarruler

noticing your really...pathetic post, you're a american, no?

Well, you bomb us, we'll nuke you. because 1. you won't expect it, and 2. 1 nuke could destroy you. the white house can't survive such a thing, nor can Obama...

[totalwarruler]

@WolfytheWolf5667 No I am sorry I am not americanso ya. And i wasnt threatening you i was making a point.\

[13airforce]

@WolfytheWolf5667 I can't say nuking the US would be sound military doctrine

[higuma75]

@WolfytheWolf5667 You're a Brit. The Brits have been castrated. You're Euro-weenies. Euro-peons. The only thing you can do is surrender. And nuke with what? You don't have the range, stupid.

[WolfytheWolf5667]

@higuma75

Um, no, we're better than Europe, seeing as we own the Commonwealth with over 1.2 billion people, and Europe is under threat from a bunch of damn Russies.

US? SURRENDER? You have us mixed-up with the French!

[Azog150]

@higuma75

Vanguard class subs with Trident nukes. They can hit anywhere on earth so get your facts straight.

[higuma75]

@totalwarruler Correct. The tactics back then were forced on the troops and leaders by the technology.

[sgtCbb]

@DeanoOwnb Man to man is with sword. .. 

[Allyoucandie]

@DeanoOwnb roman+medieval time was man to man... your skill with weapon and some luck decide if you were going to survive the fight or not... musket time is like 40% melee... the rest is line fire

[higuma75]

@DeanoOwnb Real 1vs1 you'd most likely piss yourself. War is not about honor or "man to man" BS. It's about winning. You want to sneak up on your enemy from behind and whack him over the head. That's how it is. If I can bomb the enemy into submission with my planes, why risk the lives of my infantry? To be manly?

You fucking civilian.

[xXMonteCristoXx]

@higuma75 thats how the civil war, the napoleonic wars and the american revolutionary war was fought....man against man and lots of wet pants :) there were no bombs, just you, your empty musket and a line of cold steel bayonets and rifles pointed at you, and the only way you can hope to go home, wounded at the best, it to charge the person closest to you and hope you dont get skewered

[Azog150]

@xXMonteCristoXx

Actually, I think most casualties were caused by artillery and by cavalry cutting down those who were running away. Less then 4% of casualties were caused by bayonet as, more often then not, during a bayonet charge one side would run away (Which was the purpose of a bayonet charge- to get a disorganised and undiciplined enemy to flee)

If thinks did actually dissolve into melee, then more often then not things had gone wrong...

[xXMonteCristoXx]

@DeanoOwnb still pretty darn stupid to march into an enemy line of fire....isnt that why they still had cavalry back then? so that someone better suited to a charge can do the job for you?

[Azog150]

@DeanoOwnb

Actually, during the Napoleonic Wars only about 4% of casualties (If that) were caused by bayonets. The aim of a bayonet charge wasn't to actually engage the enemy, but to get him to run away- and more often then not thats what would happen, particularly in the previous volleys were effective. Thats still the case I believe.

[oarfrost]

@Azog150 "The aim of a bayonet charge wasn't to actually engage the enemy, but to get him to run away"

That is right. Legend has it that the English got the idea from the Scots. The Highlanders main battle tactic was the mad charge across the heather, which was more or less unstopable by the usual rolling volley fire of the day. So the English came up with the idea of waiting until the enemy were about 70 yards and then having the whole regiment blaze away, Even the Scots slowed down at this

[oarfrost]

@oarfrost whereupon the English and their Lowland allies charged and drove the disheartened Highlanders off at the point of the bayonet.

[coolfundylan]

@DeanoOwnb Well what about cannons? They used those back in the day of "Men vs Men"? And (I could be mistaken) I'm pretty sure soldiers are still issued bayonets.

[wallieburger]

@DeanoOwnb ur calling todays soldiers pussys??

just because technology changes doesnt means the soldiers do

[STARD00R]

@wallieburger they hesitate to kill, or/and get PTSD afterward, while soldiers from the past rip off your guts wide open in cqb

yes, our soldiers are pussies

[wallieburger]

@STARD00R really? im joining the marines and know alot of them, some that HAVE killed, and believe me they wouldent hesitate and would much rather stab you than shoot you (one guy carried brass knuckles with him he wanted to use them so bad). I bet you couldent do what they do everyday mr. internet tough guy.

[DomokomoNeyo]

@STARD00R come say that to my face...

[DonMeaker]

@STARD00R I will point out that Audie Murphy had PTSD. 300 days of combat in a unit that had 300% casualties. I recommend two of his movies. "The Red Badge of Courage" and "To Hell and Back", the latter with him staring as himself is probably the most authentic movie ever made.

C

[adobo777]

@DeanoOwnb Yeah well they certainly proved they were men, too bad they lost a wealthy colony in the Americas and got shot up to bits by people hiding in the bushes whilst doing so.

[FightingSpirit86]

@DeanoOwnb

Yeah and the officers used the 'men' as pawns, then when they fell their own men just trampled over them to replace the ranks. That was when war was waged by 'gentlemen' people who thought themselves above the soldiers who were spilling their guts for bullshit.

[ianmlees]

@FightingSpirit86 I remember as a young man watching the helicopters take off from the roof of the US embassy in Saigon while thousands of desperate Vietnamese tried to find a way out as the communists came in as the American forces fell back and escaped. US marines held them all back at gun point while the Americans were spirited out to the carriers offshore. Semper Fi. How's your fighting spirit?

[rokema2782]

@DeanoOwnb

Standing in line infront of eachother isn't really man to man

[THthefirst]

@DeanoOwnb or maybe it was that airplanes hadn't actually been invented in the nineteenth century?

[SeanMcBong]

@DeanoOwnb You're fucking dumb.

[MrFreddieBurgoyne]

@DeanoOwnb So you're saying modern soldiers are pussies for not bayonet charging enemies who have automatic rifles and rpg's? I think there's an obvious reason why they don't do that anymore.

[DiscothecaImperialis]

@MrFreddieBurgoyne in 'Battle of the Bulge' (according to the docu i've watched) it seems that Bayonet charge can still have psycho impact. the docu said that a squad of american riflemen did bayonet charge german MG42 positions and it really works! americans suffered VERY few casaulties while german guncrew got panicked.

it might works today when everyone fights with automatic weapons.

[MrFreddieBurgoyne]

@DiscothecaImperialis No, it doesn't work today. That's exactly what they did in WW1 and look what happened there. Not really a good idea.

[calderon134]

@DeanoOwnb you were more of a man when you had to fight with swords and shields ;].

[jacarradicefrench]

@DeanoOwnb - You Sir, are a wet fish. It was military tactics and the most efficient method to conduct warfare. With slow loading weaponry and pitched battle as a traditional view to claim victory over the enemy, these standing armies were the preferred tactics... not simply because they were 'brave' or 'courageous'. Many men deserted when they came to the realisation that they were putting their head on a block.

[iansourdeau]

@DeanoOwnb

And you prolly never serverd yourself?

Big mouth behind the PC...

[hannibalcaesar3]

@DeanoOwnb

"They wanted to prove they weren't pussys.."

No they fought that way because that's how you had to with the era's technology. You would have obviously be one of those pricks who sit on their ass while people at the front die in the thousands. Tell your quote to a modern veterans and see who the pussy is after the beatdown.

[bbathtub101]

@TuKKyUniversitario flanking was used but often that wasnt the best way to fight the enemy

[2ndpadrummer]

because theyre trying to keep the enemy from flanking them?

[IalexxaI]

the most anyone could ever fire and reload their musket was 3 times in 1 minute, so when the enemy is charging at you with 4 inch bayonets while your trying to reload, you can image how that will go..

[EnergyDog23]

Why the fuck ppl keep bringing theyre babies to everywhere, they fucking ruin everything by crying...

[aplayaz2000]

reminds me of empire total war

[bassdrumguitarplayer]

just imagine. 1 company of about 30 men who can shoot straight could put an end to that bayonet charge in a matter of seconds

[Vash002]

@bassdrumguitarplayer if the captain of that company was stupid enough to charge into 30 men who have loaded guns to bear.

[bassdrumguitarplayer]

hey Robert E. Lee was stupid enough to lead a head on charge through open ground towards a defensive wall with thousands of guns behind it. and so was General Hancock at Fredericksburg. not all military leaders make the best judgment calls during battle....

[Vash002]

Lee thought that after his attacks on the flanks of the Union line that they would of put the majority of their strength on the flanks. he thought there was only a few tired troops in the center. he was wrong of course but he didnt know he was wrong.

[bassdrumguitarplayer]

its also said that he suffered a mild stroke. either way he was a good general. but he also could have listened to General Longstreets concerns about the charge to begin with. He also couldve scouted it out a little better when J.E.B Stuart arrived. but instead he put him immediately into action without knowing the exact strengths of Hancock's division behind the wall in the center of the line

[ViccardXViccc]

@bassdrumguitarplayer It wasn´t Hancock who orderd the charge at fredericksburg, but Burnside

[bassdrumguitarplayer]

I was talking about Gettysburg. Hancock was behind the wall at Gettysburg. Burnside ordered Hancock to lead the attack at Fredricksburg. if im correct. bare with me if im not though. im only human

[ViccardXViccc]

i just mean, that Hancock just was following orders. just saying ;)

[2ndpadrummer]

hancock didnt choose to fight at fredricksburg, he actually regreted fighting there b4 the battle even happend. he was basically forced to follow his supreme commander general burnside whos plan wuz to wait for pontoon bridges to arrive and not have men occupying the town so they could get a foothold on st. maries heights and other good defensive positons (which was hancocks plan) instead he waited and by that time the army of northern virgina arrived to defend thus the death of many brave men

[rebpvt1864]

@bassdrumguitarplayer. lee never personally lead any charges...read a god damn book.

[bassdrumguitarplayer]

he leads the army as a whole through his orders from his mouth. i understand that he wasnt on the lines during the charge. I never once said that he personally was with his men during the charge

[rebpvt1864]

@bassdrumguitarplayer

HaHa! oh alright man. my bad.

[CaptainCool07]

its not a matter if the people could shoot straight. The guns were inaccurate at the time.

[bassdrumguitarplayer]

when i say shoot straight i mean they should know what to expect from their gun. whether they should shoot a little higher, lower, farther to the side. whatever. after some time shooting the same rifle you get a hang of how accurate or inaccurate it is and you can compensate for it (most of the time)

[garneray]

enfoirés de rosbifs !

[kamikazeboy123]

warfare changed alot since late 1800.

[GameCenter2009]

They are pretty low on suplie of men if this was real lol.

[Chicken10843]

Either that or they are the elite of the elite.

[azzaaaron17]

Sorry but that was a bit of a short lived bayonet charge, Still where do I sign up?

[allnippon1051]

volly fire present ,fire , Charge Bayonet

[NathanAndrewLonsdale]

REAL LIFE BATTLE GROUNDS 2!

[monkey6321]

@NathanAndrewLonsdale

Except this doesn't have crazy 12 year olds, people firing out of volley, people going out of line, and TKing assholes LOL

[giovanigiu]

age of empires 3 !!!

[Svante8D]

no...

[giovanigiu]

ya i know

hahahaha

[skinnymason]

The thin red line

[matt10999999e]

no drum rolls?

[gandy12907]

banzai charges are generally more aggressive than bayonet charges simply because it is a last resort and they are expecting to die so have nothing to lose..

[d00lim]

just play battle grounds 2...

[Blargman57]

this is more fun, cause you actually do it, you FUCKING n00B!

[jurdao14785]

banzai charge is way better

[Augments]

Banzai charges are only meant as a last resort and the persons doing the banzai always do it to die, a bayonet charge is usually used to cut up disorganised groups.

[kumagamesclan]

@Augments and your meant to do it when you run out of ammo or you hear the enemy reloading