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  • May be an old vid but it still holds true. Way too many people (including myself at times) spend way too much energy on the hardware side of things when really you need to get as much range time as possible to keep your skills up. Have a reliable gun and practice!

  • I mentioned this of the Firing line forum and them sissy ass SOB's went ape shit and banned me. Bunch of weak ass rich spoiled SOB's who think an AR is all there is in the world.

  • let me put my ears on

  • Mr. Hickok45, I often reference this vid when I am talking shooting topics with my shooting aquaintances. Your thoughts on accuracy are given in a very even handed, reality based way and are refreshing. Kudos, sir. As an aside, I have seen many of your instructional vids for new shooters. I'd like to see you do a vid giving a good explaination of DA, SA, DA/SA DAO, etc. and good, bad and ugly of each. Maybe you have done one but I have not found it yet. Keep educating and informing!

  • I just bought a Kimber Classic LE .45 1911 and a Colts Commander 80 series .45 are these good pistols?

  • Can you go on the TV show Top Shot? i am possitive you would win

  • Generally I would agree with you, but recently I had an experience where a popular brand of 9mm ammo was tumbling out of one of my pistols. In that case, I was much more accurate with another pistol that it didn't tumble out of!

  • I agree with accuracy being dependent on the shooter. I'm guilty myself saying one gun seems more accurate than the other; but my buddy could shoot it and have completely different results. The only way i could see one firearm being more accurate over another, is if there's a defect in the firearm which the shooter has no control over that causes him/ her to miss. Such as a pitted bore, bent barrel, whatever. Anyways, glad you made that comment; hopefully i'll be more "accurate" using the term.

  • All well built, properly constructed firearms have the ability to be perfectly accurate on the first shot. Guns usually don't just decide to mess with you and shoot sideways, so accuracy almost always comes down to the shooter.

  • Who is he?

  • TOP SHOT, TOP SHOT, TOP SHOT. You really need too!

  • when i use "ACCURACY" i usually mean =if i was gonna shoot at some one, 50-60 yards away,will i hit them before they hit me. Lol

  • aren't you a little young to be playing with guns!!!??? HAHAHAHA just kidding, your videos are great!

  • When I was in the infantry back in the 60s, the guys issued .45s (M1911) all complained about how inaccurate the old warhorse was and how you couldn't hit anything with one.

    The company armorer took half a dozen .45s at random from the armory and fired them all from a rest at the standard pistol target at 25 yards.

    All stayed in the "black" without any trouble.

    Generally, it's not the gun...

  • @Bikewer Amen!

  • @Bikewer army or marines im enlisting soon in either marine infantry or army and try to get into Airborne infantry

  • Man, you can shoot! Those are some long pistol shots. I agree that you should try to get on Top Shot.

  • A gun, rather than the person, can be accurate or inaccurate based on groupings and how close the shots are to each other on a target.

  • Love this video! The point you made pretty much sums it all up! Machines that we have made nowadays are going to be more accurate than any human hand that will hold them, unless there is some kind of flaw or defect in workmanship!

  • i never really found out the difference between rimfire and centerfire firearms, can someone help?

  • @GoldenEagle520 hickok45 has a video on that, it's real helpful

  • Well said! My experience bears out all of what you said. I think the term "shootability" is more appropriate, and that is entirely subjective to the indiviual shooter. I think one of the most determining factors of shootability is user confidence in the chosen gun. I believe in benching a gun to find its favorite ammo and to set the sights, but once that's done, its all about shootability and practice. Thanks again.

  • Good points!!

  • well said

  • I think somebody should hunt down the next person who grabs a dictionary and gives us the definition of "accuracy" and "precision." Then burn his dictionary! We all know what 99.9% of people are referring to when they talk about a gun's accuracy, which is what the video is about, of course. Most people have no problem understanding this simple fact. :-)

  • @hickok45

    But, what if the person asking has 4 Olympic Gold Medals ?

    Would you still burn his dictionary ?

  • @hickok45 Hahahaha very true, but for most of us it's not a dictionary thing, they DRILL that into you in introductory chemistry in college, and if you take analytical chemistry after that, it only gets worse :)

  • I did the Ashwourth online gunsmithing school. And there is a hole chapter on intrinsick accuracy vs Practical accuracy... And to me they should use this video to explain that chapter.

  • Is the INDIAN, not the Arrow :)

  • I totally agree with your point, well said. However, when you put a gun in a vice and have a nice tight grouping, you have a precise gun. Accuracy actually refers to hitting what you are aiming at, which comes down to the person shooting the gun, as you said.

  • your right man, because this dude is always trying to say you need this gun and not that gun . he be trying to say that my hands are to big or my g 30 and that i need a g21 he's a damn ass hole ,i have seen you shooting the g 30 and your great ! i know you have been shooting for years but you made me feel good ,plus you have big hands to like me so keep on rocken mr hickok45 love yah !

  • I competely agree. Glad someone finally got out addressed this topic!

  • it's all preference and practice. i get really good with my 1911, then shoot my 5906 and get used to it again. my accuracy tends to lean toward the gun i shot with last.

  • i agree completely

  • barrel length means nothing about "accuracy" barrel quality is much more important in terms of objective accuracy.

    where barrel length is beneficial is more distance between sight posts. essentially, the same movement is amplified more from a short barrel than a longer barrel

  • It is the combination of the shooter and the platform. In rapid fire, I am much more accurate with the M1 than either the AK or AR. At 100 yards during rapid fire, I'm only slightly more accurate with the AR than the AK. The M1 shot 2 MOA, the AR 2 MOA and the AK 6 MOA , Who wooda thunk. The FELT recoil between AK and M1 is about the same. The M1 has much more recoil than the AR, however I can be more accurate with the M1, yet they group the same on paper..

  • I was a glock hater. loved the 1911. I have to agree most of inaccuracy is due to the shooter. I had a friend that could take my Les Baer and shoot it better than I ever could. I could take his XD and out shoot him. the Les Baer felt more natural in my hand than the XD. The Xd wasn't uncomfortable. So I added an XDM to my collection and it points more natural for me. Making it more accurate for myself without lots of practice. I cant shoot LES Baers guarantee 0f 3in at 50yrds

  • Are you a left-eye-dominant righty?

  • The trigger pull is the most important thing, but I do notice a difference when shooting high quality ammo (i.e. speer gold dot) vs cheap FMJs. The expensive JHPs group better. Slight variances in the diameter in the bullet/barrel would change the spin of the bullet, right? Also the length of the barrel, twist rate, and weight of the bullet change the stability of the round; do they not? Guess this would fall under "bullseye shooting" and not the practical shooting you are referring to however.

  • Finally..someone who agrees that bench resting is full of shit.

  • very good video, I actually learned something :)

  • I enjoyed this video. I hear that term quite a bit. I believe practice makes perfect. Thanks! Love your vid's

  • welp theres hi point pistols

  • can u give me ur guns wen u die

  • @themasteratblackops1 IMPOSSIBLE, hickock is immortal

  • i couldn't agree more. just like anything, whether it be archery, any kind of racing (trophy trucks, dirt bikes, stock cars even) it will always be the fault of the person operating the machine. unless of course mechanical failure occurs, but of course some of that would still come down to the operator, since mechanical failure may have occurred due to lack of proper maintenance. kind of like you were saying level of accuracy comes with your level of familiarity with the fire arm/bow.

  • You need to enter into the top shot show.

  • Exactly. accuracy is in the indian, not the arrow.

    

  • would like to see you shoot the North American Arms revolvers :)

  • i will clean up the mess if i could shoot off a few

  • Yall listen to Mr Hickok.

    I train hits on 3X5 cards at 25 yards or less(usually 10-12) and 5X7 cards beyond that to 300 yards. I teach no bullseye shooting. Stress fire is not a bullseye, that is for the snipers. If you engage your enemy now, it is only about stopping an aggressive action. Going home is all it's about. Takes 10 times the amount that you payed for your firearm in ammunition and a lot of time to train yourself.

  • The gun doesn't make the shooter, the shooter makes the gun!

  • that said it all well done ....

  • Hickok could hit 10 for 10 with a bent barrel. The shooter makes the difference.

  • This should qualify as a mythbuster episode... lol Most people are concerned with groupings because they believe that under-stress and at longer distances those groupings will expand a few times. The average once a week/month shooter has no idea that his handgun is capable of shooting at 230 yards let alone anything beyond 25.

  • I totally agree hickok. This is why I bought a GI style M1911 rather than any of the fancy models. It did a great job in military service, it's good enough for whatever I need it to do. It's also why I don't like my dad's PX4- the trigger pull is nuts IMO. He loves it though, so that's what he uses. I just love the ergonomics of the 1911 and the .45 ACP, that's all that really matters.

  • You're a pretty funny cat! Don't take offense but I will be voting for you for the next Pres. Don't care what party. We could use someone that talks like they have some damn sense! Love all your vids, especially this one. I know you kind of held yourself back, being very diplomatic on your handgun caliber comparison vid. also. I just found out my browning hi power is more accurate than my Frisbee..I'll be damn.

  • Great video! Perfect example is my moms Ruger Police Service 6: Ive seen my mom hit a black snake at 10 yds with that gun. I am excellent with revolvers but I cant even put all 6 shots on the paper most times with that gun. I can drill bullseyes with my Taurus 66.

  • I know I'm not pistol accurate; but, what about ammo? I've seen some bullets just shoot off crazy towards a completely different direction. Then again, I always buy the cheapest they've got. I know it's not just me and my gun can't be that bad. Then again, maybe my gun IS that bad?

  • I'm really inaccurate with a .38/.357mag revolver, and a Colt .45 revolver from WWI. But with a Ruger .22 target pistol MK.1 I can hit stuff pretty well. I would assume that's me not the gun... :-|

  • Your hand looks very high on that glock, aren't you afraid of slide bite? ;)

  • you are one hell of a shot!

  • The first time my wife shot any handgun, she shot a Ruger LCPm a Ruger .357 Magnum revolver and a Glock 26. She was lousy with the LCP and couldn't find the target with the revolver, however, with her first magazine from the Glock she shot a pattern about the size of a small salad plate. By the end of the day she was shooting similar patterns with the LCP and revolver. We bought a 26 simply because, like that first day, she was just more comfortable with it and therefore more "accurate" with it.

  • @deadzone59 Of course I meant LCP not LCPm. Stupid sausage fingers.

  • Ok this is going to be a cliche question, But would you reccomend a Beretta 96A1 for a daily CCW?

  • @markmorrow8o i do shoot pretty well with the 92fs which is very similar and so do a lot of other people, although i dont like the safety on it because you cannot carry cock and locked, but the biggest problem your going to face is size a weight. thats a very large gun that is going to be bothersome after a long day of carrying. so no i wouldnt, but the subcompact storm is very similar too. try looking into that first.

  • Have you ever thought of selling that hat? You could make some big bucks lol

  • I am a golf professional and I would relate this to golf clubs. Golfers think they are going to buy a game by purchasing the latest and greatest clubs. Truth is, it's pretty much how you use it (fundamentals) and not the club. Also a part, thats important, is how the club fits you. If the gun fits you and you posses certain fundamentals (or you called variables), you will shoot more accurate! Did I pass the accuracy test? :) Great video and thanks!

  • @tigermaples Good analogy!

  • Great video

  • Is it ACCURATE to say you're whining? lol

  • Uhhh.. why did a year old video just show up in my subscription box?

  • @hickok45 Excellent explaination. You clearified alot with this video. I think anyone who is considering buying a pistol, who is not a pistol expert, should watch this video before their purchase. Your knowledge and expertise aside, I can see you really have a passion for your guns and the shooting sports. You sometimes have to shoot a couple extra rounds beyond making your point, thats great! and you always play it safe.. good job on your videos, always informative and fun! take care hickok!

  • Because the gun is capable of 2" of precision you can hit a 2" target at 25 yards 100%... but due to your human error you can't hit that target. Essentially, you shouldn't be worried about how precise your gun is until you are as accurate as your gun (and even then 50% of your misses are still your fault).

  • Also, the amount of precision a pistol has can affect what someone can hit (it is still largely the shooters fault for missing). If the gun groups 2" at 25 yards, your accuracy (or innaccuracy) is 3" at 25 yards, then your target must be equal to or larger than 5" in order to hit it 100% of the time (and even then you won't necessarily be hitting the center at all). Because if the gun shoots 2" high and then you jerk 3" high (your human innaccuracy) you will hit the top of the target. Cont...

  • Preach Hickok45! I shoot all of my guns the same (same size groups). The only ones that I don't shoot equally are the ones that I get rid of... because they don't fit my hand... not because the gun itself is not precise. Also, the funny thing is that most people aren't using the term "accuracy" correctly. Group size = precision. How close the group is to the intended point of aim (the bull) = accuracy. 

  • I am more accurate with the G19 than the G26 but both guns are more accurate than I am. Did I get that right Mr Hickok? LOL. Thanks You Rock.

  • This is true, unless you have a gun made with tiny sights that are lower than the actual sight picture such as the 1858 Enfield that you have haha.

    Every gun when manufactured in the first place is designed to have the correct sight picture - the manufacturers physically test the gun and make adjustments accordingly to have the sights fitted for the guns. And it is the shooters responsibility to have the gun properly zeroed. They are as accurate as each other - the shooter should zero anyway.

  • only reason he missed the first time with the glock is probably because of re adjustment to the sights.

  • WOW! Watching hickok shoot thouoghs gongs, I never realized 45. traveled so slowly!

  • eating subway and watching hickok.....life is good

  • Nice Vid. BTW is it just me or did the two guns acually sound different? :)

  • @ 14:37 ... two thumbs up!!

  • @hickok45 You are awesome, really great info, very much appreciated. Hope I can shoot as competent as you one day.

  • 1:40

    Damn that has a big delay.

  • thanks bill, you said accuracy a million times, if i hear the word accuracy one more time im going to shoot myself! :)

  • oh, so true....

  • Well put! 99.999999999999% of the time, it will be the shooter.

  • oq vc é... vc era do exercito ou é um colecionador de armas oq vc é? me responde por e-mail é leonardo-montibeller@bol.com.b­r

  • @hickok45 Do you have any arthritis or other medical ailments from shooting so much?

  • Serious question by the way, not trying to be funny or condescending.

  • Speaking of accuracy I was shooting pumpkins with my newly acquired 1938 Tula arms mosin nagant, with surplus FMJ ammo, and was becoming frustrated, because it seemed like I wasn't hitting them at all. That was, until I realised that the tiny pumpkin precariously balanced on the fencepost had ten holes in it, and the FMJ's had just blown straight through and hit the burm behind it. To get any kind of reaction I had to skim it along the side. Ended up making a jacko-lantern at 50 yards.

  • 13:14..couldnt agree with you more

  • First time I've noticed that you appear to shoot with your left eye. I'm slightly left dominant and right handed, but I just sight with my right eye so I don't have to lean over so much.

  • @smith45acp You might try to learn to shoot left handed in that case. I'm lucky in that I am right eyed and right handed, but from what I understand you should shoot with your dominant eye not your dominant hand.

  • I always "feel" like my little Buckmark is the most accurate piece I own, but realistically MY accuracy with that pistol is 90% owed to the lack of recoil and thus my steadier trigger pull sans the anticipation I have with a .45

  • I have learned a lot from Hickok45 and will continue to do so. Thank you for all your work in your videos. And thanks for having Fate of Destinee on one of them. I enjoy her videos also. Keep up the awesome work!!!!!

  • Like you said all the guns can shoot better than we can

  • we need to vote hickok45 2012

  • cool color steels i like the orange better

  • I still think Hickok is what makes things accurate ;)

  • @hickok45 why do you old folks always make your smileys with a nose

    thats so 2003, at least your not like my uncle who makes it like this :o)

  • @ermaslv44 , Not 2003, try 1981 when I bought my first Apple II computer. :-)

  • @hickok45 Hickok, please tell me you are not an apple fanboy...

  • @hickok45 OK :o)

  • do you do a review on the glock 17 gen 4 ? ... love to see it ... oh by the way ... get a better mic

  • Let's say you have two guns (gun A and gun B). Even if you test each gun in a steady vice grip and determine that gun A has a better inherent accuracy, some people might shoot better with gun B simply because it's features are better suited to that individual. As you said, when it comes to practical accuracy, there are so many variables that are way more relevant than the inherent accuracy of each gun. Good video.

  • could you have signs or tell how far the targets are from the table? thanks

  • These plates make different sounds. Can you shoot a song for us? ^ ^

  • THANK YOU HICKOK!!!!!!

    WELL DONE!!!!!!!!

  • i'm confused, so which gun is the most accurate? lol

  • thats my grandpa rite there!

  • Great video! I will stop chasing the mythical accuracy unicorn at the range!

  • you are an insainly good shot lol i love your vids do u have a heritage rough rider if so would you plaz do a in depth vid on it i may be getting one and would love to see one of your vids on it

  • CHUCK TESTA

  • i love this. it changed the way i think.

  • Anyone who tells you a particular make, model isn't accurate. What they really mean is they can't shoot it.

  • Sir, may I ask did you buy your orange targets on your range or were they homemade? Thank you for such a great vid.

  • Hey hickok, at this point don't you think that the term accuracy can be a synonymous of precision? some people think it's a different thing

  • That's it! I'm unsubscribing all other gun-channels them cocksuckers don't know half of what you do! (sorry for the language, have been watching deadwood)

    Thanks for being awesome

  • Wonderful video and topic. I know when I take my Sig P220 45acp, P226 9mm, Kimber 45acp, Colt Python (shooting 38spl or any other pistol), to the range I realize the guns will only be as accurate as I am. They may also be much more/less accurate in another shooters hands. We can work on our accuracy, but most any gun's true "accuracy" is usually never reached. A shooter is human (and fallible) while a gun is not.

  • Love it when you go shooting and they miss their target and blame it on the accuracy of the firearm. I was spotlighting with a mate who was using a .22-250 and I had my .223. A pig wondered out in front of us at about 450yrd. He had been talking up how accurate his new rifle was so I let him take the shot. He was about 2ft low so I followed it up and managed to drop it. He went on to say it was the rifles fault he missed because it was beyond it's "effective range", had to laugh.

  • excellent video!!

  • hickok45 your vids rock.Keep on rollin them out.Really like your Marlin guidegun one.Gonna get one for myself as well.

  • Thank you for that "rant". Someone needed to address this annoying topic. I believe "shootability" is what everyone is jabbering about when the A-work is thrown around as it is. You seem noticeably more relaxed at the end of this video.

  • Good points made. Thxs.

  • Really good video, Greg. 

  • Im not sure if I should be doing homework or watching Hickok45's videos i guess ill go with the videos

  • @Thebikeguy133, Hey, my videos ARE homework. They fill that gap in education curriculum that is just not being addressed in the colleges of education. :-)

  • @hickok45 true facts!

  • @hickok45 That's the truth! I wish I could take a gunsmithing class at a state university instead of going to a specialty school.

  • @Thebikeguy133

    haha i do the same thing!

  • @Thebikeguy133

    I was having the exact same thought. Got on to do a presentation, got caught up watching hickok's fantastic videos

  • @Thebikeguy133 i'm in the same situation right now hahaha :-)

  • @Thebikeguy133 hes been doing this since fps had shitty diapers

  • Great truth here! Anyone who has been shooting handguns for awhile must realize this. Also, kinda puts the mind at ease on what gun you want own. As long as you buy a quaility name, they are all pretty darn good, so just get the one you want, and go out and have fun with it. Even Glocks! Ha! Hey Hickok...Enjoy your vids bigtime.

  • Life is good whit a glock 21

  • great vid , but I really wanted to see the revolver get some action

  • I live in Tennessee to!

  • show the acricy. then go out thar and look. shot wouer faver it gun.

  • show the acricy.

  • Accuracy is down to the shooter, consistency is the guns job.

  • Hickock45 is supernatural the rest of us are on our own.

  • so in saying that I believe you mentioned it in this video so we seem to have the same take so great informative vid and keep up the good work and ignore the stupid comments as great minds think alike!!

  • might try paper targets and trying to shoot the same hole everytime...thats my take on accuracy!

  • great video, as always! It's all about "Fundamentals". Keep up the great work!

  • your the man hickok!!! u shoot good , do good reviews ,and do them with good guns.. thanks alot plus i think its cool how u dont swear like a sailor . im way more accurate with my sig than the glock for some reason i think its the rigger.

  • your the man hickok!!! u shoot good , do good reviews ,and do them with good guns.. thanks alot plus i think its cool how u dont swear like a sailor

  • He does not seem to mention the distance away his targets are he shoots at. Pretty hard to judge by watching the videos.

  • @service1956, Yep, you have to watch that guy; he's always trying to fool the viewers somehow. In actuality, whether someone hits the target is mostly the gun, not the shooter. :-)

  • @hickok45 See my theory is you really only shoot blanks and with a complex series of pulleys and magnets you cause the steels targets to move as if they're being hit! Also you get paid $1 Million a video by Glock but you're also a double agent and work for Ruger as well. Oh and your compound is really in Siberia, not Tennessee. It never ceases to amaze me the sheer number of conspiracies I find out you're involved in by just reading some of the comments on your videos!

  • @thefinder808, Yep, I learn a lot about myself from viewers. I'm still waiting for those checks from all the gun makers I'm supposed to be getting. :-)

  • @thefinder808 definitely one of the funniest comments I've ever read...... out of all the crazies that usually leave comments here you sir gave me a genuine laugh

  • @hickok45 Yep, I have often thought you were trying to fool me about something. Don't know what, but something. But maybe you can help me with this to make up for that. My bullets have a tendency of hitting whatever my gun is pointed at when I pull the trigger. Any advice?

  • @service1956 about 20 feet away.

  • Can you get the thunder .50 bmg handgun & make a video of it please...

  • great shoot !!

  • Accuracy just depends on the shooter and the tool he /she is used to use,thats my opinion

  • I love ur videos.

  • Thanks for posting your videos. I own one rifle, an AK-47. Put about 300 rounds through it so far. Bought it mostly for novelty, and perhaps home defense. It's a alot of fun to shoot, do you have one? You shoot alot of metal targets, ever had a richochette (SP) ?

  • good shooting there!!

  • In my experience (I have been shooting for 19 years), I have encountered a lot of people, particularly new shooters, who do not seem to fully understand that when it comes to handguns, they are sacrificing a lot in the way of accuracy and stopping power in favor of concealability and portability.

  • This must be what they mean by "minute of bad guy." LOL. Too much is made of accuracy with defensive pistols. I like to use my single and double action revolvers for hunting and woods carry, but even then you need to understand that there are limits to the accuracy you're going to get from a handgun. Another great video.

  • Rob Lethem? Is that how you spell it?

  • You make a good point in this video. I have to admit i've been guilty of saying one gun is more accurate than another. What you're saying makes sense.

  • Hey there Mr. Hickok - love your videos, keep up the good work. Your point on accuracy is well made but I was wondering- how do you sight in your weapons initially (especially rifles)? Do you not bench rest them for that. p.s. I'm not being sarcastic - just wondering.

    Thanks

  • @brennanrjohn Without a bench rest original sight in accuracy will be a crap shoot. There no human alive that can hold a gun absolutely rock steady. Rifles especially with scopes can be as accurate as an inch group when sighted in correctly. HAND GUNS are a different animal that is, if you can regularly hit a dinner plate you doing great. I hand gun shoot 8 inch targets and generally keep 99% in that target. With rest I can keep most in a grapefruit size area. Hand gun sighting in is limited

  • I shot a 1911 the other day, I didn't like it all too much... I got to shoot a 9mm m92fs, a 9mm glock, some random .22 handgun, and a .44 magnum.... The 1911 just felt weird to hold, the m92fs was pretty sexy

    Oh I got to shoot a tokarev tt30 as well :P

    You also helped me decide to pick up my SKS... I got a soviet-made one manufactured in 1950

  • When I was at the Police Academy, combat shooting was close 15 feet, draw,point and shoot. No aiming.Monthly Target Qualifying was aim and shoot.

    A few months back, I purchased my first Laser Sight. Well in a drill point and shoot maybe 10 feet? When I turned on the Laser I was off two feet? So much for combat drill. I am sold completely on Laser Sights, good ones are not cheap about $250 to 350 each.Well I now have 9 laser sights, and shoot weekly. For self defense,they work very well indeed.

  • @surfside006

    Any particular brand name (laser) that you prefer over the others, and why? Thank you!