Ring Nebula - M57

[joikbenik]

can't find this at all :S

[jack342able]

@SuperACDCForEver Absolutely Yes! Find a Dark place to view the Night sky and use the technigue called adverted vision it Will help ;)

[joikbenik]

is it hard to find it?

[25TriggerHappy]

How much are mallincams? I heard they were expensive..^-^

[8Zeitgeist]

@25TriggerHappy about a grand last time i checked.

[astrogeek21]

Great job! M57 is my favorite nebula

[SuperACDCForEver]

Wow! Anyone think u could see it through a 6" Orion reflector w/ a 7.5mm lens?

[aPpLeJuIcE37RainLucy]

@SuperACDCForEver ya you could definitely see it. you wouldn't be able to see the remaining star in the center though. i have an 8" Newtonian and i can see the ring, but no star.

[flashjacksonbrown]

Lol wat

[shinraninja]

wow amazing

[onenhero]

I looked at M57 through Starquest XT8 a few nights ago. With the moon light and light pollution I couldn't see anything but a fuzzy dust patch in the sky. It was clearly a nebula but was kinda dissapointed.

[vibol03]

how much does a 14"scope usually cost? must be expensive i imagine

[jdblueemerald]

@vibol03 They can be anywhere from about $6,000 to $10,000 for pretty nice consumer level units, but I'm now using an 11" that cost me $2700 for just the scope, and it's my favorite way to go these days because the cameras are so sophisticated.

[SaturnAndItsRings]

nice!



[jack342able]

hello can i see nebulae with my 150 mm (6 inch) 1400 focal length (f9.2) so please tell me if i can see a nebula in colour and details?

[jdblueemerald]

@jack342able Should be able to , yes.

[rjr16uk]

Hi, sorry this may seem a dumb question but how are you shooting this in colour? Any advice for someone using an 8' telescope, I know its not going to see things a 14 inch would but any chance to shooting in colour such as this here? Any advice much apreciated.

[jmagus1]

@rjr16uk The Mallincams we use are color cameras, and they work for well on 8" SCTs. Is your scope an SCT? Whatever it is, you'll also see it in color, the same as the video above.

[JabberCT]

That is awesome!

[2105695]

@JabberCT you can a nebula witn no colors butif you want to see some details you have to go away from the city anf if you could take a nebula filter this could improve the picture with more color and details

[genogeno1234]

Absolutely stunning...I gotta have this thing.

[jmagus1]

@genogeno1234 Yup. Once you've had Mallincam, you'll never go back (except for Jupiter and Saturn with binos, especially 2" binos). I just shot you a note answering your questions.

[hammondman2]

That is spectacular! What kind of camera are you using? I'd love to see colorful images like that but all I see is gray! Of course I doubt I would be able to mount it on my telescope I have an Orion Dob XT8.

[jmagus1]

They're called a Mallincam, built by Rock Mallin in Ottawa, Canada. They're pretty light, so I'm not so sure you'd have a problem with that. I shot all these videos with a camera fairly inferior to the ones he's building now, and which I'm using now. I also have a 2d to 3d converter between the camera and the TV which has taken our views to absolutely sick. I can't believe the views we're getting now.

[SaturnAndItsRings]

you must have a filter because I have looked at it it is gray

[jmagus1]

Actually, that's just how it appears with these color cameras. Are you using a camera? Or eyepiece. Eyepieces will show a faint grayish-blue. After these cameras came along, I've never used eyepieces again except for my 2" binos on Jupiter and Saturn.

[SaturnAndItsRings]

@jmagus1 an eyepeice

[jmagus1]

Yeah...eyepieces just can't get this stuff even close to the cameras, and I do mean not even close. With the cameras and the shutter integrations we're working with now, my 11" Celestron is in effect a 70" to 80" scope. I have a set of handbuilt 2" binos that I was putting a pair of 22 mm Naglers in a 14" Celestron, and although the view was the best with eyepieces I'd ever seen in any scope of any kind, it still didn't hold a candle to the video cameras.

[jmagus1]

Actually, that's just how it appears with these color cameras. Are you using a camera? Or eyepiece? Eyepieces will show a faint grayish-blue. After these cameras came along, I've never used eyepieces again except for my 2" binos on Jupiter and Saturn.

[noahalso]

...123455  This would a color filter enhanced view of the Ring Nebula. What you see through the eyepiece, depending on your dark sky location and the size of the scope, you might see a slight bluish green tint.

[jdblueemerald]

Actually, it's not a color filter. That's straight through the video camera. Since the advent of these video cameras, I can't even be bothered with eyepieces. I've tried, and they don't get it done unless I'm using my 2" binos with 22 mm Naglers and looking at Jupiter, Saturn, Mars, or the Moon.

[skyliner288]

this is fake, the colors never come out like that through the telescope and stop uploading google images :)

[jdblueemerald]

It's not fake, actually. It's a high-end color video camera. If you ever have an opportunity to see the views those things provide, you'll be staggered. Now I have a 2d to 3d unit I put inline between the camera and the TV, and where these goggles that make those images absolutely sick. You can check out my other videos and see that they're videos, including my Mercury Transit of the Sun, which won the YouTube science and technology award for the week of that event.

[porkchopsisgood]

@skyliner288 You're right that VISUALLY colors cannot be discerned this well through a telescope; through the eyepiece the most you might get is a bluish-gray hue. But with a camera you can do long exposure...it gathers and holds the light; in most instances it only takes a few seconds exposure to gain detail.

[propaghandi2]

AWSOME really nice, do you need special filters to see the colors, i look at the Orion nebulae and cant see colors! Anyway 5 on 5 gr8 video!

[36cfrocksmysox123455]

is it really that color when you see it?

[jmagus1]

Yes, it is. Beautiful, isn't it?

[BigDuke6ixx]

@36cfrocksmysox123455, no you won't see any colour looking through the scope.

[MrJac3cc]

its a fingure print on your telescope dude

[jdblueemerald]

Oh, OK. Well, maybe you can tell us what a "fingure" is and then maybe we'll take anything you have to say seriously.

[Steven197981]

It's not exactly a "finger print", MrJac3cc.

[crucialconflict02]

beautiful. how far out is that nebula from us?

[Lobo4Ever50]

5 mins

[bozidarg]

lol

[Oscar847]

2 thousand meters.

[Steven197981]

It's about 2,300 light years away.

[liltd87]

reminds me of the helix nebula

[anonymousstormchaser]

awesome i am having trouble seeing this with a celestron firstscope with city lights. Im not suprised but i need to get to a dark site.

[dannyb2303]

Wow... totally awesome!

[Kapseros]

jmagus u said u got a 14" telescope?

what kind of equatorial base u using?

it has to be heavy, that's why i'm asking

beautiful capture by the way. my congrats

[jmagus1]

Yes, a 14" on a Celestron German Equatorial mount, but now have a Webster 28". And thanks.

[Oscar847]

ur telescope shows nebuelase in colour!?!

[pinsetter1991]

im sure this was taken after very long exposure times... through most telescopes this nebula looks like a very faint/blurry ring.

[nikonikoboo93]

Wow. Beautiful! What kind of video camera did you use? Is it expensive?

[malliakos2]

i saw this with my telescope... but i can't see any colour....have you an eye filter or something for that for your telescope?

[jmagus1]

No, the video camera is able to pick up that color because it's stacking digital frames of it at 128 frames per 2, 7, 14 or 28 seconds. The video camera increases the light gathering capability of any scope to about 3 to 5 times its aperture.

[jamieball]

how big of a mirror do you need to see an object like this?

[jmagus1]

To see it like that you'd need a very big mirror, 30" or larger, or about any sized scope above 6" and a video camera.

[guitarplayer4real]

I can see the ring through my kids 4.5 inch Celestron. I can see it a lot better through my 10 inch reflector.

With an imager its even better because the camera catches more light from the object than just the scope.

[jmagus1]

I tried, this damned thing doesn't work so well.

[GMSamuelRhine]

that was a video looked more like a picture to me.

[jmagus1]

Galaxies tend to look very stationary because the scope is tracking them. And they don't really dance, or sing, or wave their arms, if you get my drift.

[GMSamuelRhine]

duh i know they dont dance its just through my scope you can see a little bit of movement do to the equatorial moving that scope

[chainsawcharlie]

the type of video camera they used takes exposures lasting several seconds, then displays the images. what you're seeing is a slideshow with the images gathered in real time. if that makes any sense

[GMSamuelRhine]

oh ok

[jmagus1]

Not true. It is a video camera, not a still camera.

[GMSamuelRhine]

well reply to him not me im not the one that said it. that way it goes to his fucking inbox not mine

[jmagus1]

Not true. It is a video camera, not a still camera.

[Webastrophotographer]

Cool!

[AstronomyOnline]

Nice view of it. That star in the middle of the Ring Nebula is a 15th magnitude!

[MacBooker4444]

wow!

[alphaomega223]

thnx you tube very helpful info on the reply keep up the good wrk

[alphaomega223]

i have a meade 127mm apeture 350times magnification and barlow leanse is this somthing i could c with my kind of tele  great shot thu looks awesome

[jdaliix]

I'm afraid with that telescope you won't be able to see the two objects you've seen and commented on like that. Without a camera, it would take a 40" telescope to come even close. You could use a video camera to get them far better than you can with just eyepieces.

[Zeethr]

hi jdaliix, would adding a camera to any scope significantly improve the quality or even the size of the object in the field of view?

[Pingletons]

No you could see this, though, it will be in black and white, and extremely hard to focus on. It will also appear smaller.

[kaptaintrips]

That picture is fantastic. Is this raw video? I noticed how the picture moves and gets blurry at the end... almost like tracking was off a hair.

[jmagus1]

It was either mpeg or wmv that I uploaded to YouTube. Can't remember what scope that was shot through, but even a little wind can move it around some, which is what I think you're referrin to.

[joeyisfunny]

I think he was asking if this is a live video as in "is this what you see when looking through the eyepiece"?

[gr33d777]

awesome

[purplejane13]

howd u get this vid?. tnx

[jmagus1]

Through a 14" telescope and an astronomy video camera.

[purplejane13]

how much does it cost u, and can give me good brands, im really interested. tnx so much.

[jmagus1]

I have about $8000 into that particular setup, but you can get a nice scope and Mallincam video camera for around $3000.

[purplejane13]

wow its quite expensive. thank u very very much for the advice.

[Haeinscute]

okay, anyway... that looks awesome

[sjenkin]

i lived there

[jmagus1]

Excellent. How was it?

[rence619]

Damn...i thought im the only one who lives there... >_< maybe we are neighbors..