Why is Fincher considered higher brow than Nolan? Fincher is mostly known for his intensely genre-confined crime films, while Nolan is not only an accomplished directer who popularized the notion of taking action films seriously, he also writes all of his own stuff.
Fincher seems kinda twisted in his choice of content. Loses points in my book. Brilliant? I think so. I think Jack The Ripper may have been very clever too. I guess he's like the Jack The Ripper of movie-making. Seriously, why do people put certain things up on the screen? World isn't screwed up enough? I'll go with Nolan any day, and Malick here? I'm simply dying to see this film.
@mechaworks eh, i sort of see nolan as a younger fincher, maybe slightly ahead of the game for his age. if you think about it it matches up. se7en, memento. fight club, insomnia. i don't know. just give nolan another 10 years, he'll be rackin up the oscar nominations.
This film makes no missteps, but the way the whole thing is made is a mistake. To anyone who has seen it, you know exactly what I'm saying. It tests your patience, it follows too loose of a narrative, and yet it is... perfect.
I am a huge fan of Malick and of course Fincher and Nolan being that I am going 2 film school next year I think Malick's films are the kind of films I want to make, Im tired of the same stupid hollywood rom coms and remakes and sequels and prequels......
@65g4 if you hate sequels and prequels, why the hell do you like nolan, cause thats all he has been making. actually thts pretty much all he makes, inception is straight thru and thru summer blockbuster action popcorn flick, and then the batman movies. either you hate hollywood type films and nolan, or you like them both. dont sound hypocritical. cause nolan makes popcorn "hollywood" flicks thru and thru. its wat he does undeniably. so pick a side.
@malows1234 Nolan does what hardly anyone else solidly can: he makes movies with immense depth that still sell like crazy. No I'm not a stupid fanboy, I study philosophy so I tend to think about things from time to time. Am I an authority on film? Hell no! Can I reasonably make a solid argumentation that Nolan isn't Hollywood like for example Bay? Hell yes! Nolan broke with memento and there was NOTHING hollywood about it. He doesn't like Hollywood, Hollywood likes him.
@Redspy27 nolan doesn't like hollywood, yet a third comic book studio popcorn selling blockbuster being made by nolan. seems like he loves hollywood. particularly the juicy paycheck and space mansions warner brothers keeps giving him.
@malows1234 pretty sure he's talking more style, material, less rewards, benefits. his batmans are not fuckin tim burton's batmans. tim burton's were rad, don't get me wrong, but seriously, take a look at both of their batman's back to back and tell me that one didn't make memento and one didn't make edward scissorhands. am i right?
@Redspy27 didn't spielberg or kubrick do that? make artsy films with huge depth while getting an almost massive box office? i mean Kubrick's clockwork orange was warn. bros. 2nd highest grossing film at that time, and mind you clockwork orange was rated nc17 and kubrick pulled it out of theaters before it had a long time. so nolan's not the only one.
i remember seeing "the thin red line" and felt an immediate connection to "memento" and "inception". it is particularly apparent in the flashback scenes with leonard shelby and his wife in memento and dom and mal in inception. they look very much like the scenes with ben chaplin and his wife back home in |the thin red line. strong visual similarities but also content wise.
You people need to get your facts straight, Nolan never said that he was never going to make another Batman film after The Dark Knight if you actually read his interviews he was waiting for a good story to come about. PLUS inception was always going to be the film that came after The Dark Knight. Another thing is that All the directors you people are talking about are all good directors no reason why we as an audience cant like them all.
For people who believe that Nolan is crazy, there are a few scenes from Memento, and Inception that have Malick's influence in them. The scene in Memento where he thinks about his wife definitely has influences from Malick.
@kimifan1989 Roger that. Or for that matter in The Prestige, Inception, Batman Begins, Insomnia and Memento. I think he just got approached by someone influential for this interview and didn't know how to say 'No'. Now if Nolan were talking about Michael Mann or Ridley Scott, then yeah. Malick and Chris Nolan, hell no!
i would not say that there are evident similarities between the work of malick and nolan, malick is unique as kubrick was. nolan handles narrative better than any other director i know, which malick clearly doesn't give as much emphasis in comparison to his visual focus. the tree of life was brilliant, but i was hoping it's message would be more clear, so i could relax and enjoy the film rather than laboring my mind searching for purpose.
The tree of life.. quote "Someday we'll fall down and weep.And we'll understand it all,all things...UNIVERSE(all 1)my idea for your life from non life.you are telling me from absolutely nothing came a thing called GOD,then he made the whole universe and everything in it,what would he made everything from himself....am i wrong...i don't think so!
3 Masterpieces..... But "The tree of Life" I didn't like it at all, too much imagery and not enough of anything else.. Which works in 2001 A SPACE ODDYSEY but not so much in this film. 6/10 for me.
Film sent me back to the womb. Wept for 3 straight hours. Too close to my own childhood memories. Mom and dad don't know why they are married any more; little boys playing with electricity out of sheer, rural boredom. I told all my friends not to see it; it was too beautiful and authentic; I have never been more depressed by an encounter with The Void.
@onedollarphilistine THIS FILM DOES NOT CHANGE MY MIND, IT DOENST TELLME SOMETHING NEW THAT I DONT KWNOW....IT ONLY SHOWS THINGS...VERY INTERESTING...BUT WITH LACK OF REAL DEEP AND MEANING!...IT IS FAR TO BE GREAT OR A MASTERPIECE!.....THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT WAS MADE TO BE MASTERPIECE...
I couldn't imagine a better movie than The Tree of Life, but that's only because it's so personal to me. BUT, I'd definitely understand where it'd turn people off due to it's esotericism (sp?).
Terrence Malick is a very inspiring filmmaker! His influence can be seen in my most recent project, a no-budget "art"/horror short film. the trailer for which can be found on my channel.
Anyone with the dvd know the song playing during Brad Pitt's dialogue in the chapter/scene "They're closing the plant"? It's a soft piano. Just wondering, can't find it anywhere...
Nolans best works are The prestige and Memento. IMO! ;] TDK was ok and fun.. but i didn't care for the characters, and the "realistic" approach on the comic is total BS lol. How can Batman evr be "realistic". I really enjoyed it though even with all it's flaws. As for Inception.. I loved it. It isn't briljant or mindblowing.. but it was good. Although I didn't really care much for the characters (more then TDK though), the concept intrigued me and was executed well. as for TTOL, I'll see it ^^
does anyone know where can I find where directors talking about their inspirations other directors etc? like "Tarantino on Fincher" (in the suggestion box)
I saw the film but I'm still uncertain about some things...At 0:48, does that represent little Jack O'Brien coming out of his mother's whom, or is it just me?
I haven't seen any of Terrence Malick's movies, but Christopher Nolan and David Fincher are two of my favorite directors. If they say that this movie is worth checking out, then by God I better check it out!
@40Pacino If you like Nolan's and Fincher's stuff, you might not actually like Malick's movies. VERY different. Tree of Life shouldn't be the starting point, maybe "Badlands" or "Days of Heaven" or "the New World" to start with, so you get used to the cinematic style first. "thin red line" and "tree of life" are much harder to take at first.
Full of emotional expressions and noumenon. One should be very sensitive to understand the interpretation. This movie dealt with the past and making the viewer to think about it. We are all cells, just cells, and this too shall pass.
@tedcantu1 The reason that this movie is so great is because it's about a ordinary family with ordinary problems. But it makes you question these things in life that you normally wouldn't. Also, this entire movie is art.
SPOILER: For instance in Christopher Nolan's Insomnia there is a scene where Pacino"s character is calling a woman to inform her about her husband's death whom he actually killed, in this scene Christopher Nolan enphatises Pacino's character's nervous hands as he talks on the phone in a very delicate way...To me that's Malick all over, just to pick something. Also notice Nolan documentarish style of filmmaking and the constant use of the "Aereal Camera" taking shots of building and landscapes.
And Fincher, that guy is great! His compositions brought the 1970s influence to a new age. He makes shots as iconic as the best of the new-Hollywood era! Seven is on par with Chinatown, Alien, and Close Encounters visually. Each frame is beautiful! Benjamin Button is as heavy and layered as Thin Red Line to me. SO all this arguing, this is why our generation sucks. We argue over things like which is better when this discussion involves three great artists.
I see more kinship with Aronofsky and Malick than Nolan and Malick, but Fincher has some shots similarly composed and interpreted. Alot of the modern film makers are more nihilistic in their approach. But damn, all this hate on Nolan is sickening. You say Badlands and Days of Heaven are brilliant, which they are. But Dark Knight made comic book adaptations viable and fresh and realistic. Dark Knight and Inception should quell such harsh and unwarranted criticism.
@Fragile0Still no. it stems from the popular idea that nolan is the best of them. even though hes technically masterful, his films lack something. i don't know if its the characters or the stories but they always seem flat. nolans films are more about the spectacle and clever. the charaters seem to be there to fill the ideas, very difficult to pull off.
i think the best new age director out there is paul thomas anderson. or the coens.
@matthewmch Yea, you're right about Nolan in a way - there is some soul lacking because he is preoccupied with clever storytelling and spectacle. But you can't have it all, really. If you took out some of the twists and set pieces and were left with the characters they would probably seem to have more meaning suddenly. A single explosion can impact the tone and focus of the entire thing because it plays with the balance of what is important in the film's world.
@Fragile0Still Well, I havent read the comments enough to see the Nolan hate, but in regards to Nolan and Malick I think people will see more of Malick in Memento, particularly in the flashback scene where he is in the diner remembering his wife, there is voice over images of his wife in their home. In this one scene I see more of Malick than in Aronofsky, Fincher, or anyone else, it is pretty much a direct rip off of his style.
@Fragile0Still and PS, I think Nolan is one of the genius' in cinema at the moment, but I think it is a shame his motives are so populist, I think he made better movies when he had less money!
@Fragile0Still Shut up. "Dark Knight" is just another action film, nothing important came from it. "Inception" was a simple concept made out to be some incredibly deep film. It's about going inside a dream, and then in another dream and then in another dream etc.. if you can't follow that concept then you're a fucking idiot.
@Fragile0Still If you rewatch Nolan's movies the way he uses the handheld camera and the way he rarely uses artificial lights is probably the thing that makes him close to Mallick. Also Memento is probably Nolan's closest movie.
@Fragile0Still actually i would say nolans earlier work is what is great about him. the dark knight is a ridiculous plot-hole ridden disappointment, and inception is very overrated. memento and the prestige are what should quell harsh criticism.
@hblaisauce You're so ridiculous. Let me guess, you don't like anything that's too mainstream. Or is it because you just couldn't put the pieces together in "The Dark Knight."
@Fragile0Still I applaud your defense of Nolan, but he's made quite a few more movies than TDK and Inception that justify him as a great director. In fact, he simply has no bad movie. Insomnia is probably the least depthful, but even that movie was pretty well done. People forget that Fincher for example has been in the business for so much longer and has made so much more movies. Nolan's been here since 2000, with 7 movies and look where he's at, he's right there next to Fincher.
keep in mind that it's just my opinion. You could enjoy "the tree of life" much more than "the fountain", everyone has a different taste so don't take my word for it haha :D
@AwesomeSauce069 @AwesomeSauce069 I´m sure Sean Penn is an intelligent person, so... you are lying. But even if he had not enjoyed it, are you saying that the opinion of Sean Penn is more credible than Nolan's and Fincher, and the most intelligent and dignified world cinema criticals, like the ones who gave the Cannes TOP prize to this film?
Saw it on Saturday with 5 other friends it was great loved it , when u watch the trailer it looks crap but wen ur there watching it its soo amazing. You can find it on fillmsi.co.cc by the way. Great film.
It's not SPAM! it's my answer to your question, TheManwithNoName103. I love Kubrick, specially the “Clockwork Orange” and love Hitchcock too, but they never made a movie about this subject! “Clock Orange” was about the society:It shows how the society creates “monsters” and the crimes the society commits to get rid of them. The Tree of Life talks about US:Human Beings. About our deep questions and feelings and how we turn in cynical human beings...Requires a lot more introspection to get it!
@TheManwithNoName103 That's because Maliick is a great philosopher. That's why you don't like it: you don't understan his metaphors. This is not a movie for common people. It's made to people who can and likes to think. You must interpret the matephors to understand this movie.
@claudiavantacich what a loud of tripe.'not for common people' pull your head out of your ass. those stupid voice over snippets. they weren't clever they wern't even pretentious. just lazy writing. and another thing whats to think about? family, grace, nature, death, god, heaven. u dont need a silver enema to understand those themes. my fav fillm is 2001. similar but there was ambiguity there. in TTOL the message is very clear and in fact VERY SIMPLE. ur not a smarter person for liking it.
@claudiavantacich THE FILM IS GOOD BUT FLAWED , IS FRESH, WITH BIUTIFUL IMAGES AND INTERESTING WAY TO PORTRAY LIFE FROM THE FILMAKER. BUT THIS ISENT GREAT! MALICK SOMETIMES USE SOMETHINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER THAT IT IS ALMOUST TO GET STUPID! (THE CAMERA MOVES AND THE MOTHER ONLY SEEMS TO PLAY WITH HIS CHILDREEN) BUT WHaT MORE IT SHOWS?IT DOENST HAVE A REAL DEEP THIS FILM....MALICK SPEND SO MUCH TIME TRYING TO SHOWS LIFE...THAT THE CHARACTERS LOOKS CARTOONS, ARE BIDIMENTIONAL!
It's obvious that Nolan is a filmmaker more interested in editing, structure, plot, and arch. His movies are more dramatic than Malick's, which clearly have interest in spiritual concepts far vaster than the goings-on of the plot. Face it, though, there is no agreement when it comes to art. Art is always very personal, for both the audience and the artist, so you will not find a consensus. You are not right in calling Malick better. Nolan has had ten years. Malick has had fifty.
@SeekerInTheSchy Christopher Nolan has already resigned himself to a very genre-like style of filmmaking. To say that he has the potential to make artful films like Terrence Malick's is to inflate Nolan's ego and to disservice Malick's artistry.
@cw6391 First of all, all films fit into a genre. Malick has done a road movie (Badlands), a romantic drama (Days of Heaven), a war film (Thin Red Line), a historical epic (New World), and a family drama (Tree of Life). Now, is it a disservice to relegate these to templates? Obviously, yes. Is Memento just a film noir? The Prestige a historical drama? The Batman movies just action films? Is Inception just a heist flick? I disagree on all counts. There is no shame in genre filmmaking.
@cw6391 Furthermore, I struggle to see what ego you are afraid of feeding. It's clear that the man thinks he is making a higher class of filmmaking than what is commonly being put out by Hollywood today, but he's right. Why do you prefer to put down Nolan for his success? Malick may be pushing the boundaries of film, and I love his movies, but he does so by avoiding plot in favor of naturalist imagery.
Nolan and Fincher are superbly great filmmakers. However Malick is a god of cinema. In my opinion there isn't one director in the world today who comes close to Malick's impecable genius.
God, "The Tree of Life" was such a unique, powerful, profound, beautiful movie, the kind that haunts you for some time after you see it. I honestly, and without smugness, feel bad for the people who couldn't get into it and see into the heart of it. Then, combine that with Fincher and Nolan, two of the most interesting filmmakers of their generation - great video.
the only reason this film won at cannes was because melancholia was disqualified by Lars' nazi jokes, and the French are sensitive to that simply because they gave up the jews in WWII.
@michaelmoviemaker are you fucking kidding me. the way you say it, you make sound like nolan is the greatest director, which he is not. maybe if he stops with the summer blockbusters, and makes masterful stuff like memento. but i am sure nolan just enjoys masturbating to the stacks of cash that warner brothers offered him to make a completely unnecsary third sequel. but i agree about fincher and malick being awesome.
@malows1234 1st. Blockbuster movies =|= bad movies. Nolan and plenty of directors before him have proved this. As long as a film is GOOD why should the fact that it's a "summer blockbuster" change anything? 2nd TDKR is necessary because it's called a "trilogy" for a reason. It was always intended for him to make 3, WB wanted more but Nolan doesn't want to make anymore after the 3rd film. 3rd Nolan IS a god, one of the better new directors for sure. 4th stop being so pretentious
@thelatestttplague you have no idea what you speak off, since nolan didn't intend it to be a trilogy ever. He didn't even want to make the second one, he only did it because batman begins made tons of money, thirdly he said after the second one was done, before the release he said in convention that if there is a third batman, he wouldn't be returning, but dark knight made 1 bill dollars, so why not make a needless third so he could make money. i might be wrong, but thats called selling out.....
@malows1234 If youtube allowed posting links I would post a link where he talks about it because you literally do not know what you are talking about.
@thelatestttplague even nolan said he wasn't even intending to make a second. he said it in countless interviews. and why the hell is he producing superman? to make money of course. dude whatever genius he had, which i admit that he was a dam good filmmaker. he is now a hollywood toy, much like michael bay and james cameron, maybe slightly better but he is among them. if you dont think making a trilogy of comic book movies is not selling out then you dont know what selling out is.
@malows1234 Selling out is when you're sacrificing your art/craft solely for the sake of making money. To me, Nolan has not done that yet. Yes, he has taken on bigger projects to make money(because that's what grown men with families to feed do.) but he has not compromised himself in the process of doing so. In all of his films he has maintained his Auteur presence. I don't see what your big problem with money is, you act like he is whoring himself out to make bad movies. He makes good films man
@thelatestttplague man you make it sound like scorsese has trouble feeding his family....... i am just saying, i was one of the people who loved nolan, and might i not that back in the early 2000's nolan was the only contemporary filmmaker i would even put in the same breath as paul thomas anderson. i love memento and insomnia, and its so fucking stupid that he gets fame and accliam for crap like inception. if you really understood the genius of memento, you would know inception is just for kids
@malows1234 In my humble opinion, you seem like a pretentious douche bag. That's just me being completely frank though. Yes, I do I love and understand the genius of Memento. That is literally my 5th favorite film of ALL TIME. However, unlike you I don't feel that films aren't as good because they are "big budget" or "mainstream" or "popular" or whatever your silly complaints are. Inception is good, this is a fact. The Dark Knight is good, this is also a fact. Nothing else should matter.
@thelatestttplague . i call anyone making these kid's movies a sellout. nolan did sell his ambition, he said so himself in a interview with del toro. he wanted to have blood when the bank manager was shot, but WB said that wud make the movie R, so he recut the film, instead of quitting and calling himself off the project as that is what scorsese did for taxi driver. infact scorsese is on record saying that he wanted to kill the studio execs for asking him to cut the taxi driver finale = ARTIST.
@malows1234 "i call anyone making these kid's movies a sellout" Okay, now you are just being ridiculous. I really wanted to listen to your points but you are either 1. a complete snob or 2. one of the most well thought out trolls I have seen on the internet. Either way, it seems that you are completely incapable of using reasonable logic to participate in a relatively intelligent discussion. By the way, Scorsese's next film is going to be a kid's movie IN 3D. I guess he is a sell out too..
@thelatestttplague ya scorsese is a sellout, and it makes me fucking sad because i loved him so dam much, and now i no longer can respect him. watever i still love the scorsese who made taxi driver. and you didn't respond to nolan recutting the film to get rid of the blood. when scorsese fought it, and didn't get rid of the blood. isn't that making a artistic compromise, because seeing sonmeone bleed is such a gut wrenching emotion...... any response.
@malows1234 In Taxi Driver Scorscese had to saturate the film to make the blood less red to pass for a R-rating. And we love it today.
Sometimes compromises work. Harrison Ford famously told George Lucas that "You can write this shit, but you can't say it out loud." Like most writers Lucas was adamant with actors sticking with the script, but he trusted his friends and the the original trilogy changed movies forever.
With the prequels he had his way, and look how those turned out.
@thelatestttplague why the hell did nolan compromise his vision and cut out the blood from dark knight, if he is a artist? artists dont compromise. only careerists do that. but i geuss you dont want to answer the question because i am right?
@malows1234 I'm not answering your question because you're fucking dense and clearly do not live in the real word... He is an artist but like Aronofsky says "half of the film industry is politics" You often have to compromise to get your film made. Thousands of directors have done this before Nolan and thousands more will after him. If you can't see how or why WB would want to take blood out of scene in a BATMAN movie(a film that millions of little kids will see) you are insane.
@thelatestttplague ya, but darren aronofsky never cut any of his films EVER. when Requiem for a Dream got a nc-17, he fought with the financers and released the movie nc-17, and he said that he believed it compromise the integrity of the film if he toned down the bleak imagery. the film didn't make that much money. if aronofsky can take a nc-17 ( box office death note). i think nolan should at least have the balls to handle an R. and please dont compare aronofsky to nolan, makes nolan look bad.
@malows1234 I didn't compare anyone????? I was just quoting him where I thought it was appropriate... I'm pretty much done with this little debate though. While you have the right ideas about somethings, you have a tunnel vision view about how things work in the real world and this prevents you from seeing ANYTHING with any sort of logic behind it. Get a grip man.
@thelatestttplague look man your telling me that a darren aronofsky is willing to take a nc-17. but nolan can't handle a R? you know there are a lot of highly sucessful R films right? your telling me a director like nolan who at that point made 2 hits for warner brothers can't even put up a fight? is this for real? nolan just took it up the ass from warner brothers. it bothers me that the bank manager gets shot 8 times, and there is not one fuking blood stain. he just falls down. you agree?
@malows1234 I think you skipped the part where I said I'm done... I have no problem debating my opinion and discussing thing intelligently with people who have brains but those who don't, not so much.
@malows1234 Nolan never said he wasn't making more in between either Begins or TDK. He only said he wasn't sure about returning, and will only make another Batman movie if he could come up with a worthwhile story.
@DoctorWeeTodd he stated before the release of dark knight that he is done with the batman, he wanted to go make his howard hughes biopic that he couldn't make a long time ago. the only reason he didn't was because the dark knight made 1 billion dollars and basically he wanted in on the profits. just saying....... i would have respected him more if he went on to make his howard hughes bio[pic.
@malows1234 Maybe I'm not the best person here to give an unbiased viewpoint on Nolan since I'm a fanboy of his, and loved every single one of his films. (Fincher comes close but he still made Alien 3, but he was young and picked up a bad project.) But I'm good with facts, because I've always check his news.
He never definitively said he was done with Batman before the release of TDK. He only voiced doubts that he was returning.
@DoctorWeeTodd i am sure the billion dollars made nolan erase those doubts and run after the juicy paycheck warner brothers offered him. secondly nolan made a bad film as well "prestige' while the film itself is good, the last 10 minutes of retardedness causes disqualification. nolan sure knows how to fuck it up in the last 5 minutes. prestige is nolan's aliens 3. and malick has made only masterpeices. no nolan/fincher film come close to the greatness of a malick film. thats the truth.
@DoctorWeeTodd no not really, the movie is suppose to be about the blow your mind part of the magic trick, yet when the film reaches it's prestige, your just like blah......... because the ending tries to hard to blow your mind, but it just doesn't because its so unbelivably convoluted that your just disengaged.
@malows1234 nolan doesnt care about money, and malick is amazing, but so is nolan. and he has not made a bad film. and nolan does have masterpieces. you're an idiot.
@cr33pyGamer nolan doesn't care about money hence the reason he is making batman 3? or he doesn't care about money, yet he is producing another superhero blockbuster called superman? yup seems to me like he cares quite a bit about money. inception is not a masterpeice.
@malows1234 you're fucking retarded, he's making The Dark Knight Rises because he wants to FINISH THE STORY. Inception is a masterpiece, and so is The Dark Knight, and Memento. get your head out of your ass kid
@cr33pyGamer oh i am the child, here you are on the internet calling some kiddy bullshit summer blockbusters about people jumping through dreams, but has nothing to say about the world we live in, or any message to give. not even a metaphorical message really.... but i am sure you like most of the dumbed down audience of this world enjoy that crap. go on and enjoy it. i will enjoy purer artists like kubrick and kurosawa
@malows1234 There's no need to be such a condescending, supercilious a-hole. "Purer artists"? What does that even mean? Malick, Nolan, and Fincher all make equally "pure" art; maybe you are inferring that thematically Malick's work is more heavy-handed than other's, in which case you would be correct.
Still, that doesn't make you or your opinion any more superior to someone that enjoyed Inception (which, by the way, is an incredible film). I know this is the internetz, but grow up a little.
@malows1234 no metaphor? you mean besides the fact that he based this movie off of his family and filmmaking experience, and besides the deep philosophy throughout the whole film? just because a movie makes money doesn't mean its dumb. grow the fuck up.
@malows1234 Don't lump Kubrick or Malick in with Kurosawa. Kurosawa is extremely over rated (aside from Thron of blood) all his film are good but not works of art Masaki Kobayashi is much better. If want really artist try Andrei Tarkosky or Ingmar Bergman. Its stuck up people like you that give the people who love art cinema a bad name. Is Nolan on par with Kubrick or Malick? hell no but he's a dam good director and you can say he sucks when you make a film better than his best.
@onepiecefan74 man kurosawa made ran and rashomon, those 2 films are the definition of pure artistic brilliance, that said, i will have to say that his other films are overrated, but 2 of his films make him a great artist. Ingmar bergman is a great, in fact he is as a pure a artist as ever could be found, i love wild strawberries the most of his films. now i dont call nolan a bad director, i just say he is overrated, he has paul thomas anderson who is basically 100000 times better than him.
@malows1234 Dang I forgot about Ran! That one was really good. I think there's a difference between movie making and movie art. Nolan isn't making art he's making film in a traditional structure so he shouldn't be compared and I wouldn't compare him to Malick or Kubrick. More like Spielberg, Tarantino, and Scott to which I think he holds his own. If you like Bergman you should really check out Tarkosky, Bergman called him the greatest filmmaker of all time.
@onepiecefan74 YA TOTALLY nolan is in the leagues of spielberg and cameron, not in the leagues of true artists. and i have seen solaris and i think its a great tarkovsky film, haven't seen his others, but you seem like a knowledgable guy, so i will check them out. you see i am not bashing nolan himself, i am bashing all the morons who call the greatest living director ever. cause he is not. and by the way what do you think of paul anderson, he really is our next great filmmaking artist.....
@malows1234 Well Malick is my favorite living artist. I have only seen there will be blood (meaning to see the rest this month) so I can't really say but if his other work is that good then I would say yes. I really don't see another artist truly emerging. I was hoping with "memento" and his student film "following" Nolan might be one but he's gone down a different road.
@onepiecefan74 darren aronofsky and paul anderson, are pretty good. paul anderson is better but. ya your right nolan has gone a different path. the money ruined him, i wish he never touched that batman franchise, cause then he would have never gone down the wrong road. but watever... its just sorta sad is all. like everyone loved spielberg back in his day, and still respect him, but he doesn't get the respect that malick kubrick or scorsese does. nolan will be the same way in 20 years.
@malows1234 Excuse me, "nolan is overrated"? shutup you hipster, just because his movies and himself are mainstream doesn't mean you can hate on him, he makes BRILLIANT movies there's no denying that. Besides if you're trying to be anti-mainstream and all hipster, being hipster has become mainstream too....just saying.
@Griffindorkiwi he is fking overrated. if he gets more praise than paul thomas anderson and doesn't obviously make better films than paul thomas anderson, it pretty much means nolan is overrated. that is the definition of overrated. when someone gets more praise than a peer who makes way way way better films then them. really i dont give a shit for nolan, he can go direct his popcorn blockbusters, everyone knows he is a fanboi comic-con director anyways. most people who are mature know that....
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i found this movie pretty boring but refreshing at the same time
strange...anyway Good luck in the oscar...
I wrote a piece of music for this movie.
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saturnianmusic 2 days ago
The Emperor Has No Clothes. This movie really isn't all that good.
MrQuaker62 3 weeks ago
@MrQuaker62 Cool story, bro.
PIPhilMarlowe 1 week ago
best cinematography ever. Refreshing ideas of movie industry!
Original music for The Tree of Life
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saturnianmusic 3 weeks ago
Why is Fincher considered higher brow than Nolan? Fincher is mostly known for his intensely genre-confined crime films, while Nolan is not only an accomplished directer who popularized the notion of taking action films seriously, he also writes all of his own stuff.
Jonmad17 1 month ago
Fincher seems kinda twisted in his choice of content. Loses points in my book. Brilliant? I think so. I think Jack The Ripper may have been very clever too. I guess he's like the Jack The Ripper of movie-making. Seriously, why do people put certain things up on the screen? World isn't screwed up enough? I'll go with Nolan any day, and Malick here? I'm simply dying to see this film.
Bimfirestarter 1 month ago
I love Nolan, but he's nowhere near Fincher.
menano182 1 month ago
@menano182 agree! not even close.
thejhornerfactor 1 week ago
Considering both backgrounds, I get Fincher being there but I don't get why Nolan is commenting on a Terrence Malick film.
mechaworks 1 month ago
@mechaworks eh, i sort of see nolan as a younger fincher, maybe slightly ahead of the game for his age. if you think about it it matches up. se7en, memento. fight club, insomnia. i don't know. just give nolan another 10 years, he'll be rackin up the oscar nominations.
theracoonofjake 1 month ago
This film makes no missteps, but the way the whole thing is made is a mistake. To anyone who has seen it, you know exactly what I'm saying. It tests your patience, it follows too loose of a narrative, and yet it is... perfect.
FilmsByFerguson 1 month ago
The hollywood scene...
tsm767 1 month ago
Nolan is a great storyteller and memento and the prestige were two great films, but with the dark knight and inception he kind of sold himselfnto
tsm767 1 month ago
Very good movie
But I think I liked the new Alvin & The Chipmunks one better .
Both great films .
CanadianChronic2121 2 months ago
@CanadianChronic2121 Obvious troll is blatantly obvious
CaptainMorganThe3rd 2 months ago
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lol =P
CanadianChronic2121 1 month ago
@CanadianChronic2121 agreed
kevin71127 1 month ago
I am a huge fan of Malick and of course Fincher and Nolan being that I am going 2 film school next year I think Malick's films are the kind of films I want to make, Im tired of the same stupid hollywood rom coms and remakes and sequels and prequels......
65g4 2 months ago
@65g4 if you hate sequels and prequels, why the hell do you like nolan, cause thats all he has been making. actually thts pretty much all he makes, inception is straight thru and thru summer blockbuster action popcorn flick, and then the batman movies. either you hate hollywood type films and nolan, or you like them both. dont sound hypocritical. cause nolan makes popcorn "hollywood" flicks thru and thru. its wat he does undeniably. so pick a side.
malows1234 1 month ago in playlist NOLAN
@malows1234 Nolan does what hardly anyone else solidly can: he makes movies with immense depth that still sell like crazy. No I'm not a stupid fanboy, I study philosophy so I tend to think about things from time to time. Am I an authority on film? Hell no! Can I reasonably make a solid argumentation that Nolan isn't Hollywood like for example Bay? Hell yes! Nolan broke with memento and there was NOTHING hollywood about it. He doesn't like Hollywood, Hollywood likes him.
Redspy27 1 month ago 18
@Redspy27 ok nolan is an alrite director, not bad, acceptable. but he ain't no kubrick. thats a fact of life.
kubrick worked on another level.watever depth nolan's films carried pale in comparison to the interim of 2001. thats for sure.
malows1234 1 month ago
@Redspy27 nolan doesn't like hollywood, yet a third comic book studio popcorn selling blockbuster being made by nolan. seems like he loves hollywood. particularly the juicy paycheck and space mansions warner brothers keeps giving him.
malows1234 1 month ago
@malows1234 pretty sure he's talking more style, material, less rewards, benefits. his batmans are not fuckin tim burton's batmans. tim burton's were rad, don't get me wrong, but seriously, take a look at both of their batman's back to back and tell me that one didn't make memento and one didn't make edward scissorhands. am i right?
theracoonofjake 1 month ago
@Redspy27 didn't spielberg or kubrick do that? make artsy films with huge depth while getting an almost massive box office? i mean Kubrick's clockwork orange was warn. bros. 2nd highest grossing film at that time, and mind you clockwork orange was rated nc17 and kubrick pulled it out of theaters before it had a long time. so nolan's not the only one.
malows1234 3 weeks ago
i remember seeing "the thin red line" and felt an immediate connection to "memento" and "inception". it is particularly apparent in the flashback scenes with leonard shelby and his wife in memento and dom and mal in inception. they look very much like the scenes with ben chaplin and his wife back home in |the thin red line. strong visual similarities but also content wise.
rotemnet 2 months ago in playlist NOLAN
whole movie that is. It really questions God and why do bad things happen, beginning of time, etc..
Gitsie007 2 months ago
This movie was visually stunning and I loved the music. I did not understand it at first but after watching the whole, I got it.
Gitsie007 2 months ago
You people need to get your facts straight, Nolan never said that he was never going to make another Batman film after The Dark Knight if you actually read his interviews he was waiting for a good story to come about. PLUS inception was always going to be the film that came after The Dark Knight. Another thing is that All the directors you people are talking about are all good directors no reason why we as an audience cant like them all.
Mizu40k 2 months ago
For people who believe that Nolan is crazy, there are a few scenes from Memento, and Inception that have Malick's influence in them. The scene in Memento where he thinks about his wife definitely has influences from Malick.
lnmissgreen 2 months ago
Weird, I didn't notice any Malick in "The Dark Knight". Nolan must have been on something during this interview.
kimifan1989 2 months ago
@kimifan1989 Roger that. Or for that matter in The Prestige, Inception, Batman Begins, Insomnia and Memento. I think he just got approached by someone influential for this interview and didn't know how to say 'No'. Now if Nolan were talking about Michael Mann or Ridley Scott, then yeah. Malick and Chris Nolan, hell no!
DingBatYeah 2 months ago
i would not say that there are evident similarities between the work of malick and nolan, malick is unique as kubrick was. nolan handles narrative better than any other director i know, which malick clearly doesn't give as much emphasis in comparison to his visual focus. the tree of life was brilliant, but i was hoping it's message would be more clear, so i could relax and enjoy the film rather than laboring my mind searching for purpose.
williamjamesleng 2 months ago
Gaston, you say this movie lacks.....depth?? It may be lacking in areas...but not in that.
avedic 3 months ago
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The tree of life.. quote "Someday we'll fall down and weep.And we'll understand it all,all things...UNIVERSE(all 1)my idea for your life from non life.you are telling me from absolutely nothing came a thing called GOD,then he made the whole universe and everything in it,what would he made everything from himself....am i wrong...i don't think so!
IMINTHEMOMENTRU 3 months ago 2
BADLANDS
DAYS OF HEAVEN
THE THIN RED LINE
3 Masterpieces..... But "The tree of Life" I didn't like it at all, too much imagery and not enough of anything else.. Which works in 2001 A SPACE ODDYSEY but not so much in this film. 6/10 for me.
DonRMB 3 months ago
Film sent me back to the womb. Wept for 3 straight hours. Too close to my own childhood memories. Mom and dad don't know why they are married any more; little boys playing with electricity out of sheer, rural boredom. I told all my friends not to see it; it was too beautiful and authentic; I have never been more depressed by an encounter with The Void.
onedollarphilistine 3 months ago
@onedollarphilistine THIS FILM DOES NOT CHANGE MY MIND, IT DOENST TELLME SOMETHING NEW THAT I DONT KWNOW....IT ONLY SHOWS THINGS...VERY INTERESTING...BUT WITH LACK OF REAL DEEP AND MEANING!...IT IS FAR TO BE GREAT OR A MASTERPIECE!.....THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT WAS MADE TO BE MASTERPIECE...
Gaston088able 3 months ago
@Gaston088able YOU ARE USING CAPITAL LETTERS
thousandthys 2 months ago
This is one of those films that change the way you think.
SargsyanA 3 months ago
nolan and fincher, the best
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I couldn't imagine a better movie than The Tree of Life, but that's only because it's so personal to me. BUT, I'd definitely understand where it'd turn people off due to it's esotericism (sp?).
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Terrence Malick is a very inspiring filmmaker! His influence can be seen in my most recent project, a no-budget "art"/horror short film. the trailer for which can be found on my channel.
Munaswar 4 months ago
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Anyone with the dvd know the song playing during Brad Pitt's dialogue in the chapter/scene "They're closing the plant"? It's a soft piano. Just wondering, can't find it anywhere...
CharizardYoda 4 months ago
Nolans best works are The prestige and Memento. IMO! ;] TDK was ok and fun.. but i didn't care for the characters, and the "realistic" approach on the comic is total BS lol. How can Batman evr be "realistic". I really enjoyed it though even with all it's flaws. As for Inception.. I loved it. It isn't briljant or mindblowing.. but it was good. Although I didn't really care much for the characters (more then TDK though), the concept intrigued me and was executed well. as for TTOL, I'll see it ^^
STEFANvDIEST 4 months ago
does anyone know where can I find where directors talking about their inspirations other directors etc? like "Tarantino on Fincher" (in the suggestion box)
TheEL337dude 4 months ago
DAMN! I want to see this movie so much but cannot find it!!!!!!!!!!!!
3Axy10Est13 4 months ago
@3Axy10Est13 i feel sorry for you, that you havent seen it in the cinema... this is the best movie ever made
Th3PiloT1995 4 months ago
@Th3PiloT1995 it wasnt out around where I live, and i love Terrence Malick, Brad Pitt, and Sean Penn, and Jessica Chastain is great.
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worst movie I've seen in a long time.
endthedisease 5 months ago
SPOILER, SPOILER, SPOILER:
I saw the film but I'm still uncertain about some things...At 0:48, does that represent little Jack O'Brien coming out of his mother's whom, or is it just me?
Steelidea 5 months ago
@Steelidea that was how I saw it too. (womb)
zeroinfinit 5 months ago
One of the most perfect films I've ever seen.
BillBrolse 5 months ago 52
I have a question. I understand this film will be released on Blu Ray in the U.S this october, but does people in Europe already have it?
Steelidea 5 months ago
I haven't seen any of Terrence Malick's movies, but Christopher Nolan and David Fincher are two of my favorite directors. If they say that this movie is worth checking out, then by God I better check it out!
40Pacino 5 months ago
@40Pacino
You should try watching '' The Thin Red Line ''
texas224 5 months ago
@40Pacino If you like Nolan's and Fincher's stuff, you might not actually like Malick's movies. VERY different. Tree of Life shouldn't be the starting point, maybe "Badlands" or "Days of Heaven" or "the New World" to start with, so you get used to the cinematic style first. "thin red line" and "tree of life" are much harder to take at first.
HNCS2006 4 months ago
Full of emotional expressions and noumenon. One should be very sensitive to understand the interpretation. This movie dealt with the past and making the viewer to think about it. We are all cells, just cells, and this too shall pass.
ramalekshmans 5 months ago
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best movie ever.
philjpark 5 months ago
Where is this beautiful place at 2:13
lam1387511 5 months ago
@lam1387511 the salt flats of death valley... i've been there before. an incredible place to go
whyisthissohellish 5 months ago
One of the greatest movies ever made.
DeGroen1988 5 months ago
The Tree of Crap!
lebac 5 months ago
The Bear Jew
technetproduction 5 months ago
PLOT SPOILER: Nothing happens in this entire movie. Ever. Oh wait, I take that back, a dinosaur dies in it. Other than that, nothing else happens.
tedcantu1 5 months ago
@tedcantu1 What? Nothing happens? Love, life, loss, pain, family, god...
barcotragedia 5 months ago
@barcotragedia And you have never experienced those things in your own life? How sad.
tedcantu1 5 months ago
@tedcantu1 The reason that this movie is so great is because it's about a ordinary family with ordinary problems. But it makes you question these things in life that you normally wouldn't. Also, this entire movie is art.
NinjaZombiePenguin 5 months ago
@NinjaZombiePenguin
Every movie is art. Even the really really bad ones (unfortunately lol) ;]
STEFANvDIEST 4 months ago
SPOILER: For instance in Christopher Nolan's Insomnia there is a scene where Pacino"s character is calling a woman to inform her about her husband's death whom he actually killed, in this scene Christopher Nolan enphatises Pacino's character's nervous hands as he talks on the phone in a very delicate way...To me that's Malick all over, just to pick something. Also notice Nolan documentarish style of filmmaking and the constant use of the "Aereal Camera" taking shots of building and landscapes.
Steelidea 5 months ago
What musi cis played throughout this? stunning.
AriarchRS 5 months ago
And Fincher, that guy is great! His compositions brought the 1970s influence to a new age. He makes shots as iconic as the best of the new-Hollywood era! Seven is on par with Chinatown, Alien, and Close Encounters visually. Each frame is beautiful! Benjamin Button is as heavy and layered as Thin Red Line to me. SO all this arguing, this is why our generation sucks. We argue over things like which is better when this discussion involves three great artists.
Fragile0Still 5 months ago
I see more kinship with Aronofsky and Malick than Nolan and Malick, but Fincher has some shots similarly composed and interpreted. Alot of the modern film makers are more nihilistic in their approach. But damn, all this hate on Nolan is sickening. You say Badlands and Days of Heaven are brilliant, which they are. But Dark Knight made comic book adaptations viable and fresh and realistic. Dark Knight and Inception should quell such harsh and unwarranted criticism.
Fragile0Still 5 months ago 37
@Fragile0Still no. it stems from the popular idea that nolan is the best of them. even though hes technically masterful, his films lack something. i don't know if its the characters or the stories but they always seem flat. nolans films are more about the spectacle and clever. the charaters seem to be there to fill the ideas, very difficult to pull off.
i think the best new age director out there is paul thomas anderson. or the coens.
matthewmch 5 months ago
@matthewmch Yea, you're right about Nolan in a way - there is some soul lacking because he is preoccupied with clever storytelling and spectacle. But you can't have it all, really. If you took out some of the twists and set pieces and were left with the characters they would probably seem to have more meaning suddenly. A single explosion can impact the tone and focus of the entire thing because it plays with the balance of what is important in the film's world.
jcarrig 4 months ago
@Fragile0Still Well, I havent read the comments enough to see the Nolan hate, but in regards to Nolan and Malick I think people will see more of Malick in Memento, particularly in the flashback scene where he is in the diner remembering his wife, there is voice over images of his wife in their home. In this one scene I see more of Malick than in Aronofsky, Fincher, or anyone else, it is pretty much a direct rip off of his style.
jcarrig 4 months ago
@Fragile0Still and PS, I think Nolan is one of the genius' in cinema at the moment, but I think it is a shame his motives are so populist, I think he made better movies when he had less money!
jcarrig 4 months ago
@Fragile0Still Shut up. "Dark Knight" is just another action film, nothing important came from it. "Inception" was a simple concept made out to be some incredibly deep film. It's about going inside a dream, and then in another dream and then in another dream etc.. if you can't follow that concept then you're a fucking idiot.
INGOWIZRD 4 months ago
@Fragile0Still If you rewatch Nolan's movies the way he uses the handheld camera and the way he rarely uses artificial lights is probably the thing that makes him close to Mallick. Also Memento is probably Nolan's closest movie.
Ridley44Lev 4 months ago
@Fragile0Still beautifully said.
bldubl 4 months ago
@Fragile0Still actually i would say nolans earlier work is what is great about him. the dark knight is a ridiculous plot-hole ridden disappointment, and inception is very overrated. memento and the prestige are what should quell harsh criticism.
hblaisauce 3 months ago
@hblaisauce You're so ridiculous. Let me guess, you don't like anything that's too mainstream. Or is it because you just couldn't put the pieces together in "The Dark Knight."
MarcusKiner 2 months ago
Here Here Inception was amazing and people said it was overrated they are either ignorant of have seen so many movies they can't like anything new
65g4 2 months ago
BTW I loved The Dark Knight also
65g4 2 months ago
@Fragile0Still I applaud your defense of Nolan, but he's made quite a few more movies than TDK and Inception that justify him as a great director. In fact, he simply has no bad movie. Insomnia is probably the least depthful, but even that movie was pretty well done. People forget that Fincher for example has been in the business for so much longer and has made so much more movies. Nolan's been here since 2000, with 7 movies and look where he's at, he's right there next to Fincher.
Redspy27 1 month ago 2
Does this movie and "The Fountain" have anything in common? i can feel some connection, but cant put my finger on it..
rahulerai 5 months ago
@rahulerai
both are about the meaning of life and death (and many other existential and philosophical subplots) .
the fountain is better.
MySweetSeoul 5 months ago
@MySweetSeoul ooh... I havent watched this movie yet.. But i have high hopes!
rahulerai 5 months ago
@rahulerai
keep in mind that it's just my opinion. You could enjoy "the tree of life" much more than "the fountain", everyone has a different taste so don't take my word for it haha :D
MySweetSeoul 5 months ago
this film was shit, even Sean Penn agrees
AwesomeSauce069 5 months ago
@AwesomeSauce069 Are you crazy man? You had a nightmare.
claudiavantacich 5 months ago
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@AwesomeSauce069 @AwesomeSauce069 I´m sure Sean Penn is an intelligent person, so... you are lying. But even if he had not enjoyed it, are you saying that the opinion of Sean Penn is more credible than Nolan's and Fincher, and the most intelligent and dignified world cinema criticals, like the ones who gave the Cannes TOP prize to this film?
If you think that, you are crazy.
claudiavantacich 5 months ago
@AwesomeSauce069 Maybe you didi not undertand the metaphors and the message...
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The best film of the new millennium. In 10 years, this will go down as one of the greatest of all time. All great works of art take time to permeate.
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Saw it on Saturday with 5 other friends it was great loved it , when u watch the trailer it looks crap but wen ur there watching it its soo amazing. You can find it on fillmsi.co.cc by the way. Great film.
CynthiaOwenh 6 months ago
It's not SPAM! it's my answer to your question, TheManwithNoName103. I love Kubrick, specially the “Clockwork Orange” and love Hitchcock too, but they never made a movie about this subject! “Clock Orange” was about the society:It shows how the society creates “monsters” and the crimes the society commits to get rid of them. The Tree of Life talks about US:Human Beings. About our deep questions and feelings and how we turn in cynical human beings...Requires a lot more introspection to get it!
claudiavantacich 6 months ago
christopher nolan, i love you!
I love Malick too!
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in my opinion, Malick is nothing compared to Kubrick or Hitchcock. NOTHING
TheManwithNoName103 6 months ago
@TheManwithNoName103 That's because Maliick is a great philosopher. That's why you don't like it: you don't understan his metaphors. This is not a movie for common people. It's made to people who can and likes to think. You must interpret the matephors to understand this movie.
claudiavantacich 6 months ago 10
@claudiavantacich so you're saying the films of Kubrick and Hitchcock are straightforward, simple, and contain no deeper meaning?
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manitas1008 6 months ago 3
@claudiavantacich what a loud of tripe.'not for common people' pull your head out of your ass. those stupid voice over snippets. they weren't clever they wern't even pretentious. just lazy writing. and another thing whats to think about? family, grace, nature, death, god, heaven. u dont need a silver enema to understand those themes. my fav fillm is 2001. similar but there was ambiguity there. in TTOL the message is very clear and in fact VERY SIMPLE. ur not a smarter person for liking it.
matthewmch 5 months ago
@claudiavantacich THE FILM IS GOOD BUT FLAWED , IS FRESH, WITH BIUTIFUL IMAGES AND INTERESTING WAY TO PORTRAY LIFE FROM THE FILMAKER. BUT THIS ISENT GREAT! MALICK SOMETIMES USE SOMETHINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER THAT IT IS ALMOUST TO GET STUPID! (THE CAMERA MOVES AND THE MOTHER ONLY SEEMS TO PLAY WITH HIS CHILDREEN) BUT WHaT MORE IT SHOWS?IT DOENST HAVE A REAL DEEP THIS FILM....MALICK SPEND SO MUCH TIME TRYING TO SHOWS LIFE...THAT THE CHARACTERS LOOKS CARTOONS, ARE BIDIMENTIONAL!
Gaston088able 3 months ago
That naturalism is definitely evident in Chris Nolan's work.
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earthy075 6 months ago
It's obvious that Nolan is a filmmaker more interested in editing, structure, plot, and arch. His movies are more dramatic than Malick's, which clearly have interest in spiritual concepts far vaster than the goings-on of the plot. Face it, though, there is no agreement when it comes to art. Art is always very personal, for both the audience and the artist, so you will not find a consensus. You are not right in calling Malick better. Nolan has had ten years. Malick has had fifty.
SeekerInTheSchy 6 months ago
@SeekerInTheSchy Christopher Nolan has already resigned himself to a very genre-like style of filmmaking. To say that he has the potential to make artful films like Terrence Malick's is to inflate Nolan's ego and to disservice Malick's artistry.
cw6391 6 months ago 2
@cw6391 First of all, all films fit into a genre. Malick has done a road movie (Badlands), a romantic drama (Days of Heaven), a war film (Thin Red Line), a historical epic (New World), and a family drama (Tree of Life). Now, is it a disservice to relegate these to templates? Obviously, yes. Is Memento just a film noir? The Prestige a historical drama? The Batman movies just action films? Is Inception just a heist flick? I disagree on all counts. There is no shame in genre filmmaking.
SeekerInTheSchy 6 months ago
@cw6391 Furthermore, I struggle to see what ego you are afraid of feeding. It's clear that the man thinks he is making a higher class of filmmaking than what is commonly being put out by Hollywood today, but he's right. Why do you prefer to put down Nolan for his success? Malick may be pushing the boundaries of film, and I love his movies, but he does so by avoiding plot in favor of naturalist imagery.
SeekerInTheSchy 6 months ago
what is the piece playing in the background? I thought i heard it was Mahler but it kinda sounds Desplat esque.
hTzPersian 6 months ago in playlist Cinema
@hTzPersian You're right, it's Desplat's. It's the track "River" from the original score.
Grissha 6 months ago
Nolan and Fincher are superbly great filmmakers. However Malick is a god of cinema. In my opinion there isn't one director in the world today who comes close to Malick's impecable genius.
tisbutafleshwound 6 months ago
God, "The Tree of Life" was such a unique, powerful, profound, beautiful movie, the kind that haunts you for some time after you see it. I honestly, and without smugness, feel bad for the people who couldn't get into it and see into the heart of it. Then, combine that with Fincher and Nolan, two of the most interesting filmmakers of their generation - great video.
Ashiman12 6 months ago
MOARR!!!
greypilgrim26 7 months ago
the only reason this film won at cannes was because melancholia was disqualified by Lars' nazi jokes, and the French are sensitive to that simply because they gave up the jews in WWII.
neuefilms 7 months ago
I WANT TO SEEEEE THIISSSS!!!
akanathan 7 months ago
Kubrick
The Rest
sammyh1982 7 months ago
Nolan - GOD
Fincher - LEGEND
Malick - GENIUS
michaelmoviemaker 7 months ago
@michaelmoviemaker are you fucking kidding me. the way you say it, you make sound like nolan is the greatest director, which he is not. maybe if he stops with the summer blockbusters, and makes masterful stuff like memento. but i am sure nolan just enjoys masturbating to the stacks of cash that warner brothers offered him to make a completely unnecsary third sequel. but i agree about fincher and malick being awesome.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 1st. Blockbuster movies =|= bad movies. Nolan and plenty of directors before him have proved this. As long as a film is GOOD why should the fact that it's a "summer blockbuster" change anything? 2nd TDKR is necessary because it's called a "trilogy" for a reason. It was always intended for him to make 3, WB wanted more but Nolan doesn't want to make anymore after the 3rd film. 3rd Nolan IS a god, one of the better new directors for sure. 4th stop being so pretentious
thelatestttplague 7 months ago 4
@thelatestttplague you have no idea what you speak off, since nolan didn't intend it to be a trilogy ever. He didn't even want to make the second one, he only did it because batman begins made tons of money, thirdly he said after the second one was done, before the release he said in convention that if there is a third batman, he wouldn't be returning, but dark knight made 1 bill dollars, so why not make a needless third so he could make money. i might be wrong, but thats called selling out.....
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 If youtube allowed posting links I would post a link where he talks about it because you literally do not know what you are talking about.
thelatestttplague 7 months ago
@thelatestttplague even nolan said he wasn't even intending to make a second. he said it in countless interviews. and why the hell is he producing superman? to make money of course. dude whatever genius he had, which i admit that he was a dam good filmmaker. he is now a hollywood toy, much like michael bay and james cameron, maybe slightly better but he is among them. if you dont think making a trilogy of comic book movies is not selling out then you dont know what selling out is.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 Selling out is when you're sacrificing your art/craft solely for the sake of making money. To me, Nolan has not done that yet. Yes, he has taken on bigger projects to make money(because that's what grown men with families to feed do.) but he has not compromised himself in the process of doing so. In all of his films he has maintained his Auteur presence. I don't see what your big problem with money is, you act like he is whoring himself out to make bad movies. He makes good films man
thelatestttplague 7 months ago
@thelatestttplague man you make it sound like scorsese has trouble feeding his family....... i am just saying, i was one of the people who loved nolan, and might i not that back in the early 2000's nolan was the only contemporary filmmaker i would even put in the same breath as paul thomas anderson. i love memento and insomnia, and its so fucking stupid that he gets fame and accliam for crap like inception. if you really understood the genius of memento, you would know inception is just for kids
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 In my humble opinion, you seem like a pretentious douche bag. That's just me being completely frank though. Yes, I do I love and understand the genius of Memento. That is literally my 5th favorite film of ALL TIME. However, unlike you I don't feel that films aren't as good because they are "big budget" or "mainstream" or "popular" or whatever your silly complaints are. Inception is good, this is a fact. The Dark Knight is good, this is also a fact. Nothing else should matter.
thelatestttplague 7 months ago
@thelatestttplague . i call anyone making these kid's movies a sellout. nolan did sell his ambition, he said so himself in a interview with del toro. he wanted to have blood when the bank manager was shot, but WB said that wud make the movie R, so he recut the film, instead of quitting and calling himself off the project as that is what scorsese did for taxi driver. infact scorsese is on record saying that he wanted to kill the studio execs for asking him to cut the taxi driver finale = ARTIST.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 "i call anyone making these kid's movies a sellout" Okay, now you are just being ridiculous. I really wanted to listen to your points but you are either 1. a complete snob or 2. one of the most well thought out trolls I have seen on the internet. Either way, it seems that you are completely incapable of using reasonable logic to participate in a relatively intelligent discussion. By the way, Scorsese's next film is going to be a kid's movie IN 3D. I guess he is a sell out too..
thelatestttplague 7 months ago
@thelatestttplague ya scorsese is a sellout, and it makes me fucking sad because i loved him so dam much, and now i no longer can respect him. watever i still love the scorsese who made taxi driver. and you didn't respond to nolan recutting the film to get rid of the blood. when scorsese fought it, and didn't get rid of the blood. isn't that making a artistic compromise, because seeing sonmeone bleed is such a gut wrenching emotion...... any response.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 In Taxi Driver Scorscese had to saturate the film to make the blood less red to pass for a R-rating. And we love it today.
Sometimes compromises work. Harrison Ford famously told George Lucas that "You can write this shit, but you can't say it out loud." Like most writers Lucas was adamant with actors sticking with the script, but he trusted his friends and the the original trilogy changed movies forever.
With the prequels he had his way, and look how those turned out.
DoctorWeeTodd 7 months ago
@thelatestttplague why the hell did nolan compromise his vision and cut out the blood from dark knight, if he is a artist? artists dont compromise. only careerists do that. but i geuss you dont want to answer the question because i am right?
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 I'm not answering your question because you're fucking dense and clearly do not live in the real word... He is an artist but like Aronofsky says "half of the film industry is politics" You often have to compromise to get your film made. Thousands of directors have done this before Nolan and thousands more will after him. If you can't see how or why WB would want to take blood out of scene in a BATMAN movie(a film that millions of little kids will see) you are insane.
thelatestttplague 7 months ago
@thelatestttplague ya, but darren aronofsky never cut any of his films EVER. when Requiem for a Dream got a nc-17, he fought with the financers and released the movie nc-17, and he said that he believed it compromise the integrity of the film if he toned down the bleak imagery. the film didn't make that much money. if aronofsky can take a nc-17 ( box office death note). i think nolan should at least have the balls to handle an R. and please dont compare aronofsky to nolan, makes nolan look bad.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 I didn't compare anyone????? I was just quoting him where I thought it was appropriate... I'm pretty much done with this little debate though. While you have the right ideas about somethings, you have a tunnel vision view about how things work in the real world and this prevents you from seeing ANYTHING with any sort of logic behind it. Get a grip man.
thelatestttplague 7 months ago
@thelatestttplague look man your telling me that a darren aronofsky is willing to take a nc-17. but nolan can't handle a R? you know there are a lot of highly sucessful R films right? your telling me a director like nolan who at that point made 2 hits for warner brothers can't even put up a fight? is this for real? nolan just took it up the ass from warner brothers. it bothers me that the bank manager gets shot 8 times, and there is not one fuking blood stain. he just falls down. you agree?
malows1234 7 months ago
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@malows1234 I think you skipped the part where I said I'm done... I have no problem debating my opinion and discussing thing intelligently with people who have brains but those who don't, not so much.
thelatestttplague 7 months ago
@thelatestttplague *things
thelatestttplague 7 months ago
@malows1234 Nolan never said he wasn't making more in between either Begins or TDK. He only said he wasn't sure about returning, and will only make another Batman movie if he could come up with a worthwhile story.
DoctorWeeTodd 7 months ago
@DoctorWeeTodd he stated before the release of dark knight that he is done with the batman, he wanted to go make his howard hughes biopic that he couldn't make a long time ago. the only reason he didn't was because the dark knight made 1 billion dollars and basically he wanted in on the profits. just saying....... i would have respected him more if he went on to make his howard hughes bio[pic.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 Maybe I'm not the best person here to give an unbiased viewpoint on Nolan since I'm a fanboy of his, and loved every single one of his films. (Fincher comes close but he still made Alien 3, but he was young and picked up a bad project.) But I'm good with facts, because I've always check his news.
He never definitively said he was done with Batman before the release of TDK. He only voiced doubts that he was returning.
DoctorWeeTodd 7 months ago
@DoctorWeeTodd i am sure the billion dollars made nolan erase those doubts and run after the juicy paycheck warner brothers offered him. secondly nolan made a bad film as well "prestige' while the film itself is good, the last 10 minutes of retardedness causes disqualification. nolan sure knows how to fuck it up in the last 5 minutes. prestige is nolan's aliens 3. and malick has made only masterpeices. no nolan/fincher film come close to the greatness of a malick film. thats the truth.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 You only saw the trick in the ending, and not the technique. There was more than meets the eye to that movie.
DoctorWeeTodd 7 months ago
@DoctorWeeTodd no not really, the movie is suppose to be about the blow your mind part of the magic trick, yet when the film reaches it's prestige, your just like blah......... because the ending tries to hard to blow your mind, but it just doesn't because its so unbelivably convoluted that your just disengaged.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 nolan doesnt care about money, and malick is amazing, but so is nolan. and he has not made a bad film. and nolan does have masterpieces. you're an idiot.
cr33pyGamer 7 months ago
@cr33pyGamer nolan doesn't care about money hence the reason he is making batman 3? or he doesn't care about money, yet he is producing another superhero blockbuster called superman? yup seems to me like he cares quite a bit about money. inception is not a masterpeice.
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 you're fucking retarded, he's making The Dark Knight Rises because he wants to FINISH THE STORY. Inception is a masterpiece, and so is The Dark Knight, and Memento. get your head out of your ass kid
cr33pyGamer 7 months ago
@cr33pyGamer oh i am the child, here you are on the internet calling some kiddy bullshit summer blockbusters about people jumping through dreams, but has nothing to say about the world we live in, or any message to give. not even a metaphorical message really.... but i am sure you like most of the dumbed down audience of this world enjoy that crap. go on and enjoy it. i will enjoy purer artists like kubrick and kurosawa
malows1234 7 months ago
@malows1234 There's no need to be such a condescending, supercilious a-hole. "Purer artists"? What does that even mean? Malick, Nolan, and Fincher all make equally "pure" art; maybe you are inferring that thematically Malick's work is more heavy-handed than other's, in which case you would be correct.
Still, that doesn't make you or your opinion any more superior to someone that enjoyed Inception (which, by the way, is an incredible film). I know this is the internetz, but grow up a little.
killeraddiction 7 months ago
@malows1234 no metaphor? you mean besides the fact that he based this movie off of his family and filmmaking experience, and besides the deep philosophy throughout the whole film? just because a movie makes money doesn't mean its dumb. grow the fuck up.
cr33pyGamer 6 months ago
@malows1234 Don't lump Kubrick or Malick in with Kurosawa. Kurosawa is extremely over rated (aside from Thron of blood) all his film are good but not works of art Masaki Kobayashi is much better. If want really artist try Andrei Tarkosky or Ingmar Bergman. Its stuck up people like you that give the people who love art cinema a bad name. Is Nolan on par with Kubrick or Malick? hell no but he's a dam good director and you can say he sucks when you make a film better than his best.
onepiecefan74 6 months ago
@onepiecefan74 man kurosawa made ran and rashomon, those 2 films are the definition of pure artistic brilliance, that said, i will have to say that his other films are overrated, but 2 of his films make him a great artist. Ingmar bergman is a great, in fact he is as a pure a artist as ever could be found, i love wild strawberries the most of his films. now i dont call nolan a bad director, i just say he is overrated, he has paul thomas anderson who is basically 100000 times better than him.
malows1234 6 months ago
@malows1234 Dang I forgot about Ran! That one was really good. I think there's a difference between movie making and movie art. Nolan isn't making art he's making film in a traditional structure so he shouldn't be compared and I wouldn't compare him to Malick or Kubrick. More like Spielberg, Tarantino, and Scott to which I think he holds his own. If you like Bergman you should really check out Tarkosky, Bergman called him the greatest filmmaker of all time.
onepiecefan74 6 months ago
@onepiecefan74 YA TOTALLY nolan is in the leagues of spielberg and cameron, not in the leagues of true artists. and i have seen solaris and i think its a great tarkovsky film, haven't seen his others, but you seem like a knowledgable guy, so i will check them out. you see i am not bashing nolan himself, i am bashing all the morons who call the greatest living director ever. cause he is not. and by the way what do you think of paul anderson, he really is our next great filmmaking artist.....
malows1234 6 months ago
@malows1234 Well Malick is my favorite living artist. I have only seen there will be blood (meaning to see the rest this month) so I can't really say but if his other work is that good then I would say yes. I really don't see another artist truly emerging. I was hoping with "memento" and his student film "following" Nolan might be one but he's gone down a different road.
onepiecefan74 6 months ago
@onepiecefan74 darren aronofsky and paul anderson, are pretty good. paul anderson is better but. ya your right nolan has gone a different path. the money ruined him, i wish he never touched that batman franchise, cause then he would have never gone down the wrong road. but watever... its just sorta sad is all. like everyone loved spielberg back in his day, and still respect him, but he doesn't get the respect that malick kubrick or scorsese does. nolan will be the same way in 20 years.
malows1234 6 months ago
@malows1234 Excuse me, "nolan is overrated"? shutup you hipster, just because his movies and himself are mainstream doesn't mean you can hate on him, he makes BRILLIANT movies there's no denying that. Besides if you're trying to be anti-mainstream and all hipster, being hipster has become mainstream too....just saying.
Griffindorkiwi 4 months ago
@Griffindorkiwi he is fking overrated. if he gets more praise than paul thomas anderson and doesn't obviously make better films than paul thomas anderson, it pretty much means nolan is overrated. that is the definition of overrated. when someone gets more praise than a peer who makes way way way better films then them. really i dont give a shit for nolan, he can go direct his popcorn blockbusters, everyone knows he is a fanboi comic-con director anyways. most people who are mature know that....
malows1234 4 months ago