Bedini-Powered Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator

[MegaMaxemus]

Wow this is awesome. This blows all the text books I read when I was a kid out of the water.

I wonder how many coils this could drive?

[emutiny]

best use for mongoose bicycle frame

[Begbucks]

@emutiny indeed

[ImJacksAmygdala]

I always though of the 2 stage oscillator as some kind of a mechanical force diode in a way. I would look at perhaps piezoelectric devices to use in conjunction with this device and there was also this /watch?v=a49d5cJOGQ0&t=2m0s amazing flywheel that was made for a 2 stage oscillator. Check that LINK at 2 minutes!! No one has yet merged all three devices. You have the first 2 working already.

Do yourselves a favor and look at that flywheel link.

/watch?v=a49d5cJOGQ0&t=2m0s

[36nick4truth]

@ImJacksAmygdala I've seen that machine and agree. When the R&D department receives the proper funding I might be inquiring about purchasing one of those "flywheels" for experimentation. Thanks for the post.

[36nick4truth]

Thank you to everyone for the positive comments.

[chorianopoulos2002]

We are waiting for the next step: Closing the loop!

Any updates?

Chris

[justblirt]

Thanks for the post

[sMartcreations2010]

Great idea using bedini and Milkovic together! Now a electric generator that makes 12V and 0.04A and return that to the input. Then we have a perpetual mobile... I hope this will be so in the nearby future

Thanks 4 sharing

Greetz M

[36nick4truth]

It oscillates exactly the same without the coil.You have to "tune" the unit correctly first before you can add the coil. I do not understand what is causing the asymmetrical oscillations.I have got it to oscillate with a goose neck end pump at the left and right swing of the pendulum.Now the goose neck end pump happens at the bottom of the pendulum swing, same pendulum setup different spring and counterweight configurations but the pendulum is not crossing the coil fast enough to activate it

[MagnaMoRo]

Regarding slinky460's comment: the difference in the bounce when the pendulum is in or out is due mostly to push coil being mounted to the frame instead of being isolated so that it will only affect the pendulum. The wheights push back on the coil as the coil pushes the wheights.

[KyleCarrington]

That is so impressive. i wonder if you could get that thing compressing air efficiently? If so, you could do anything (including storage!) with that air.

[jiffycoil]

Brilliant work. Nice use of a bike frame too. Thank you for sharing.

[gtols11980]

Impressive work! It's comforting to see that while 100+million Americans were worried about the Super Bowl that at least one of our brighter stars was working on our future!

[rave154]

Great work, fantastic idea to use the bike frame, ready-made for it !

I noticed that your coil seems to pulse twice per swing, once on the up stroke and once on the down stroke where-as the milkovic pendulum he was only pushing with his hand once on the down stroke.

[MagnaMoRo]

Second point: the energy to accelerate the pendulum must come from an isolated point, not from the bicycle frame (second stage). It interferes with the intended range of motion.

[allnamestaken0]

This is a neat and functional design-works very smooth!

If your goal is to measure input and compare it with the output(left side), you should have something that really spends energy on the left side. Spring just stores the energy when compressed or elongated, and then gives it back.This way you cannot calculate the output.

[MagnaMoRo]

Energy must be added for acceleration of the pendulum at its highest point, to use the least possible amount of energy. According to the video, your timing pulse is fired when the pendulum is already at maximum energy level. Example: an object will fall at 32ft/s/s. So after 1 s. its falling at 32ft/s and after 2 s. its at 64 ft/s. but if you accelerate it to 64ft/s in the 1st s. and let go, how fast is it at the 2nd sec?... 96ft./s. But whats needed if you wait till 2nd s before you push?

[nannerin]

RIGHT ON! You could actually get a sterling engine attached to the spring and produce more mechanical energy - and if you place a nother coil under the weights where it move counter to the 'pendulum you cound have two pick up coils. Or you could make your pendulum mechanism a long rod perpendicular to a number of pick up coils, all you would nee to do is distribute the weights along the perpendicular rod.

Nice work.

[PNebula]

Perpetuum mobile! :)

[IMZANEdotCOM]

I have thought of this combination many times.

Bedini SSG circuit is very efficient, & Milkovic oscillator is remarkable.

I really appreciate where you have placed your coil, though i do strongly recommend an r60 core & ditch the solid iron core when possible.

As for harnessing power there a a couple of ways, maybe separately mount the rear wheel with chain attached to front of bike & spring the other end of chain, this should spin the wheels cog and then maybe add a dynamo on wheel.

[PESNetwork]

Great idea. I've just posted a feature page on this at PESWiki, search "Bedini-Powered Milkovic Two-Stage Oscillator", and I'll be creating a Yahoo!Groups discussion list for those who want to participate in this project. Feel free to update the PESWiki page with additional details. -- Sterling

[TheHoxan]

awesome combination of two independent projects.

Can you please post specs of coil and driver circuit.

Whats the mass of the pendulum?

[36nick4truth]

@TheHoxan The coil is 20awg & 21awg approx 1200 turns 400ohms added resistance on the trigger coil, solid bar iron core.I am running the SSG circuit, the one that's red and blue illustrated when you Google Bedini diagram/images. Pendulum 22lbs, front counter weight 4.4lbs