Panzer IV Panzermuseum Munster 1993

[Bohemund1111]

Wo ist der Sound? :(

[4shacks1house]

Panzer G model before the skirts. Loved the skirts.

[yarowoy64]

КРАСАВЕЦ ТАНК!!!!

[legoprime2000]

sorry für die doofe frage, aber ist des ein tiger panzer oder net? weil ausf. IV war doch tiger, oder nicht?

[dastotalebroetchen]

@legoprime2000 Nö, des is nen Pzkpfw IV, der Tiger war der Pzkpfw VI.

[dastotalebroetchen]

schade, dass er keine Seitenschürzen dran hat....mit denen sieht er Hammer aus

[TheLordZhufor]

@dastotalebroetchen die F2 serie hatte noch keine schürzen

erst ab der G serie wurden schürzen montiert

und das das hier die F2 ist sieht man an der frontpanzerung die bei der G serie mit zusätzlichen aufgenieteten panzerplatten verstärkt wurde

[dastotalebroetchen]

@TheLordZhufor Achso....danke für die Info, jetzt weis ich wieder mehr ;D

[Yoonyah]

es hätten mer Panzer IV her gestellt werden sollen. Guter Panzer !!!

[germanysjim]

damn that is nice.

[Bloodmane1987]

Is it ausführung G?

[AmYisraelCrap]

@Bloodmane1987 yes

[TheLordZhufor]

@Bloodmane1987 i think it is the F2 version. no boltet on armor plates on the front but the long 75mm cannon

[heinixxx]

Ok, geiler Panzer, aber was macht die BW -Schnarchnase da drin?

[batalion666]

stupid Germans smart Rotschilda

[Rudolf555]

no sound

[TheXenomorph1]

The Panzer IV was the backbone of the German armor divisions!

[jimmyxx3]

Shermans are too pretty to be a fearsom tank, it looks like something I'd put in my garden.

Germany has the best tanks!

They got the firepower, better armour, they even got the looks.

[Cornerless]

@jimmyxx3 But our tanks had baaaaad engines ^^

[jimmyxx3]

@Cornerless

Actually, the Panzer IV didn't break down so much, they were reliable tanks from what I've heard.

[Cornerless]

@jimmyxx3 I don't mean the Panzer IV. I mean for example the Jadgtiger. No enemy ever killed one, but his low engine made him kill himself.

[ElCreepoAustraliano]

@jimmyxx3 they were great tanks, however there was a need for a better designed and armed tank to outdo the T-34/85 and IS2 Stalin Tank (which in all respect was superior to the Tiger I, the IS2 I mean, they were monsters)

[ThePippinderGrenze]

Blitzkrieg!

[amartinjoe]

..such a good looking tank......ZE GERMANS always made the best looking ones.

[scottduncan44]

There is a balance even an elegance to the lines of the MK 4. It also used the 75mm high velocity gun which was the backbone of the German anti tank in both mobile mounts and towed guns. Even up to wars end the towed 75mm, MK 4, Stug 3's, Hetzers and Marders could all stop any but the heaviest Soviet tanks and self propelled guns.

[mendacha]

more videos please

[mark3smle]

actually the panther was alot easier to produce than a tiger or king tiger. a little more expensive than a panzer iv, but it had that sloped armor and the high velocity 75mm that had more penetrative power than the tigers 88mm. the damage from an 88 would have been worse though. once they were able to overcome those engine problems, they made over 6000 of them compared to maybe 1,500 tigers, and 500 king tigers

[jerrymail]

My favorite German Armored Vehicle with the Sturmgeschütz III

[lachgasballon]

you are all smartasses, you know a shit. you quote statistics and numbers that u read in a book and think you could predict what would happen in reality. Lol. In how many cases did a panzer4 and a sherman stood excactly face to face without moving, but already seeing each other in range 1.5-2km? On a field that is exactly planar over all the range? Approximately in 0 cases. So if a sherman appears from behind a big rock or house,l it shots on the panzer4, and all your statistics are worth a shit

[GilbMLRS]

@lachgasballon

Yes and if an asteroid strikes a pershing it is also worth a shit. Or better what if a sherman SUDDENLY OUT OF NOWHERE appeared in the Führerbunker? Man they could have won the war so easily. But let me think about it......right. How do you get a whole sherman right behind a corner of a house without disturbing an entire tank company nearby? Hmmm...oh I forgot they threw the shermans off planes and let them wait for German tanks...surely

[lachgasballon]

@GilbMLRS Da steht, dass eure statistischen Aussagen Blödsinn sind, sowas wie "Panzer x hätte alles umgerockt, das kann ja hundert meter weiter schiessen als Panzer Y". Scheisse labern, meinen man wär der große Kahuna, weil man Statistiken gefressen hat, und dann kein Plan über die Realität haben, zum Beispiel, sich über die Aussage, Feindpanzer tauchen aus dem "Nichts" (aus Sicht des Angegriffenen) auf, lustig zu machen... So jetzt wieder viel Spaß mit euren Zahlen, ihr Weiberhelden, lol...

[GilbMLRS]

Kannste mir sagen, was das mit Weiberhelden zu tun haben soll?

[lachgasballon]

@GilbMLRS oh, Verzeihung der Her, da kam wohl ein Vorurteil in mir auf, lol...wie auch immer, es bleibt wies ist, keiner hier hat irgendwas vom 2. WK mitgekriegt, hier ist ein Sammelbecken von Leuten die Bücher und Zahlentabellen auswendig gelernt haben und nun meinen irgendwelche Rückschlüsse über die Realität ziehen zu können... davon abgesehn, der kleine linke Dämon in mir sagt, es ist schlecht sich für Dinge zu faszinieren, die nur dazu da sind um Leute zu killen. Gibts keine andern Hobbys?

[GilbMLRS]

@lachgasballon

Klar gibts andere Hobbies aber meine Bonsais sind für heute verpflegt und nun hab ich ein paar Minuten um mich anderen Interessengebieten zu widmen. Was is so schlimm dran? Noch dazu stammen etliche Erfahrungen zu den Fahrzeugen aus der Praxis und wurden von Leuten gesammelt, die in den Blechdosen drinnesaßen oder sie nach dem Kriege ausführlich testeten.

Außerdem bin ich auch eher im linken Spektrum angesiedelt und interessiere mich trotzdem für Militärgeschichte. Das geht!

[hardcorecrusher12]

which tank is stronger the late panzer 4 ore the m4 sherman. by my self i think that the panzer 4 is stronger because he gots a stronger canon then the m4 sherman but weaker armor.

[lucius1976]

@hardcorecrusher12

I wouldnt say its armour was weaker. Maybe on some spots. But on other it was stronger. It depends what types you are comparing here. Early Panzer IV against early Sherman? Better compare 1943 Panzer IV against 1943 Sherman. Then its armour is propably equal. After 1943 it is more in favour of the Sherman because the Panzer IV armour could not be updated anymore after 1943 because the chassis had reached its limit by then.

[gunmetalxXx]

@hardcorecrusher12 @lucius1976 what you guys think is not important and your own opinion is wothless. only facts tell the truth. The Panzer IV was better protected than the Sherman because 80mm vertical armor is better than 38 mm sloped armor. Also, the Panzer IV had a much better gun than the Sherman.

the Panzer IV could destroy the Sherman frontally at 2,000 meters where the Sherman could destroy the Panzer IV only at 500 meters frontally. Panezr IV had better gun range and penetration too.

[hardcorecrusher12]

oke the panzer 4 is better then the early sherman tanks s but the fact remains that the shermans where much easy to produce then panzer 4s and how will the panzer 4 figth against the latest sherman? i mean the sherman firefly. the sherman firefly was lots better then the panzer 4 because it gos a better gun. a 17 pounder. with one shot the panzer 4 will be defeated.

[tanker1408]

@hardcorecrusher12 Panzer IV was also very easy to produce like SHerman and T34. Only the Heavy Panzer V and VI "Tiger" and "Panther" tanks were not easy to produce. The Sherman Firefly had a very good gun but it was still weak armored. The FIrefly version had the same weakness as all other Sherman variants - very thin armor. Even the FIrefly couold be defeated by the Panzer IV at range of 1,500m - 2,000m. All SHermans (except Jumbo) were a one shot - one kill case...

[PzAufklaerer12Btl]

@hardcorecrusher12 well even the firefly had not really good chances gainst a panzer IV. I would say pretty even.

[jasincl]

@hardcorecrusher12 well shermans were called "Tommy Cookers" for a reason one shot And *BOOF* FIRE!-LITTERLY! FIRE! the Panzer IV hade better armour

[McRogers80]

Agree..

[RabidRat88]

no sound ?!?

lame

[Danny77uk]

Grow up.

[RabidRat88]

go fuck yourself

[overhang88]

fuck that was cool

[JupilerNL]

its my faverite tank

[McRogers80]

People say that Germans had to mass-produce this tank instead of a few numbers of high quality tanks like Tigers or Panthers.

But what about the crew? Do you think that Germany (expecially after 1943) could equip 10000 Pz IV?

The point of producing Heavy Panzers was because Germans knew that they cannot win a factory war against USA or URSS, so they preferred to produce a few number of very hard tanks...

(sorry for my english...)

[Ixtzalit]

They could win against UdSSR or USA, but they couldnt win against all of them.

[thealloaman]

The panzer mk 4 ausf J was used up to the late 1960's by the syrians in the golan hieghts against the isrealie's...

[astrocat75]

workhorse, equal to the M4 and almost the T-34

Most economic historians would have agreed with the point below. Mass produce the PZIV until it was no longer effective. German ballisitcs design (the L48 75mm) was still a very effective weapon even at the end of the war.

[ApocDevTeam]

Nazi Germany should have spent their resources into mass-producing this tank.

Introducing newer elite tanks like the Tiger I and II or tank killers like the Jagdpanther and Jagdtiger costed a lot of valuable resources.

One Tiger on the field meant four Panzer IV's weren't.

The new tanks had huge amounts of mechanical failures, were very expensive, complex to build, required a lot of fuel, required special transport and maintenance equipment and so on.

Sometimes quantity is better.

[Rightleggedleftback]

The reason is that Hitler had a almost childlike faith in new weapons/ weapon-systems.

The reason the new panzers had failures was because they weren't field tested, or at least not fully tested to iron out all problems.

If they had more time, would the strategy to use the Tigers have paid off ? I don't know. Maybe Pz IVs with lots of TDs could do the same amount of damage?

[Icemeister10]

They shud've switched to all out Panther production replacing the P4 and fixed the Panther's final drives...then Tiger production exclusively for the SchwerePanzerAbteilung would have been justified

[gunmetalxXx]

In fact, the Panzer 4 was one of the best german tank during the War, but only about 8,000 pieces were produced, if you compare this to the mass-produced T34 which was built in more than 60,000 pieces, then you can just imagine that the Panzer 4 was mostly overhelmed by brute numbers...

[gunmetalxXx]

The T34 had to come within 800 meters to penetrate the frontal armour of the Panzer IV G, while the Panzer 4 G was able to penetrate the frontal armor of the T34 at range of 1,200 meters. To be exact, the Panzer 4 was actually equal to the Sherman/T34, though, it was a little bit more powerful (because of the 75mm L/48 gun). indeed also the armor was vertical and not sloppet, but therefore very thick (for a medium tank - [80mm frontal]).

[snyp0r65]

agreed, but i guess you meant "sloped" armor ;)

nice comment btw.

[Guynumber7]

The Ausf H model had armor skirts as well if i remember correctly.

[gunmetalxXx]

Guess why the Germans used this tank until the End of the War. It was not only the "main battle tank" of the Wehrmacht, also it was the most produced one. For sure, the first Panzer IVs with the short barrel were weak, but the Panzer IV G with the new and long 75mm KwK 40 barrel gun, which was more powerful than the 76,2 mm gun of the T34, was superior (in firepower and armour) to the soviet T34 and the US. M4 Sherman.

[Skirm66]

The Panzer IV was used by the isreali army until the late 50s which is testament to its design

[KnorpelDelux]

Thats right! I was amazed by that fakt, too.

[ppsh43]

Actually it was the Syrians who were using Pz IV ausf J in the Golan Heights. Several were knocked out or captured in the late '60s.

[2taall]

The Panzer IV had a great design and, through ongoing modifications to the design over the course of the war, such as upgunning it with the high velocity cannon and additional armor plating, remained a serious battlefield opponent until the end of the war. Not bad for tank design from 1934.

[hardcorecrusher12]

it is my favorite tank of the war. rgood designe good armor and the most producest german tank of the war

[amartinjoe]

I WANT ONE !

[mgf50]

Nice video - thanks. Sound would have made it nicer.

[STATIONO]

Panzer  Vor!

[pwner9999]

Beautiful! With original NA camo!!

[blohazardat]

i love you tanks

[dutchforces]

I love tha panzer IV, everyone is always talking about panthers and tigers, but this tank was realy the workhorse of the wehrmacht!

[OspreyCZ]

@dutchforces true,and also it was the most reliable german tank :) along with Pz III, im not mentioning Pz 38 because that was no Panzer but our captured Lt 38 :-D

[jasincl]

@dutchforces yea although the panther is my favourite the germans should have mass produced the IV if a crappy tank like the sherman was effective because of mass production imagine the Iv's!

[ElCreepoAustraliano]

@dutchforces twas the backbone till around mid 44 when Panthers made up about half of the Panzer Armies strength and there were barely any Panzer IV's left of the Eastern Front

[mz1447]

nice job, but miss sound.

[Cougar545x39]

Still working...the heavier tanks make more problems. But Pz III and IV are reliable ones :)

[tonjes21]

beautifull

[bottenbreker24]

good footage but no sound?

[goetzvbVideo]

Very nice one

[EineCoolePerson]

Very good !