Arch Linux Installation Walkthrough

[kingkong14957]

what if i have windows and no linux partitions like u already have when i got to the screen which i believe is called cfdisc it says fatal error whats up with that why is it doing that and what do i need to do

[Dekorad]

@kingkong14957 Preferably you use Windows' disktools to make the Windows-partition smaller making 20GB or more of space without any partitions, then you can use that space during Linux-installation.

[TokedStokedMusic]

is this still applicable?

[Rokalacs]

This is a bit outdated, the installer had improved much since this.

[cjmabry]

Hahahahah... from the installation introduction of Arch - "If you are looking to install Arch on something more exotic, such as your kerosene-powered cheese grater..." hahahaha

[oKaloC]

That was only the easy part :P

[guillelm]

dsadf

[jewlouds]

how do you get to the GIU? no command i try works!

[Dekorad]

No offence, but as an Arch-user I personally think if one can't install the system with ArchWiki's help, then he shouldn't be installing it at all. It's pointless to run a system when you don't understand how the base behind the GUI works, if there comes any error, the user will be like WTF and can't fix it.

[francispelletier]

@Dekorad How can you learn how the system works then, If you never try ? You've got to start from somewhere, no ?

[Dekorad]

@francispelletier Yes, but my point was that if you can't get it installed with the help of their excelent wiki and need exact & accurate guide what to do, then it's probably better to use ready-to-use distros like Ubuntu and so.

[TokedStokedMusic]

@Dekorad I think the issue with Arch is that it's "beginners" wiki isn't a beginners wiki AT ALL. A beginner is someone with no prior knowledge, NOT someone who understands how to partition a hard-drive. I know that your average arch user isn't a beginner, but some beginners want to learn just for the heck of it and have no clue where to start. There is this huge gap between user-friendly distros like Ubuntu and hardcore ones like Arch. Where do I go to learn??

[Dekorad]

@TokedStokedMusic Well, it's more like Arch Beginner's guide than BEGINNER's guide. Best way (IMHO) for real beginner to learn is to google, read, try, google, read, try until he/she understands. That's how I myself (and many others I know) learned. Can be a rough road but nothing also forces you to do it. If beginner wants to learn inner workings, he/she should be prepared to face stuff that can go over head and take time to understand, and also prepare that it always doesn't go smooth.

[TokedStokedMusic]

@Dekorad sorry if I sounded confrontational before, I had been reading about hard-drive partitions for like an hour and just not understanding a word of it. I definitely know that no one is forcing me to try arch .. but once I get an idea in my head ... I'm thinking sheer tenacity should pull me through. I've messed up my computer enough times to know that each mistake is a really irritating learning experience.

[Dekorad]

@TokedStokedMusic Yeah, for Arch you could get another harddrive so you can safely use that disc without fear of messing your Windows-installation up. If you got further questions or are in need of additional help, feel free to PM me, I have been an Arch-user for years.

[TokedStokedMusic]

@Dekorad Oh, I'm running ubuntu 11.04 ... I'd probably start out with a virtual box install. Once I 1. know I can get an install up and running and 2. see if there is any nividia screen tearing I have to deal with (I use my computer to watch TV) & deal with it accordingly, I will back up my files and probably screw everything up a couple times. I've had to reinstall my OS so many times because of dumb mistakes that I've actually started to enjoy setting up a fresh install. thanks for the help

[Dekorad]

@TokedStokedMusic Ah sorry. Virtualbox is great way to practice too. You most likely can't see the screen tearing with Virtualbox installation tho. Just a tip for partitioning, make separate partition for /home next time you reinstall the system on physical machine, if you haven't already. That way you can switch between distributions and reinstall whole system and still have your settings & personal files as long as you don't format the /home-partition, only /-partition.

[Peetowan]

@francispelletier why should you lern how the system works if you only browse the Internet?;) and if you want to lern linux you should go for slackware.. cuz slackware has almost been around since the beginning.. use arch, lern arch. use slackware, lern linux

[studioworks1990]

@Peetowan If he only wanna browse the internet he should probably stick with Ubuntu. Way more easy.

[CabbageNappa]

@Dekorad The user has to learn somehow though

[timpster93]

@Dekorad like what i just did in virtualbox haha EXACTLY it couldn't 'configure system' for my network or somthin so i chose no and picked NANO went to root passwd cuz thats all i know and it says CHROOT unknown password scrollin like a mofo down the screen so i said FUCK IT

[Dekorad]

@timpster93 Erm, ok? I really didn't get what went wrong but if you have some questions to ask about the installation, drop me a pm. Also if you have no prior Linux-experience and are not willing to learn much stuff at once, you probably shouldn't try installing Arch.

[timpster93]

@Dekorad yeah i think ill stick w/ LM 10 gnome for now haha YEAH GO MINT really tho if you havent tried mint might wanna make a cd cuz its awesome

[Dekorad]

@timpster93 Yeah, Linux Mint is pretty awesome if you just want to have a easy to use-system without manual configuration. It succeeds in that very nicely. :) If you haven't tried KDE desktop, be sure to try it out sometime. It's pretty cool. Search Youtube for some KDE 4.5 or KDE 4.6 videos and you'll see :)

[timpster93]

@Dekorad i have tried KDE desktop but i dont like it as much as i do gnome

just dont know what the different features are that Gnome dosen't have and

i feel KDE is still SLIGHTLY slow

[Dekorad]

@timpster93 Yeah, it's really mostly about matter of taste. I myself prefer KDE over GNOME. I find it better looking and having better/more features and better customizing options. KDE also can be slow if there's graphics-driverproblems or hardware's just older. The good thing is that we have the options to choose what we want to use, instead of being forced to use one desktop environment. :)

[tarkeke]

SUCCESS!

[sirgreil]

PKM11901: You can install manually if there's a problem, or if it's not in the Pacman database.

[pkm11901]

agree-Ive installed arch but dont know how to tell pacman to get xorg,fluxbox etc

I stumbled through the installer ok since I use debian and ubuntu(always ALT ncurses install not LIVE for speed)

[PARTYzaNOVAC]

I'd like to see a video on how you install X and eventually how you install a DE over a fresh arch install.

I prefer XFCE but I believe the install process would be very similar to any of them.

[nezagain]

go on Arck wiki every thing is there and pretty easy to do

[alexander161192]

one question:

i wanna get linux, now i saw the extremely low boot times of archlinux, and got interested.

for which kind of users is it developped?

please help me ;)

[shiznetlcd]

if by kind you mean experience then arch is for the more experienced with the CLI if you want a more easier approach to linux then i recommend mint it has a lot of features out of the box and very user-friendly

[timpster93]

@alexander161192 if this is your first OR second time trying linux PLEASE go with Linux Mint 10

yes i KNOW 11 is out but 10 is WAY more stable and dosent have Compiz errors and shit like that

so get 10 and i think you might like it

[omwashere]

Virtualbox?

Thanks, helped me alot :D

[hoppimike]

wow this doesn't look too much more difficult than when I used Slackware! Thanks for the tutorial! I'd just have to learn how to install X and KDE after that! lol

See, I love Ubuntu but I want a distro that keeps itself really up to date! Apparently Arch is good for that, or Debian o.O

[stayelusive]

Everything goes fine until I get to system config. Where you get all these options and change your time zone, I just get one like that looks like this "@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@­^@^@^"

Not sure what it means

[Brunacho]

the install was on a live cd

[slaverrich]

He started Arch in a Virtual machine.

I guess he used virtualbox.

[capitalsown]

I'm curious as to how you could record this.

[letmekilluplz]

Using Virtual box

[dutchy131]

Lol :p

[khaos07777]

mine keeps saying "grub>" along with alot of other stuff. i must have burned it more then 4 times and it was downloaded with bittorrent. is the part about setting a hardrive neccessary if u r not trying to install a bootloader? im not really used to text based 0_0

[calrogman]

You need a boot loader, without one a computer can't boot from the hard drive.

[khaos07777]

oh... thanks :)

[Tomita238]

Apart from partitioning where I chose autoprepare, I installed the whole Arch like u and I dont get Internet, cannot update pacman and so on. Any idea?

[linuxandfriends]

Most probably it could be an IP address issue. Check the IP address of your machine.

[Tomita238]

it finally works, i had to change sth in the mainconfig

[ASCII808]

I was wondering how do you get xorg to work in arch? it says missing xserver, and when I try using Xorg it gives me a blank screen.

[Peetowan]

@Tomita238 if you choose to install from one of the mirrors insted of the cd, arch will configure your network automatically..

[dmanooos]

can someone tell me how can i install gui in arch linux? help the noob plz! thanks!

[khaos07777]

go to the site. its in the wiki T_T;

[dmanooos]

arch linux wiki didnt help me... i have problems with pacman downloads/configurations and some errors when i type, for example, "# pacman -S gnome"...

[khaos07777]

they have an artical on that specifically thouugh

[NoMusicLabel]

you don't have to type #....

just

pacman -S gnome

# indicates you're logged as the super user (root)

$ indicates you're logged as a normal user on the system

[dmanooos]

i know... i cant configure my ethernet to download pacman and then install it to my system...... i have the same problem in gentoo with ethernet configuration

[NoMusicLabel]

if you type

ifconfig -a

you see your ethernet card without an IP?

if so, you can force a IP using

ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1

for example

and set your gateway like

route add default gw routerIP metric 1

[dmanooos]

i type modprobe and my correct ethernet module and then i can see with ifconfig -a "lo" and "eth0" but i dont have internet conection...

[JeyPeyy]

How do you do at 2:20 to check base-devel?

[KaiZ51]

I believe you need to press space.

[tromort]

yup, press space to select.

[endnami]

yeah but see ther eis no xorg mantainance soo

its pop for newbs that want to learn. since there is no real how to bc its so many ways of building it...

[endnami]

yeah i gave up bc there is really no ral good tutorial ut there for drives or even of how to dl xorg into the base, then we have to talk about drives. boy arch seems to be more trouble than its worth.

[endnami]

whats the next step after this?

thanks for the help on install, but

how do i get to graphical interface :(

[linuxandfriends]

This video shows only the base installation of Arch Linux.

For graphical interface, you need to install xorg and any of the desktops (GNOME, KDE etc). Arch linux comes with a superior package management system called pacman.

[peterixxx]

there's a pretty detailed howto on arch wiki. just follow it and you'll get a working gui system :]