My point was that the West loves talk while these atrocities go on, they have no value for life they talk about marx, lenin etc with their arrogance when you ask them about 1000 death in africa or middle east they say we are sorry about the collateral damage and then thye like to muslims terrorists
Ya know, if the "folks working on their own narratives" are asking for help, I think it's ok.
I wish they would make clearer an organization's status when they bring them on. I've never heard of New America Foundation before and it's not clear from their website what their agenda is.
@Ashphodelic Never, That should never happen. Will only make more people die. They already dont know how to use the ones they stole from armories as it is.
To any out there where English my be your 3rd 4th or 5th language this is called 'spin', what he is actually saying is, Sure we'd love go drop bombs on more people, thats our thing, but actually we cant afford it and the people back home might actually lynch us if we try it .
These stooges do not know the meaning of the word humanitarian, but they know what 'oil' means.
We are not a game to be played by the Elites. The elites think of us as pawns. The elites don't care about us. They make us slaves to their system. We are not statistics. We should not be debated over as if we don't bleed as if we don't have hearts and souls. As if we do not love. We are not the be played like pawns on their chessboard. I am done with this emptiness.
Steve Clommons has no conscience, or if he does, his little conscience is on the side of Kaddaffi. Who knows, he might even be on the payroll of Muammar. One thing is for sure, he should be ashamed of himself and he should have dreams of all the innocent women and children killed by the butchers of the butcher Kadafi family.
Steve Clemons is an idiot. He compares this to Egypt but fails to mention Mubarak stepping down thus no need for foreign intervention. Big difference asshole.
the arab league just approved the no-fly zone over libya so why doesn't the RSAF do something? it maintains the third largest fleet of F-15s in the world according to wikipedia...seems like they have the resources to deal with a few vintage libyan aircraft.
Remember, Islamic Democracy is opposite of Western Democracy. Steve Clemons is right up there with every other muslim ass kisser. He wrote: Barack Obama needs to make a statement loudly, clearly, and with passion that he embraces Muslims as much as any other Americans of Christian, Buddhist, Jewish or other religious persuasions. Islam is NOT a religion. Islam is a creed which can not live without lies.
israel's Global CST is supplying gaddafi with mercenaries, Jet Bombers non-stop; Ghaddafi has Italien 155mm Tank killers with 18k radius - no ground defense possible! Ghaddafi has wiped out Rebel cities - KEEP TALKING while people die
@flagoftawheed KEEP TALKING while people die in Libiya. Yes I feel the same way. BLAH BLAH BLAH They debate all day long. It is not accomplishing anything. Who cares what they think anymore? They are wasting our time with their nonsence. People are dying, people are starving, people are being abused.
Wishful talking! Besides Jet Bombers non-stop; Ghaddafi has Italien 155mm Tank killers with 18k radius - no ground defense possible! Ghaddafi has wiped out Rebel cities - sends ceaseless lies & vids world-wide & now Bombs Refineries as RETALIATION for every "diplomatic" step against him! Demo-reform OR Dictat-killer states: this is what it is down to! All BS, because Libya WILL BE INVADED! Those 155mm WILL BE DESTROYED! Ghaddafi's compound WILL BE BOMBED TO RUBBLE - 300 feet DEEP! NETWORLDCOMING
@Arkinight Guilliaries or something like that, named after plant in Italy where made (look at vs. Equiptment lists). Anyone with military knowledge can see what is happening. In race before Intervention Ghaddafi wipes out "Rebel" cities from safe distance, then sends "mop-up" in. NO arms supplies to "Rebels" can offset this formula! Meanwhile "pleasant skylines" & busy traffic are shown behind RT commentators: the "business as usual" Ghaddafi line.
@PhotonDrive Palmaria is a 155mm self-propelled howitzer but it's definitely not an anti-tank weapon, it's an artillery piece. International Institute for Strategic Studies estimates Libya has 155 of these as well as many others.
@Arkinight Thanks for further details! I think SPOTTERS have been part of Ghaddafi's problem - at first. Also think that Free Libya's use of rocket barrages led to advice to use these 155's as barrage weapons against defecting tanks as well as Zawiyah - watch Misraita battle for evidence? This guy is being nicey-nicey; but Clinton's speech a few hours later let some cats out of the bag? Note her "these things take some time" quote, osensibly only about diplomacy!
I understand what he is saying, but I think that a no-fly zone is needed. The rebels are calling for our support, and so we must answer their cries for help.
Ridiculous. The 'rebels' haven't asked for anything! When they found SAS in there, they took them prisoners! They don't want the west. Don't tell me the 'opposition' doesn't have a unified force and still we need to help that un-unified force. We haven't seen any demands from the people of Libya. You've gotta ask yourself why we're so willing to 'help' Libya, but not any other nation going through protests and deaths. Does Afghanistan have their freedom yet? Then why are we believing the US?
@humanoidcontent They arrested the SAS because they had no idea the British were coming. They were afraid that those people were Gaddafi mercenaries, they didn't know.
PressTV is not propaganda,fact is every news agency has it's trolls you've got to find the journalists your more willing to trust rather than a favourite channel. Al jazeera are mostly awesome at reporting the real news but ever so often even they have a few suspicious characters amongst their ranks. Regarding Libya I hope America has nothing to do with the situation at all. If any country is going to do it i say it should be egypt.
@TheMatthewTuite, agreed. even fox news ran carl cameron's dec. 2001 series on israeli spying in the US and ties to 911.
interesting you mention egypt as press tv cited egyptian military officials as the source for the intel about the link between Global CST and gaddafi's chadian mercenaries.
it is a civil war we dont need to be there let them fight for the pride of freedom we have our owen crap going on here god bless and may god help them all
if press tv's report is true, that israel's Global CST is supplying gaddafi with mercenaries, then the libyan insurgency is being pushed into a "no-fly zone" embrace, a dangerous development for libyan sovereignty. with that in mind, what mr clement says makes good sense.
@mispistoleros you gotta be careful with what you take in from press tv though, they have a lot of good reports on news from Palestine, but you can't forget they are an english speaking propagandist site for Iran. Which doesn't mean they're always or even mostly wrong, but it does prove they have a dog in the fight
@skinnywhop87, most news org have a "point of view". if you follow the links, you'll find that even the jerusalem post titled its article on Global CST, " Security and Defense: A fix-it firm for ailing nations". research its owner, "israel in columbia: death do we impart". you'll see there's a pattern and this gaddafi - mercenary scenario is entirely consistent and plausible.
it's classic neo-zio-con strategy. while the left hand unleashes mercenaries, the right hand offers "no-fly" salvation.
My point was that the West loves talk while these atrocities go on, they have no value for life they talk about marx, lenin etc with their arrogance when you ask them about 1000 death in africa or middle east they say we are sorry about the collateral damage and then thye like to muslims terrorists
flagoftawheed 11 months ago
Ya know, if the "folks working on their own narratives" are asking for help, I think it's ok.
I wish they would make clearer an organization's status when they bring them on. I've never heard of New America Foundation before and it's not clear from their website what their agenda is.
Maxdwolf 11 months ago
@Maxdwolf Offshoot of "Move On" - Demo Hawks!
PhotonDrive 11 months ago
@PhotonDrive Odd, they seem to have a strong Christian bias.
Maxdwolf 11 months ago
Ultimately no one should be doing anything.This is Libyan problem. Let dead dogs lie where they fall ?
benshivd 11 months ago
Give them modern arms! NOW!
Ashphodelic 11 months ago
@Ashphodelic Never, That should never happen. Will only make more people die. They already dont know how to use the ones they stole from armories as it is.
benshivd 11 months ago
To any out there where English my be your 3rd 4th or 5th language this is called 'spin', what he is actually saying is, Sure we'd love go drop bombs on more people, thats our thing, but actually we cant afford it and the people back home might actually lynch us if we try it .
These stooges do not know the meaning of the word humanitarian, but they know what 'oil' means.
TheSnarkle 11 months ago
@TheSnarkle Not one word of your comment has anything to do with what this man said.
UnclePutin 11 months ago
Pretty soon the Western authorities will turn around and call the rebels terrorists when they refuse to give up their resources.
a4d2d0 11 months ago
We are not a game to be played by the Elites. The elites think of us as pawns. The elites don't care about us. They make us slaves to their system. We are not statistics. We should not be debated over as if we don't bleed as if we don't have hearts and souls. As if we do not love. We are not the be played like pawns on their chessboard. I am done with this emptiness.
Mineretta2012 11 months ago
Steve Clommons has no conscience, or if he does, his little conscience is on the side of Kaddaffi. Who knows, he might even be on the payroll of Muammar. One thing is for sure, he should be ashamed of himself and he should have dreams of all the innocent women and children killed by the butchers of the butcher Kadafi family.
Sun4Niebieskieoczy 11 months ago
Steve Clemons is an idiot. He compares this to Egypt but fails to mention Mubarak stepping down thus no need for foreign intervention. Big difference asshole.
swankrecords 11 months ago
Arab world is speechless ?
456inthemix 11 months ago 3
They are still talking about this shit, either do it or don't
Ninyth 11 months ago
UN Intervene already in one way or another. Ghadaffi needs to go!
HajtomY 11 months ago
the arab league just approved the no-fly zone over libya so why doesn't the RSAF do something? it maintains the third largest fleet of F-15s in the world according to wikipedia...seems like they have the resources to deal with a few vintage libyan aircraft.
MikeSluggo 11 months ago
these rebels not different from Insurgents in fallujah......
millenium2003 11 months ago
Who is the news anchor in this video?
shexxlovesxxhim6 11 months ago
Steve Clemons is so right here.
lordrazi111693 11 months ago
Remember, Islamic Democracy is opposite of Western Democracy. Steve Clemons is right up there with every other muslim ass kisser. He wrote: Barack Obama needs to make a statement loudly, clearly, and with passion that he embraces Muslims as much as any other Americans of Christian, Buddhist, Jewish or other religious persuasions. Islam is NOT a religion. Islam is a creed which can not live without lies.
Zalahblue 11 months ago
@Zalahblue
Where'd you learn that? At KKK summer camp?
rencrow 11 months ago
@rencrow The man writes for the huffington post. Knock your self out.
Zalahblue 11 months ago
@rencrow What's this KKK BS? You think Muslim is a race of people? You think Islam is a Race of people? Do you know my race?
Islam is not a religion and Muslim is not a race.
Mohammad was nothing more than a mental, delusional, middle aged man with epilepsy.
Nasty Warning: /watch?v=XMQfxxsH86o&feature=related
Zalahblue 11 months ago
@Zalahblue
Right....because KKK are only prejudiced against people of different ethnicities and not different religious backgrounds.
rencrow 11 months ago
@rencrow LOL! You know nothing about the KKK. Thanks for the giggle.
Zalahblue 11 months ago
What is ethically wrong with neutralizing weapons 'we' sold Muammar if he is using them to suppress genuinely 'democratic will of the people?
vladdrac88 11 months ago
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israel's Global CST is supplying gaddafi with mercenaries, Jet Bombers non-stop; Ghaddafi has Italien 155mm Tank killers with 18k radius - no ground defense possible! Ghaddafi has wiped out Rebel cities - KEEP TALKING while people die
club213542 11 months ago 2
KEEP TALKING while people die in Libiya
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@flagoftawheed KEEP TALKING while people die in Libiya. Yes I feel the same way. BLAH BLAH BLAH They debate all day long. It is not accomplishing anything. Who cares what they think anymore? They are wasting our time with their nonsence. People are dying, people are starving, people are being abused.
Mineretta2012 11 months ago
@flagoftawheed
when they help it´s wrong, when they don´t it´s wrong too
IndependentScientist 11 months ago
Wishful talking! Besides Jet Bombers non-stop; Ghaddafi has Italien 155mm Tank killers with 18k radius - no ground defense possible! Ghaddafi has wiped out Rebel cities - sends ceaseless lies & vids world-wide & now Bombs Refineries as RETALIATION for every "diplomatic" step against him! Demo-reform OR Dictat-killer states: this is what it is down to! All BS, because Libya WILL BE INVADED! Those 155mm WILL BE DESTROYED! Ghaddafi's compound WILL BE BOMBED TO RUBBLE - 300 feet DEEP! NETWORLDCOMING
PhotonDrive 11 months ago
@PhotonDrive What are those "tank killers" called?
Arkinight 11 months ago
@Arkinight Guilliaries or something like that, named after plant in Italy where made (look at vs. Equiptment lists). Anyone with military knowledge can see what is happening. In race before Intervention Ghaddafi wipes out "Rebel" cities from safe distance, then sends "mop-up" in. NO arms supplies to "Rebels" can offset this formula! Meanwhile "pleasant skylines" & busy traffic are shown behind RT commentators: the "business as usual" Ghaddafi line.
PhotonDrive 11 months ago
@PhotonDrive Palmaria is a 155mm self-propelled howitzer but it's definitely not an anti-tank weapon, it's an artillery piece. International Institute for Strategic Studies estimates Libya has 155 of these as well as many others.
Arkinight 11 months ago
@Arkinight Thanks for further details! I think SPOTTERS have been part of Ghaddafi's problem - at first. Also think that Free Libya's use of rocket barrages led to advice to use these 155's as barrage weapons against defecting tanks as well as Zawiyah - watch Misraita battle for evidence? This guy is being nicey-nicey; but Clinton's speech a few hours later let some cats out of the bag? Note her "these things take some time" quote, osensibly only about diplomacy!
PhotonDrive 11 months ago
I understand what he is saying, but I think that a no-fly zone is needed. The rebels are calling for our support, and so we must answer their cries for help.
Apparoid 11 months ago
Ridiculous. The 'rebels' haven't asked for anything! When they found SAS in there, they took them prisoners! They don't want the west. Don't tell me the 'opposition' doesn't have a unified force and still we need to help that un-unified force. We haven't seen any demands from the people of Libya. You've gotta ask yourself why we're so willing to 'help' Libya, but not any other nation going through protests and deaths. Does Afghanistan have their freedom yet? Then why are we believing the US?
humanoidcontent 11 months ago
@humanoidcontent They arrested the SAS because they had no idea the British were coming. They were afraid that those people were Gaddafi mercenaries, they didn't know.
Apparoid 11 months ago
@Apparoid Kind of dumb to go into the middle of a civil war and not let your allies know you're there to help, huh?
humanoidcontent 11 months ago
@humanoidcontent Only the British eh?
Apparoid 11 months ago
PressTV is not propaganda,fact is every news agency has it's trolls you've got to find the journalists your more willing to trust rather than a favourite channel. Al jazeera are mostly awesome at reporting the real news but ever so often even they have a few suspicious characters amongst their ranks. Regarding Libya I hope America has nothing to do with the situation at all. If any country is going to do it i say it should be egypt.
TheMatthewTuite 11 months ago
@TheMatthewTuite, agreed. even fox news ran carl cameron's dec. 2001 series on israeli spying in the US and ties to 911.
interesting you mention egypt as press tv cited egyptian military officials as the source for the intel about the link between Global CST and gaddafi's chadian mercenaries.
mispistoleros 11 months ago
it is a civil war we dont need to be there let them fight for the pride of freedom we have our owen crap going on here god bless and may god help them all
MrBigdaddy1776 11 months ago
dear america, just say no.
worldtravel101 11 months ago
if press tv's report is true, that israel's Global CST is supplying gaddafi with mercenaries, then the libyan insurgency is being pushed into a "no-fly zone" embrace, a dangerous development for libyan sovereignty. with that in mind, what mr clement says makes good sense.
mispistoleros 11 months ago
@mispistoleros you gotta be careful with what you take in from press tv though, they have a lot of good reports on news from Palestine, but you can't forget they are an english speaking propagandist site for Iran. Which doesn't mean they're always or even mostly wrong, but it does prove they have a dog in the fight
skinnywhop87 11 months ago
@skinnywhop87, most news org have a "point of view". if you follow the links, you'll find that even the jerusalem post titled its article on Global CST, " Security and Defense: A fix-it firm for ailing nations". research its owner, "israel in columbia: death do we impart". you'll see there's a pattern and this gaddafi - mercenary scenario is entirely consistent and plausible.
it's classic neo-zio-con strategy. while the left hand unleashes mercenaries, the right hand offers "no-fly" salvation.
mispistoleros 11 months ago