Civilization IV Wonder: Great Wall

[SlipKnoTFanaticLoL]

Why build a wall that goes all the way across China? Just put it around your damn city like everyone else lol

[frisianmouve]

this is a very usefull wonder, however i usually fog bust the barbarians around my civ early in the game instead of wasting my resources on this wonder.

[PraecoNoctis]

it looks like the snake things in Tremors :-D

[sErgEantaEgis12]

I wish there would be a little guy running with the Great Wall getting built behind it and he would be screaming ''OMG HALP IT'S AFTAR MEH!''...

[ppshchik]

They should make a project called "Great Firewall of China" with The Internet as prerequisite

[Lisenok1984]

Interesting fact - GW was built not to prevent conquerors' intervention in China, but to make war booty harder to bring out

[TheLegoman2852]

OH GOD HERE IT COMES EVERYBODY RUN!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA­AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Hteam1422]

"GAWD DAMN MONGORIANS!!! STOP BREAKING DOWN MAH SHITTY WALL!!!"

-City Wok Owner

[ppshchik]

It is funny how they used the simplified word for "Dragon" when simplified Chinese was introduced in the 1940's rofl.

[Hpyrr328]

龍 was written in simplified in the clip. xDDDD

[Infernox1320]

Wall Worm.

[britboyal]

GOD DAMN MONGORIANS!!!

[S0ldi3rKr4s0]

China called, they want their wall back.

[jedihunter176]

Let's do this to Mexico guys

[behnamasid]

This wonder is very useful for deity difficulty raging barbarians

[DeathlyDavid]

Do you have to be chinese?

[KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

DESK IS TOO SMALL!

[Nacatl1995]

is it in the normal Civ4 or do you need an addon like Beyond the sword? pls answer ^.^

[Ipodmoeilijk]

It's really creepy to see what people can do if they really want to.

[enterprise0709]

the best Wonder there is: keep those god damn Barbarians out of my Empire; forever!

[LUNATIC75]

I always straight lined for this wonder in my CIV 4 games.

Barbarians were to be feared, unlike in CIV 5.

[TomBombadil37]

I always visualize little hordes of Mongols running alongside the wall as it goes up.

[MidgardEagle]

@TomBombadil37 I visualize the South Park episode where they build a wall around South Park a single random Asian dude runs around on top of it fighting off a small squad of Mongols who tear down the wall repeatedly only to retreat and repeat the attack when it's rebuilt:D.

[tankhunters]

This is the cheapest and nicest way of saying "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MAH CULTURAL BARRIER YOU PRIMITIVE HEATHENS!" when playing as an industrious Civ.

[prelynmax]

@tankhunters LOL!

[Kondaar]

Both extension packs ( warlords, beyond the sword ( awesome pack. Get it)) have it as I believe . but I know bts has it .

[ilikeapplanas]

I like the music.

[jcs101194]

damn you mongorians always knocking down my shitty wall

[Jems17]

I can't get this on my game. It's just not an option. Is it only available on later games or something??

[Psse222]

@Jems17 It appears on one of the two expansion packs. I don't exactly remember which one, though.

[ObadiahtheSlim]

In BTS it adds great spy points instead of engineer points. This makes it a must have for a espionage monger game.

[Ascensiam]

Damn those chinese work fast

[ElChrisman]

this is a MUST HAVE if you play with raging barbarians on :)

[TheRaheelfazal]

wow!



[DonZN4]

It pushed the compass off the map XD

[BLARGHALT]

That'll keep those fucking cologne salesmen out.

[shockraid1]

The Great Wall of ... France.

[ohweloveeverton]

look how fast they built this wall.the workers go so fast you cant even see them.

THIS IS WHY WE'RE LOOSING OUR JOBS AMERICA

[crazybroly]

@ohweloveeverton

THEY TOOOK OUR JOOOOOOBS!!!!!

sorry had to say that. because im a southpark addict

[jmcfar8947]

@ohweloveeverton LOL

[jjws]

this is the best wonder if you turn 'raging barbarians' option on

[Civfan26]

@jjws it is too bad that they only put this in warloards and BTS (beyond the sword) for civ 4

[Eedwart2007]

I think this is the best wonder video and wonder itself.

[chankljp]

@Eedwart2007

It is very useful if you are playing a game with a large number of Barbarians. This will keep them out of the areas under your control so you can focus your resources on building other things instead of a large military.

[GortonMichael]

@chankljp Yeah. But it isn't as good as it was in CIV2.

Enemies :"Were it not for that accursed great wall, we would attack, but we are forced to offer a ceasefire!"

Me: *Laughs*

[SickBritKid]

@chankljp

Or, you can now focus on building a huge military without being harassed by Barbs, while your AI opponents will.

I always try and slingshot to the Great Wall when I'm playing with Raging Barbs.

[bella1109100]

@SickBritKid Or build mounted units to run laps around your borders pwning all the incoming barbarians and get free experience points.What version of the game is this, because I'm in normal Civ 4 and there is no great wall wonder.

[567hurricane]

Which civ 4 version is it on? bts or warlords, because its not on regular civ

[Seraphz0rz]

It is in BTS but I think it first showed up in Warlords.

[royceoytube]

warlords

[rickinator9]

does anyone know how to fix the problem named: it's too crowded?

[COMEONalreadytaken]

You can't remove those negative effects.

It happens when your city grows.

You can fight it back by using buildings that give + happiness like theaters, coliseums, churches etc.

if you have heredity rule you can select that civ vicand put several military units defending your city to reduce the number of angry citizens.

Also the globe theater which is a national wonder pretty much fixes this problem in the city in which is build.

[rickinator9]

i wonder how the chinese built this giant

[Nazgul100]

through a lot of hard work and slavery amongst thier own.

[gjmvi]

Yup. And when slaves died, they built the wall on top of the bodies and kept going. Brutal stuff.

[newwavenewrave]

built that thing faster than modern nations build some of their buildings. that is scary.

[BurningSunBloodyMoon]

That's actual an urban myth; there's no evidence that the dead slaves were place in or under the Great Wall.

[gjmvi]

I just ran a quick google search and found sources stating human remains have been found buried under sections of the wall. Do you have any proof that this is a myth?

[BurningSunBloodyMoon]

I, similarly, just ran a quick Google search for "great wall of china buried", and found several sources saying that people were buried under the wall, a couple of sources that said "no one knows", and several sources saying that people weren't built under the wall.

I found no sources with any pictures of corpses that had been found underneath the wall, and I suspect none exist, as unearthing them would mean destroying a section of the wall.

Continued in the next post.

[BurningSunBloodyMoon]

Burying people under or into the wall would also be a bad idea, as the corpses would change in size and composition, causing structural weaknesses in the wall. Therefore I choose to side with the idea that there probably were no bodies buried under or into the wall, but that no one really knows for sure.

The idea that people were buried under or into the wall appears to be a complete myth, as there is no evidence that it happened or good reason for it to happen.

[gjmvi]

Interesting. Well that was my problem with it, bodies decay and wither away. It makes more sense to me that the slaves were actually buried on site, and as the legend has been told and retold through the ages, the story is now that people were buried under the wall. The truth behind myths are never quite as exciting.

[rockoownz]

@BurningSunBloodyMoon

The building of the wall began thousands of years ago, Over half a million workers helped built the wall, human rights were also low back then. Nor did they know about this structural weaknesses of the wall and so on. I am not saying there are bodies, but the odds there are mass graves in the walls are pretty high. I doubt they took the time to give the workers proper burial, just like the pyramids, hundreds died everyday building the wall.

[pow3334]

There are people buried everywhere on this planet, that wall is 1000's of km's long... The probability that some bodies are under the wall are feasable.. Heck there might even be a body under your house!!!

[dagenhambwoi]

and a cookie

[yoohoocan1]

2nd favorite wonder

[BrownsFan02]

barbarians love this :)

[devilhunterred]

My favorite wonder. Extremely useful if you are going for an early rush.

[yoda846442]

Its my favorite too. I always try to build this one.

[vinnyStigerknight97]

in my game u cant build the great wall!?!?

[MasonMortensen]

Do you have the Beyond the Sword Expansion, or the Warlords expansion?

You can't build the Great Wall if you have only Civ 4 without any expansions.

[vinnyStigerknight97]

well i just got warlords in the gold edition.

[natey10101]

heh, like how it just pushes aside some of the tools.

[Reeki]

I just love this video. Sometimes I feel like completing the great wall just to watch it again. :P

[chankljp]

I agree. I also like how this wonder can be seen on the map screen. I tend to expand my civilization's borders as much as possible before completing this wonder.

[GuestStar26]

@chankljp You're not the only one :)

[chankljp]

@GuestStar26

Haha! It is good to know I am not the only one who does that!

[GeneralY7]

more like a big "concrete" dragon, I kinda doubt they had modern concrete back then...

[pawner999999999]

a big concrete worm

[pawner999999999]

it sort of looks like a worm slithering towards the screen

[AianIvasion]

go china!!!!!!!!!!

[Shack11]

2500 years. :0

[fresh7up]

It took 10 years for the Great Wall to be built and YES about it being visible from space is totally a MYTH!

[FloatingMystic]

...I'd like to know your source, because the Great Wall of China took about 1800 years to build, first ordered by Shi Huangdi in the Qin Dynasty and ending most of its construction in the Qing Dynasty. o.O

[attackfighter]

The Great Wall of China was originally made out of mud and debris, but later they started rebuilding it with stone and expanding its area. This might be what the other guy is talking about.

[Darkgrammer]

It's a myth that it's visible with the naked eye from space.

So you wouldn't see anything.

[BatuSmoka808]

yah u need like a scope or some shit.

[andreshawk13]

it had been better if construcion were observed from the space!

[titanlordx]

yes and no

[andreshawk13]

why?