Simmons is an anachronism. None of the bands he has signed have done anything in the USA where it counts. He'll do a deal with anyone for money. Satan, are you listening?
... Bob is merely trying to show musicians the smoke and mirrors in the industry - that labels don't have the majority of power anymore and to build one's career from grass-roots - facts ANYONE would like to know EXCEPT the major labels who depend on naive assholes to prostrate themselves before them. Want more facts? Google 'The problem with music' by Steve Albini and read where the money REALLY goes!
Gene is a cocky ass. I wouldn't give 2 seconds to someone who uses intimidation and belittlement to 'win' a debate on facts. HERE'S some facts - Kiss made it because they were one of the first bands to REALLY push image over musical content. Fact - who the fuck plays or covers their songs anymore? They are mediocre, from a musical standpoint. Fact - Gene stands to gain a LOT of money by signing naive acts they can milk and dispose of, like the other majors today...
Gene showed up in Canada to sign 2 bands. Out of all the bands that showcased for him...all the bands in this great country that "gave the world Joni Mitchell and Neil Young" (Gene's words to George Strombo on The Hour) he picks: Down With Webster and Stereos. What the fuck? 2 of the shittiest bands I've ever heard who won't be around long enough to be forgotten.
Lefsetz made a huge strategic error, and if you read his blog, it is obvious because he does it all the time. He gets very insulting to the people that he doesn't like, and that begs the question as to why he needs to do this. He also kisses asses of those who have given him a modicum of attention, unlike Simmons, a well-known asshole, notwithstanding. Bob fauns over other egregious assholes like Bruce Allen and his "buddy" Jake Gold. His antics demonstrate only his obvious insecurity
Gene Simmons is far and away the BIGGEST TOOL the music industry has ever had to suffer through. And anyone here who thinks Lefsetz doesn't know exactly what he's talking about, is a complete fool. If Gene were even remotely right about Lefsetz being a nobody, why did he (1) go so upset over the email, and (2) wind up debating him in a public forum like this?
what lefsetz has done, besides spout his opinions in his newsletter, is this: he apparently has a law degree, but he doesn't practice, so i guess he's a failed lawyer. as far as i know, he was fired from the only real music industry job he ever had, which was at sanctuary.
so basically, yeah... he's done nothing that deserves any respect whatsoever.
you're a tool if you think that reading lefsetz's letter gives you any real insight into the music industry. he doesnt DO anything, except stir up shit about OTHER people's business. he's a schmuck.
i think gene responded because A) if someone attacks you in print to all your peers, you're entitled to respond. B) CMW organizers asked him to do it to create a buzz for their own event. C) if he said no to debating him, he'd look like he backed down to someone like lefsetz.
yeah, it's embarrassing to watch lefsetz shrink in his seat and fidget like a 12-year-old boy, staring at his shoes, sighing and rolling his eyeballs like a brat when gene tries to talk. at least gene's professional enough to sit up in his chair. lefsetz acts like a little baby.
Bob is an a-hole. What kind of person starts off their "introduction" by asking such a rude question? Gene perhaps isn't the nicest guy on earth, and yes, he's all about making money and he doesn't try to hide that. Who the hell is Bob to attack him so viciously for starting a business? This is just inflammatory B.S. on Bob's part, to give himself some attention and credibility for doing nothing, essentially. He's a scourge on the music business, a self-appointed critic who adds no value.
Bob Lefsetz : former head of Sanctuary records (look it up), music biz attorney, former label consultant.....Gene Simmons:made millions by putting on makeup..
What you won't find on Google or Wikipedia is that Bob got fired from Sanctuary, the only 'label' he worked with. He's a lawyer that doesn't practice. Based on that background he's a "music consultant"?? B.S. He's a little wanker with a yappy bark, like Gene says.
Simmons is an anachronism. None of the bands he has signed have done anything in the USA where it counts. He'll do a deal with anyone for money. Satan, are you listening?
Ateamcaptain 7 months ago
genes just angry because he still doesnt know how to play bass
Kyrano 1 year ago 3
... Bob is merely trying to show musicians the smoke and mirrors in the industry - that labels don't have the majority of power anymore and to build one's career from grass-roots - facts ANYONE would like to know EXCEPT the major labels who depend on naive assholes to prostrate themselves before them. Want more facts? Google 'The problem with music' by Steve Albini and read where the money REALLY goes!
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Gene is a cocky ass. I wouldn't give 2 seconds to someone who uses intimidation and belittlement to 'win' a debate on facts. HERE'S some facts - Kiss made it because they were one of the first bands to REALLY push image over musical content. Fact - who the fuck plays or covers their songs anymore? They are mediocre, from a musical standpoint. Fact - Gene stands to gain a LOT of money by signing naive acts they can milk and dispose of, like the other majors today...
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GBGP621988 2 years ago
Gene showed up in Canada to sign 2 bands. Out of all the bands that showcased for him...all the bands in this great country that "gave the world Joni Mitchell and Neil Young" (Gene's words to George Strombo on The Hour) he picks: Down With Webster and Stereos. What the fuck? 2 of the shittiest bands I've ever heard who won't be around long enough to be forgotten.
specialry 2 years ago
Fucker, U2 is from Dublin and are much bigger than Kiss.
Still funny tho.
GLeNss 2 years ago
Who has sold more LPs?
asparrow 2 years ago
Gene totally owns that jerk-off!!!
debgibsonfan 2 years ago
That's me in the green hat lol!!
noisyRhy 2 years ago
Although I don't agree with everything Gene does, he's right in this.
RHMETAL 2 years ago
I will take on Gene and Bob any day of the week they know fuck all! I wait your answer Gene and Bob!
DickVain41 2 years ago
Lefsetz made a huge strategic error, and if you read his blog, it is obvious because he does it all the time. He gets very insulting to the people that he doesn't like, and that begs the question as to why he needs to do this. He also kisses asses of those who have given him a modicum of attention, unlike Simmons, a well-known asshole, notwithstanding. Bob fauns over other egregious assholes like Bruce Allen and his "buddy" Jake Gold. His antics demonstrate only his obvious insecurity
ankhfkhonsu 2 years ago 3
Gene Simmons is far and away the BIGGEST TOOL the music industry has ever had to suffer through. And anyone here who thinks Lefsetz doesn't know exactly what he's talking about, is a complete fool. If Gene were even remotely right about Lefsetz being a nobody, why did he (1) go so upset over the email, and (2) wind up debating him in a public forum like this?
Answer: Because Gene Simmons is an utter fool.
djc43077 2 years ago 7
lefsetz is a nobody.
he has no music business credentials.
what has he done????
absolutely nothing...but whine on his blog.....and kiss irving azoffs ass every chance he gets.
madshadows830 2 years ago
what lefsetz has done, besides spout his opinions in his newsletter, is this: he apparently has a law degree, but he doesn't practice, so i guess he's a failed lawyer. as far as i know, he was fired from the only real music industry job he ever had, which was at sanctuary.
so basically, yeah... he's done nothing that deserves any respect whatsoever.
1picturethis 2 years ago
you have no idea who you are talking about...look up Sanctuary Records on Wikipedia...
hawkinsted 2 years ago
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1picturethis 2 years ago
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you're a tool if you think that reading lefsetz's letter gives you any real insight into the music industry. he doesnt DO anything, except stir up shit about OTHER people's business. he's a schmuck.
i think gene responded because A) if someone attacks you in print to all your peers, you're entitled to respond. B) CMW organizers asked him to do it to create a buzz for their own event. C) if he said no to debating him, he'd look like he backed down to someone like lefsetz.
1picturethis 2 years ago
No really......who the hell is he anyways????
Talk about squirming in ones seat.
madshadows830 2 years ago
yeah, it's embarrassing to watch lefsetz shrink in his seat and fidget like a 12-year-old boy, staring at his shoes, sighing and rolling his eyeballs like a brat when gene tries to talk. at least gene's professional enough to sit up in his chair. lefsetz acts like a little baby.
1picturethis 2 years ago
Hey Bob,
Opinions are like assholes.... everybody's got one.
rocksinger45 2 years ago
Bob is an a-hole. What kind of person starts off their "introduction" by asking such a rude question? Gene perhaps isn't the nicest guy on earth, and yes, he's all about making money and he doesn't try to hide that. Who the hell is Bob to attack him so viciously for starting a business? This is just inflammatory B.S. on Bob's part, to give himself some attention and credibility for doing nothing, essentially. He's a scourge on the music business, a self-appointed critic who adds no value.
1picturethis 2 years ago
As Simmons asks....What are his qualifications? What has he done?
Absolutely nothing. No experience whatsoever.
madshadows830 2 years ago
You're in idiot if you think that, much like Gene.
djc43077 2 years ago
Bob Lefsetz : former head of Sanctuary records (look it up), music biz attorney, former label consultant.....Gene Simmons:made millions by putting on makeup..
hawkinsted 2 years ago 3
Sanctuary never got off the ground in the US....So know what the fuck you are talking about.
After it's huge failure in England and bankruptcy,it's deals cut with companies like Trinifold fell apart.
They never got off the floor here in the U.S. Lefsuctz biggest claim to fame I see is blackie lawless ROTFLMAO!!!!!
That's like being involved with the bass player from Angel LMFAO!!!!!!
madshadows830 2 years ago
What you won't find on Google or Wikipedia is that Bob got fired from Sanctuary, the only 'label' he worked with. He's a lawyer that doesn't practice. Based on that background he's a "music consultant"?? B.S. He's a little wanker with a yappy bark, like Gene says.
1picturethis 2 years ago
Thank you.
Arkturasbalboa 2 years ago
don't forget being a hell of a showman and making brilliant career moves dumb ass.
asparrow 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
fatty wants attention
mrbrownstone9 2 years ago
Gene is a twat, always has been, always will be - asshole...
slumpytube 2 years ago 5
please upload whole thing
mrbrownstone9 2 years ago 2
Wow - Bob - you done good. its all a schill anyway
tornebrookmafia 2 years ago
It's*AMUSING*to*watch*them*TEAR*each*other*NEW*ONES!!!HA!!!
mrbuster1964 2 years ago