expect to get paid. People are just too touchy about offending Muslims and being dubbed islamophobic. To not pay for someone's religion is not Islamophobic.
Don't really know much about him; I'm not that into american politics. He does seem like an absolute douchebag. However, I make him right on this. Why the hell should a company pay for you to break your contract for religious reasons. You get paid, to work. The employer and employee both benefit from this. But if you're not working, that's fine, but why should you get paid? If I were to take a year off as an Athiest and see the world for it's true beauty (my beliefs are upheld by facts) I...
gays supported end of slavery in America... And also gays supported equal rights for women n blacks! n its impressive of how most black Americans are showing their support for us! FUCK U CAIN!!!!!!!
So, now the argument will likely, "Well, this isn't a private business. This woman was a public employee." Yeah and so what? What's the difference? Public employees are still expected to show up to work on time everyday just like everyone else. What this is, simply, is political correctness run amock and special privileges for Muslims. If a Catholic had claimed he needed to take leave to go visit the Vatican for a month, he would have been fired and you would have never heard about it.
Where exactly in this interview does Herman Cain support discrimination? What he says is absolutely correct. A company hires a person to do a job and they are expected to be there to actively engage in the job. Aside from maternity leave, disability, federal holidays, and pre-negotiated vacation time, most businesses do not allow their employees to just take an extended personal leave whenever they feel like it no matter the reason. They need a worker who will reliably show up to work.
Republican Logic: Freedom of religion! .....What? A non-Christian wants freedom religion?! Go work somewhere else! Obama is wasting his time when there are more urgent matters to deal with! Now let's stop gay men and women from getting married!
Republicans/Conservatives....holding human evolution back one stupid comment at a time.
''The last time I checked...'' must have been a while, Herman, b/c this woman worked for the public school system, where she has specific rights under the law. And PS: you'd rather have the DOJ ''enforce'' the Defense of Marriage Act? Seeing as though that doesnt exist as a federal law and as such is in no way the purview of the DOJ, that'd be pretty entertaining to see that happen, you fucking idiot. Cain is literally too stupid to even know how stupid he is.
@hstg98 You clearly don't know what you're talking about. The Defense of Marriage Act is a federal law, sir, that defines marriage as being between one man and one woman. President Obama, being the head of the executive branch of government, had an obligation to uphold and enforce the law as it was passed by Congress and he failed to do so. Imagine if all law enforcement could just pick and choose which laws they decide to enforce and which they don't. We'd be talking about absolute chaos.
Looks like we've seen the last of Cain for awhile. Hope he goes away quietly. He never had a chance, even before the stories came out. He's a black man without black support, has no experience whatsoever, and is ignorant on key issues. Most Americans, white or black, would have rejected his narrow, polarizing view. The more exposure he got, the more most moderates were turned off. The fact that he got any traction is a reflection of the poor quality of the GOP field.
he would not have a muslim in his cabinet for the fear that they were all terrorists.the cabinet refused to have him cuz al monkey nig nog niggers are sexual predators and rapists.oh sorry am i being prejudiced
Are you kidding me? In one sentence he bitches that it's purely political, and in the very next he says he wants them to enforce the defense of marriage act, SOMETHING PURELY POLITICAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
So for anyone who says this is an endorsement of 'discrimmination', simply don't recognize how their rights will constantly be stripped away for not looking at facts.
Herman Cain reminds me of the Spike Lee Joint "Bamboozled". He is the black man parading for the white folks. His name is so apt. Cain was the brother in the bible who murdered his brother and then, when he is asked where his brother is he answers "Am I my brother's keeper?"
@myassin2009 Its called an alliteration. I was making a comparison in behavior which I feel is both apt and on topic. Feel free to disagree. His character is in question regardless of my comment or its validity.
CAIN IS JUST WINGING IT, lets face it he made pizza's! Who thought this guy would be good for us?? = Domino's, Pizza Hut, Papa John's, Little Caesars, Noble Romans's Pizza, Casey's Cary Out Pizza, Papa Murphy's, and Sbarro's Italian Eatery!! All these companies are bigger than the one Herman Cain ran. Maybe the FED, or Alan Greenspan told this guy to run. Who likes this guy? He's full of shit!!
So far, I haven't found anyone around here who supports Herman Cain, and I live in a red state. The polls say that he has support; I think they're manipulated so that the views he espouses get air time. Who in there right mind would vote as president a former pizza executive; one who paid the vast majority of his employees minimum wage with no benefits, and claims that poverty is the fault of the individual? He's right; It would be our fault for electing a candidate for the owner class.
@Gaelheretic4 Most of the great presidents never met a payroll. Lincoln is a good example. The day government becomes a business we're all in trouble. Also, the worship of the rich; the idea that they're smarter by virtue of their wallet size is a dangerous notion. There is no room for conscience in commerce, for business is business. That makes most businessmen unfit for office. Their motivation is self interest. Great for a company, bad for a country.
@bruceduece1 I think you don't get my question hens why you didn't answer it, you run a successful country like you run a successful business through leadership. My Grandpa taught me that and he was a banker, it doesn't matter anyway Herman just announced that he's not running anymore, I don't care if he's running or not I'm voting for him.
@Gaelheretic4 I did get your question. Yes, I would vote for someone who never met a payroll, probably over someone who did. Look at your comment. You were taught to believe that bankers possess leadership because they're bankers. People don't become bankers because they want to lead. Leadership can come from any walk of life. I repeat, government and business have different agendas; hence most businessmen make poor political leaders.
@bruceduece1 Well you answered honestly and truthfully, You will learn that a man that only spends and spends without being accountable does not know how to run a country very well.
@Gaelheretic4 That would be every modern president. Every president in modern times has failed, all the way to Eisenhower (who I admire). Each one increased spending and told at least one giant fib, to boot. The history of the US for the last 50+ years will be one of recording our decline. Question: If they all fell short, can it be a reflection on the people who endorsed them? America lost its way in its pursuit of luxury and greed. The failure of leadership is only a reflection of that.
@bruceduece1 Your ignorance is colossal if you think that G.H.W. Bush, Bush Jr., Clinton and last but CERTAINLY not least Obama have even run local business. Your just trying to make an argument because you like the attention, I'll answer your question and then I'm not talking anymore, of course Greed has something to do with lack of leadership. It's not a leader like quality, good day.
@Gaelheretic4 You and others like you will never see the light until you realize that government is not, and should not be treated as a business. The purpose of government is to serve the Social Contract; to improve the human condition. The purpose of business is to make a profit. Elected governments were created to eliminate elitism, not promote it. A ruling class composed of the wealthy undermines citizen rule, becoming self serving.
@bruceduece1 Thats kind of why I can't believe the amount of support Romney gets. I Mean he is the type of 1%er buisness con man Americans hate, and now they're electing him..huh?
Herman Cain has been hired and used by the Koch brothers, to further thier minority crushing, rich white people protecting agenda, Mr Cain is acually officially on the payroll, pushing a cold "white racist" agenda on his own people, he gets paid to say the things they wish they could, like if you dont have a job its your own fault and racism doesnt exist anymore, these are the things white racist men say around the water cooler, now they found a black guy they could use to spew that crap!!!!!
@samantha11363 So true, Samantha! Herman Cain represents racism in its most virulent form. Why is it that his policies would benefit only a handful, yet he's supported by millions who would suffer under him? His support among the masses is rooted in jealousy, mistrust, and hatred. Most people don't even know the Koch brothers and how, along with Murdoch, they are pulling the strings of ignorance. We should be angry that Cain is even running. It assumes national ignorance and provincialism.
@samantha11363 Right on! Cain represents the worst form of racism; the kind that uses a front man to further the policies of exclusion. Cain is much like Clarence Thomas; the benficiary of policies that promoted equality, but upon reaching the mountaintop, turns his back not only on those very policies, but the people who seek to follow.
People come on ,Wake up , Cain I think is just doing a satire on American Politics. Old Herman has been pulling your leg I'm not kidding. He is not for real. We have all been Punked Herman is the biggest and best Troll of all time. Thank you Herman for waking us dummies up.
yeah, typical liberals, pointing out that herman cain is a bigoted cunt, and an a grade idiot who knows nothing about economics. Using 'liberal' as a pejorative for anyone who disagrees with you doesn't cut it, especially when when it's used as a synonym for 'anyone who doesn't hate gays, muslims(and other non-christians) and the welfare state'.
typical idiots like you... who the wealthy can fucking care less about.......... think about your position in society because these rich folks like this HERMAN CANT can fucking careless about your dumbass.
Herman Cain is a boot-licking, ass kissing, song&dance, smiling monkey, TOM-ASS NIGGA. I would love to spit in his face, and then slap the shit hell out of this low-life piece of shit. CHECK THIS OUT-------> If Republicans were to find out Tom Cain dated a White female, they would dump this bastard faster than they dumped Palin for fucking Glen Rice. ...and Obama is just as bad as Bush. TOM CAIN for TOP SMILING MONKEY!
This guy would be a complete asshole to work for! You can tell from all his comments on work ethic that he would run a business like a drill sgt. Now yes that gets the job done but shows insensitivity and greed and he is the type that gets shot with a shotgun after he fires a guy because he was off too many days because his daughter was sick or something. Fake ass black conservative uncle tom!
@tom11zz884 you mean like how people on the right constantly refer to liberals as socialists with the obvious insinuation of communism? like how far right fanatics that have taken over the republican party to a large degree ignore the vast body of evidence from the scientific community regarding evolution, climate change etc., cherry picking stuff that supports their worldview and filtering out everything that doesn't?
@commentersareidiots1 Right on! How is it that socialism, an idea rooted in justice and part of the national fabric for a century, has somehow been equated with Marxism? If we abolish socialism in all forms, it will take the votes of millions of beneficiaries! Right too, on the lies from the right. When faced with research that contradicts their claims, they call the researchers atheists. Why believe a party that spreads ignorance?
The title is relevant because Cain said DOMA, which IS discrimination based on sexual preference, was more important than the issue they were discussing.
However, I do agree with him that employer rights are also important. But, I'd want to know more of the specifics before deciding which side I'd support.
@tom11zz884 Oh yes, they are a side show when it comes to not looking at facts. And I have personal experience on what Cain is speaking on. At a job I worked, there were MANY employees who were Islam. The company made provisions for their beliefs, such as unused office space for their prayer rituals, on 2nd shift they were allowed to eat their meal before the sun went down while others had to stick to the schedule. But if a Christian were ASKED anything about their faith, You get written up.
@Tsuruta1 Does it really matter to you what time another worker gets his meal? Are you sure your outrage isn't really the suspicion that someone else is getting a better deal? Believe it or not, bigotry can be described as believing irrationally that another group is getting something you can't. You protest too much.
@bruceduece1 I'd expect you to give me a narrow-minded response like that based on the nonsense you've posted so far. Islam is NOT a RACE, therefore 'bigotry' doesn't apply! The point you clearly don't get is that you can't keep accomdating people in the workplace when a business has given you their rules up front. The person Cain was asked about, knew the rules at her job BEFORE she took it, and her religion doesn't give her privileges above or exonerates her from the rules others agreed to..
@bruceduece1 And as for that crack about "my outrage over someone else getting a better deal", that's YOUR agenda.
From that statement shows that you think with a entitlement mindset at any place you work. I take a job, use only what it offers, and use my time to create income on the side. I'm a fitness trainer, and I have another business. I don't BEG for more from them, whereas someone like YOU, are someone who gets on your employer's LAST NERVE for more handouts!
@Tsuruta1 First, you need to look up the word bigotry. It definitely can pertain to religion. Also, you talk of entitlement. Have you ever heard of rights? There something every human being is born with and cannot be taken away. You're so worried over who gets to eat first, though. I'm sure that's important. As far as getting everything I can from my employer, you bet! He gets everything he can from me. If I depended on his kindness, I'd go hungry. That's why I have a contract.
@bruceduece1 There's no bigotry when a business says you're religion does not entitle you to be gone as long as you want, you already have paid vacations and sometimes paid sick leave. And yes you do have rights, AND so do the businesses. There's NO LAW that a business HAS to hire you to begin with. And if you go hungry, that's not your employer's fault. Still thinking with an entitlement mindset I see.
This does NOT show ANY discrimination. Gee wiz, why do the liberals want "special treatment" for who THEY deem a minority. Just that mentality is discriminatory--stupid.
@WongOmowale No he doesn't. The reason why he wouldn't have a Muslim in his admin is because he wants to be sure that the ppl in his admin would be COMMITTED to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Muslim's normally are NOT for this country. BUT if someone who happens to be a Muslim and is willing to COMPLETELY commit to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights then he would have one in his admin. He is against the Shriah law and this is fine with me. Esp. since that law is a law of hate.
I'm not voting for Herman Cain because he was head of the KC federal reserve, which means he works for the elite bankers that are ruining the economy. He's one of THEM. But I agree with what he was saying here. If your religion conflicts with your job, get a new job.
“And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion, you know, they have an objective to convert all infidels or kill them,” Cain said on in a March 21 article in Christianity Today.
this guy is hilarious. you know what, i want him to be president so comedians can stay in business!!
the Sharia is like the Jewish "Halakha". designed for those who believe in Islam. it is not a law ( at least not any more). it is fascinating that the idiots who are willing to discriminate against people cannot realize they are being bigots. Just admit you hate Muslims and Mexicans just like you used (perhaps still) hate Blacks, Jews, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans etc... Herman is a joke and has a very short memory !!!
This guy is so stupid that is not even funny! i don't know what to say except that The Arabs are having revolutions for democracy. America is not doing anything and its population is getting dumber every day. Get the hell out of the middle east, stop signing deals with dictators behind the scene for oil and you wouldn't worry about any evil blood sucking Muslim imposing Sharia "law"! oh btw, no country in the world has the sharia as a judicial system. not even freaking Saudi Arabia!!!
I didn't see the discrimination here. Did I miss something? I wouldn't expect to be able to take off work to celebrate religious holidays if the company didn't close for those holidays. And I would fully expect to be fired or disciplined if I didn't come to work on those days. If you want to go on a religious journey, please feel free and I totally support you, but don't expect a company to save your job until you're ready to come back. They have to make sure they keep the company running.
Not only is it wrong, its breach of contract on the side of the employee. If you accept a job saying you'll work such and such days/time, then turn around and refuse to work those days/time, I don't care what the reason is, you're breaking the original contract you made with the employer, perhaps you may have misrepresented yourself to him when you applied for and accepted the job in the first place, both of which are grounds to have you summarily dismissed with no warning or last cheque.
No way, whoever titled this is a genius. I hope thousands of people watch this looking for dirt on Herman Cain and find that he they agree with him. Not everybody is a brainwashed moron. So whenever someone can explain the rules of the work place like he does, those who are not political hacks (a.k.a. kool-aid drinkers) will listen and hear common sense.
If media folks are going to attack Herman Cain for false things. Hey people Obama is Discriminating against, Whites, African Americans, Orientals, American Indians and legal Mexicans. read comment below why Obama is Discriminating against all af these americans (Question can any of you do the things that Muslims get away with)
Question can any of you do the things that Muslims get away with. They can build public building in residential zones. They can pat down themselves at airports. They can break set rules in the work place. They can protest violently with out repercussions. They can control where a Christian can hand out pamphlets, They cry racism and actual listed too every time.
How in tar nation is this discrimination? I worked for a school and I waited like every one else did for there vacation. Rules are rules you follow them or don’t take the job. you know the only reason this Muslim woman did this is because she knew she could get away with it because she is Muslim when’s the last time you heard a white, a Mexican, a Christian any one else do the things that Muslims has been doing lately. WHEN preferential treatment for them only NO WAY
Did you watch the vid? Listen to his tone. Also another vid where he said that he wouldn't hire a muslim for his cabinet unless he could prove that they didn't want to introduce sharia law... Seriously?
@Ladiesman1447 Yes I heard his tone, that's just the way he speaks. To add, he has a sound point due to the fact that Muslim extremists have proven just how aggressive they can be. Sharia law doesn't belong in U.S. government.
@Ladiesman1447 First of all, you're a citizen of Austrailia, I'M a citizen of the U.S. I've SEEN the "creeping attempt" as Cain described it, when Muslims have been allowed privledges based on their beliefs, when other employees had to stick to the rules of the workplace, and the fights that would have erupted if it were still in business after 9-11. You allow them any momentum, then you'll have the same problem that other countries are facing like those in Europe. So you get real!
Yeah, you've seen it in the same way McCarthy saw communism creeping in. It's paranoia, and unrealistic. Why would a Muslim who wants to introduce sharia law go to work for a guy like Cain in the first place? How does that even make sense? The whole 'screening' process is completely unnecessary, say you don't want Sharia law, fine, but don't say you want to screen Muslims, there's a big difference, and it goes towards his mindset on the issue.
@Ladiesman1447 Muslim extremists are not concerned about who to work for to introduce Sharia law, they want Sharia law everywhere IN everything. There is an upload on YT called "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West."
Those are extremists, they're not the majority. You're dealing with this "muslim issue" the wrong way, it's divisive and you're alienating them. Like the ground zero mosque issue, why the hell shouldn't they be able to build one there? That's like a muslim saying "I don't want a church built near my house because Christians are pedophiles", labeling and ostracising a whole group based on the actions of a few.
@Ladiesman1447 Kid, you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. I gave you the name of an upload to look at, there's also Brigitte Gabriel, who's written book entitled "Because They Hate", which explains their actions and agenda AND who's lived through their terrorism, Walid Shoebat, a former PLO Palestinian member of the Hamas, and as for your mentioning of them building a mosque near Ground Zero and what that's all about, that's cinches why you don't know their agenda at all..
I stopped reading at 'kid', literally. If you want to have a debate like an adult, then act like one, then I'll converse with you again, otherwise this discussion is over.
@Ladiesman1447 As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing further to discuss. You with that "get real" and then failing to acknowledge the clips I sent you of people who debunk your opinion. *chuckling* AND don't you ever think you know more about Herman Cain than I. That you will never do.
@Tsuruta1 Frankly, I'm MUCH more worried about what the US government might do, than what a few hundred or thousand discredited fundamentalists psychos might do.
"Sharia Law" Muslims are such a tiny minority as to be a ridiculous threat.
Every recent FBI case of "Muslim Domestic Terrorism" were Muslims motivated by rage over the carnage the US has brought to Iraq, and by the Israel/Palestinian issue, rather than a desire for Sharia.
@zyodei I'm sure many of the people of Iraq have been thankful for the so-called "carnage" the U.S. brought, hepling them to get rid of the evil dark cloud (Hussein) and his Ba'ath party they were under.
@MrSupra7 And who was it that tried, convicted, AND executed Hussein for his crimes against humanity in his own country?? the U.S. or Iraq? Don't try to confuse U.S. interaction and intervention as an act of malice toward the people of Iraq, that's ridiculous..
@Tsuruta1 i know thats know why we went, but how does it look to the iraqi people? do you even know anyone who has been to iraq? they hate us, sure we helped with Hussein, but that doesnt mean they cant hate us or remember who put Hussein in power in the first place(US). oh and i dont see a real "creeping attempt" fro sharia, but if you are worried about religious law, then look to the bible belt the Christian have already passed laws forbidding certain things, like buying alcohol on sunday.
@MrSupra7 The latter part of your reply, irrelevant. And you're not looking at the result of what can happen when you allow Muslims little by little, to build momentum in allowing their views, you'll end up with another Lebanon, Cordoba, or the like. Don't accept what I say? Fine. But you'll never convince someone like Brigitte Gabriel, or Walid Shoebat otherwise. You have no understanding on the goal of the Muslim and their coercive attempts.
@Tsuruta1 its not irrelevant you only choose for it to be because they Christians doing it and not muslims what about abortion clinic bombing?. so you really think every single muslim is evil wants to kill us? and that fundamentalist Christian are any different? sharia law will never take hold here ever, its just another bogeyman like the japs, or the reds, we like to have a target. no Americans will allow it to happen ever. everyone has their nut jobs bud, mcveigh, westboro,louis faracon,
@MrSupra7 I don't base the actions of others to determine the teachings of the Bible or the Koran, I compare the teachings between the two FIRST. Nor do I juxtapose one's personal faith, one's applique of it to determine "how good" of a Christian they are in regards to Christians. What you've done is tossed out the Bible because of one's misuse of it.
@Tsuruta1 and you do base the actions of others for the koran otherwise you would not feel the way you do about muslims.the teachings are very similar, they both tell you to kill infidels,they both say its ok to have slave, both say not to eat pork, both believe in Jesus among many other similarities. i have long tossed the bible and the koran they both have to much wrong with them, some good guidelines but not to live you life by. there 1800 absurdities in the bible and over 450 contradictions
@MrSupra7 There is no comparison of the Bible to the Koran whatsoever, the Bible does NOT instruct anyone in any similar fashion that the Koran instructs. Any reading you attempted was done without genuine interest and discernment.
@Tsuruta1 how so, there are plenty of passages that say kill this person for x, like borrowing money being gay and etc. i have been christian my whole life until i got old enough to question some things. now i dont believe in the bible at all to much hate and contradictions in there, i only use it for some moral guidelines. i still believe in god just not a christian or muslim or jewish god.
@MrSupra7 That is under Mosaic Law in which the people of Israel (Jewish people) were commanded by God not to worship false gods. I knew you would try something like that.
@Tsuruta1 iti s still in the bible, and pretty much all of Deuteronomy is stuff like that. judges 2.1-2.3 and7.4 revelations 13.14-13.15 2 chronicles 15.13 2 Samuel 5.8. there are many more. im just saying there is a lot of hate and kill this person for this in the bible too. so the ones who dont take the whole bible and koran literally are good, like i have been saying it is just extremest.
@MrSupra7 In the Bible, and taken out of context. Which is what you atheists are notorious for doing. I don't hear Cain speaking about killing anyone, he's pointing out in this clip how one just can't take an inordinate amount of time off work apart the rules of the workplace, and you and who uploaded this clip somehow are deeming that as 'discrimmination'.
@Tsuruta1 sorry bub not an atheist. so who is to say the the extremest Muslims dont take the koran out of context? and we have not been talking about the specific discrimination case, nice try to change the subject but we have been talking about extreme muslims and christians. but to answer you question it is called a sabatacle and teachers used to be able to take them all the time, and they would get a sub to fill their spot for a few weeks. thats how this becomes discrimination,
@Tsuruta1 also it would be a direct violation of the equal opportunity employer act. so if cain said the same thing about a christian, how would you feel? how about if all the candidates started saying, well i dont want jews in my cabinet, how bout if Romney said he wants no catholics in my cabinet, or what if bacchman said she only want protestants, or if pwalenty said i only want muslims. how are those any different?
@MrSupra7 That's yet another attribute of the liberal mindest that those like you attempt. Hypothetic, off-topic, copious, irrelevancy. This clip is about Cain's opinion on an employee trying to take an inordinate amount of time off the job, and someone calling it "discrimination." Stay on topic.
@Tsuruta1 there you go assuming things again, sorry not a lib. i would have worked on his campaign here in GA but he lost me long before this. its still a form of discrimination, as lame as it is, all they have to do is get a sub and her call it a sabbatical, done the whole thing cloud have been avoided. and im on our topic what we have been talking about. so really who is guilty Hypothetic, off-topic, copious, irrelevancy?nice try on your part to dodge my ?s about other candidates doing it.
@MrSupra7 He wouldn't want you campaigning for him because you don't stand for anything. And that is THE most bullcrap thing I've heard yet. Getting someone a substitute?!?!? BULLCRAP! No one in any workplace should get privileges above others. Follow the rules of the workplace like everyone else, or get another job, OR go into business for yourself. People like you better learn to live at home, NOT at your job!
@Tsuruta1 there you go assuming things again,you dont know what i stand for(im a libertarian). do you even know what a sabbatical is? its a vacation, so that all she had to do, and she has to pay for the sub. can you even read? i agree with the privileges part, thats why i said simple solution. and there you go assuming i dont conform to workplace guidelines. since you like to assume so much let me go once, i bet you are social conservative and fiscal con. i agree with fiscal. but can govt GTFO
@MrSupra7 Now you claim to be a libertarian, but you elect to be clandestine, and not forthcoming, attempting to play games. Very liberal to me. Brought up all kinds of irrelevant, non-sequiturs just to accuse someone of discrimination, Didn't "keep it simple" did you. As for your 'simple solution' how do you know if there rules that permit one to pay for a sub, in order to take a sabbatical?? One just can't demand the workplace to exclusively give one what they want if the rules are in place.
@Tsuruta1 still assuming. and we have not been talking about this case the whole time, only till the last 4 comment when you brought it up. i thought we were talking about muslims in general the whole time. because i have 1 friend that is a principal and said it would work. but i dont agree with it,like i said i dont agree with the privileges.no shit sherlock but they can ask and see if it is possible, or talk about doing over the summer when she is "off". how many time are you going to dodge ?s
@MrSupra7 Keep that profanity out of it, I didn't use any toward you, got it? That teacher didn't ask to leave over the summer, or schedule it on vacation time. That teacher asked to depart as if one can just take off anytime one says so and take all the time one wants, does NOT work that way. Allow that, then everyone will demand the same privlege. Follow the rules, get another job, or become self-employed. I favor the latter being that I'm working toward that myself, nothing for me to "dodge."
@Tsuruta1 lol really you cant handle an expression, sorry, how about you do me a favor and stop name calling i haven't done it to you. i know she didnt and i have said i dont agree with it, and i tried to show a simple solution, but obviously you cant read. all iv done is try to show you how she could have a case, but all you have done is repeated the same thing over and over privileges!!! look here is case that a muslim won under the bush admin.EEOC v. Southern Hills Medical Center more coming
@Tsuruta1 now the EEOC has fought for christians to take 8-10 day off per year just to talk to jesus, and they have done it about 10 times. do you know why she had/wanted to go this year? i asked if you were a social conservative and fiscal, i also asked how you would feel if the other candidate said they didnt want Christian, Jews,or catholics.or the ? about muslims taking the koran out of context like those bible verses. so yes i did ask you questions.
@Tsuruta1 skepticsannotedbibledotcom will help they also have the koran. he admits he knows nothing about musllims so how can he make a good decision on the subject. like you accused me of don't base the actions of others to determine the teachings of the Bible or the Koran, I compare the teachings between the two FIRST. Nor do I juxtapose one's personal faith, one's applique of it to determine "how good" except for muslims in this case. unless according to you, one muslims mess up all are bad.
@MrSupra7 No way will I look at any secular, atheistic websites to explain the Bible, that's like mixing oil with water. He knows PLENTY enough about the insidious attempt that certain Muslim people, the more extremist members will try. He, like myself, unlike you, does genuine research, listens to people who left the Islamic faith, and hears the testimonies of those who witnessed Muslim oppression. There are even uploads on YT to show them and more, but obviously you won't look at them.
@Tsuruta1 yes cause it is a total atheist site, also i said go for examples not an explanation. and he knows nothing he said it himself in an interview. sounds to me like you dont want to see that on YT. nice to finally see you say certain instead of making blanket statements. you obviously don't do any research otherwise you might find that the muslims you are talking about are less than 5% of muslims. and because of your faith you cant look into your own faith and see the problems.
@Tsuruta1 cont but thats ok because they are Christians... i m not saying i want shraia law but its not that much different than what the Christians have done here is the US. people like cain and santorum who want to legislate morality. but this coming from someone who lived through segregation should know how it feels to be treaded with such disrespect. he is segregating Muslims. and this is like McCarthyism, or it may even turn into what we did to the Japanese.
@Tsuruta1 Umm...are you aware of what life is like in modern day Iraq? For many people, it has been years and years of perpetual and unavoidable fear and terror, being unable to leave the house. Severe birth defect rates have skyrocketed in areas where we used lots of DU (Fallujah for instance).
After all that, the Baathists have been replaced by radical Islamists and Iranian-backed Shias.
Doesn't seem like a very good use of $1Trillion+tens or hundreds of thousands of lives to me.
@zyodei The internal affairs of Iraq, we nor anyone else can fully fix. What matters now is that Hussein is no longer here to create the distubance that the U.S. and others were spending $ just to anticipate. The quarrels between Shia and Sunni, that's on them.
@Tsuruta1 Muslims represent no credible threat to America. Certainly some of them WANT to turn America into a muslim state. But it's a small, weak minority.
In 1931, Hitler gained power as an anti-communist. The Communists were mostly Jewish. So, he equated Judaism with Communism. Now, there were some Jews who were Communists and wanted to turn Germany into a Communist hellhole like the USSR. But they were a weak minority. The reaction against them, grouping them ALL together, was far worse.
Media Matters. There you go trying to mislead people again. When passion overtakes logic, the truth is the first victim. He wasn't discriminating against anyone. He said that if a person wants to take off more time than allowed by the company, then they should not be allowed to work there.
Still, you can't accept the truth of something because of your passion for liberalism.
expect to get paid. People are just too touchy about offending Muslims and being dubbed islamophobic. To not pay for someone's religion is not Islamophobic.
ryanrcoughlan 3 days ago
Don't really know much about him; I'm not that into american politics. He does seem like an absolute douchebag. However, I make him right on this. Why the hell should a company pay for you to break your contract for religious reasons. You get paid, to work. The employer and employee both benefit from this. But if you're not working, that's fine, but why should you get paid? If I were to take a year off as an Athiest and see the world for it's true beauty (my beliefs are upheld by facts) I...
ryanrcoughlan 3 days ago
no wonder those people in that room likes him.
Useyno 1 week ago
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! i fucking LOVE this guy!!! LMFAO!!!!!!
BritishFreedom1 1 week ago
Fucking nigger.
fiscornioman 1 month ago
Anyone who is against Herman Cain or thinks that he is racist is a FUCKING IDIOT
Scattnam 1 month ago
@Scattnam
Oh, it must be opposite of reality day...
shelton705 2 weeks ago
@shelton705
ur retarded.
Scattnam 1 week ago
@Scattnam
Says the douche that uses Internet slang and thinks Cain is a decent person. LMAO!
shelton705 1 week ago
@shelton705
special ed talk.
Scattnam 5 hours ago
@Scattnam
Ignorant little shithead.
jmario232 1 week ago
his makes me puke, literally!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
gays supported end of slavery in America... And also gays supported equal rights for women n blacks! n its impressive of how most black Americans are showing their support for us! FUCK U CAIN!!!!!!!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
So, now the argument will likely, "Well, this isn't a private business. This woman was a public employee." Yeah and so what? What's the difference? Public employees are still expected to show up to work on time everyday just like everyone else. What this is, simply, is political correctness run amock and special privileges for Muslims. If a Catholic had claimed he needed to take leave to go visit the Vatican for a month, he would have been fired and you would have never heard about it.
LedWhisky69 2 months ago
Where exactly in this interview does Herman Cain support discrimination? What he says is absolutely correct. A company hires a person to do a job and they are expected to be there to actively engage in the job. Aside from maternity leave, disability, federal holidays, and pre-negotiated vacation time, most businesses do not allow their employees to just take an extended personal leave whenever they feel like it no matter the reason. They need a worker who will reliably show up to work.
LedWhisky69 2 months ago
the movie The Good (Obama) The Bad (Cain) & his Ugly wife
speedoflite1 2 months ago
This is why some people are forced to work on Christmas. Praise the Lord.
USASecretHistory 2 months ago
herman cain is a racist, whether he is black or not
RunnerReign 2 months ago
Muslims are evil sinful creatures. I love Herman
Scattnam 2 months ago
@Scattnam You're pathetic..
iTitanium 1 month ago
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Muslim american hear you have been warn long time ago by Malcolm X watch this video.
Malcolm X:Field Negro speech
like this kind in basil. Cain headed ======= look at his head kkkkk
sheekoxarir 2 months ago
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Muslim american hear you have been warn long time ago by Malcolm X watch this video.
Malcolm X:Field Negro speech
like this kind in basil. Cain headed ======= look at his head kkkkk
sheekoxarir 2 months ago
Republican Logic: Freedom of religion! .....What? A non-Christian wants freedom religion?! Go work somewhere else! Obama is wasting his time when there are more urgent matters to deal with! Now let's stop gay men and women from getting married!
Republicans/Conservatives....holding human evolution back one stupid comment at a time.
Crisrav1138 2 months ago
''The last time I checked...'' must have been a while, Herman, b/c this woman worked for the public school system, where she has specific rights under the law. And PS: you'd rather have the DOJ ''enforce'' the Defense of Marriage Act? Seeing as though that doesnt exist as a federal law and as such is in no way the purview of the DOJ, that'd be pretty entertaining to see that happen, you fucking idiot. Cain is literally too stupid to even know how stupid he is.
hstg98 2 months ago
@hstg98 You clearly don't know what you're talking about. The Defense of Marriage Act is a federal law, sir, that defines marriage as being between one man and one woman. President Obama, being the head of the executive branch of government, had an obligation to uphold and enforce the law as it was passed by Congress and he failed to do so. Imagine if all law enforcement could just pick and choose which laws they decide to enforce and which they don't. We'd be talking about absolute chaos.
LedWhisky69 2 months ago
Man If I was there I probably would have knocked him out, thank God I am not
Mr12inches1 2 months ago
Looks like we've seen the last of Cain for awhile. Hope he goes away quietly. He never had a chance, even before the stories came out. He's a black man without black support, has no experience whatsoever, and is ignorant on key issues. Most Americans, white or black, would have rejected his narrow, polarizing view. The more exposure he got, the more most moderates were turned off. The fact that he got any traction is a reflection of the poor quality of the GOP field.
bruceduece1 3 months ago
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he would not have a muslim in his cabinet for the fear that they were all terrorists.the cabinet refused to have him cuz al monkey nig nog niggers are sexual predators and rapists.oh sorry am i being prejudiced
butt47jk 3 months ago
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Larryboy12345 3 months ago
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HERMAN JUST DROPPED FROM RUNNING...
THANK GOD & GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago
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HERMAN IS SAYS:
Being GAY in a COMMITED relationship is BAD
BUT
Being STRAIGHT in a RELATIONSHIP & HAVE MULTIPLE AFFAIRS is GOOD?
He's saying that being an ADULTER is more acceptable then a loyal Gay Couple?
By the way HE'S BISEXUAL cause bi's are the ONLY ones that can choose from one of the 2 sexes (he says that being gay is a choice)!
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago
Are you kidding me? In one sentence he bitches that it's purely political, and in the very next he says he wants them to enforce the defense of marriage act, SOMETHING PURELY POLITICAL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
More of the same. GTFO you dumb asshole.
chronDiggity 3 months ago
So for anyone who says this is an endorsement of 'discrimmination', simply don't recognize how their rights will constantly be stripped away for not looking at facts.
Tsuruta1 3 months ago
Herman Cain reminds me of the Spike Lee Joint "Bamboozled". He is the black man parading for the white folks. His name is so apt. Cain was the brother in the bible who murdered his brother and then, when he is asked where his brother is he answers "Am I my brother's keeper?"
TishTalons 3 months ago 4
@TishTalons It seems like you are trying to degrade the character of an individual based on a fantasy story. Lets try to stay on subject.
myassin2009 3 months ago
@myassin2009 Its called an alliteration. I was making a comparison in behavior which I feel is both apt and on topic. Feel free to disagree. His character is in question regardless of my comment or its validity.
TishTalons 3 months ago
In short: "Whoever pays you owns you. Shut up and work for less than you deserve."
DamazViccar 3 months ago
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Vote Obama 2012.
Jobs jobs jobs ,for all us Americans, it is all about The Economy!
ginofrater 3 months ago
do you think an white guy could have gotten away with saying that?
joshanator1 3 months ago
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Crackhead Jesus allegedly pushed Herman Cain's head down toward his crotch, in front of the White House, saying, "You want this job right?".
TeamBeautifulChaos 3 months ago
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This guy is an idiot.
telephone3409 3 months ago
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CAIN IS JUST WINGING IT, lets face it he made pizza's! Who thought this guy would be good for us?? = Domino's, Pizza Hut, Papa John's, Little Caesars, Noble Romans's Pizza, Casey's Cary Out Pizza, Papa Murphy's, and Sbarro's Italian Eatery!! All these companies are bigger than the one Herman Cain ran. Maybe the FED, or Alan Greenspan told this guy to run. Who likes this guy? He's full of shit!!
zentricky69 3 months ago
So far, I haven't found anyone around here who supports Herman Cain, and I live in a red state. The polls say that he has support; I think they're manipulated so that the views he espouses get air time. Who in there right mind would vote as president a former pizza executive; one who paid the vast majority of his employees minimum wage with no benefits, and claims that poverty is the fault of the individual? He's right; It would be our fault for electing a candidate for the owner class.
bruceduece1 3 months ago 6
@bruceduece1 Answer me just one question, do you think that someone who's never met a payroll should run for President?
Gaelheretic4 3 months ago
@Gaelheretic4 Most of the great presidents never met a payroll. Lincoln is a good example. The day government becomes a business we're all in trouble. Also, the worship of the rich; the idea that they're smarter by virtue of their wallet size is a dangerous notion. There is no room for conscience in commerce, for business is business. That makes most businessmen unfit for office. Their motivation is self interest. Great for a company, bad for a country.
bruceduece1 3 months ago
@bruceduece1 I think you don't get my question hens why you didn't answer it, you run a successful country like you run a successful business through leadership. My Grandpa taught me that and he was a banker, it doesn't matter anyway Herman just announced that he's not running anymore, I don't care if he's running or not I'm voting for him.
Gaelheretic4 3 months ago
@Gaelheretic4 I did get your question. Yes, I would vote for someone who never met a payroll, probably over someone who did. Look at your comment. You were taught to believe that bankers possess leadership because they're bankers. People don't become bankers because they want to lead. Leadership can come from any walk of life. I repeat, government and business have different agendas; hence most businessmen make poor political leaders.
bruceduece1 3 months ago
@bruceduece1 Well you answered honestly and truthfully, You will learn that a man that only spends and spends without being accountable does not know how to run a country very well.
Gaelheretic4 2 months ago
@Gaelheretic4 That would be every modern president. Every president in modern times has failed, all the way to Eisenhower (who I admire). Each one increased spending and told at least one giant fib, to boot. The history of the US for the last 50+ years will be one of recording our decline. Question: If they all fell short, can it be a reflection on the people who endorsed them? America lost its way in its pursuit of luxury and greed. The failure of leadership is only a reflection of that.
bruceduece1 2 months ago
@bruceduece1 Your ignorance is colossal if you think that G.H.W. Bush, Bush Jr., Clinton and last but CERTAINLY not least Obama have even run local business. Your just trying to make an argument because you like the attention, I'll answer your question and then I'm not talking anymore, of course Greed has something to do with lack of leadership. It's not a leader like quality, good day.
Gaelheretic4 2 months ago
@Gaelheretic4 You and others like you will never see the light until you realize that government is not, and should not be treated as a business. The purpose of government is to serve the Social Contract; to improve the human condition. The purpose of business is to make a profit. Elected governments were created to eliminate elitism, not promote it. A ruling class composed of the wealthy undermines citizen rule, becoming self serving.
bruceduece1 2 months ago
@bruceduece1 in alabama,atlanta.florida is voting for herman cain lets go mr cain 2012 hahahahahahahaha
da754boy 1 month ago
@bruceduece1 Thats kind of why I can't believe the amount of support Romney gets. I Mean he is the type of 1%er buisness con man Americans hate, and now they're electing him..huh?
FreedomForHale 1 month ago
Herman Cain has been hired and used by the Koch brothers, to further thier minority crushing, rich white people protecting agenda, Mr Cain is acually officially on the payroll, pushing a cold "white racist" agenda on his own people, he gets paid to say the things they wish they could, like if you dont have a job its your own fault and racism doesnt exist anymore, these are the things white racist men say around the water cooler, now they found a black guy they could use to spew that crap!!!!!
samantha11363 3 months ago
@samantha11363 So true, Samantha! Herman Cain represents racism in its most virulent form. Why is it that his policies would benefit only a handful, yet he's supported by millions who would suffer under him? His support among the masses is rooted in jealousy, mistrust, and hatred. Most people don't even know the Koch brothers and how, along with Murdoch, they are pulling the strings of ignorance. We should be angry that Cain is even running. It assumes national ignorance and provincialism.
bruceduece1 3 months ago
@samantha11363 Right on! Cain represents the worst form of racism; the kind that uses a front man to further the policies of exclusion. Cain is much like Clarence Thomas; the benficiary of policies that promoted equality, but upon reaching the mountaintop, turns his back not only on those very policies, but the people who seek to follow.
bruceduece1 3 months ago
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sivaniro 3 months ago
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People come on ,Wake up , Cain I think is just doing a satire on American Politics. Old Herman has been pulling your leg I'm not kidding. He is not for real. We have all been Punked Herman is the biggest and best Troll of all time. Thank you Herman for waking us dummies up.
johnnycmajor 3 months ago
he doesn't believe in trampling on the rights of employers, but says nothing about workers rights not being trampled. 'nuff said.
marcomariaz26 4 months ago
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oh look its the guy on that book tour, pretending to run for president and making a mockery of our Nation and its highest office....!!!!!!!!!!
samantha11363 4 months ago
does he wear a neckless ? is he gay ? he seems to be ..
kenwoodnas 4 months ago
America is still fighting the war against Aldaida, but we're losing the war against Al Sharpton.
richwhiteboy762 4 months ago
@richwhiteboy762 "Aldaida" lol...
marcomariaz26 4 months ago
yeah, typical liberals, pointing out that herman cain is a bigoted cunt, and an a grade idiot who knows nothing about economics. Using 'liberal' as a pejorative for anyone who disagrees with you doesn't cut it, especially when when it's used as a synonym for 'anyone who doesn't hate gays, muslims(and other non-christians) and the welfare state'.
commentersareidiots1 4 months ago
@commentersareidiots1
typical idiots like you... who the wealthy can fucking care less about.......... think about your position in society because these rich folks like this HERMAN CANT can fucking careless about your dumbass.
niamtxiv 4 months ago
@niamtxiv did you not notice the sarcasm? i know he couldn't care less, and that he's a self serving arsehole funded by koch money.
commentersareidiots1 4 months ago
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Herman Cain is a boot-licking, ass kissing, song&dance, smiling monkey, TOM-ASS NIGGA. I would love to spit in his face, and then slap the shit hell out of this low-life piece of shit. CHECK THIS OUT-------> If Republicans were to find out Tom Cain dated a White female, they would dump this bastard faster than they dumped Palin for fucking Glen Rice. ...and Obama is just as bad as Bush. TOM CAIN for TOP SMILING MONKEY!
Born2Flesh 4 months ago
This guy would be a complete asshole to work for! You can tell from all his comments on work ethic that he would run a business like a drill sgt. Now yes that gets the job done but shows insensitivity and greed and he is the type that gets shot with a shotgun after he fires a guy because he was off too many days because his daughter was sick or something. Fake ass black conservative uncle tom!
geelow4321 4 months ago
Typical liberals, don't want to deal with the facts, so they try to misquote Herman Cain, and put up misleading titles on thier videos..lol
tom11zz884 4 months ago
@tom11zz884 you mean like how people on the right constantly refer to liberals as socialists with the obvious insinuation of communism? like how far right fanatics that have taken over the republican party to a large degree ignore the vast body of evidence from the scientific community regarding evolution, climate change etc., cherry picking stuff that supports their worldview and filtering out everything that doesn't?
commentersareidiots1 4 months ago
@commentersareidiots1 Right on! How is it that socialism, an idea rooted in justice and part of the national fabric for a century, has somehow been equated with Marxism? If we abolish socialism in all forms, it will take the votes of millions of beneficiaries! Right too, on the lies from the right. When faced with research that contradicts their claims, they call the researchers atheists. Why believe a party that spreads ignorance?
bruceduece1 3 months ago
@tom11zz884
The title is relevant because Cain said DOMA, which IS discrimination based on sexual preference, was more important than the issue they were discussing.
However, I do agree with him that employer rights are also important. But, I'd want to know more of the specifics before deciding which side I'd support.
oneNonBeliever 4 months ago
@tom11zz884 Oh yes, they are a side show when it comes to not looking at facts. And I have personal experience on what Cain is speaking on. At a job I worked, there were MANY employees who were Islam. The company made provisions for their beliefs, such as unused office space for their prayer rituals, on 2nd shift they were allowed to eat their meal before the sun went down while others had to stick to the schedule. But if a Christian were ASKED anything about their faith, You get written up.
Tsuruta1 3 months ago
@Tsuruta1 Does it really matter to you what time another worker gets his meal? Are you sure your outrage isn't really the suspicion that someone else is getting a better deal? Believe it or not, bigotry can be described as believing irrationally that another group is getting something you can't. You protest too much.
bruceduece1 3 months ago
@bruceduece1 I'd expect you to give me a narrow-minded response like that based on the nonsense you've posted so far. Islam is NOT a RACE, therefore 'bigotry' doesn't apply! The point you clearly don't get is that you can't keep accomdating people in the workplace when a business has given you their rules up front. The person Cain was asked about, knew the rules at her job BEFORE she took it, and her religion doesn't give her privileges above or exonerates her from the rules others agreed to..
Tsuruta1 2 months ago
@bruceduece1 And as for that crack about "my outrage over someone else getting a better deal", that's YOUR agenda.
From that statement shows that you think with a entitlement mindset at any place you work. I take a job, use only what it offers, and use my time to create income on the side. I'm a fitness trainer, and I have another business. I don't BEG for more from them, whereas someone like YOU, are someone who gets on your employer's LAST NERVE for more handouts!
Tsuruta1 2 months ago
@Tsuruta1 First, you need to look up the word bigotry. It definitely can pertain to religion. Also, you talk of entitlement. Have you ever heard of rights? There something every human being is born with and cannot be taken away. You're so worried over who gets to eat first, though. I'm sure that's important. As far as getting everything I can from my employer, you bet! He gets everything he can from me. If I depended on his kindness, I'd go hungry. That's why I have a contract.
bruceduece1 2 months ago
@bruceduece1 There's no bigotry when a business says you're religion does not entitle you to be gone as long as you want, you already have paid vacations and sometimes paid sick leave. And yes you do have rights, AND so do the businesses. There's NO LAW that a business HAS to hire you to begin with. And if you go hungry, that's not your employer's fault. Still thinking with an entitlement mindset I see.
Tsuruta1 2 months ago
Tittle should be: Cain "Obey your corporate overlords or GTFO"
s2kburbs 4 months ago
THE HERMANATOR 2012!!!
alguerrero 5 months ago
KIK....JUST SAW WHO UPLOADED THIS VIDEO...MEDEAMATTERS GEORGE SOROS KKK CLAN......THUMBS DOWN YOU LIBERAL RACIST PIGS!!
alguerrero 5 months ago
Check out the great song I made for Herman Caine!!!
politicalpuppettv 6 months ago
This does NOT show ANY discrimination. Gee wiz, why do the liberals want "special treatment" for who THEY deem a minority. Just that mentality is discriminatory--stupid.
PheonixHeart1974 6 months ago
@WongOmowale No he doesn't. The reason why he wouldn't have a Muslim in his admin is because he wants to be sure that the ppl in his admin would be COMMITTED to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Muslim's normally are NOT for this country. BUT if someone who happens to be a Muslim and is willing to COMPLETELY commit to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights then he would have one in his admin. He is against the Shriah law and this is fine with me. Esp. since that law is a law of hate.
PheonixHeart1974 6 months ago
I'm not voting for Herman Cain because he was head of the KC federal reserve, which means he works for the elite bankers that are ruining the economy. He's one of THEM. But I agree with what he was saying here. If your religion conflicts with your job, get a new job.
Nakor420ish 8 months ago
I hate liberals....enough said
slipknotmaggotful 8 months ago
@slipknotmaggotful
He's not a liberal.
Wordlaw12 7 months ago
@Wordlaw12 Yes I know that, I'm saying that I hate liberals. The people who would opose Cain's ideals.
slipknotmaggotful 7 months ago
@slipknotmaggotful
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Wordlaw12 7 months ago
“And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion, you know, they have an objective to convert all infidels or kill them,” Cain said on in a March 21 article in Christianity Today.
this guy is hilarious. you know what, i want him to be president so comedians can stay in business!!
Alkindi90 8 months ago
the Sharia is like the Jewish "Halakha". designed for those who believe in Islam. it is not a law ( at least not any more). it is fascinating that the idiots who are willing to discriminate against people cannot realize they are being bigots. Just admit you hate Muslims and Mexicans just like you used (perhaps still) hate Blacks, Jews, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans etc... Herman is a joke and has a very short memory !!!
Alkindi90 8 months ago
This guy is so stupid that is not even funny! i don't know what to say except that The Arabs are having revolutions for democracy. America is not doing anything and its population is getting dumber every day. Get the hell out of the middle east, stop signing deals with dictators behind the scene for oil and you wouldn't worry about any evil blood sucking Muslim imposing Sharia "law"! oh btw, no country in the world has the sharia as a judicial system. not even freaking Saudi Arabia!!!
Alkindi90 8 months ago
LOL..."Herman Cain Endorses Discrimination " LMFAO. Who ever titled this video is a racist scumbag.
333konala 8 months ago
Yes, he answered correctly. There is a difference between government discrimination and private discrimination.
zyodei 9 months ago
I think this guy is a bigot but I will concede that he is making a valid point here.
matomes1 9 months ago
media matters has proven that the lamestream media no longer matters.
Fyrpylit 9 months ago
Sounds like common sense to me. Go Herman Cain!
BattleCry4Him 9 months ago
Absolutely no discrimination. Just logic. That's probably why it hurt your brain so bad MediaMatters.
timliddledesign 9 months ago 3
Nice try mediadoesntmatter for your misleading title and for your usual fake reporting.
terryweb 9 months ago 2
I didn't see the discrimination here. Did I miss something? I wouldn't expect to be able to take off work to celebrate religious holidays if the company didn't close for those holidays. And I would fully expect to be fired or disciplined if I didn't come to work on those days. If you want to go on a religious journey, please feel free and I totally support you, but don't expect a company to save your job until you're ready to come back. They have to make sure they keep the company running.
ShortyThePimp210 9 months ago 3
Anything these STUPID LIBERAL JACKASSES AT mediamatters says PLEASE TAKE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
generationll 9 months ago
OMG I think it's been confirmed
Liberalism is am mental disorder
shotsky94 9 months ago 2
Not only is it wrong, its breach of contract on the side of the employee. If you accept a job saying you'll work such and such days/time, then turn around and refuse to work those days/time, I don't care what the reason is, you're breaking the original contract you made with the employer, perhaps you may have misrepresented yourself to him when you applied for and accepted the job in the first place, both of which are grounds to have you summarily dismissed with no warning or last cheque.
qlaw04 9 months ago
Gee, I guess if this is an endorsment of discrimination, I discriminate too. Liberals...... what a bunch of clowns.
RagnarOdinsson 9 months ago
No way, whoever titled this is a genius. I hope thousands of people watch this looking for dirt on Herman Cain and find that he they agree with him. Not everybody is a brainwashed moron. So whenever someone can explain the rules of the work place like he does, those who are not political hacks (a.k.a. kool-aid drinkers) will listen and hear common sense.
fjm98765 9 months ago
Whatever point the uploader was trying to make was completely destroyed by Cain.
deserteagle02356 9 months ago
If media folks are going to attack Herman Cain for false things. Hey people Obama is Discriminating against, Whites, African Americans, Orientals, American Indians and legal Mexicans. read comment below why Obama is Discriminating against all af these americans (Question can any of you do the things that Muslims get away with)
KEW1945 9 months ago
Question can any of you do the things that Muslims get away with. They can build public building in residential zones. They can pat down themselves at airports. They can break set rules in the work place. They can protest violently with out repercussions. They can control where a Christian can hand out pamphlets, They cry racism and actual listed too every time.
KEW1945 9 months ago
How in tar nation is this discrimination? I worked for a school and I waited like every one else did for there vacation. Rules are rules you follow them or don’t take the job. you know the only reason this Muslim woman did this is because she knew she could get away with it because she is Muslim when’s the last time you heard a white, a Mexican, a Christian any one else do the things that Muslims has been doing lately. WHEN preferential treatment for them only NO WAY
KEW1945 9 months ago
He's too angry, he clearly doesn't like Muslims.
Ladiesman1447 9 months ago
@Ladiesman1447 And why do you think that?
Tsuruta1 9 months ago
@Tsuruta1
Did you watch the vid? Listen to his tone. Also another vid where he said that he wouldn't hire a muslim for his cabinet unless he could prove that they didn't want to introduce sharia law... Seriously?
Ladiesman1447 9 months ago
@Ladiesman1447 Yes I heard his tone, that's just the way he speaks. To add, he has a sound point due to the fact that Muslim extremists have proven just how aggressive they can be. Sharia law doesn't belong in U.S. government.
Tsuruta1 9 months ago
@Tsuruta1
It's paranoia, sounds like McCarthyism to me. You seriously think Sharia law will happen in America? Get real.
Ladiesman1447 9 months ago
@Ladiesman1447 First of all, you're a citizen of Austrailia, I'M a citizen of the U.S. I've SEEN the "creeping attempt" as Cain described it, when Muslims have been allowed privledges based on their beliefs, when other employees had to stick to the rules of the workplace, and the fights that would have erupted if it were still in business after 9-11. You allow them any momentum, then you'll have the same problem that other countries are facing like those in Europe. So you get real!
Tsuruta1 9 months ago
@Tsuruta1
Yeah, you've seen it in the same way McCarthy saw communism creeping in. It's paranoia, and unrealistic. Why would a Muslim who wants to introduce sharia law go to work for a guy like Cain in the first place? How does that even make sense? The whole 'screening' process is completely unnecessary, say you don't want Sharia law, fine, but don't say you want to screen Muslims, there's a big difference, and it goes towards his mindset on the issue.
Ladiesman1447 9 months ago
@Ladiesman1447 Muslim extremists are not concerned about who to work for to introduce Sharia law, they want Sharia law everywhere IN everything. There is an upload on YT called "Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West."
Tsuruta1 9 months ago
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Those are extremists, they're not the majority. You're dealing with this "muslim issue" the wrong way, it's divisive and you're alienating them. Like the ground zero mosque issue, why the hell shouldn't they be able to build one there? That's like a muslim saying "I don't want a church built near my house because Christians are pedophiles", labeling and ostracising a whole group based on the actions of a few.
Ladiesman1447 9 months ago
@Ladiesman1447 Kid, you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. I gave you the name of an upload to look at, there's also Brigitte Gabriel, who's written book entitled "Because They Hate", which explains their actions and agenda AND who's lived through their terrorism, Walid Shoebat, a former PLO Palestinian member of the Hamas, and as for your mentioning of them building a mosque near Ground Zero and what that's all about, that's cinches why you don't know their agenda at all..
Tsuruta1 9 months ago
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I stopped reading at 'kid', literally. If you want to have a debate like an adult, then act like one, then I'll converse with you again, otherwise this discussion is over.
Ladiesman1447 9 months ago
@Ladiesman1447 As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing further to discuss. You with that "get real" and then failing to acknowledge the clips I sent you of people who debunk your opinion. *chuckling* AND don't you ever think you know more about Herman Cain than I. That you will never do.
Tsuruta1 9 months ago
@Tsuruta1 Frankly, I'm MUCH more worried about what the US government might do, than what a few hundred or thousand discredited fundamentalists psychos might do.
"Sharia Law" Muslims are such a tiny minority as to be a ridiculous threat.
Every recent FBI case of "Muslim Domestic Terrorism" were Muslims motivated by rage over the carnage the US has brought to Iraq, and by the Israel/Palestinian issue, rather than a desire for Sharia.
zyodei 9 months ago
@zyodei The U.S. has never brought any carnage to any of those countries. WHAT are you talking about???
Tsuruta1 9 months ago
@Tsuruta1 The US has never brought Carnage to Iraq? I hope that the world looks pretty from that cloud you're floating around on...
zyodei 8 months ago
@zyodei I'm sure many of the people of Iraq have been thankful for the so-called "carnage" the U.S. brought, hepling them to get rid of the evil dark cloud (Hussein) and his Ba'ath party they were under.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 wow you do realize the US has killed more iraqis than Husseins enitre rule right? so why would they like us more than him?
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 Only because Hussein sent them into pointless conflicts, being the world social and economic liability that he was, if that were true..
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 And who was it that tried, convicted, AND executed Hussein for his crimes against humanity in his own country?? the U.S. or Iraq? Don't try to confuse U.S. interaction and intervention as an act of malice toward the people of Iraq, that's ridiculous..
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 i know thats know why we went, but how does it look to the iraqi people? do you even know anyone who has been to iraq? they hate us, sure we helped with Hussein, but that doesnt mean they cant hate us or remember who put Hussein in power in the first place(US). oh and i dont see a real "creeping attempt" fro sharia, but if you are worried about religious law, then look to the bible belt the Christian have already passed laws forbidding certain things, like buying alcohol on sunday.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 The latter part of your reply, irrelevant. And you're not looking at the result of what can happen when you allow Muslims little by little, to build momentum in allowing their views, you'll end up with another Lebanon, Cordoba, or the like. Don't accept what I say? Fine. But you'll never convince someone like Brigitte Gabriel, or Walid Shoebat otherwise. You have no understanding on the goal of the Muslim and their coercive attempts.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 its not irrelevant you only choose for it to be because they Christians doing it and not muslims what about abortion clinic bombing?. so you really think every single muslim is evil wants to kill us? and that fundamentalist Christian are any different? sharia law will never take hold here ever, its just another bogeyman like the japs, or the reds, we like to have a target. no Americans will allow it to happen ever. everyone has their nut jobs bud, mcveigh, westboro,louis faracon,
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 I don't base the actions of others to determine the teachings of the Bible or the Koran, I compare the teachings between the two FIRST. Nor do I juxtapose one's personal faith, one's applique of it to determine "how good" of a Christian they are in regards to Christians. What you've done is tossed out the Bible because of one's misuse of it.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 and you do base the actions of others for the koran otherwise you would not feel the way you do about muslims.the teachings are very similar, they both tell you to kill infidels,they both say its ok to have slave, both say not to eat pork, both believe in Jesus among many other similarities. i have long tossed the bible and the koran they both have to much wrong with them, some good guidelines but not to live you life by. there 1800 absurdities in the bible and over 450 contradictions
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 There is no comparison of the Bible to the Koran whatsoever, the Bible does NOT instruct anyone in any similar fashion that the Koran instructs. Any reading you attempted was done without genuine interest and discernment.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 how so, there are plenty of passages that say kill this person for x, like borrowing money being gay and etc. i have been christian my whole life until i got old enough to question some things. now i dont believe in the bible at all to much hate and contradictions in there, i only use it for some moral guidelines. i still believe in god just not a christian or muslim or jewish god.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
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Tsuruta1 8 months ago
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@MrSupra7 Then you are an apostate.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 deuteronomy 13.6-13.9 tells you to kill a non beliver or someone who tries to convert you.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 That is under Mosaic Law in which the people of Israel (Jewish people) were commanded by God not to worship false gods. I knew you would try something like that.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 iti s still in the bible, and pretty much all of Deuteronomy is stuff like that. judges 2.1-2.3 and7.4 revelations 13.14-13.15 2 chronicles 15.13 2 Samuel 5.8. there are many more. im just saying there is a lot of hate and kill this person for this in the bible too. so the ones who dont take the whole bible and koran literally are good, like i have been saying it is just extremest.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 In the Bible, and taken out of context. Which is what you atheists are notorious for doing. I don't hear Cain speaking about killing anyone, he's pointing out in this clip how one just can't take an inordinate amount of time off work apart the rules of the workplace, and you and who uploaded this clip somehow are deeming that as 'discrimmination'.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 sorry bub not an atheist. so who is to say the the extremest Muslims dont take the koran out of context? and we have not been talking about the specific discrimination case, nice try to change the subject but we have been talking about extreme muslims and christians. but to answer you question it is called a sabatacle and teachers used to be able to take them all the time, and they would get a sub to fill their spot for a few weeks. thats how this becomes discrimination,
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 also it would be a direct violation of the equal opportunity employer act. so if cain said the same thing about a christian, how would you feel? how about if all the candidates started saying, well i dont want jews in my cabinet, how bout if Romney said he wants no catholics in my cabinet, or what if bacchman said she only want protestants, or if pwalenty said i only want muslims. how are those any different?
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 That's yet another attribute of the liberal mindest that those like you attempt. Hypothetic, off-topic, copious, irrelevancy. This clip is about Cain's opinion on an employee trying to take an inordinate amount of time off the job, and someone calling it "discrimination." Stay on topic.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 there you go assuming things again, sorry not a lib. i would have worked on his campaign here in GA but he lost me long before this. its still a form of discrimination, as lame as it is, all they have to do is get a sub and her call it a sabbatical, done the whole thing cloud have been avoided. and im on our topic what we have been talking about. so really who is guilty Hypothetic, off-topic, copious, irrelevancy?nice try on your part to dodge my ?s about other candidates doing it.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 He wouldn't want you campaigning for him because you don't stand for anything. And that is THE most bullcrap thing I've heard yet. Getting someone a substitute?!?!? BULLCRAP! No one in any workplace should get privileges above others. Follow the rules of the workplace like everyone else, or get another job, OR go into business for yourself. People like you better learn to live at home, NOT at your job!
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 there you go assuming things again,you dont know what i stand for(im a libertarian). do you even know what a sabbatical is? its a vacation, so that all she had to do, and she has to pay for the sub. can you even read? i agree with the privileges part, thats why i said simple solution. and there you go assuming i dont conform to workplace guidelines. since you like to assume so much let me go once, i bet you are social conservative and fiscal con. i agree with fiscal. but can govt GTFO
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 Now you claim to be a libertarian, but you elect to be clandestine, and not forthcoming, attempting to play games. Very liberal to me. Brought up all kinds of irrelevant, non-sequiturs just to accuse someone of discrimination, Didn't "keep it simple" did you. As for your 'simple solution' how do you know if there rules that permit one to pay for a sub, in order to take a sabbatical?? One just can't demand the workplace to exclusively give one what they want if the rules are in place.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 still assuming. and we have not been talking about this case the whole time, only till the last 4 comment when you brought it up. i thought we were talking about muslims in general the whole time. because i have 1 friend that is a principal and said it would work. but i dont agree with it,like i said i dont agree with the privileges.no shit sherlock but they can ask and see if it is possible, or talk about doing over the summer when she is "off". how many time are you going to dodge ?s
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 Keep that profanity out of it, I didn't use any toward you, got it? That teacher didn't ask to leave over the summer, or schedule it on vacation time. That teacher asked to depart as if one can just take off anytime one says so and take all the time one wants, does NOT work that way. Allow that, then everyone will demand the same privlege. Follow the rules, get another job, or become self-employed. I favor the latter being that I'm working toward that myself, nothing for me to "dodge."
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 lol really you cant handle an expression, sorry, how about you do me a favor and stop name calling i haven't done it to you. i know she didnt and i have said i dont agree with it, and i tried to show a simple solution, but obviously you cant read. all iv done is try to show you how she could have a case, but all you have done is repeated the same thing over and over privileges!!! look here is case that a muslim won under the bush admin.EEOC v. Southern Hills Medical Center more coming
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 now the EEOC has fought for christians to take 8-10 day off per year just to talk to jesus, and they have done it about 10 times. do you know why she had/wanted to go this year? i asked if you were a social conservative and fiscal, i also asked how you would feel if the other candidate said they didnt want Christian, Jews,or catholics.or the ? about muslims taking the koran out of context like those bible verses. so yes i did ask you questions.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
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@MrSupra7 Get off-topic if you like, I will not. Follow the rules, or get another job, or become self-employed. It's that simple.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 so....?
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 skepticsannotedbibledotcom will help they also have the koran. he admits he knows nothing about musllims so how can he make a good decision on the subject. like you accused me of don't base the actions of others to determine the teachings of the Bible or the Koran, I compare the teachings between the two FIRST. Nor do I juxtapose one's personal faith, one's applique of it to determine "how good" except for muslims in this case. unless according to you, one muslims mess up all are bad.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@MrSupra7 No way will I look at any secular, atheistic websites to explain the Bible, that's like mixing oil with water. He knows PLENTY enough about the insidious attempt that certain Muslim people, the more extremist members will try. He, like myself, unlike you, does genuine research, listens to people who left the Islamic faith, and hears the testimonies of those who witnessed Muslim oppression. There are even uploads on YT to show them and more, but obviously you won't look at them.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 yes cause it is a total atheist site, also i said go for examples not an explanation. and he knows nothing he said it himself in an interview. sounds to me like you dont want to see that on YT. nice to finally see you say certain instead of making blanket statements. you obviously don't do any research otherwise you might find that the muslims you are talking about are less than 5% of muslims. and because of your faith you cant look into your own faith and see the problems.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 cont but thats ok because they are Christians... i m not saying i want shraia law but its not that much different than what the Christians have done here is the US. people like cain and santorum who want to legislate morality. but this coming from someone who lived through segregation should know how it feels to be treaded with such disrespect. he is segregating Muslims. and this is like McCarthyism, or it may even turn into what we did to the Japanese.
MrSupra7 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 Umm...are you aware of what life is like in modern day Iraq? For many people, it has been years and years of perpetual and unavoidable fear and terror, being unable to leave the house. Severe birth defect rates have skyrocketed in areas where we used lots of DU (Fallujah for instance).
After all that, the Baathists have been replaced by radical Islamists and Iranian-backed Shias.
Doesn't seem like a very good use of $1Trillion+tens or hundreds of thousands of lives to me.
zyodei 8 months ago
@zyodei The internal affairs of Iraq, we nor anyone else can fully fix. What matters now is that Hussein is no longer here to create the distubance that the U.S. and others were spending $ just to anticipate. The quarrels between Shia and Sunni, that's on them.
Tsuruta1 8 months ago
@Tsuruta1 Muslims represent no credible threat to America. Certainly some of them WANT to turn America into a muslim state. But it's a small, weak minority.
In 1931, Hitler gained power as an anti-communist. The Communists were mostly Jewish. So, he equated Judaism with Communism. Now, there were some Jews who were Communists and wanted to turn Germany into a Communist hellhole like the USSR. But they were a weak minority. The reaction against them, grouping them ALL together, was far worse.
zyodei 9 months ago
Media Matters. There you go trying to mislead people again. When passion overtakes logic, the truth is the first victim. He wasn't discriminating against anyone. He said that if a person wants to take off more time than allowed by the company, then they should not be allowed to work there.
Still, you can't accept the truth of something because of your passion for liberalism.
seacoastbill 9 months ago 13
Whoever titled this video is another liberal piece of garbage.
Yeshulion 9 months ago 15