Also, the PDF file was enhanced . . . because it's a 50 year old document. First, think about what typewriters were like back in 1961. Second, think about how you would complain if you couldn't read the document, or if it was fuzzy or faded.
Henced why it was enhanced, so people can read it. Though I think that the white house should upload a straight-up version, no enhancement, along side the enhanced version to allow for easy reading.
Health care provisions in Kenya =/= . . .make any sense.
Seriously, no sense, whatsoever. No sane, educated, white woman, would travel to Kenya, while close to giving birth. It's illogical, and quite stupid to think it is possible. Where would you want to give birth, right now, Hawaii or Kenya?
This video is an example of what happens when someone who doesn't know what he is talking about tries to "investigate." The layers are perfectly normal in optimized PDF's.
The world has now all seen the LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BARACK OBAMA! And because of it, Trump is now GONE. Along with EVERY BIRTHER's RIDICULOUS AND HUMILIATING EXCUSE. Stabbed this zombie-Racist-Republican-movement right in the heart.
THEY ARE DEAD. GONE. And HUMILIATED.
Begone Racists. INVENT ANOTHER ISSUE... Bah-hahahaha. You were SO BURNED on this one, it'll LIVE ON YOUTUBE FOREVER. What's a BIRTHER? Easy. BIRTHER = RACIST.
Lets see this vid was made in April so why haven't ppl taken this info to the FBI for investigation ?? Go to snopes and factcheck for the real truth.. there are no mainline news organizations taking this info as he states and there is no degree in photshooting...this guys statements make no sense... Save your time go to SNOPES and FACTCHECK ... this guy in the vid has no credibility..
@mikestheman3 - In which administration did you loose your way? I mean when you signed that NDA didn't you have some sort of patriotism for USA? Mr. Obama is still the legitimate CINC and you nor any other asset should question that UNLESS they have bona-fide and vetted intel that says otherwise. These little wannabe computer geeks don't have a frickin' clue what they are talking about. They are just dancing to Likud Party deception like puppets. I can explain in PM if you like.
@ObamaNewCertIsFake - All you've proven is that you're no forensic expert. You have no understanding of old typewriters, image transfer legacy anomalies, Adobe internal workings, etc. PDF 101: Acrobat removes original formatting and layering and acts like JPEG (but only better) and displays properly pseudo-formatted image. Sometimes the text and photos may have some legacy anomalies smoothness (or lack of it). I'm sure you will find more letters than B that display this anomaly. WH's BC is real!
hawaii became a state in July 1960... obama was born "legally" in hawaii August 1961... ummmmmmmm this is very close and perhaps farfetched?
what say they were still disorganized and couldn't put together good birth certificates yet?
Did Obama pick 1961 as the year because he knew it would be close? I think so, Obama was born 1 year after Hawaii became a State. Just knowing that much should give insight to those confused
Hawaii didn't become a state overnight, there were years (5+) in the making, getting everything together so they would be in compliance with US standards and the birth certificates was one of the things that had to comply.
Everybody BORN in Hawaii in a hospital after it was a U.S. state has a long form birth certificate PERIOD.
If born prior to that the best anyone could get was a COLB for ID purposes, to get an ID to vote or SS etc. after becoming a US state.
@originaLkomatoast ok, :) furthermore, allow me to say that Obama used Hawaii intentionally and was born in that other place. drat its too late for any debate//discussion :(. All this guy over here was doign was trying to help by providing a fake one for us to see. Shouldn't we give that guy some credit for trying? Fake certificate of live birth, fake long form, etc? come on, we need to give credit where credit is due. you know he worked hard on this, just to be found on a simple mistake
I JUST SPOTTED SOMETHING VERY OBVIOUS! Notice the left side of cirtificate where curved, the black lines follow the curve inward & down. Now look at the darker green horizontal bars around the black lines, they go straight across, they don't follow the curve like the lines do. Once you spot them and know what to look for, they'll jump out at you.
You don't have to wonder why the PDF has layers and clipping masks in it, just try scanning a document into PDF and see what you get. This is what it always looks like. The old days of a single flat image in a PDF container are long gone, like 10 years ago. Learn about it before you stir up nonsense like this.
@valeriuscrowe Hey 'tard, that has nothing to do with this video. Why don't you make sure you know what you're talking about before opening your mouth.
@valeriuscrowe what about the matching B's and the fact that the hospital he claimed he was born in didn't exist in the year he was born...His father's decent was incorrect as Kenya was not called Kenya prior to '63 and a whole lot of other things that if you look alittle deeper you see and realize that our President for what ever reason is lying to the American People and I know it dosen't feel good to know that...but it's not 'nonsense'...
The consensus among intelligence agency experts is that the Obama long form Certificate of Live Birth was hastily manufactured by an amateur who never thought of using the standard race designation of Negro in Barack Obama, Sr.'s racial designation block on the form they used African either due to ignorance or an attempt to be politically correct in 2011 by refusing to use an accepted term Negro from 1961.
The words used in 1961 would have been, Black or Negro not African.
@mikestheman3 - LOL - "The consensus among intelligence agency experts..." - really?
In 1961 (and now) some native Africans and even some West Indians (Jamaicans) want *no ethnic connection* to African-Americans (aka Negroes, Coloreds, Blacks). Go ask 1 in yr neighborhood or at work. So when Hawaiian bureaucrat asked "Race?" Obama Sr. proudly answered "AFRICAN!" Momma Obama signed the B/C & didn't make him change it to Colored which would have really pissed off Sr. Also African is a RACE too.
@Spookysr That doesn't matter anymore because experts found so many errors on the certificate. I love the smiley face in Alvin. Actually it's better it say's African, born in Kenya, East Africa, it proves obama has DUAL citizenship inherited from his father, how about that. Buy a copy of Corsi's book "Where's The Birth Certificate" mega fantastic book full of straight forward facts, he explains everything.
LOL, you sound like U where there "proudly answered" "Sr. pissed off" now that's funny!
@mikestheman3 - "...experts found so many errors on the certificate...."
Now that's funny "experts" and "errors". Both are comical due to lack of bona-fides on either.
Read Jerome Corsi's book? Why not just read Debbie Schlussel's (WND) work from which he stole his background research from? Both lack bona-fides though...
"...you sound like U where there "proudly answered" "Sr. pissed off"... "
Privilege of creative license. You should write your own book like Agee, Hasler, Scheuer, et al.
@Spookysr Sorry, I didn't realize I was conversing with someone so involved with beliefs in UFOs & Aliens. Love your channel it truly displays the fine charactor you are. Perhaps you wouldn't mind then if I were to ask you how far out there have you really been, like way way out, like "beam me up Scotty" way out there some where lost in space?
Well, I've had enough of this conversation so I will end it & let the you get back to your alien little friends.
@mikestheman3 - If you were that good in open-source mining and backgrounding you would see that all of my stuff you refer to is leaning toward SKEPTICISM. My stuff is just an experiment in human gullibility. I give the illusion of being a true believer so I can glean data on the human mind. Its a personal project of mine. You should have taken a clue to my reference to BF SKINNER and Operand Chambers? Sound familiar spooky? But I digress...
You don't need special software to see the layers, JUST Click on PDF on WH site , it will open in your free adobe reader, zoom in 800%, move around the screen, due to the 800%, size your PC will take a few secs to display the image, You will see what the the video is saying, cause you will see the layers slowly coming together proving that the PDF on the WH site was created with many layers of images each layer containing different info, ITS EASY TO SEE. SO STOP REFUSING TO SEE IT..
@ownerowner100 - Because you have a really crappy PC with hardly any memory for graphics and a cheapo discount graphics card you have the temerity to call the President's LEGIT B/C fake? Get a PC or MAC designed for graphics then speak from understanding. Adobe Acrobat REMOVES original formating and layers and displays as a pseudo image similar to JPEG but only better. Its a patented process. Speak from what you know not what you wish...
dont pull the race card, it is fake!!, be a man and except it bro, he is lying to us again, and the law says that you must be born in US to be prez, if this gets proven 100% he should be kicked out of office. I don't get why did the WH post a pdf of it on their site, that was not flatten, with all the layers, with diff info in each layer, they should of just printed the fake they created and scan it and make a jpeg then posted the jpeg, they made it too easy to see it's a fake. Why so easy?
racist! That has nothing to do with it. He is our prez and he is lying to us about his birth cert, do you understand that you must be born in America to become prez!. it;s the rule. if this ever got proven 100% he would be kicked out of office!! Stop pushing the old race card. People don't like when their prez is lying regardless of what color he is!! The same thing would of happened with bush it didn't want to show his birth cert!
If you believe this, I'm sorry to tell you that you have been played for a rube. This video will show you Obama's birth certificate with layers, as though different pieces of text were added on top of another document to make a forgery.
PDF files don't have layers. Simply call your local junior college and ask for the graphics arts department. Ask about PDF file properties and whether they have layers.
Do come back here and leave a comment that you're really mad about having been lied to!
@islandsunderwater - This long version shows you how I got the pdf from the WhiteHouse website, opened it in photoshop, copied the "obama" and moved that layer onto the other "obama". Next time..... think before you speak :)
@ObamaNewCertIsFake - Yeah so-called ADOBE EXPERT... turn of OPTIMIZE TEXT and notice the layers disappear. But somehow I think you already knew this Obama-Hater.
@Spookysr BTW, I'm not an "Obama-Hater". I'm a tyrant hater... Republican or Democrat. Any of our rulers who ignore the Constitution whenever they feel like it, are criminal scumbags.
@BalmungSama0 I thought this was shit too. I used gimp and imported it at 200dpi straight from the whitehouse website. I thought "wow, Im going to show this guy he's a dumbass". I didnt even wash out the contrast like he did. its even more damning in full color. If you superimpose one "obama" over the other with layers, and set them to subtract, the "B" is just black. pure black. The other letters show the small differences you'd expect. You did NOT check this. that was a lie.
@htomerif I did. In GIMP, too. I didn't use subtract, though. I jst kept one layer at a lower opacity so that I could line up the Bs. Couldn't do it. Slight differences. And I did it at around 360dpi
@BalmungSama0 I just tried it at 360dpi and you're right. This is because at 360dpi the original pixel boundaries don't line up with the new resolution. The best way to do it is to import at the original document resolution (72dpi, or 612x792). Any higher resolution is really unnecessary. I just did select, copy, paste, right click on paste layer and select new layer, then set the layer mode to subtract, then move it in place. Its essentially impossible for those to "B's" to be identical.
@htomerif I don't see why it's unnecessary. The text is saved as a vector. You can zoom in to infinity. There is no unnecessary resolution. Further, I don't see how extra resolution would damage the results. The Bs may be close, but at a higher resolution, we can see that they are different.
@BalmungSama0 Ok, so no. when you scan a document into a PDF file its not stored as vector graphics like characters or lines or vector images made in Acrobat or Illustrator would be. Its stored as a bitmap (or some compressed version thereof). And yes, the resolution does make a difference for where the pixel boundaries line up. I tried it at 400dpi and it still works. Rather than me talk about prime numbers and factorization and a bunch of BS as to why, just try it again, ok?
Hello...the PDF file DOES have layers. Maybe you should call your local printer. As a professional print designer, I use Illustrator and Acrobat for my print files, and guess what? The PDF has layer. You have to open the file in Illustrator to see them.
Oh, open the "official" file in Photoshop® and guess what? No layers.
As for this video...What a PAIN to watch. ZZZZZZZZZ!
@youbeduped - The WH document is from the Hawaiian archive-book in the vault. They took a Xerox color copy of it and gave it to a WH rep. A WH/IT person took a digital camera and it came out as a standard JPEG (no layers). Then they used a JPEG to PDF converter (available free on Internet). Then they posted on WH website. Why PDF? Everybody uses PDF because Adobe Acrobat Reader is free and self-installing. PDF's have patented method for preserving original format independently.
With all of this image transfer from copy machine to digital camera to PDF converter you can see how image anomalies can creep in. Trust me if this was done with Photoshop® you would NOT know it was a fake! The sppoks in Washington (i.e. CIA DS&T) are the best in document forgeries. However, Director Leon Panetta would not condone this. This WH B/C is REAL as hell!!!
I have filed a Petition of Objection with the State of Kansas. They will obtain a copy of Obama's long form. They will not accept any document without an embossed dept of health seal. On Obama's COLB they went to great lengths to show in detail the embossed seal.
Show me by any means created on this PDF long form an embossed seal from the Department of Health and why is it so evidently clear that it is not present on this document. One must be able to feel the seal with your hand
@WichitaTankman - This just shows you did absolutely no back story research and limping on the moronic thoughts of Orly Taitz and Phil Berg. Hawaii abandoned the paper B/C method years ago and opted for a ALL ELECTRONIC internet version of obtaining your Hawaiian B/C. The seal was retired permanently (maybe thrown out too). Mr. Obama's first paper version shared with the world was BEFORE the new program. This paper version was a SPECIAL request and all that was available was the rubber stamp!
So Betac*nt wants to belittle the video creator ("dribbling virgin," how original) because the findings are uncomfortable to his psyche. If this is all in the creator's imagination, why doesn't Betaf*ck go about proving him wrong? The instructions for doing so are right in the video description. Of course he isn't even an American and has little skin in this game as a Euro spectator.
@vonerotateca My beliefs are based on what I see. I'm no computer expert, but I do have a pair of eyeballs which scanned the magnified document image. I can see that letters and numbers are from more than one typewriter. I can see that the date stamp numerals have been tampered with. If you can't see that, then it's your problem, but to only name call us who have looked at it makes you a fool.
@DougDaCosta - For the sake of argument (God forbid I'm not saying your right) but what would be wrong with the Health Dept Registrar typing up this document on an vintage 1960's Olivetti or Royal changing typewriters or ribbons if they go bad mid-typing? Or what if he had to stop and use a different available typewriter in another room or something?
Now I don't see WTF you're talking about "tampering" and not matching. The thing looks exactly like the Nordyke Twins document!
Like what Einstein? Socialized Medicine for all? SOCIALIZED has nothing to do with SOCIALISM! Many Democratic countries like GREAT BRITAIN and CANADA (and scores of others) have Socialized Medicine programs. Even we (USA) have one too. Its called Medicare. You have a lot of nerve calling others idiots when you post Tea Party drivel like this.
@laserbeamninja Yeah, cause everyone knows that pointing out proof of an altered document from a graphics professional perspective makes you a "birther".
The Hawaii Dept. of Health is now saying that they copied his birth record to a copy proof type of paper. Also, an “expert” explained the layers of modifications on the birth certificate as a possible attempt to simply “enhance” the document to make it easier to read. Look, all people want to see is a copy of the original birth certificate….PERIOD! I suggest the Obama team try it again without any modifications and enhancements or this latest “proof of Hawaii birth” won’t be believable.
@DougDaCosta This video is not even about layers though. It is true that probably some software automatically created the layers. The fact that it was modified in Photoshop which the file shows, still isn't proof of anything bad either, sometimes resizing or cropping is done after scanning. The media just loves to talk about stupid stuff that is suspicious at most. They won't address any actual proof (like what is shown in this video) that the document has been tampered with.
@grabyourgat Obfuscation and manufacturing something that isn't original cannot be considered "stupid" to those of us who simply want to see the original in it's original form. Anything less is a fraud.
@DougDaCosta - Yet you did see a "certified" color copy of the original. Hawaii will not let anyone in the vault to look at someone else's B/C. If YOU have one there then you can. But you are not allowed to reproduce it electronically. Hawaii requires you to order yours (and only yours) B/C on the Internet.
@grabyourgat - It was NOT modified with Adobe PhotoShop! It wasn't modified at all and there is no credible evidence that it ever was. What is REALLY happening is that people are using the feature in Adobe product under the "Document" menu called "Optimize Scan". It creates the new layers they ascribe to the so-called Whitehouse B/C conspirator. The birther-layer-theorists are either dumb asses or are lying (or both).
@Spookysr I don't know if it is some sort of mental malfunction or what, but why does every Obama follower come here to argue about the stupid birth certificate but never address what's actually shown in the video? If you read more than one of my comments, you would see I don't care about Photoshop layers or any other crap. I only care about the facts shown in this video. So if you have some brilliant explanation for them, then let's here it, If not, why don't you take it somewhere else.
@grabyourgat - Well yes that's true but that's a little too simplistic an explanation - "coincidence". I think I explained it a little more detailed than that. I think that if ObamaNewCertIsFake wasn't so partisan and possibly lazy he would look for other characters that exhibit the same image transfer anomaly as the letter "B". Also I forgot to mention that Adobe tries to do character smoothing on documents too. Sometimes it it can't do it well due to missed character recognition.
@Spookysr You don't think I already tried checking other letters before coming to this conclusion? I could not find any. I didn't just watch the video, I inspected it myself and confirmed it. There is way too small of a chance for a single letter to end up with IDENTICAL pixels, while every other letter (of the same size and case) on the page doesn't come within probably 50 pixels or so. Something this astronomical happens to Obama's birth certificate of all people... sorry, I don't buy it.
@grabyourgat - I think all of you Obama-Haters are grasping at straws (and creating straw-man arguments). Just like how I exposed how Adobe products are creating the mystery layers I'll bet someone will discover that there is some sort of Adobe text smoothing routine at play here that everyone is missing either accidentally or on purpose. My theory is that its character recognition routine is choking on the malformed letter B. And I'm sure you missed others in the document. B/C is not fake!
@BalmungSama0 - of course its fake. How much you wanna' bet this guy has a yellow flag with a coiled snake on it hanging on his front porch. Motto says: "Don't tread on me."? (i.e. Tea Party nut!)
@DougDaCosta - What you are doing is creating a straw man argument. That's not what was done Einstein!
They used a Xerox color copier and gave the paper copy to a White house legal person who flew out to get it personally. He then gave it to an IT person who digitized it into a JPG and then used a JPG to PDF converter software which does NO editing of the original. However, Adobe Acrobat (PDF) will remove any parent formating or layering yet display the original formating perfectly.
What all of these so-called wannabe Adobe Experts are doing when they say they are finding "layers" is that they are inadvertently turning on OPTIMIZATION which automatically looks for text and images and *creates* new layers that were not there before.
So this is all a red herring. The President's B/C (this one and the one before) are very REAL!
A Republican Gov of Hawaii, a Democrat one, a registrar, and the head of the Hawaiian Health Dept all report that this B/C is bona-fide!
Awesome expose! AMERICA, we just been DUPED! Obama thinks we are all STUPID. Ive been his biggest fan, but not anymore! He just lost my vote and Im afraid all the Facebook, latino, black and left progressive votes. No body likes to be made a sucker! Everybody needs to CALL THEIR SENATOR AND DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION OF THIS FAKE "PHOTO SHOPPED" BIRTH CERTIFICATE!! What other lies is Obama promoting? iF THIS HOLDS UP IN SUPREME COURT ,HE JUST PROVED HE IS NOT OUR FRIEND .BUT A CON MAN.
In my last post I offered a theory as to why they would release something so obviously a fake. After reading some posts I realized how easy it is to let hem control the terms of the debate. Like man made global warming, people are still debating the existence of something while politicians move forward with useless taxing policies. Look, this is the document they said did not exist two years ago when they handed us the last lame ass forgery. Now, the real issue is what should/can we do about it?
Excellent Here's my theory. The LINO Party-liberals in name only- were not sure BHO could win a second term about 100 days in-and he said so. April 4 he announces 2012 bid earlier than he needed to . So, that is one test to see how people would react. His reputation is mud and they knew Jerome Corsi's book is due out soon and the LINOs know Corsi sunk Kerry. So, test 2 is to see how gullible we are and if they need to find a candidate to save their party in 2012. Next test May 17 Corsi book due
@gotch09 so you think the document is real? More fool you, download a copy of the adobe illustrator from the official site (free trial) and follow a few lessons, in no time you will realise what a forgery this is.
I'm amazed they even put this out there, I'm English and have no USA political ties but I do have a degree in Graphic Design.
@terryfink what I'm saying is this, What does the President have to produce to prove to you,personally, that he is a U.S. citizen? There's nothing he CAN produce to prove to someone who is insistent that he wasn't born here. You won't believe, because you don't want to believe.
@gotch09 I'm not a US citizen ;) but I didn't run for president. The whole "no one asked for GWB or Bill clintons BC' is retarded. He was asked prior to being president, so was MCcain. All people who run for Presidency are asked. Obama refused so he became the 1st President to be asked.
@gotch09 good question, maybe a birth certificate with no weirdness hanging over it. how did he get a passport and driving license, social security number without it is the bigger question here (thats if its the same in US as in UK)
@terryfink There'll never be enough "proof" for "people" like you. As Roseanna Roseannadana used to say "It's always something!" It'll always be "yes,well but..........."
@gotch09 what are you talking about?? I was joking by saying your a Racist because I'm English not black.
You earlier made a comment saying "people like you' you have no idea who I am so how are you able to label me? Oh yeah because I don't agree with one thing I must be a troofer/birther/tinfoil hat wearer.
@terryfink Seriously, you don't wear a tinfoil hat? You lose it or something? BTW, I was to understand that England does have a black community, however small it might be.
A "degree!' The best reason NOT to believe your opinion.
I do graphic design, and my expertise comes from EXPERIENCE, not from XX years of classroom nonsense and idiots who call themselves "professors."
I did the college thing for a time. Then I worked in the real world for years only to see the "learned degreed 'experts"" fumble and screw up, then ask the non-degreed for instruction.
If you REALLY knew Illustrator, you would then know this programme is not for image manipulation.
@youbeduped Yeah I did 5 years of University Training actually, Trained in AutoCad 2D and 3D, Adobe products such as CS4 (now cs5) and I've spent the last 5 years hiring out my talents to architects and also run my own business in the 'Real world'. That said I think you already know that I know Illustrator is a manipulation program(from wiki) illustrator allows multiple overlapping vector layers to easily merge or join and a revamped gradient tool allowing for more in-depth manipulation.
This is obviously a very sinister conspiracy that has been in the works since at least the 1960's, possibly before... and the reasons are too obvious to even discuss. This is definitely more important than every other question in the USA today - why aren't the media talking about it?
Would someone explain the COLB pdf at abcnews? That version is clearly in very high resolution with the letters in grayscale throughout. The 'B's in that image absolutely do NOT match. What's going on here?!
Would someone explain the COLB pdf at abcnews? That version is clearly in very high resolution with the letters in grayscale throughout. The 'B's in that image absolutely do NOT match. What's going on here?!
@Tubeistdan Certainly with grayscale the chance of having 2 letters identical, would be exponentially smaller, considering the amount of possible colors per pixel. This just looks like a flattened and much lower resolution copy of it, not higher, where everything is now pixelated. Notice you can't even make out a pattern in the background here, just a light green tint. Image quality has been lost.
Not sure whether you're say the ABC or WH is higher quality.
The WH pdf has blacked-in stuff like the loops in small e's. It would be impossible for the ABC version to open those up into proper e's from the WH version since that version has permanently destroyed the bit data in those regions. The only way that could happen would be if the ABC version was using smart OCR analysis and actually re-creating the e's as they are supposed to look.
@Tubeistdan Yeah, I looked closer at that ABC version once I got home, and I am a little confused as to what is going on here.... It doesn't look like either of these were created from the other. Did someone at ABC get access to this to make their own scan?
I'm not a little confused. I'm a LOT confused. Now we have TWO Obama COLBs. But there's no doubt about the video here. The WH version has those identical 'B's, and if the ABC is more original, there is too much greyscale difference between the two 'B's to resolve down into identical ones we see in the video. Very improbable statistically. If you follow my tortured prose.
@Tubeistdan Yeah, the ABC version is more of what I would expect to see, not that crazy layered mess of a document on the WH website. Of course, with what looks like a regular flat scan at a fairly low resolution (the ABC version), it's really hard to see anything that would be a definite manipulation... maybe experts could, but I am certainly no expert. I think I'm done staring at this stupid thing for now.
When it was scanned, it was put through a program that makes the faded letters more readable. Which they did not try to hide that they did that. Or, Obama is a space alien. Whatever you want to believe.
@grendelee You clearly did not watch the video. I already know about the software you speak of, and that has nothing to do with what is shown here. I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about computers and graphics than most people looking at this video and probably you too.The letters in this document when matched as closely as possible with another of the same letter, look to have probably at LEAST 50 pixels not matching. These B's are pixel to pixel identical. Typical person in denial...
RonaldBlair - talked a guy who's brother moved to Hawaii as adult. House burned down. Took what he had to get new I.D. Wrote in he was born in "Canada" & put down the city name. Dates & other info that was all the truth. WHEN he got papers back. They had put "Honolulu" Hawaii in all the spaces for "birth". Government goobs strike again ~
IF Obama can't do a decent FORGERY how can we trust him with our economy? Oh yeah 14 trillion and rising- As we speak- the Obama Media Whores R preparing a rebuttal- to make FRAUD sound like TRUTH- dirty POLITICs as usual-
Someone needs to send this link to Fox News, Donald Trump or SOMEONE who will put it out to the MSM - America deserves the truth, there's too many You tube vids covering this topic - even I done it on my computer, IT'S A FORGERY, an obvious COOKED document. Someone get the word to the MSM asap please.
Ok, I know a lot of what I think is going on these days has plausible deniability, but wow... I just opened this thing up and compared those letters myself since the low resolution of the video does slightly distort the pixels. Those 2 B's are identical. When an image goes from anti-aliased to bit-mapped, 2 similar images can become very close, but judging by the amount of pixel differences in the other letters, there is no way one letter would be pixel perfect. This definitely has been altered.
Well bless his little heart, he actually believes that the most powerful man on the planet would use a $75 edition of Photoshop to fake an official document and then release it publically...
... I'm just interested to see if his father and mother share a surname.
And the belief that that with all the technology and talent at the disposal of President Obama, his administration's attempt to forge an offical document coulkd be proven to be such by a random, tin foil hat wearing fruit cake on YouTube makes you what exactly?
@BetamaxLives03 Yeah it's clear you know nothing about this, so you might as well leave unless you are going to explain the findings in this video, otherwise you just making yourself look stupid.
And you are looking like something of a towering intelect here!
I'm pretty sure I set my stall out quite conclusively in my previous post. Perhaps you should read it again.
Aside from the vast array of evidence that conclusively proves President Obama's Hawaiian birth, the nuttersphere (of which I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are a proud member) seems to be amusing itself by fantacising that they are part of the vangard of "truth" by making eachither little videos.
@BetamaxLives03 All you need to read is what's here, and maybe actually watch the video... but I know... you want to babble about lizards and tin foil and aliens because you have nothing intelligent to say about what's shown here.
Jesus, I'm really going to have to spell this one out for you aren't I? Again...
A random dribbling virgin using €75 edition of Photoshop to prove that POTUS used technology and methods dumb enough to allow the document to debunked by a random dribbling virgin using a €75 edition of Photoshop... this makes sense to you?
And if it does, I can only assume that you will swallow just about any nonsense you come across on the internet.
Nice job proving this, I'm glad other people still think like I do.....let alone still think at all! The mass majority of liberals believe whatever they are fed. If he had a real birth certificate, it would have appeared while he was still campaigning....about 2 days after he was elected senator.
...it is so fake and yet the major media allows it to go unchallenged. How could America get to this shameful place with this kind of chaos allowed to go on?
If you go to Factcheck, to the 2008 submission of Obamas COLB, you will see a photo of the Hawian Register Seal with signature. Then if you go to Obama's birth certificate you will notice the seal is identical to the one shown for the COLB, what I mean is the signature is the same, and the positioninig of the signature is exactly the same within the seal area. So, its either a exact copy or the Register does NOT actually sign within the seal.
Good work!! This fake is both funny and terrifying. Watch how this plays out in the MSM. If this fake document is not challenged publicly we're in big trouble.
Also, the PDF file was enhanced . . . because it's a 50 year old document. First, think about what typewriters were like back in 1961. Second, think about how you would complain if you couldn't read the document, or if it was fuzzy or faded.
Henced why it was enhanced, so people can read it. Though I think that the white house should upload a straight-up version, no enhancement, along side the enhanced version to allow for easy reading.
No1Complainer 3 weeks ago
Kansas born woman +
in college in Hawaii +
35+ weeks pregnant +
air travel on a plane built in the 50's +
flying halfway around the world +
Kenya, in 1961 +
Health care provisions in Kenya =/= . . .make any sense.
Seriously, no sense, whatsoever. No sane, educated, white woman, would travel to Kenya, while close to giving birth. It's illogical, and quite stupid to think it is possible. Where would you want to give birth, right now, Hawaii or Kenya?
No1Complainer 3 weeks ago
This video is an example of what happens when someone who doesn't know what he is talking about tries to "investigate." The layers are perfectly normal in optimized PDF's.
Mystylplx 4 months ago
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The people who actually believe Obama's birth certificate is fake only prove one thing
You can fool some of the people some of the time, some of the people all the time but some people are just fuckin' dumb .....
longjohn412 5 months ago
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longjohn412 5 months ago
O.K we know Barry Sotoro is not legally the president of the se United States . What do we do about this high level lawlessness ?
fabianstraregy 5 months ago
Osama Obama Biden Bin Laden. If you think this is just a couple of coincidences think again. There's a lot more to this story. Check out my profile.
StopAndReadThis 7 months ago
@StopAndReadThis ...He chose his running mate just because the name slightly resembled Osama's? Really? That's your conspiracy?
...Damn you people are stupid.
BalmungSama0 7 months ago
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BIRTHERS?
BIRTHERS?
BIRTHERS?
BIRTHERS?
The world has now all seen the LONG-FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF BARACK OBAMA! And because of it, Trump is now GONE. Along with EVERY BIRTHER's RIDICULOUS AND HUMILIATING EXCUSE. Stabbed this zombie-Racist-Republican-movement right in the heart.
THEY ARE DEAD. GONE. And HUMILIATED.
Begone Racists. INVENT ANOTHER ISSUE... Bah-hahahaha. You were SO BURNED on this one, it'll LIVE ON YOUTUBE FOREVER. What's a BIRTHER? Easy. BIRTHER = RACIST.
medartist01 8 months ago
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Lets see this vid was made in April so why haven't ppl taken this info to the FBI for investigation ?? Go to snopes and factcheck for the real truth.. there are no mainline news organizations taking this info as he states and there is no degree in photshooting...this guys statements make no sense... Save your time go to SNOPES and FACTCHECK ... this guy in the vid has no credibility..
a211pc 8 months ago
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No one needs to make the birthers look stupid ... they do such a great job of it themselves
clarity023 9 months ago
@mikestheman3 - In which administration did you loose your way? I mean when you signed that NDA didn't you have some sort of patriotism for USA? Mr. Obama is still the legitimate CINC and you nor any other asset should question that UNLESS they have bona-fide and vetted intel that says otherwise. These little wannabe computer geeks don't have a frickin' clue what they are talking about. They are just dancing to Likud Party deception like puppets. I can explain in PM if you like.
Spookysr 9 months ago
@ObamaNewCertIsFake - All you've proven is that you're no forensic expert. You have no understanding of old typewriters, image transfer legacy anomalies, Adobe internal workings, etc. PDF 101: Acrobat removes original formatting and layering and acts like JPEG (but only better) and displays properly pseudo-formatted image. Sometimes the text and photos may have some legacy anomalies smoothness (or lack of it). I'm sure you will find more letters than B that display this anomaly. WH's BC is real!
Spookysr 9 months ago
hawaii became a state in July 1960... obama was born "legally" in hawaii August 1961... ummmmmmmm this is very close and perhaps farfetched?
what say they were still disorganized and couldn't put together good birth certificates yet?
Did Obama pick 1961 as the year because he knew it would be close? I think so, Obama was born 1 year after Hawaii became a State. Just knowing that much should give insight to those confused
yosoydame 9 months ago
@yosoydame
Hawaii didn't become a state overnight, there were years (5+) in the making, getting everything together so they would be in compliance with US standards and the birth certificates was one of the things that had to comply.
Everybody BORN in Hawaii in a hospital after it was a U.S. state has a long form birth certificate PERIOD.
If born prior to that the best anyone could get was a COLB for ID purposes, to get an ID to vote or SS etc. after becoming a US state.
Think Hawaii 1956.
originaLkomatoast 9 months ago
@originaLkomatoast ok, :) furthermore, allow me to say that Obama used Hawaii intentionally and was born in that other place. drat its too late for any debate//discussion :(. All this guy over here was doign was trying to help by providing a fake one for us to see. Shouldn't we give that guy some credit for trying? Fake certificate of live birth, fake long form, etc? come on, we need to give credit where credit is due. you know he worked hard on this, just to be found on a simple mistake
yosoydame 9 months ago
I JUST SPOTTED SOMETHING VERY OBVIOUS! Notice the left side of cirtificate where curved, the black lines follow the curve inward & down. Now look at the darker green horizontal bars around the black lines, they go straight across, they don't follow the curve like the lines do. Once you spot them and know what to look for, they'll jump out at you.
mikestheman3 9 months ago
You don't have to wonder why the PDF has layers and clipping masks in it, just try scanning a document into PDF and see what you get. This is what it always looks like. The old days of a single flat image in a PDF container are long gone, like 10 years ago. Learn about it before you stir up nonsense like this.
valeriuscrowe 9 months ago 8
@valeriuscrowe Hey 'tard, that has nothing to do with this video. Why don't you make sure you know what you're talking about before opening your mouth.
grabyourgat 9 months ago
@valeriuscrowe what about the matching B's and the fact that the hospital he claimed he was born in didn't exist in the year he was born...His father's decent was incorrect as Kenya was not called Kenya prior to '63 and a whole lot of other things that if you look alittle deeper you see and realize that our President for what ever reason is lying to the American People and I know it dosen't feel good to know that...but it's not 'nonsense'...
kimmyk401 9 months ago
@valeriuscrowe - Nah IMO the author is scamming us. He doesn't know how to use Adobe products...
Spookysr 9 months ago
READ THIS:
The consensus among intelligence agency experts is that the Obama long form Certificate of Live Birth was hastily manufactured by an amateur who never thought of using the standard race designation of Negro in Barack Obama, Sr.'s racial designation block on the form they used African either due to ignorance or an attempt to be politically correct in 2011 by refusing to use an accepted term Negro from 1961.
The words used in 1961 would have been, Black or Negro not African.
mikestheman3 9 months ago
@mikestheman3 - LOL - "The consensus among intelligence agency experts..." - really?
In 1961 (and now) some native Africans and even some West Indians (Jamaicans) want *no ethnic connection* to African-Americans (aka Negroes, Coloreds, Blacks). Go ask 1 in yr neighborhood or at work. So when Hawaiian bureaucrat asked "Race?" Obama Sr. proudly answered "AFRICAN!" Momma Obama signed the B/C & didn't make him change it to Colored which would have really pissed off Sr. Also African is a RACE too.
Spookysr 9 months ago
@Spookysr That doesn't matter anymore because experts found so many errors on the certificate. I love the smiley face in Alvin. Actually it's better it say's African, born in Kenya, East Africa, it proves obama has DUAL citizenship inherited from his father, how about that. Buy a copy of Corsi's book "Where's The Birth Certificate" mega fantastic book full of straight forward facts, he explains everything.
LOL, you sound like U where there "proudly answered" "Sr. pissed off" now that's funny!
mikestheman3 9 months ago
@mikestheman3 - "...experts found so many errors on the certificate...."
Now that's funny "experts" and "errors". Both are comical due to lack of bona-fides on either.
Read Jerome Corsi's book? Why not just read Debbie Schlussel's (WND) work from which he stole his background research from? Both lack bona-fides though...
"...you sound like U where there "proudly answered" "Sr. pissed off"... "
Privilege of creative license. You should write your own book like Agee, Hasler, Scheuer, et al.
Spookysr 9 months ago
@Spookysr Sorry, I didn't realize I was conversing with someone so involved with beliefs in UFOs & Aliens. Love your channel it truly displays the fine charactor you are. Perhaps you wouldn't mind then if I were to ask you how far out there have you really been, like way way out, like "beam me up Scotty" way out there some where lost in space?
Well, I've had enough of this conversation so I will end it & let the you get back to your alien little friends.
Tell em' Gomer & Gubber said "hey"
mikestheman3 9 months ago
@mikestheman3 - If you were that good in open-source mining and backgrounding you would see that all of my stuff you refer to is leaning toward SKEPTICISM. My stuff is just an experiment in human gullibility. I give the illusion of being a true believer so I can glean data on the human mind. Its a personal project of mine. You should have taken a clue to my reference to BF SKINNER and Operand Chambers? Sound familiar spooky? But I digress...
Spookysr 9 months ago
i have to say regardless of what hapens next that "B" matching up will always make me think and i dont believe in conspiracys.
ben00au 10 months ago
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You don't need special software to see the layers, JUST Click on PDF on WH site , it will open in your free adobe reader, zoom in 800%, move around the screen, due to the 800%, size your PC will take a few secs to display the image, You will see what the the video is saying, cause you will see the layers slowly coming together proving that the PDF on the WH site was created with many layers of images each layer containing different info, ITS EASY TO SEE. SO STOP REFUSING TO SEE IT..
ownerowner100 10 months ago
@ownerowner100 - Because you have a really crappy PC with hardly any memory for graphics and a cheapo discount graphics card you have the temerity to call the President's LEGIT B/C fake? Get a PC or MAC designed for graphics then speak from understanding. Adobe Acrobat REMOVES original formating and layers and displays as a pseudo image similar to JPEG but only better. Its a patented process. Speak from what you know not what you wish...
Spookysr 9 months ago
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dont pull the race card, it is fake!!, be a man and except it bro, he is lying to us again, and the law says that you must be born in US to be prez, if this gets proven 100% he should be kicked out of office. I don't get why did the WH post a pdf of it on their site, that was not flatten, with all the layers, with diff info in each layer, they should of just printed the fake they created and scan it and make a jpeg then posted the jpeg, they made it too easy to see it's a fake. Why so easy?
ownerowner100 10 months ago
You sir, are a dumbass.
RamenReturns 10 months ago
racist! That has nothing to do with it. He is our prez and he is lying to us about his birth cert, do you understand that you must be born in America to become prez!. it;s the rule. if this ever got proven 100% he would be kicked out of office!! Stop pushing the old race card. People don't like when their prez is lying regardless of what color he is!! The same thing would of happened with bush it didn't want to show his birth cert!
ownerowner100 10 months ago
If you believe this, I'm sorry to tell you that you have been played for a rube. This video will show you Obama's birth certificate with layers, as though different pieces of text were added on top of another document to make a forgery.
PDF files don't have layers. Simply call your local junior college and ask for the graphics arts department. Ask about PDF file properties and whether they have layers.
Do come back here and leave a comment that you're really mad about having been lied to!
islandsunderwater 10 months ago
@islandsunderwater - This long version shows you how I got the pdf from the WhiteHouse website, opened it in photoshop, copied the "obama" and moved that layer onto the other "obama". Next time..... think before you speak :)
ObamaNewCertIsFake 10 months ago 8
@ObamaNewCertIsFake - Yeah so-called ADOBE EXPERT... turn of OPTIMIZE TEXT and notice the layers disappear. But somehow I think you already knew this Obama-Hater.
Spookysr 9 months ago
I meant turn OFF Optimize Scan...
Spookysr 9 months ago
@Spookysr BTW, I'm not an "Obama-Hater". I'm a tyrant hater... Republican or Democrat. Any of our rulers who ignore the Constitution whenever they feel like it, are criminal scumbags.
grabyourgat 9 months ago
@ObamaNewCertIsFake I did that. Oh, and I also checked the Bs. They don't match up.
If you don't like the guy, fine. But stop trying to make up stupid shit like this.
BalmungSama0 7 months ago
@BalmungSama0 I thought this was shit too. I used gimp and imported it at 200dpi straight from the whitehouse website. I thought "wow, Im going to show this guy he's a dumbass". I didnt even wash out the contrast like he did. its even more damning in full color. If you superimpose one "obama" over the other with layers, and set them to subtract, the "B" is just black. pure black. The other letters show the small differences you'd expect. You did NOT check this. that was a lie.
htomerif 7 months ago
@htomerif I did. In GIMP, too. I didn't use subtract, though. I jst kept one layer at a lower opacity so that I could line up the Bs. Couldn't do it. Slight differences. And I did it at around 360dpi
BalmungSama0 7 months ago
@BalmungSama0 I just tried it at 360dpi and you're right. This is because at 360dpi the original pixel boundaries don't line up with the new resolution. The best way to do it is to import at the original document resolution (72dpi, or 612x792). Any higher resolution is really unnecessary. I just did select, copy, paste, right click on paste layer and select new layer, then set the layer mode to subtract, then move it in place. Its essentially impossible for those to "B's" to be identical.
htomerif 7 months ago
@htomerif scratch that. OSX is giving me the wrong resolution. anyway, try it at 200 or 400 dpi
htomerif 7 months ago
@htomerif I don't see why it's unnecessary. The text is saved as a vector. You can zoom in to infinity. There is no unnecessary resolution. Further, I don't see how extra resolution would damage the results. The Bs may be close, but at a higher resolution, we can see that they are different.
BalmungSama0 7 months ago
@BalmungSama0 Ok, so no. when you scan a document into a PDF file its not stored as vector graphics like characters or lines or vector images made in Acrobat or Illustrator would be. Its stored as a bitmap (or some compressed version thereof). And yes, the resolution does make a difference for where the pixel boundaries line up. I tried it at 400dpi and it still works. Rather than me talk about prime numbers and factorization and a bunch of BS as to why, just try it again, ok?
htomerif 7 months ago
@htomerif Just tried it at maximum resolution. Damn-near perfect.
Huh.
BalmungSama0 7 months ago
@islandsunderwater
Hello...the PDF file DOES have layers. Maybe you should call your local printer. As a professional print designer, I use Illustrator and Acrobat for my print files, and guess what? The PDF has layer. You have to open the file in Illustrator to see them.
Oh, open the "official" file in Photoshop® and guess what? No layers.
As for this video...What a PAIN to watch. ZZZZZZZZZ!
youbeduped 10 months ago
@youbeduped - The WH document is from the Hawaiian archive-book in the vault. They took a Xerox color copy of it and gave it to a WH rep. A WH/IT person took a digital camera and it came out as a standard JPEG (no layers). Then they used a JPEG to PDF converter (available free on Internet). Then they posted on WH website. Why PDF? Everybody uses PDF because Adobe Acrobat Reader is free and self-installing. PDF's have patented method for preserving original format independently.
Spookysr 9 months ago
With all of this image transfer from copy machine to digital camera to PDF converter you can see how image anomalies can creep in. Trust me if this was done with Photoshop® you would NOT know it was a fake! The sppoks in Washington (i.e. CIA DS&T) are the best in document forgeries. However, Director Leon Panetta would not condone this. This WH B/C is REAL as hell!!!
Spookysr 9 months ago
@islandsunderwater
Adobe added layer capabilities to Acrobat at version 9. You typed all of that just to look like an idiot.
toddclemmer 7 months ago
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I have filed a Petition of Objection with the State of Kansas. They will obtain a copy of Obama's long form. They will not accept any document without an embossed dept of health seal. On Obama's COLB they went to great lengths to show in detail the embossed seal.
Show me by any means created on this PDF long form an embossed seal from the Department of Health and why is it so evidently clear that it is not present on this document. One must be able to feel the seal with your hand
WichitaTankman 10 months ago
@WichitaTankman - This just shows you did absolutely no back story research and limping on the moronic thoughts of Orly Taitz and Phil Berg. Hawaii abandoned the paper B/C method years ago and opted for a ALL ELECTRONIC internet version of obtaining your Hawaiian B/C. The seal was retired permanently (maybe thrown out too). Mr. Obama's first paper version shared with the world was BEFORE the new program. This paper version was a SPECIAL request and all that was available was the rubber stamp!
Spookysr 9 months ago
So Betac*nt wants to belittle the video creator ("dribbling virgin," how original) because the findings are uncomfortable to his psyche. If this is all in the creator's imagination, why doesn't Betaf*ck go about proving him wrong? The instructions for doing so are right in the video description. Of course he isn't even an American and has little skin in this game as a Euro spectator.
vinnie97 10 months ago
@vinnie97 He couldn't prove anything wrong, which is why he refused to address what's in the video.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
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Did you forget to take your meds today?
grabyourgat 10 months ago
obama is an illegal, homosexual, muslim coon. Go to: Susan Daniels, for the truth.
Then: Peter Boyles. obama must be indicted, convicted, imprisoned, then deported!
Also, go to: obama birth certificate fraud proof
Petekiv 10 months ago
@vonerotateca My beliefs are based on what I see. I'm no computer expert, but I do have a pair of eyeballs which scanned the magnified document image. I can see that letters and numbers are from more than one typewriter. I can see that the date stamp numerals have been tampered with. If you can't see that, then it's your problem, but to only name call us who have looked at it makes you a fool.
DougDaCosta 10 months ago
@DougDaCosta - For the sake of argument (God forbid I'm not saying your right) but what would be wrong with the Health Dept Registrar typing up this document on an vintage 1960's Olivetti or Royal changing typewriters or ribbons if they go bad mid-typing? Or what if he had to stop and use a different available typewriter in another room or something?
Now I don't see WTF you're talking about "tampering" and not matching. The thing looks exactly like the Nordyke Twins document!
Spookysr 9 months ago
there is a dead horse over there , go flog it
crowtricolours 10 months ago
@laserbeamninja ...and you idiots who voted for Obama and his socialistic idealism are fools.
DougDaCosta 10 months ago
@DougDaCosta - "...socialistic idealism..."
Like what Einstein? Socialized Medicine for all? SOCIALIZED has nothing to do with SOCIALISM! Many Democratic countries like GREAT BRITAIN and CANADA (and scores of others) have Socialized Medicine programs. Even we (USA) have one too. Its called Medicare. You have a lot of nerve calling others idiots when you post Tea Party drivel like this.
Spookysr 9 months ago
@laserbeamninja Yeah, cause everyone knows that pointing out proof of an altered document from a graphics professional perspective makes you a "birther".
grabyourgat 10 months ago
The Hawaii Dept. of Health is now saying that they copied his birth record to a copy proof type of paper. Also, an “expert” explained the layers of modifications on the birth certificate as a possible attempt to simply “enhance” the document to make it easier to read. Look, all people want to see is a copy of the original birth certificate….PERIOD! I suggest the Obama team try it again without any modifications and enhancements or this latest “proof of Hawaii birth” won’t be believable.
DougDaCosta 10 months ago
@DougDaCosta This video is not even about layers though. It is true that probably some software automatically created the layers. The fact that it was modified in Photoshop which the file shows, still isn't proof of anything bad either, sometimes resizing or cropping is done after scanning. The media just loves to talk about stupid stuff that is suspicious at most. They won't address any actual proof (like what is shown in this video) that the document has been tampered with.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat Obfuscation and manufacturing something that isn't original cannot be considered "stupid" to those of us who simply want to see the original in it's original form. Anything less is a fraud.
DougDaCosta 10 months ago
@DougDaCosta - Yet you did see a "certified" color copy of the original. Hawaii will not let anyone in the vault to look at someone else's B/C. If YOU have one there then you can. But you are not allowed to reproduce it electronically. Hawaii requires you to order yours (and only yours) B/C on the Internet.
Spookysr 9 months ago
@grabyourgat - It was NOT modified with Adobe PhotoShop! It wasn't modified at all and there is no credible evidence that it ever was. What is REALLY happening is that people are using the feature in Adobe product under the "Document" menu called "Optimize Scan". It creates the new layers they ascribe to the so-called Whitehouse B/C conspirator. The birther-layer-theorists are either dumb asses or are lying (or both).
Here's a video to prove my point:
/watch?v=XcWQw2AAIho
Spookysr 9 months ago
@Spookysr I don't know if it is some sort of mental malfunction or what, but why does every Obama follower come here to argue about the stupid birth certificate but never address what's actually shown in the video? If you read more than one of my comments, you would see I don't care about Photoshop layers or any other crap. I only care about the facts shown in this video. So if you have some brilliant explanation for them, then let's here it, If not, why don't you take it somewhere else.
grabyourgat 9 months ago
@grabyourgat - I did address just what you said to DougDaCosta earlier. Something about image transfer anomalies.
Spookysr 9 months ago
@Spookysr Haha oh ok it was a coincidence. Case closed.
grabyourgat 9 months ago
@grabyourgat - Well yes that's true but that's a little too simplistic an explanation - "coincidence". I think I explained it a little more detailed than that. I think that if ObamaNewCertIsFake wasn't so partisan and possibly lazy he would look for other characters that exhibit the same image transfer anomaly as the letter "B". Also I forgot to mention that Adobe tries to do character smoothing on documents too. Sometimes it it can't do it well due to missed character recognition.
Spookysr 9 months ago
@Spookysr You don't think I already tried checking other letters before coming to this conclusion? I could not find any. I didn't just watch the video, I inspected it myself and confirmed it. There is way too small of a chance for a single letter to end up with IDENTICAL pixels, while every other letter (of the same size and case) on the page doesn't come within probably 50 pixels or so. Something this astronomical happens to Obama's birth certificate of all people... sorry, I don't buy it.
grabyourgat 9 months ago
@grabyourgat - I think all of you Obama-Haters are grasping at straws (and creating straw-man arguments). Just like how I exposed how Adobe products are creating the mystery layers I'll bet someone will discover that there is some sort of Adobe text smoothing routine at play here that everyone is missing either accidentally or on purpose. My theory is that its character recognition routine is choking on the malformed letter B. And I'm sure you missed others in the document. B/C is not fake!
Spookysr 9 months ago
@Spookysr I did what he suggested. The Bs don't match up. My guess? He fakes the vid by pre-copying "OBAMA" for the demonstration.
BalmungSama0 7 months ago
@BalmungSama0 - of course its fake. How much you wanna' bet this guy has a yellow flag with a coiled snake on it hanging on his front porch. Motto says: "Don't tread on me."? (i.e. Tea Party nut!)
Spookysr 7 months ago
@DougDaCosta - What you are doing is creating a straw man argument. That's not what was done Einstein!
They used a Xerox color copier and gave the paper copy to a White house legal person who flew out to get it personally. He then gave it to an IT person who digitized it into a JPG and then used a JPG to PDF converter software which does NO editing of the original. However, Adobe Acrobat (PDF) will remove any parent formating or layering yet display the original formating perfectly.
Spookysr 9 months ago
(page 2)
What all of these so-called wannabe Adobe Experts are doing when they say they are finding "layers" is that they are inadvertently turning on OPTIMIZATION which automatically looks for text and images and *creates* new layers that were not there before.
So this is all a red herring. The President's B/C (this one and the one before) are very REAL!
A Republican Gov of Hawaii, a Democrat one, a registrar, and the head of the Hawaiian Health Dept all report that this B/C is bona-fide!
Spookysr 9 months ago
OK!!!!! I hope now Bin Laden is dead y'all can stfu about silly things like "Is Obama American?"
It took America to have a Black President to kill Osama Bin Laden.
muxi2222 10 months ago
HEY LETS TAKE THEIR ONLY ARGUMENT COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PICTURE
REGARDING: A SCANNER OR OCR SW CREATED LAYERS..
WE CAN NOT SPEAK OF LAYERS EVER AGAIN AND PROVE IT FRAUDULENT IN 1 MINUTE WITHOUT ANY TOOLS WHATSOEVER..
PLEASE SEE: >>>> "Obama Long Form: Looking to keep his Job"
VWState 10 months ago
What tune is that? Excellent downtempo, though perhaps a tad chilled given the implications discussed.
vinnie97 10 months ago
More evidence against the statist commies perpetuating this fraud in the digital realm.
vinnie97 10 months ago
Awesome expose! AMERICA, we just been DUPED! Obama thinks we are all STUPID. Ive been his biggest fan, but not anymore! He just lost my vote and Im afraid all the Facebook, latino, black and left progressive votes. No body likes to be made a sucker! Everybody needs to CALL THEIR SENATOR AND DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION OF THIS FAKE "PHOTO SHOPPED" BIRTH CERTIFICATE!! What other lies is Obama promoting? iF THIS HOLDS UP IN SUPREME COURT ,HE JUST PROVED HE IS NOT OUR FRIEND .BUT A CON MAN.
JukeJointHop 10 months ago
I did a few test myself.
Obama Certificate Of Live Birth - Debate
youtube.com/watch?v=QiErXxBSCoc
Scan My Certificate of Live Birth PDF 4 Ways
youtube.com/watch?v=X6HhKEs5tr8
eb2600 10 months ago
In my last post I offered a theory as to why they would release something so obviously a fake. After reading some posts I realized how easy it is to let hem control the terms of the debate. Like man made global warming, people are still debating the existence of something while politicians move forward with useless taxing policies. Look, this is the document they said did not exist two years ago when they handed us the last lame ass forgery. Now, the real issue is what should/can we do about it?
emorganschuster62 10 months ago
Excellent Here's my theory. The LINO Party-liberals in name only- were not sure BHO could win a second term about 100 days in-and he said so. April 4 he announces 2012 bid earlier than he needed to . So, that is one test to see how people would react. His reputation is mud and they knew Jerome Corsi's book is due out soon and the LINOs know Corsi sunk Kerry. So, test 2 is to see how gullible we are and if they need to find a candidate to save their party in 2012. Next test May 17 Corsi book due
emorganschuster62 10 months ago
MSM Propaganda --> FOX News --> "Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
TheKnowBuddies 10 months ago
You idiots just never give up do you? What do you want, his mother to resurrect herself and personally tell YOU where he was born?
gotch09 10 months ago
@gotch09 Take a hike. That's not what we are discussing.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat thanks einstein.
gotch09 10 months ago
@gotch09 so you think the document is real? More fool you, download a copy of the adobe illustrator from the official site (free trial) and follow a few lessons, in no time you will realise what a forgery this is.
I'm amazed they even put this out there, I'm English and have no USA political ties but I do have a degree in Graphic Design.
terryfink 10 months ago
@terryfink what I'm saying is this, What does the President have to produce to prove to you,personally, that he is a U.S. citizen? There's nothing he CAN produce to prove to someone who is insistent that he wasn't born here. You won't believe, because you don't want to believe.
gotch09 10 months ago
@gotch09 I'm not a US citizen ;) but I didn't run for president. The whole "no one asked for GWB or Bill clintons BC' is retarded. He was asked prior to being president, so was MCcain. All people who run for Presidency are asked. Obama refused so he became the 1st President to be asked.
terryfink 10 months ago
@terryfink That's not exactly my point. My point is: what would it take to prove to you that President Obama is a natural born citizen?
gotch09 10 months ago
@gotch09 good question, maybe a birth certificate with no weirdness hanging over it. how did he get a passport and driving license, social security number without it is the bigger question here (thats if its the same in US as in UK)
terryfink 10 months ago
@terryfink There'll never be enough "proof" for "people" like you. As Roseanna Roseannadana used to say "It's always something!" It'll always be "yes,well but..........."
gotch09 10 months ago
@gotch09 PEOPLE LIKE ME? what English? Racist!!!
terryfink 10 months ago
@terryfink Stop projecting your own hatred of blacks onto me. Who told you I was white?
gotch09 10 months ago
@gotch09 what are you talking about?? I was joking by saying your a Racist because I'm English not black.
You earlier made a comment saying "people like you' you have no idea who I am so how are you able to label me? Oh yeah because I don't agree with one thing I must be a troofer/birther/tinfoil hat wearer.
terryfink 10 months ago
@terryfink Seriously, you don't wear a tinfoil hat? You lose it or something? BTW, I was to understand that England does have a black community, however small it might be.
gotch09 10 months ago
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terryfink 10 months ago
@terryfink
A "degree!' The best reason NOT to believe your opinion.
I do graphic design, and my expertise comes from EXPERIENCE, not from XX years of classroom nonsense and idiots who call themselves "professors."
I did the college thing for a time. Then I worked in the real world for years only to see the "learned degreed 'experts"" fumble and screw up, then ask the non-degreed for instruction.
If you REALLY knew Illustrator, you would then know this programme is not for image manipulation.
youbeduped 10 months ago
@youbeduped Yeah I did 5 years of University Training actually, Trained in AutoCad 2D and 3D, Adobe products such as CS4 (now cs5) and I've spent the last 5 years hiring out my talents to architects and also run my own business in the 'Real world'. That said I think you already know that I know Illustrator is a manipulation program(from wiki) illustrator allows multiple overlapping vector layers to easily merge or join and a revamped gradient tool allowing for more in-depth manipulation.
terryfink 10 months ago
This is obviously a very sinister conspiracy that has been in the works since at least the 1960's, possibly before... and the reasons are too obvious to even discuss. This is definitely more important than every other question in the USA today - why aren't the media talking about it?
That's right - because its the TRUTH
clarkgwillison 10 months ago
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Tubeistdan 10 months ago
@cobrompton Aww.. is somebody upset that their hero has been PROVEN to be a complete fraud...
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat derp derp
cobrompton 10 months ago
1:16 PM Friday PST
Would someone explain the COLB pdf at abcnews? That version is clearly in very high resolution with the letters in grayscale throughout. The 'B's in that image absolutely do NOT match. What's going on here?!
Tubeistdan 10 months ago
Yes, I tried it. The 'B's match.
Tubeistdan 10 months ago
1:16 PM Friday PST
Would someone explain the COLB pdf at abcnews? That version is clearly in very high resolution with the letters in grayscale throughout. The 'B's in that image absolutely do NOT match. What's going on here?!
abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ap_obama_certificate_dm_110427.pdf
Tubeistdan 10 months ago
@Tubeistdan Certainly with grayscale the chance of having 2 letters identical, would be exponentially smaller, considering the amount of possible colors per pixel. This just looks like a flattened and much lower resolution copy of it, not higher, where everything is now pixelated. Notice you can't even make out a pattern in the background here, just a light green tint. Image quality has been lost.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat Sign-in glitch. Now I can reply.
Not sure whether you're say the ABC or WH is higher quality.
The WH pdf has blacked-in stuff like the loops in small e's. It would be impossible for the ABC version to open those up into proper e's from the WH version since that version has permanently destroyed the bit data in those regions. The only way that could happen would be if the ABC version was using smart OCR analysis and actually re-creating the e's as they are supposed to look.
Tubeistdan 10 months ago
@Tubeistdan Yeah, I looked closer at that ABC version once I got home, and I am a little confused as to what is going on here.... It doesn't look like either of these were created from the other. Did someone at ABC get access to this to make their own scan?
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat
I'm not a little confused. I'm a LOT confused. Now we have TWO Obama COLBs. But there's no doubt about the video here. The WH version has those identical 'B's, and if the ABC is more original, there is too much greyscale difference between the two 'B's to resolve down into identical ones we see in the video. Very improbable statistically. If you follow my tortured prose.
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Tubeistdan 10 months ago
@Tubeistdan Yeah, the ABC version is more of what I would expect to see, not that crazy layered mess of a document on the WH website. Of course, with what looks like a regular flat scan at a fairly low resolution (the ABC version), it's really hard to see anything that would be a definite manipulation... maybe experts could, but I am certainly no expert. I think I'm done staring at this stupid thing for now.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
Probably some sort of Courier. Are you going to address what is shown here? Or should we just talk about space aliens?
grabyourgat 10 months ago
When it was scanned, it was put through a program that makes the faded letters more readable. Which they did not try to hide that they did that. Or, Obama is a space alien. Whatever you want to believe.
grendelee 10 months ago
@grendelee You clearly did not watch the video. I already know about the software you speak of, and that has nothing to do with what is shown here. I'm pretty sure I know a lot more about computers and graphics than most people looking at this video and probably you too.The letters in this document when matched as closely as possible with another of the same letter, look to have probably at LEAST 50 pixels not matching. These B's are pixel to pixel identical. Typical person in denial...
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat what font is that?
grendelee 10 months ago
CUT & PASTE- I wanna Hawaiian BC-
RonaldBlair 10 months ago
RonaldBlair - talked a guy who's brother moved to Hawaii as adult. House burned down. Took what he had to get new I.D. Wrote in he was born in "Canada" & put down the city name. Dates & other info that was all the truth. WHEN he got papers back. They had put "Honolulu" Hawaii in all the spaces for "birth". Government goobs strike again ~
memama2 10 months ago
IF Obama can't do a decent FORGERY how can we trust him with our economy? Oh yeah 14 trillion and rising- As we speak- the Obama Media Whores R preparing a rebuttal- to make FRAUD sound like TRUTH- dirty POLITICs as usual-
RonaldBlair 10 months ago
@RonaldBlair they tried to make this look fake to see what people will believe. Its an experiment on the American public.
GODDAMNSASQUATCH 10 months ago
@RonaldBlair
The forger should be fired. But it isn´t easy to get a decent forger nowadays.
svrljig 10 months ago
svrjig - don't put so much pressure on Al Gore he's been so busy workin on his invention (the internet) & has done his best here = helpin baama
memama2 10 months ago
Someone needs to send this link to Fox News, Donald Trump or SOMEONE who will put it out to the MSM - America deserves the truth, there's too many You tube vids covering this topic - even I done it on my computer, IT'S A FORGERY, an obvious COOKED document. Someone get the word to the MSM asap please.
TBaker1964 10 months ago
Ok, I know a lot of what I think is going on these days has plausible deniability, but wow... I just opened this thing up and compared those letters myself since the low resolution of the video does slightly distort the pixels. Those 2 B's are identical. When an image goes from anti-aliased to bit-mapped, 2 similar images can become very close, but judging by the amount of pixel differences in the other letters, there is no way one letter would be pixel perfect. This definitely has been altered.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
Yep, its a Fake
HolyBeThyName 10 months ago
Spread the word..... forward this video to all that you can. Eventually the media might pick up on this. Thanks.
ObamaNewCertIsFake 10 months ago 2
@ObamaNewCertIsFake
check the curvature of the printed lines against the background pattern, it's a bad joke!!!.
great work!!!
firesnake2007 10 months ago
@ObamaNewCertIsFake
How's about you post your birth certificate on line?
BetamaxLives03 10 months ago
@BetamaxLives03 I can't prove this, but I suspect ObamaNewCertIsFake might not be running for president.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat
Well bless his little heart, he actually believes that the most powerful man on the planet would use a $75 edition of Photoshop to fake an official document and then release it publically...
... I'm just interested to see if his father and mother share a surname.
BetamaxLives03 10 months ago
@BetamaxLives03 You clearly know nothing about computers or web graphics.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat
And the belief that that with all the technology and talent at the disposal of President Obama, his administration's attempt to forge an offical document coulkd be proven to be such by a random, tin foil hat wearing fruit cake on YouTube makes you what exactly?
Are you Bill Gates?
BetamaxLives03 10 months ago
@BetamaxLives03 Yeah it's clear you know nothing about this, so you might as well leave unless you are going to explain the findings in this video, otherwise you just making yourself look stupid.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
And you are looking like something of a towering intelect here!
I'm pretty sure I set my stall out quite conclusively in my previous post. Perhaps you should read it again.
Aside from the vast array of evidence that conclusively proves President Obama's Hawaiian birth, the nuttersphere (of which I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that you are a proud member) seems to be amusing itself by fantacising that they are part of the vangard of "truth" by making eachither little videos.
Fun!
BetamaxLives03 10 months ago
@BetamaxLives03 Maybe you should do some reading.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
@grabyourgat
Excellent response!
Are there many truther/birther/"I-was-probed-by-aliens" website that you could recommend?
I hear that the plaent is ruled by a race of alien lizard people... is this also a perspective to which you subscribe?
Picking up many encoded transmissions on your fillings lately?
BetamaxLives03 10 months ago
@BetamaxLives03 All you need to read is what's here, and maybe actually watch the video... but I know... you want to babble about lizards and tin foil and aliens because you have nothing intelligent to say about what's shown here.
grabyourgat 10 months ago
Jesus, I'm really going to have to spell this one out for you aren't I? Again...
A random dribbling virgin using €75 edition of Photoshop to prove that POTUS used technology and methods dumb enough to allow the document to debunked by a random dribbling virgin using a €75 edition of Photoshop... this makes sense to you?
And if it does, I can only assume that you will swallow just about any nonsense you come across on the internet.
Buy any bridges on Ebay recently?
BetamaxLives03 10 months ago
Nice job proving this, I'm glad other people still think like I do.....let alone still think at all! The mass majority of liberals believe whatever they are fed. If he had a real birth certificate, it would have appeared while he was still campaigning....about 2 days after he was elected senator.
mattstevens587 10 months ago
Totally fake. Holy shit we need a revolution this is insane. They are getting away with so much the constitution is dead.
NosoCOMINSOON 10 months ago
...it is so fake and yet the major media allows it to go unchallenged. How could America get to this shameful place with this kind of chaos allowed to go on?
memama2 10 months ago
If you go to Factcheck, to the 2008 submission of Obamas COLB, you will see a photo of the Hawian Register Seal with signature. Then if you go to Obama's birth certificate you will notice the seal is identical to the one shown for the COLB, what I mean is the signature is the same, and the positioninig of the signature is exactly the same within the seal area. So, its either a exact copy or the Register does NOT actually sign within the seal.
Drav1212 10 months ago 2
Good work!! This fake is both funny and terrifying. Watch how this plays out in the MSM. If this fake document is not challenged publicly we're in big trouble.
anywayokay 10 months ago 8
If this was typed on colored paper with marks on it, why are the pixels around the typed letters white?
barbsinclair 10 months ago 7