Is the "Church of Christ" the Real Church? #1 (introduction)

[uwique]

ask a church of christ member if he can lead somone to christ on their deathbed,,becuase of their NECESSITYfor water baptism for salvation,they cant bring some one on their death bed to christ,,they are useless!!

[parisjoel25]

im the member of coC THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH

[suchafngentleman]

In all actuality Alexander Campbell was originally affiliated with the baptist. He wrote a journal between the 1820s and 1830s called The Christian Baptist. Bill Jackson never said he was a baptist.

[CAnswersTV]

@suchafngentleman Good point. See our 22 hour debate entitled, "Church of Christ Week Long Debate" (between Bob Ross & Bill Jackson) here on YOUTUBE or just type "LARRY WESSELS CAMPBELLISM" in the YOUTUBE search box for an array of all our Campbellism videos involving the so-called "Church of Christ." The point about the Campbells being associated with the Baptists has been brought up by Bob Ross repeatedly. The real Baptists eventually broke with the heretical Campbells & their false beliefs.

[xdeltomx]

Calling people by names, arrogant attitudes, and stuck up mentally shows Christ?? If that is the case I cannot be a baptist and it is so sad to hear and watch this. For people like this my God and Christ are being insulted, how dare you!

[CAnswersTV]

@xdeltomx Just who do you think you are to come in here & start arrogantly name calling with your "stuck up" attitude! What a hypocrite! You ought to be ashamed of yourself! Looking at your YOUTUBE channel all I saw was music videos & cartoons; that qualifies you to talk about Biblical theology? What God & Christ do you have? The one you have must be FAKE because the God of the Bible (who is also Jesus) INSULTS people all the time. Try reading Matthew chapter 23. What about the money changers?

[tray28dog]

wow flolks lets go to the word of God by witch we will be juged John12:48.. that baptist sayed that you repent then belive then you get baptized, wow .... so why repent towered something then belive? act 2:38 the jews already belived then they repented!!! then guess what ther where baptized... let me ask can u be saved without belive according to john 8:24?

can u be saved without repenting luke 13:3??

can u be saved with out confession? matt 10-32?

can u be saved without baptsim mrk 16:16 NO

[CAnswersTV]

@tray28dog You Campbellites think you can save yourselves by your own WORKS of "baptism," "repenting," "confessing," "believing," etc. but you never get the point & thus in the end you will die in your sins (Galatians 1:6-9, 2:16, 4:6, Isaiah 64:6, etc). You must be FIRST supernaturally saved by a sovereign work of the Holy Spirit not your "works" (Eph 2:8-10, 1 Cor 2:10-16, 3:16, 6:19-20, Romans 5:4-5, 8:8-17, 9:10-23, Titus 3:5-7, John 1:12-13, 2 Tim 2:24-26). Campbellism is spiritual death.

[brotherfrank62]

2 Peter Chapter 1:vers.4-10 These are the things we need to add to or faith. From Genesis to Revelation God has all ways gave the world two options live Godly are die spiritually.

[newj34]

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Why is baptism left out of so many verses if it's crucial for salvation? Why was the thief on the cross not disqualified for an inheritance that requires water baptism? What about deatbed conversions?

[MeGavinAndNoah]

How do you explain Acts 2:38? Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. And by the way, I am a Church of Christ member. I only believe what the Bible tells me. Does this mean that the holy word is also lying in John 3:5? Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.

[CAnswersTV]

@MeGavinAndNoah We've been debating the Campbellites on these verses for decades (Read Bob L. Ross' book called "Acts 2:38 & Baptismal Remission" - you can buy it at PILGRIMPUBLICATIONS COM). Next, type "LARRY WESSELS ACTS 2:38" in the YOUTUBE search box & an array of videos will come up (many debates with Campbellites on this verse although Oneness Pentecostals & Roman Catholics use this verse for their purposes also). John 3:5 is not talking about Campbellite water baptism but can mean birth.

[Kyouryuu5000]

@rdsweet

And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (Acts 16:30-31).

[rdsweet]

Funny he said Jesus never baptized anybody. I guess Jesus never got baptized.

[CAnswersTV]

@rdsweet Funny you would say that. Once you stop laughing please read John 4:2, "(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)". Is that "funny" to you? Let's see, "Jesus himself baptized not"; according to your comment then you're making the conclusion that "Jesus never got baptized" is that right? Wow, you're quite a Bible scholar! You see that Jesus never baptized anyone because His disciples were doing it & then you think He never got baptized?! Read Matthew 3:16-17 & learn logic.

[rdsweet]

@CAnswersTV Logic I should learn. Before that I encourage you to rewatch the video. Your man was making a point that baptism is wrong or unimportant, because Jesus never did it. My point - not sure if you remember the cousin John the baptizer- Jesus himself was baptized. So, the fact that he did not baptize does not make baptism less than since he himself was baptized. You'll catch that when you turn off your arrogant button.

[CAnswersTV]

@rdsweet It's interesting that you would make this comment after you stated on our other video "Is the 'Church of Christ' the Real Church? #2" that you didn't even "know" if the Bible is true! If you don't "know" if the Bible is true or not or as you said Mother Teresa or whatever doesn't matter since no really knows, then why are you here arguing about this? According to you, what does it matter? If the Bible is not true then what does baptism matter? Baptism is important but not for salvation.

[JubalCalif]

Very interesting clip. Thank you for posting. Though I have never heard any member of the Church of Christ (which is the church most of my Christian relatives belong to) claim that the Church of Christ was the only REAL chuch. As many of them like to say, "We're not the only Christians, we're Christians only". Most Church of Christ members know there are other groups that follow the New Testament teachings as best they can, though not all such congregations call themselves "Church of Christ"

[Iseeit4u]

This is stupid. The guy argues that repent and believe go hand in hand, can't be split. Can't CofC say the same thing? Jesus told Nicodemus be born again of the water and the Spirit. Then after it's been mentioned many times isn't it also inseperable. I believe hearing can't be separated from believing and it cant be sep from confessing, repenting, baptizing and then living it fully. When you say "you much believe" that should imply all the other parts along with it without it being said

[jinete2420]

I think thats the another exteme side to say that they are not christians, they love the scripture, and hardly believe what they see there, nothing else, they are not wolves etc., they have their points, right or wrong, but thats all

[CAnswersTV]

@jinete2420 Say what you like but I'll go with Jesus rather than your opinion. For instance, Jesus made a very clear statement in Matthew 7 starting in verse 13-14 "Enter ye in at the strait gate .. FEW there be that find it." He then narrows the field of so-called "Christians" by showing that many of these "Christians" aren't going to make it in the end in verses 21-29, "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven ..." See also Matthew 25:1-12, 13:3-23.

[jinete2420]

@CAnswersTV I agree with the Word, and I know how subjective application's have this verses, and I can't change what you think, but I know a lot of these people in Mexico, and they are christians, because they believed in Jesus, and He has done his work on them, with some doctrinal errors in my view, but like the most of all the other christian churches have too. We are not christians cause we are perfect in this life -knowledge too-, but cause Jesus Sacrifice.

[CAnswersTV]

@jinete2420 You say you believe the "Word" & I assume you're talking about the Bible & not the "Book of Mormon" or a Jehovah's Witness "New World Translation" of the Bible. The Mormons & JWs believe in "Jesus" (2 Cor 11:4) & I suppose you think they're okay also, right? You say "doctrinal error" doesn't matter as long as you "believe" in some sort of "Jesus" right? Didn't the Judaizers who said you must be circumcised to be saved believe in Jesus? Paul says in Galatians 1:6-9 they're damned.

[jinete2420]

@CAnswersTV -3 (for last)- Not the same to mix christianity and judaism or new age etc, than misunderstand a bible verse

[CAnswersTV]

@jinete2420 You're avoiding the point. The point is the Judaizers in Galatians claimed to be Christians. Some of these Galatians were Jewish converts to Christianity but they said that for someone to be saved & be a real Christian they must be circumcised. Paul damned these "Christians" for preaching a false gospel (Gal 1:6-9). Here we are in the 21st century but now the Campbellites claim to be "Christians" saying you must be "water baptized" (instead of circumcision) in order to be saved.

[stanTman666]

@jinete2420 I agree its just sad to see people that think they are Christians when they are clearly not and as much as Campbellites know the scripture they do not know the truth otherwise there would be no baptismal regeneration or denial of the Holy Spirit. As an ex C of C it saddens me to see so many still blind and in false hope

[Kyouryuu5000]

These churches should not even be called "Christian" churches if they add H2O baptism to the simplicity of salvation. The "Christian Church", The "Church of Christ", and the "Disciples of Christ" are known as the "Restoration Movement." Instead, they should be called The Campbellite Church, The Church of Campbell, and the Disciples of Campbell.

Adding any form of human effort to salvation is extremely dangerous. Please also read Ephesians 2:8-9.

[CAnswersTV]

@Kyouryuu5000 In one of our many Campbellite expose broadcasts (I forgot which one exactly) I remember talking about "the church that Campbell built" & then how many of these modern American cults came out of the Campbellism movement such as Mormonism, Seventh-Day Adventism, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc (our "Rise of the Cults" video covers this development). During this particular Campbellism show (the one I forgot the name to) I pulled out a bunch of Campbell's soup cans & named them accordingly.

[Kyouryuu5000]

@CAnswersTV

Thanks for the comment. It almost seems as if Campbellism, Mormonism, Seventh-Day Adventism, Jehovah's Witness theology, and many other supposedly "Christian" churches teaching baptismal regeneration are all like peas in a pod.

[ydnar0591]

In what year of the 1800's did the CofC add H2o baptism to "Faith and Repenteance"as a 3rd requiremnet for Salvation? We know that the "CofC did NOT believe this "H2o baptism for salvation" doctrine when they first became a religious sect in the 1800's, how many years after it's inception did the CofC begin to believe this doctrine? What happend to their poor ancestors who did not believe this doctrine and passed on before the doctrine became an official part of the CofCer's salvation plan?

[CAnswersTV]

@ydnar0591 For a complete history read Bob L. Ross' 3 books, "Campbellism, Its History & Heresies," "The Restoration Movement," & "Acts 2:38 & Baptismal Remission" (go to PILGRIMPUBLICATIONS COM for copies). We also have Campbellite history posted on our website BIBLEQUERY COM - click the "Experience" box on the homepage & scroll down to "Church of Christ" newsletter. Alexander Campbell first mentioned it in a 1823 debate & in 1827 Walter Scott claims to have "restored the gospel" with "H2O".

[ydnar0591]

@CAnswersTV

Thanx much for the details , I of course will want to look at this information. It will help me when I witness to a JW, Mormon, CofC or UPCI, AofG,or other of the "Hloiness Church Cults"from 1800 origin.{Those who WANT out of bondage to "WORKS" of course} those who don't , we will pray for.Much appreciated.

I never saw so many varied beliefs in the Bible reading community as there are on this internet. The true Gospel all but gets lost to people, in the shuffle.

[parisjoel25]

read..matthew 16:18..read@accept

[CAnswersTV]

@parisjoel25 Matt. 16:18 says, " And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, & upon this rock I will build my church; & the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." Why are you bringing up this verse on a video about the Campbellites? This verse is misapplied by Romanists to say Peter was the first pope which is a complete falsehood. For a full analysis of this verse see our Youtube video, "Roman Catholicism Series #8: The Pope - Holy Father or Anti-Christ of 2nd Thessalonians 2:3-17."

[hrlrox]

Matthew 3:1-2 says: In those days John the Baptist came, preaching in the Desert of Judea and saying "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near."

In Matthew 3:11 says: I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful that I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."

[CAnswersTV]

@hrlrox One reason Campbellite churches (Church of Christ, Disciples of Christ & Christian Church) are called Campbellite churches is for the fact that they were founded by Alexander Campbell & his fellow "Restorers" in the early 1800s in the United States (see our video on Youtube entitled,"The Counterfeit Water Gospel Church ("Church of Christ") that Alexander Campbell Built."

[hrlrox]

@CAnswersTV Anyone can have an idea. What a lot of people can't fathom is that something is always to be created. Think about it. For example, the Church of Christ's beliefs are based on biblical facts and happenings, something that no other church's facts are based on. Maybe Mr. Campbell did in fact introduce the idea of that church, but it is built on biblical fact and on Christ. Anyone could have introduced it; that doesn't make it Mr. C's church.

[CAnswersTV]

@hrlrox This argument is nonsense since it is predicated on a simple logical error, namely, BEGGING THE QUESTION. You BEG THE QUESTION by saying "the Church of Christ's beliefs are based on biblical facts & happenings, something that no other church's facts are based on." Nothing could be further from the truth. Simply type "LARRY WESSELS CHURCH OF CHRIST" in the Youtube search box & start watching the 40 or more hours we have posted documenting that your statement on Campbellism is false.

[hrlrox]

@CAnswersTV You say I'm "begging the question." That's an interesting theory. But really, think about it. What do Catholics believe? That you have to, without pussy-footing around the answer, pay a man, the pope, as I do believe, to pray for your sins to be taken away. You think that's correct, I suppose? You think one man has the power for everyone? As I'd like to say, it's every man for themselves. That also accounts in a spiritual sense too.

[CAnswersTV]

@hrlrox You apparently can't think rationally! Not only do you fail to respond to the "begging the question" issue in your response but you commit more logical fallacies called "YOU DO IT TOO" & "FALSE ANALOGY." You make a FALSE ASSUMPTION that not only do we believe in a pope (see our over 40 hours of shows on Romanism, type "LARRY WESSELS ROMAN CATHOLICISM" in the YOUTUBE search box) but you ASSUME that the existence of the pope JUSTIFIES your phony Campbellite water baptism salvation gospel.

[ChulaKirby]

@hrlrox ROFL...the Catholic Church doesn't teach that. I've looked through the Catechism of the Catholic Church which is the official presentation of the Catholic Church and their beliefs and can't find anything like you said. Can you show me exactly where they teach this or are you lieing about them?

[parisjoel25]

@CAnswersTV

read..matthew 16:18...read@accept

[1628Scarlet]

(KJV) James 2:20

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

[CAnswersTV]

@1628Scarlet So are you saying by quoting this verse that your "works" save you & allow you to go to heaven? What kind of works are you talking about? Some Campbellites say you can't have a piano in the worship service, is that the kind of "works" you're talking about? Some Campbellites say you have to be water baptized in order to be saved, is that what you mean by "works"? Some Campbellites say you can't have Sunday schools, is that the "works" you mean? How many "works" are finally necessary?

[TheDudejit]

@1628Scarlet Most of the Christians don't talk about the meaning of the word "Church" means the called out ones of Christ. Therefore, as long as you are called out one(redeemed one, saved one and bought one) by Christ then you are of Christ. You are called by Christ is not to bear other names except the name of Christ. You are confused with the name of the Church and faith. We have different faiths and divisions among the Christians is started from different names of the Church!

[CAnswersTV]

@TheDudejit The only one confused is you. Where in the Bible are Christians COMMANDED to wear a particular NAME for their church gathering place? Don't you know that one of the founders of the "Church of Christ" & Campbellism in general named Alexander Campbell translated Romans 16:16 as "The CONGREGATIONS of Christ salute you"? Campbell translated that verse this way in his "Living Oracles," page 305. Greek scholars agree & say "ekklesia" is best translated "assembly" or "congregation," get it?

[abulakle]

the church of christ is a type of cult.i was in the crossroads church of christ movement in the early 80's.they believe that they are the only church.and if you don't believe that water baptism is necesary. then you're not a christian.

[ELVISALIVE123]

Alexander Campbell is not the forerunner for the church of Christ! Now there may be some churches of Christ that call him a founder but none I have been assoated with and none that I know of. We as members of the church of Christ only obey the strict commands given in the word of God. All churches of christ are independent of each other as to keep any heresy from spreading through the churches that use man leaderhip. The word is our director and our Master is the lord Jesus Christ.

[CAnswersTV]

@ELVISALIVE123 You simply haven't studied the origins of your own "church of Christ" religious group FOUNDED by Campbellite RESTORERS Thomas & Alexander Campbell, Walter Scott, & Barton Stone (for more on this see our Youtube video, "RISE OF THE CULTS! ARE YOU IN ONE?" or our many shows on the so-called "church of Christ" on the internet (search LARRY WESSELS on the homepages of VIMEO VIDEO or GOOGLE VIDEO). Our website BIBLEQUERY ORG covers your history (click "experience" box - newsletters).

[ELVISALIVE123]

1 peter 3 20-21 is salvation through baptism , baptism now saves us, also acts chapter 22; 16 Paul why are you waiting, arise be baptized and wash away your sins. If you dont see it in these verses your not looking, also Mark 16; 15-16, Acts 2; 38. No one in the book of Acts was saves without Baptism!

[CAnswersTV]

@ELVISALIVE123 Because you have a carnal mind (Romans 8:7) & you are without the Holy Spirit of God indwelling your body (most Campbellites do not believe the Holy Spirit is in them but rather the Spirit is in the Bible, 1 Corinthians 2:14-16, 6:19-20, Romans 8:8-17 refutes this) you don't have the ABILITY to interpret Scripture properly (you need the Spirit for this, get it?). This is why you make a SAVIOUR out of water baptism. See our website BIBLEQUERY ORG, click "experience" box & scroll.

[3emperorsproduction]

hey if you read this verse it has churches of Christ in the bible!! Romans 16:16

[CAnswersTV]

@3emperorsproduction Romans 16:16 is often quoted by Campbellites to support their "Bible Name" for a church building legalism. The problem for them is that this verse does NOT COMMAND anyone to wear ANY name. There are other passages which refer to the church under different TERMS, but they do not contain a COMMANDMENT for using such terms as a "name." Alexander Campbell, one of the founders of modern day "Churches of Christ", translated Rom 16:16 as "The CONGREGATIONS of Christ salute you."

[ELVISALIVE123]

Go to acts 8; God sent a preacher to the one seeking the truth. In the teaching the eunich asked to be baptized because the teaching obviously stated he needed it for salvation. Yes a teacher is needed!!

[CAnswersTV]

@ELVISALIVE123 Please read Acts 8:26ff & SPECIFICALLY show me WHERE in this text the Eunuch "obviously stated he needed" WATER BAPTISM "for salvation"? Does the Eunuch NEED the Water baptism IN ORDER TO GET SAVED according to this text or is he ALREADY SAVED by an act of the Holy Spirit BEFORE he is water baptized BECAUSE he ALREADY BELIEVES in the Lord Jesus Christ? Is the Eunuch's faith & belief in Jesus ENOUGH for salvation or did he clearly believe THE WATER saved him instead? What did it?

[3emperorsproduction]

so many people complain and complain, just read the bible yourself instead of depending of other people just telling you what the bible and your know, its that easy.

[CAnswersTV]

@3emperorsproduction It's not that "easy" friend because: 1) 1 Corinthians 2:14 says, "But the natural man RECEIVETH NOT the things of the Spirit of God: for they are FOOLISHNESS unto him: neither can he KNOW them, because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED.", 2) 2 Peter 3:16 says, "they that are UNLEARNED & UNSTABLE wrest, as they do also the other SCRIPTURES, unto their own DESTRUCTION." A person who hasn't been SUPERNATURALLY INDWELT by the Holy Spirit (1 Cor 6:19-20, Rom 8:8-17) doesn't get it.

[horseman528]

A man who refuses to study the scripture and only believes what he wants usually ignores some verses while emphasizing others that support his belief. God's plan of salvation is never found in one single verse. One has to study the whole new testament not just the parts they're comfortable with. The Church of Christ does study the entire new testament not just Eph. 2:8 or John 3:16. Both are good vs. but need to be understood in context.

[CAnswersTV]

@horseman528 The comment you make here describes EXACTLY true Campbellites & their false gospel (or as they call it "THE RESTORED ANCIENT GOSPEL"). Instead of studying scripture in context through the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit, they fall into the trap described by Peter in 2 Peter 3:16. You've made a "saviour" out of WATER BAPTISM & other Campbellite WORKS RIGHTEOUSNESS rituals instituted by the so-called "RESTORERS": Thomas & Alexander Campbell, Barton Stone & Walter Scott. Repent!

[Angryrnmedic]

In calling people in the "church of Christ" "Campbelites" the speaker is either incredibly ignorant or just low down MEAN spirited. If the speaker/host of the program differs with others religiously he need not be sarcastic and mean spirited. That accomplishes nothing for the promotion of unity or peace. RN

[CAnswersTV]

@Angryrnmedic It's obvious from your statement that you know nothing about Biblical concepts in relation to alien gospels & false prophets (Galatians 1:6-9, Matthew 7:15). This video & Youtube channel (CANSWERSTV) has to do with Biblical perspectives on key issues NOT catering to someone's "soft soap" emotional belief system about a so-called "promotion of unity & peace." Did Jesus promote "unity & peace" with the religious community in his day (read Matthew chapter 23)? He called people NAMES! 

[lllannallll]

@CAnswersTV "Did Jesus promote "unity & peace" with the religious community in his day (read Matthew chapter 23)? He called people NAMES!" Well, one "name" that neither He nor any other inspired writer ever called anybody was "Baptist", and one name that was never applied to the church was "Baptist church." So to distract from people who call themselves "Christians" and nothing more - knowing full well that they can't argue THAT point - they just make up another name to call someone.

[CAnswersTV]

@lllannallll You're a REAL bible scholar, aren't you? You say no "inspired writer ever called anybody ... Baptist"? I suppose you've only read the first few chapters of Genesis before falling asleep, right? Read Matthew 3:1, ever hear of a guy named John the "Baptist"? Try Mark 6:14, Luke 7:33 (is this Jesus talking here?), & many others. For you, ignorance MUST be bliss! Where in the Bible are Christians COMMANDED to use only a PARTICULAR NAME for their church? Campbell called it CONGREGATIONS.

[lllannallll]

@CAnswersTV LOL John was THE Baptist: his name was JOHN. He's the only one you ever read about in the Bible, isn't he? Well, where'd all the rest of them come from? As far as "Baptist church", of course, you can't defend THAT one at all - it's just a "made up" name. Look at the weakest of the reply: "Where in the Bible are Christians COMMANDED to use only a PARTICULAR NAME for their church?" Why, Christians weren't "commanded" to use a "particular name".

[CAnswersTV]

@lllannallll You conveniently FORGET that YOU claimed that the word BAPTIST was NOT mentioned in the Bible or by Jesus & YOU WERE WRONG on both counts weren't you? Now you're DODGING AROUND trying to claim that church names like "Baptist Church" are "made up" as if there was something WRONG with that. The Bible nowhere commands Christians to use a PARTICULAR name for its gathering place or congregation thus Christians have LIBERTY on this issue & others (read Romans 14). Forsake Campbellism!

[eleutheroo1]

...it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. (1Co 1:21).

...but to preach the gospel (1Co 1:17).

Preaching the Gospel by one whom God has sent is God's appointed means by which men are saved.

It's not by the arguing and philosophizing of academic theologians in opposing corners of a boxing ring.

[CAnswersTV]

@eleutheroo1 It's obvious that you don't regard the Biblical gospel as "significant" or else you would have never made this "eternally" off-the-mark comment. Don't you understand that the Bible says that if you preach "another gospel" different that what is preached by the apostles (as recorded in the Scriptures) then you are eternally damned by God (Galatians 1:6-9)! The Campbellites say the gospel is to be water baptized by immersion or else you are damned to hell, get it? Water is their god.

[CAnswersTV]

@eleutheroo1 It's impossible for you to "totally agree" with me if you "still stand" by your statement. This is an irreconcilable contradiction in phraseology. If you agree with me then you'd agree the subject of "works salvation" by water baptism & their "to do list" (Campbellite 'Church of Christ' doctrine) is not the same Biblical way of salvation (salvation by grace not works, Ephesians 2:8-10) & thus is necessarily of ETERNAL SIGNIFICANCE to the hearers of this debate. You miss the point.

[atlasshrugged2u]

And you want me to become a Christian when they can't even agree on their own doctrine?...yeah right.

[bxsweetie1]

thats not fair... they only put up their prospective

[CAnswersTV]

@bxsweetie1 The idea here was not so much to be "fair" but to get people to watch this brief highlight of a Church of Christ debate & then tweek their interest enough to watch the full length versions of our debates with the Campbellites. We put an ad for this on the video. Simply go to either YAHOO VIDEO or GOOGLE VIDEO & once on their homepage type LARRY WESSELS, then look for the complete & uninterupted versions of our Campbellite debates. Check out our 22 hour & 13 hour debates for starters.

[lllllannalllll]

Note that the followers of John place "repentance" before "belief" - and can't quite explain why 99% of the verses that connect faith with salvation do not even mention repentance, including their favorite - Eph 2: 5-8. I would ask, "After hearing Peter's wonderful sermon on Pentecost, being pricked in or cut to their hearts, and crying out 'What Shall We Do" - AT THAT POINT, were they believers? If not, why weren't they told to believe? Seems odd.

[CAnswersTV]

@lllllannalllll Please keep in mind that Christian teachers, preachers & evangelists do not have the "power" to convert wicked sinners into righteous believers & faithful followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, only God has that power. Christians just preach the word (2 Timothy 4:2), God grants the increase (1 Corinthians 3:6) & God grants the repentance (2 Timothy 2:24-26). Remember, with men it is impossible but with God all things are possible (Mark 10:27). God is sovereign in this capacity.

[lllllannalllll]

@CAnswersTV You please keep in mind that I asked two questions, and you chose not to answer either, nor will you. Nobody questioned the sovereignty of God, who preaches the word, or who grants the increase. It's a good thing the questions weren't on a test; you'd have made a zero - and the first one was either "yes" or "no"!

[CAnswersTV]

@lllllannalllll It's clear that you simply can't understand the Biblical concept being explained here in relation to your "questions." If you understood the concept of God's sovereignty in salvation then you would understand that people become true believers when God grants them repentance (2 Tim 2:24-26) & the Spirit of God "quickens" them (John 6:63, Jn 3: 3-8 - not water baptism but the Holy Spirit). Therefore whoever the Lord chooses (Romans 9) are true believers in Acts 2 or anywhere else.

[bjobe1964]

@CAnswersTV "It's clear that you simply can't understand the Biblical concept ..." One concept that IS fairly easy to understand is that you "ban" anyone who disagrees with you - and if any comments or questions are deemed too "touchy", you'll delete the comment also AND ban the commenter. You make your ASSERTIONS - and that's all they are - they when questioned, you "respond" - then ban the user - to give the impression that you "answered", and the "querist" just had nothing more to say LOL

[CAnswersTV]

@bjobe1964 Your statement is totally false & misleading. The very fact that your comment here hasn't been "deleted" or "banned" proves that your comment is FALSE. Any reader who desires to see OPPOSING comments can go to our over 90 videos here on CANSWERSTV & scan through the hundreds of comments posted. Some comments have been deleted for foul language or an obvious waste of time after a point has been made (Titus 3:10). You just DON'T like our "assertions" & therefore whine about it, grow up!

[MrSERVANT777]

@lllllannalllll Plz note this: If the didnt believe they wouldn't have asked Peter the question what shall we do....more over as stipulated in Heb 11:6 "For without faith (Which is Belief) It is IMPOSSIBLE to please him..." so any one thaat come to MUST believe.

[itzmcclain]

I truly believe that often times we confuse men by saying baptism is the single act that gives salvation to man. I do not believe that. Though it is EXTREMELY important... it is merely the OUTWARD DISPLAY of that repentence and that belief and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ... If you truly have repented and believe in him, you would be baptized JUST AS HE HIMSELF WAS...

John said... "I need to be baptized of u..." and Jesus said... "suffer it to be so, so that we might fulfill ALL righteousness

[CAnswersTV]

@itzmcclain Hardline Campbellites are saying that baptism is ESSENTIAL to salvation, being indwelt by the Holy Spirit is not. They have created another gospel (Galatians 1:6-9) by manufacturing this "works righteousness" religion begun by their founders Alexander & Thomas Campbell, Barton Stone & Walter Scott back in the early 1800s. See video "The Rise of the Cults! Are You in One?" here on YOUTUBE for more background history on this. Baptism is important but it isn't the means of salvation.

[itzmcclain]

This man just said... that Jesus never baptized anyone...

John 4:1; Though he may not have done it by his own hand, my bible clearly teaches that he DID INFACT indirectly...

Also there is so much emphasis on repent and believe... but what about "Repent and be baptized everyone of you... "Acts 2:38"

what about "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved" Mark 16:16;

What about "Go you therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them.." Matt. 28:19;

DO NOT DE-EMPHASIZE BAPTISM!...

[CAnswersTV]

@itzmcclain You've already agreed with "this man" by saying in essence that Jesus "may not have done it by his own hand" so your point is mute. Next you have missed the point of this debate completely perhaps because you don't totally understand the Campbellite doctrine on baptism. True Campbellites are saying that BAPTISM IS IN ORDER TO THE REMISSION OF SINS, get it? They say you're lost without baptism but you can be without the Holy Spirit, get it? No one is saying baptism is not important.

[blueskunk12]

@itzmcclain

How do we receive the Holy Spirit, by believing in Jesus or by being baptized? What does the Scripture say?

John 6:29

Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

Your belief is not based on faith in Christ alone. Your belief is works based, saying we MUST be baptized.

I am convinced that baptism is not essential to our salvation. Otherwise, it would be based on works, like Acts 15:5 where they insisted that everyone be circumcised.

[bofts]

wow 20 years ago

[InTheseBooks]

no you are mistaken are you judging others beauty God says i am the judge are you the judge beauty or just your opinion of how salvation is to you? But you state like the hypocrite you are since your church taught it you think salvation is from of the word that you add in works and Jesus never talks about works being sufficient for salvation.

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[CAnswersTV]

@InTheseBooks I always find it interesting when dealing with people like you that you are so quick to call me a "hypocrite" & to judge me as being "wrong" simply because I "judge" people for being "wrong" & being "hypocrites"! Don't you see the HYPOCRISY of your comment? Don't you see that YOU are behaving like a HYPOCRITE by saying I am "wrong"? YOU are DOING what you ACCUSE me of doing! Read Matthew chapters 7 & 23.

[beautyfuljoy]

There is more to it than just believing! So many only go that far, but fall to remember that "faith withut works is dead." Look at James 2:17 "Even so faith, if it have not works, is dead in itself." If you still believe that you can be saved with just your faith, you are mistaken seriously. James 2:24 says "Ye see that by works a man is justified, and NOT ONLY by faith." Faith is important and without it there is no belief.

[CAnswersTV]

@beautyfuljoy You need to watch our 16 hour series on Roman Catholicism via YAHOO VIDEO (once on their homepage type "Larry Wessels" in the search box & look for it). Right here on YOUTUBE you can watch the full 2 hour debate between Larry Wessels & Dr Robert Fastiggi (Does Romanism Preach Another Gospel? Debate). These are favorite Romanist Bible verses used to make salvation FAITH + WORKS. No, Eph 2:8-10.

[layzie805]

At the 7 min mark where he is speaking of the 'other' commands that are not necessary for salvation, my refute to that is that all commands are necessary for salvation. What commands does the Bible give that we can just say 'eh, I don't want to do that'? Where does it say we can pick and choose the commands to follow? Jesus says that if we love Him, we will obey His commands. So I ask you, what happens when we do not obey his commands?

[CAnswersTV]

"layzie805" If you knew, let's say, the epistles of Romans or Galatians for instance, you would have NEVER said what you said here. The scribes, Pharisees, & other legalists took the very road you are travelling. Are you seriously saying that KEEPING EVERY SINGLE COMMAND (don't forget the 613 commands in Moses' Law also) IS NECESSARY FOR SALVATION?? WOW, you are a TRUE CAMPBELLITE to the MAX! Christians try to keep Christ's commands because they LOVE Him, NOT AS A REQUIREMENT TO GET SAVED!

[layzie805]

My point is we are required to follow all commands and yes we will slip up and break some but that is why we have God's grace, b/c we can repent and receive to forgiveness, but to just say that these 'other commands' are not necessary is unscripturely.

[CAnswersTV]

@layzie805 Any Scriptural command is necessary to follow as far as obedience goes but not as a MUST to acquire salvation BY that obedience. To say you MUST obey every last command IN ORDER TO BE SAVED is a LEGALISTIC HERESY which will result in DAMNATION (Galatians 1:6-9) for those that believe such a false gospel. Acts 10 shows there are some Old Testament COMMANDS which are no longer REQUIRED in the New Testament which shows that there are "other commands" that are "not necessary."

[layzie805]

I still don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to say. First off, the OT commands are irrelevant b/c we are not under that law, the only OT laws that we are still bound by are the ones that are spoken of in the NT. The speaker made it out that "other commands" are unnecessary to follow as long as one believes & repents, but that is not true whatsoever. Every command in the NT is not directly required for salvation, but indirectly they are b/c we don't have the authority to choose.

[CAnswersTV]

@layzie805 I DO UNDERSTAND what you are saying. The MORE I analyze your statements the MORE you start backing off & MOVE closer to my position. Regardless, "other commands" are NOT NECESSARY FOR SALVATION. Believers obey EVERY Biblical COMMAND because they are ALREADY SAVED & SEALED FOR ETERNITY (2 Corinthians 1:22) thus they CANNOT LOSE THEIR SALVATION meaning "other commands" are not necessary. They keep His commands because they LOVE God (John 14:15) NOT to keep from LOSING salvation.

[layzie805]

@CAnswersTV There is no suck thing as "once saved always saved"

[CAnswersTV]

@layzie805You have no actual idea what the Bible really teaches about salvation. When someone actually presents a Biblical view it is so alien to you that it seems impossible. That's what limited Bible study will get you & buying into Campbellite cultic doctrine. Have you never read the first chapter of Ephesians? True Christians were PREDESTINATED BY GOD to be SAVED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! It's hard to lose your salvation in a situation like that!

[layzie805]

@CAnswersTV So by me disagreeing w/ you means that I have no clue what the Bible says? I like how you judge me and assume I'm a member of the Church of Christ by calling me a 'Campellite'. Really mature there, pft. Anyway, quote the scripture in Ephesians you are speaking of. Before I quote any scripture, please answer this, you believe that someone must simply believe to be saved, so what if they stop believing, are they still saved?

[CAnswersTV]

@layzie805 After finally looking at your Youtube site with all the football, sex & rock & roll stuff you have posted there it might be a good possibility that you are not a straight laced Campbellite afterall. It looks more like you are a worldly type of religionist of some sort (based on your comments here, not your rock & roll site). Eph 1:4-11. Be "born again" Jn 3:3-8.

[layzie805]

@CAnswersTV So are you now judging me b/c of the videos posted on my channel? Funny b/c several of those are from Christian bands. You fail again. You still didn't answer my question, if all one has to do is believe and they receive eternal salvation and if one cannot lose that eternal salvation (once saved always saved) what if that one no longer believes?

[CAnswersTV]

@layzie805 It's interesting that you justify your "sex, rock & roll" material on your channel by saying "several" are "from Christian bands" as if these "Christian bands" are going to cover your sins. Your faith in "bands" rather than the Jesus of the Bible will not save you from the wrath to come my friend. You're missing the Biblical point, you "repent & believe" (Mark 1:15), God saves you, not you (Romans 9:11-22) thus it's eternal. Apostates were never saved (1 John 2:19, Hebrews 6).

[layzie805]

@CAnswersTV There is no justification, it's called not passing judgement, you need scriptures on that topic? So b/c I have rock bands on my channel then my faith is in music and not the Bible? You're very funny. You have still yet to answer my question. You continue to try to attack me by judging me b/c you see rock songs on my channel when you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. So answer my question or stop replying to me, simple as that.

[CAnswersTV]

@layzie805 There is plenty of scriptural justification to judge you since that's what the Bible teaches, starting with Jesus in Matthew 7:15-20, then 1 John 4:1, Romans 16:17-18, Titus 1:10-14, Ephesians 5:5-7, 2 John 7-11, 2 Corinthians 11:4. Did Jesus judge people? Matthew 23, Mark 11:15-17, What about John the Baptist? Matthew 3:7, What about Paul? 1 Corinthians 5:3, 1 Timothy 1:18-20. Your doctrine is corrupt & so is your YT channel.

[layzie805]

@CAnswersTV Well since you're more concerned with judging me by my channel and not what you hare advocating here and since you have completely ignored my question to you, this will be my last reply to you. You have clearly shown that you are like several other Christians in this world and you will believe what you want and whatever makes you feel good and not what the the Bible teaches. Have a good day!

[CAnswersTV]

@layzie805 Good bye! There is no one so blind who refuses to see. Your question was answered a gain & again. Just look at all your comments with all my replies. Actually I went above & beyond the call of duty in your case simply because other readers may benefit from the Scriptural references brought up. Titus 3:10 would apply in your case but I went further to help other readers. Repent & believe on Jesus ALONE for your salvation!

[paden981]

This is stupid and by teh looks of this channel and the people of this broadcast teh look stupid as well. The deabte you showed wasnt an actaul deabte it was just puting people in fron tof each other and l;eting htem argue. IF you deabte do it right. I will also add one more thing. The baptist are wrong in tehre doctrine. I am a member of teh church of Christ becasue it teaches the truth which i have found. I would galdly discuss with a baptist anysay without any fear what sover.

[CAnswersTV]

"paden981" the only thing "stupid" besides your comment here is your spelling! Don't you know how to type on a computer key board? Have you had a problem with DYSLEXIA in your life, & if so, it would explain why you are a member of the Campbellite cult that you are so proud of. A Campbellite "church of Christ" member is certainly theologically dyslexic, meaning they get everything backwards in regards to Biblical salvation. You don't get baptized to get saved; you do it AFTER salvation!

[paden981]

Well if I was going to take the time and cheak for my typing errors I would and you wouldnt see them.

Now in regards to me being a cambelite I will have you know that alexander cambell wasnt the founder of the 1st centuray church. I am a member of that same church in the first centurary. Alexander came out of the catholic church and started geting back to the bible and not man made doctrine along several other people. So I dont hold to camble and dont know if he was even totaly correct.

[CAnswersTV]

@paden981 You're CORRECT, Alexander Campbell was NOT the founder of the First Century Church (see our website HISTORYCART COM for early church history & doctrine). The Church of Christ CLAIMS that Alexander Campbell was one of four "RESTORERS OF THE ANCIENT GOSPEL" which states that WATER BAPTISM is in order to the REMISSION OF SINS. Campbell & his followers (which now includes you) taught & believed that WATER BAPTISM gets you saved & makes you a Christian. Biblically this is NOT true at all.

[56kOoLKiD56]

ay ay ay read the manuel kids....the devil is the prince of the air ...he wants to confuse you ..with all these other churches...

[CAnswersTV]

I assume 56kOoLKiD56 that by saying "read the manuel" you mean read the Bible which is our guide & manual to get through this life (2 Timothy 3:13-17) as Christians. With this I totally agree because your following statements also make sense along these lines. Without the Bible the devil will surely succeed in confusing the situation. It's exactly because people do not read or understand the Bible properly to save themselves from this confusion. The world is a dark & confused place (Rev 12).

[99minerkc]

There WAS NO divine Jesus Christ(possibly not a real Jesus)savior of man!! Man CREATED the concept of salvation as a way to control people and what a HORRIBLE tactic is was!! RELIGION IS PURE EVIL!

[CAnswersTV]

"99minerkc" you simply DO NOT know WHAT you are talking about! The God of the Bible has provided more than enough EVIDENCE.Thousands of fulfilled Bible prophecies (over 400 fulfilled messianic), archaeological (Bible contains real cities & places), historical (Bible contains actual people, not fictional), manuscript evidence (Dead Sea Scrolls, museum document preservation, better than ancients Homer, Plato, Aristotle, etc), and statistical (written over 1600 years by 40 authors reading as one).

[99minerkc]

Well, SHOW ME some empirical evidence that Jesus was divine PLEASE!! IF your god is truly around somewhere and is all "powerful", all "loving", all "caring" it wouldn't be so secretive!! Surly this god would show itself in a way OTHER THAN a man made book!

[CAnswersTV]

That's a fair request "99minerkc" since our ministry strives to do that. Keep in mind Jesus did say in Luke 16 that if people don't believe Moses & the prophets (meaning the Bible) then they won't believe even if someone were raised from the dead to tell them about it. Remember also that God does not "love" everybody but only His elect (Romans 9:11-13, Ephesians 1:1-11) so God sends delusion to believe lies on the rest (2 Thessolonians 2:9-12). For evidences go to our website BIBLEQUERY ORG.

[99minerkc]

On the other hand, IF this god is man made, what better way to control people than by threatening them to accept this god or be damed to an eternity in a hell!! The perfect way to control the masses and it worked and still is(although more and more people are waking up and dumping this religion)

[CAnswersTV]

99minerkc the Bible says that this world is aready under the dominion of the Devil (Revelation 12:9) & the Devil uses false religion (including the religion of Atheism) to control people. Either all the religions are false (including your homemade religion) or one of them is right (the Bible has the best evidences going for it of all the phony religions out there including yours). Jesus said in the last days not many at all will believe the Biblical gospel (Luke 18:8 cf Luke 17) as we now see.

[99minerkc]

You are like all other christians in that you go to the bible scriptures(WHICH WERE WRITTEN BY MEN)for ALL of your answers! It's unfortunate that you cannot think outside of the box(bible)but to do so would mean entering dangerous ground for a christian(reality) I'm done talking to you as you can't provide any empirical evidence to support your extraordinary claims and empirical evidence NOT faith is what I require!

Take care and peace to you

[CAnswersTV]

Sorry to hear that "99minerkc" since your response came back only a few minutes after I recommended you check out our website BIBLEQUERY ORG which answers 7700 Bible questions & gets into the type of empirical evidences you were asking about. It's obvious you're not interested in really finding out about these matters but rather you want to justify your own homemade religion. We also have HISTORYCART COM covering early church history & teachings. Should you change you mind please take a look.

[gateroadmusic]

Denying that something exists, including Jesus, does not cause it to be so. You, as well as everyone else on the planet, know that gravity exists not by seeing gravity, but seeing the evidence of gravity and if you jumped off a ten-story building you would demonstrate that it indeed existed in spite of your denial of it existing. There is evidence that Jesus exists and since you say He doesn't it is your obligation to bring forth evidence that proves he does not exist.

[CAnswersTV]

Well said "gateroadmusic"! It's always refreshing to get some good logical input concerning the issues at hand. Keep up the good work! Since I have a little space left here I'd like to advertize to readers that we have over 200 hours of Christian theological videos posted on the internet (go to GOOGLE VIDEO & search LARRY WESSELS on their homepage). GOOGLE VIDEO should show the different videos we have up on CLIPSER, VIMEO VIDEO, YAHOO VIDEO, AOL VIDEO, & numerous other places. Blessings.

[dennreed23]

Trinity this a term used by the Catholics. The churches of Christ use the term "GODHEAD" as stated in the New Testament, aside from John 1:1 and 14 (which the Iglesia ni Cristo doesn't accept) read 1 John 5:7 that proves the doctrine and deity of Christ. those who rejects Christ is an anti Christ. I think it is written in the epistle of john or peter.

[CAnswersTV]

The term "Trinity" dennreed23 is simply a theological term used to define in a short, concise way what the Bible teaches about the nature of the Godhead (Father, Son & Holy Spirit, Matt. 28:19). Similarly, the term "Campbellite" in a short, concise way defines the theology of "Church of Christ" preachers & teachers who derive their beliefs from founder Alexander Campbell. Please go to "Yahoo Video" (search "Larry Wessels" on their homepage) & check out our 4 hour video series on the Trinity.

[stilots1]

the Church of Christ (Iglesia Ni Cristo) that was re-emergence in the Far East in this last days is the true Church that was originally build by our Lord Jesus Christ (Isaiah 43:5-6, King James Version) (John. 10:16), (Acts 20:28, Lamsa Version), (Acts 2:39, NKJV), (Isaiah 43:5, Moffatt Version), (Isaiah 46.11, KJV), the country Philippines is the fulfillment of the prophesy establish by messenger from the Far East - nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom (Matthew 24:6-8)

[CAnswersTV]

Now "stilots1" you should know better than to come on here with your phoney claims about a cult group started by a former Seventh-Day Adventist named Felix Manalo in 1914. You might as well be a Campbellite following Alexander Campbell; you'll both end up in the same place. Your denial of the divinity of Jesus Christ & the Trinity already means you are on your way to perdition but you can repent & thus be saved. Please go to Yahoo Video (search Larry Wessels) & see our series on the Trinity.

[stilots1]

CAnswersTV why don't you try to speak to one of the Minister of Iglesia ni Cristo or Church of Christ near you and not just finding answers in the internet about Felix Manalo, there is not such thing written in the holy bible about the word TRINITY this word is created only by someone who assumed that God is existing in three persons. there is only one God in heaven. the bible is written in mystery not everyone has given the chance to understand the meaning of it unless you are chosen by God,

[CAnswersTV]

"stilots1" I can tell by your answer that you have not taken my suggestion & checked out our 3 hour series on the Trinity on YAHOO VIDEO (search LARRY WESSELS). We also have a 2 hour debate posted there with a nonTrinitarian such as yourself. You're wrong, there is plenty of Biblical evidence for the Trinity (see our websites BibleQuery org & HistoryCart com also). You mention "chosen by God," see our 6 hour series on Biblical Presdestination on Yahoo Video as well. You're in a false cult.

[stilots1]

CAnswersTV you are in the false religion my friend show me the word TRINITY in the holy scriptures in the bible not that stupid VIDEO that only created by man on their wrong interpretation, remember even the the most genius man on earth cannot understand the meaning of the holy scripture because it is written in mystery only the chosen or messenger of GOD can only understand the meaning of it. and sadly you are in the wrong side my friend, speak to one of the Church of Christ minister near you

[CAnswersTV]

"stilots1" you're claiming the 1914 cult "Iglesia ni Cristo" created by a MAN named MANolo is the truth OVER what the Bible plainly teaches. If you had bothered to look at our videos or websites concerning the Trinity you wouldn't be saying the silly things you are saying. But since you are not willing to investigate the Biblical evidence & instead have devoted yourself to Manolo & Iglesia ni Cristo as your god, the saying about the spiritually deceived would apply to you (II Thess. 2:9-12).

[stilots1]

Iglesia ni Cristo is not a cult, and Felix Manalo is just a Man a messenger of God, I've already seen the video and biblical evidence you are saying about but non of them saying that there is a exact TRINITY words in the bible its only assumption comes from the mind of men not with the words of GOD, and the (II Thess. 2:9-12) are pertains to your self, now its your chance to talk to the church of christ minister to be enlighten by the words of True GOD the father in heaven. peace!

[CAnswersTV]

"stilots1" you should know better than to tell untruths on this site. Are you saying that since yesterday you watched the 3 hour Trinity series, the 2 hour Trinity debate, watched the 1 hour program on "Jesus, Trinity, & Resurrection" & went to our three websites & checked out the volumes of material we have posted there on the Trinity as well? Since yesterday? MANolo is a false prophet, not a messenger of God because he denies what the Bible plainly teaches. You have followed your "leader."

[stilots1]

all of the teaching in Iglesia ni Cristo are come in bible how about your religion? ok if you religion is the true one, show me prophesy or evidence that the founder of your church and your religion is written in the holy scripture, and has chosen to be a messenger of GOD aside from ISRAEL people?

[CAnswersTV]

Once again "stilots1" you wouldn't be asking questions like this if you had checked out our websites or videos. Please quit wasting time & look at our resources AND THEN make your criticisms. BibleQuery org answers almost 7700 Bible questions, HistoryCart com answers what the early Christian church taught from the beginning & MuslimHope com will deal with Islam & its attack against the Bible. We're closing in on 200 videos on YAHOO VIDEO on all types of subjects from a Biblical perspective.

[stilots1]

once again also why can't you answer me with my SIMPLE question if you already know were you stand for and instead you told me to see those video and go to your website.

[CAnswersTV]

"stilots1" we have almost 200 videos on Yahoo Video alone, 128 on Google Video, 28 on Youtube & 3 websites all based on what the Bible plainly teaches. Iglesia ni Cristo, MANolo & his man-made doctrine perverting what the Bible teaches is not necessary. Your 'simple question" is a cop out since you are unwilling to see what we have. We answer 7700 Bible questions on BibleQuery org besides the other 2 websites. The answer is in our videos also. Please stop wasting our time (Titus 3:10-11).