Obama talks with Joe The Plumber

[DonShappelle]

rumor has it that "Joe" is related to a guy involved with McCain and the Keating Five Scandal.

[woodrat123]

who needs plumbers anyway? especially ones with 250 incomes and heads like a bladderheaded swamp donkey.......

[KoryKosky]

i dont know why people is taking this joe the plumber thing against Obama when actually should be good for Obama. He explained perfectly everything to the guy.

[sweetbilly]

He also lied about the flat tax plan, when you buy food or anything else you pay taxes right then and there. When you get your paycheck you pay the taxes right then and there. You are paying taxes on the same shit over and over again!!!!If you institute the flat tax plan, the rich don't have write-off's any more and you pay "lower" taxes because now "EVERYONE" is paying their fair share of taxes. We are paying more than 70% in taxes right now, 40% looks like a "TAX BREAK" to me Osama.

[sweetbilly]

Gawd I'm so fucking frustrated with the people in this country today, the ignorance just astounds me to no end. This man is the product of the Chicago political system, the most corrupt system in the country. DoH! Obama just proves if you repeat the same thing long enough people will eventually buy it. "i hate Bush", "95% tax breaks for everyone", End the Iraq war" blah, blah, blah. This man is a walking bumper sticker, there is not real world reality to anything this man has ever said.

[09AUTUMNUS22]

You give criticisms with no solutions or better ideas. We can't end the Federal Income Tax and go to a flat tax till we pay off the Federal Reserve. It's like trying to close a credit card before you pay off the bill. You never told us why McCain is better. Therefore your arguments are nothing more than ad hominem attacks. Give it up. I'll tear you to shreds for trying to debate here. Hillbilly boy.

[09AUTUMNUS22]

You're assuming there is no State Tax. You're assuming they are going to set the flat tax at 40%. Osama? Why are you so obsessed with calling him names? Is it because you have no real arguments. You're attacking a straw man.

[sweetbilly]

BULLSHIT ALERT:

First of all bam bam, not everyone pays taxes in this country and the rich write them off as business expenses anyway. Second of all, this isn't a tax cut when you raise taxes through the moon first. Third, trickle up economics doesn't work anyway nimrod, when you tax the rich they raise prices ON US at the grocery stores and gas stations. And what are we gonna tell them we aren't going to buy your food, clothes, houses, etc today? Please nigga you couldn't run a McDonalds

[sweetbilly]

And when you do find a way to tax the rich to death they just close down their businesses or move them to Europe, Mexico, India or China where there are no fucking taxes. Yes America, vote for this chump/chimp, it's about time you ignorant dipshits feels the pain liberal shit bags like this half wit ghetto nigger puts upon us. The "ONLY" economic policy that has ever worked in a "FREE MARKET" economy is to cut taxes and limit Government interference.

[TiqueO6]

Obama explained his concerns away but "Joe"(not his real name) the "Plumber" (not a licensed plumber) had his remarks prepared and won't listen to reason.

Doesn't he know that to NET 250K his business would have to GROSS over a million (or so I've heard). If that were the case I suppose he would be able to afford the 3% increase on the amount over 250K, no?

[AnarchPrince]

What so many people fail to understand is the last tax increase on high incomes forced many American businesses to seek labor in Mexico & China and other cheap labor countries, causing a loss of jobs. Obamas plan will raise that tax even higher and drive more businesses away, along with the jobs they provided.

McCain's tax break "for the rich" isn't to benefit the rich, its to keep jobs in America and encourage new businesses, thus creating more jobs.

[priorzola]

Anarch, so being that OBAMA'S tax plan more resembles ROnald Reagans and McCain resembles the dismal tax policy of tax cuts to the rich under Bush (who himself, because of his HORRIBLE ECONOMIC POLICY has bankrupted the country and led to a socialist take over of banks) leads one to ask the question: who is the BIGGEST SOCIALIST? Reagan (who shared Obama's tax policies) or Bush (who spear-headed the largest corporate BAILOUT in history? BTW small businesses create more jobs than corporations.

[nickrock23]

the last big tax increase on the rich was in the mid 90's. what followed was the biggest growth and prosperity in american history. jobs didn't start leaving until the current admin supported foreign subsidies and a ban funding stell cell research. biotechs got up and left the states, costing the economy nearly a trillion since 2001. not to mention tens of thousands of customer service jobs gone to people who can't speak english.

[09AUTUMNUS22]

Wahhh! I'm going to be taxed more. There's no excuse for sending a job overseas and paying them pennies. In fact that violates UN LAW. UN LAW states that it is a human right to be paid fairly for their work. Companies like Nike can afford to pay more taxes and pay Americans...but they choose not to. Why? Greed. They need to make a certain profit to satisfy shareholders. These people are fucking evil.

[sweetbilly]

The U.N. LMAO do you really think countries like China and Russia give two fucks about UN law? Man talk about being fucking naive. Don't tell me you're buying this Obama we're gonna tax the rich bullshit???? You know why the Iron industries in this country are DEAD, because China and Russia use fucking slave prison labor in mining, manufacturing, etc... they took over the market because their shit is "CHEAP" it flooded the market and killed ours because we tax those companies to fucking death.

[sweetbilly]

You can't control international labor laws or economic policies in sovereign nations, and they are competing with us and gaining ground every year because of idiots like Osama Bama and his fucked up socialist economic policies. How in the fuck are people and companies in this country supposed to compete with slave labor when you tax them clear out of their profits??? Growing business, businesses who keep more of their money, invest in their business, that's what creates jobs. Not taxes.

[sweetbilly]

Damn are Americans really this fucking ignorant today????? Don't buy the bullshit people, Bareback Obama is just Bill Ayers mouth piece. Birds of a feather flock together. If you elect this mother fucker you better be ready to live in a card board box. Taxes have a place, but not in an economy like this. Obama will drive the wealth out of this country, PERIOD!!! Most if not all little businesses get their work from big businesses, if you drive out the big businesses you kill little businesses

[09AUTUMNUS22]

So, everyone who is connected to Bill Ayres is guilty? That means Bush is guilty of terrorism. After all his family did business with Bin Laden family. You're making hasty generalizations. And across the board statements. Therefore your arguments don't work. You need to think before you type. Don't just repeat FAUX NEWS.

[09AUTUMNUS22]

We can control labor laws. We should control labor laws. Isn't Palin a socialist?  Socialism means everyone benefits from the resources from their land. Everyone in Alaska benefits from the oil. Competition? Competition creates "better than" products, not the best. You only have to be better than the other guy. You don't have to do your best, cause it's not about personal development.

[09AUTUMNUS22]

We don't follow U.N Law either. So what's your point? Hell yes, I want to tax the rich. There taxes are going to go up 3% like the Clinton years. Oh, no! I have no sympathy for rich people. They fuck us over. Did you know a recent independent study was released about Wal-Mart and Sam's Club bottled water, and what did it say: it's deadly. It's worse than tap water. But, I'm sure you're an idiot who thinks free-markets will fix everything.

[chrissup19isgay]

How many people makes more than 250K a year, so Obama said it already, if you make 250K down, you WON'T PAY more taxes.

Most police officer, fireman, teachers, social workers, construction workers, small business owners, DO NOT MAKE MORE THAN 250k

in fact, they make up 95% of Americans.

Unlike McSame, he wants to tax the majority of Americans and give the richest of the rich a tax break.

Unless you are Bill Gates, Obama is your man

[AteBoo]

Obama's talking circles around this guy. In the end, what I get is... There's a sliding scale to the taxes you pay because we want to share the wealth whether you're rich or poor. It's stupid. We could give a hobo $20 or we can give him a job. Which sounds better? We need more jobs and more opportunities to increase finances not charity handouts to spread the wealth around for everybody...

[chrissup19isgay]

FACT:

1) This guy is not a plumber.

2) He is not an owner of any business

3) If he ever owns his boss business, he will still NOT fall on the top tax brackets Obama targets, so he will NOT be taxed. In fact, he will have tax credits under Obama's plan.

4) He is a racist, he compared Obama with Sammy Davis Jr. When you look for someone to compare another person with, you look at the character, not the color of the skin.

5) This guy has two liens and owes back taxes to the state of OHIO

[killene1]

I think Joe comparing Obama to Sammy Davis was because of his looks and thinness.

[jakersvlog]

I'm just curious (and I don't disbelieve you) but where are you getting these facts about this guy?

[chrissup19isgay]

@jakersvlog

go to the state of Ohio website and search for his name under liens

[Pimpjbmore]

where are u getting this from?

[ExZonie]

Tearing Joe down makes your fake messiah look worse, so keep it up, dipwad.

[giantkingfan10]

he says the middle class will get a tax cut but the middle cclass wil get 36 percent and right now it is 30 percent so he lied right to someones face

[jblong]

However, even if he does give a tax cut, Why give a handout of my hard earded money to every crackhead in the mill village who doesn't pay taxes anyway, but their going to get a check on my dime. Right now you have a choice between the lesser of two evils and John McCain is the lesser. At least he's served his country,and didn't pal around with folks who hate this country. Joe the Plumber was a lot nicer than I would have been. Obama is a disgrace to everyone who has sacraficed for this country

[ExZonie]

I support you jblong.

[jblong]

I intend to work hard and quickly accel beyond obama's limit. I do not have a college degree or rich parents. I have a wife and 4 children and faith. I give money to charity and to church and help many people in need. When I get above barak's threshold, I don't want to give more to the government. He's saying tax cut but really your taxes will stay the same and the dirty politicians will fatten their pockets with more earmarks. All OF Them!!!

[jblong]

notice at 32 seconds into the video Barak says that 250k and less then your taxex are going to stay the same, but then he mentions at 42 secs that businesses making more than 250k will be taxed on the income above 250k at 39% implying that the income below will be taxed at a standard rate putting joe the plumber into 2 different tax brackets. Why does he keep mentioning tax cuts when he just said their taxes will stay the same. Clean the wax out of your ears people.

[chrissup19isgay]

@jblong

actually because most Americans who make less than 250K will pay LESS TAXES with Obama unlike McCain.

get more informed.

[dayglowgreendoor]

This guy is gonna buy a plumbing business that already grosses $250K? I don't believe that the business is that profitable. I sincerely don't believe it.

[ExZonie]

How does attacking a regular plumber make your fake messiah look better? Oh wait, keep it up and antagonize those independent voters you need. Unless you've stolen enough votes already, which is probably the case.

[JackSalem]

Nomatter how much you might want to hate Obama - you've got to admit, his plan just MAKES MORE SENSE.

[namonation]

Joe, I understand your concern about you being taxed because you are making or will be making more than $250K, but think about most of the people making less than that. Did you really think about what Obama asked you when years ago that you were making less? Stop worrying about you being taxed more. You should be more concern about your customers who I am sure making less $250; the less money they have less customers you'll get.

OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA!...

[ExZonie]

Yeah namon. We producers are supposed to just shut up and pay taxes for everyone else. Well Atlas is about to Shrug bigtime, tool.

[namonation]

Do you really/honestly share your wealth?

Or your Financial advisor tells you to donate to charity because it is tax deductable. McCain giving tax cut to rich people so they can share it to regular people. Common! that's BS. $250k/year or more,dont you think thats alot for a regular family? Well! I guess getting use to it kinda make anyone GREEDY. will that additional tax will prevent you for getting luxury car or expensive vacation.

[namonation]

I want you to look in the mirror and ask yourself "Do I really helped anyone from the bottom of your heart without thinking about self-apperance, money and time?"

[MuglyTheWorm]

joe had it all wrong, he's doomed as a small business owner before he started

[xSpectatoronex]

at least he's honest