The Beginners Guide to L. Ron Hubbard (1/6)

[JesusGaveMeNewSoul]

Why doesn't this guy stop being such a fat glutton GOD hating antichrist, answer me that. HE has not himself asked for the Holy Spirit nor the Living Water while reading the Gospel, all he has is a shallow religion God allowed Satan to bring to ALL those who ignored the Gospel, so they will be deceived because they rejected the Son of God and the gift of God, HIS SPIRIT placed into us making us ONE with God through the cross, all you who deny Christ will die in your sins and perish forever.

[JesusGaveMeNewSoul]

Because JESUS KNOWS humans need to alter their consciousness, because the NEW WINE was on its way, the Living Water within, it was symbolic, Jesus did that to represent the present that was to come, the Living Water AKA Heaven within you now on earth, HIS SPIRIT... and also Jesus showed that HE cares about our most smallest needs, HE did heal, feed, Resurrect the dead as well, TALK about that why don't you! Incredible, you deny God and call God a liar if you deny Christ and His message.

[FlashGordon5x]

Does anyone known the classical piece that starts at 1:44 into this video? It sounds like Vivaldi...

[CMO5569]

Looks like he smells bad. Currie with BO with rotting molar. Looks like he should sound like APU from Simpsons, but actually sounds like a Beatle. Very confusing.

[guyinthest]

This an important video as it shows a reasonable intelligent person getting sucked into a cult. As a journalist it serves him right for not researching the subject throughly before in getting involved. He runs into trouble when he doesn't ask HIMSELF why they all sound the same and is well and truly doomed when he doesn't pursue the SF aspect of it, for which as a journalist he should be sacked. John Sweeney this man is not.

[Soc245]

this guy is kinda funny! :)

[some1sweetlyspecial]

this makes sense tho. psychology says tht there could be troubles of the past stuck in ur subconscious mind tht can create problems for all ur life. If this method can bring those problems out and give u a power to face them and finally move on than it is an effective way of helping out with enlightenment.

[WillShakespeare2007]

an Asian happy to have a go at Christians but he would be too much of a coward to say a word about Muslims as we all know he would wind up with his throat cut.

[prankmypants]

im starting a new religion called painentology. basicly we just waterboard you till you see god. we even help your money troubles by simply getting you to give all of yours to us. its a wonderful thing, come join the future! lol

[aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa78815]

@prankmypants i was thinking the same thing. but my church will also run casinos and sweat shops

[taichibailongball]

If you want to read something, that's fine. There are lots of good books on the topic. However, because the fact that you haven't made an objective effort to evaluate the topic you haven't found them. But, again, I'll humor you.

A good book on the topic is: Race, Evolution, and Behavior: A Life History Perspective by J. Philippe Rushton

I doubt you'll read it and even if you do actually read it you'll just read it with your own preconceived Obamabot sunglasses on.

Good day, sir.

[chuckbeattyo]

03:04 lady in the lower right corner, Barbara Ruiz, former ED ASI. tom cruise is clapping enthusiastically in that moment in the upper part of the screen.

It would be interesting to see how current independents will interact with these older freezone groups.

I think these people have to all be considered Scientologists, even though, technically, per Hubbard's 1982 scripture entitled "Misrepresentation of Dianetics and Scientology" Hubbard would consider these people NON Scientologists.

[netfeed23]

I´m german scientologist. This documentation is very good. (also they dont show any standart-tech). But anyway: This gives a pretty good insight. L Ron did an amazing thing revealing this wisdom to mankind. Read Dianetics. Find out yourself.

[mebeluvined]

that makeup didn't help

[fivepointsix]

this man is a crook and a sex pest and an anti-semite.

[gelkaim]

@fivepointsix ummm... have a sense of humour!  did not get anything antisemitic from this video!

[Gabiwynne]

Haha organise a piss up at your friends wedding haha good point

[Az260790UK]

if he says he doesnt believe in organised religion why does he wear a sikh turban?

[ctvwr]

If a Jew doesn't believe in god, why do we still consider them Jews?

[taichibailongball]

@ctvwr Because the nucleus of Judaism is race. Not God. There are many Rabbis who are atheist's.

[ctvwr]

@taichibailongball

I think this is too simplistic. There are essentially two different things the word "Jew" refers to. On the one hand, there is a distinct ethnic group, or more accurately, a collection of ethnic groups under an umbrella group.(not "race" by the way, such things do not exist) And then there is the religion. I think the two things are different, though overwhelmingly they occur together.

[taichibailongball]

@ctvwr Race doesn't exist? lol The brainwashing institutions we call schools and media have done a good job on you, I see.

[ctvwr]

@taichibailongball

Oh, really? Could please provide a coherent and scientifically supported account of the concept "race"? Anthropologists abandoned that concept many decades ago.

[taichibailongball]

@ctvwr To deny the existence of race is like to deny the existence of different breeds of dogs. It's just silly and the "antrhopolists" that have fervently denied the reality of race are motivated by political pressure and are merely obeying the political correctness that rules over us all.

[ctvwr]

@taichibailongball

Did I ask for speculation about the motives of the scientific community? No. I asked for evidence. Produce evidence, not conspiracy theories. kthnxbai.

[taichibailongball]

@ctvwr No amount of evidence will alter YOUR politically motivated opinions would be my guess but I'll humor you.

You can start with this:

watch?v=H1ePILrB11c

[ctvwr]

@taichibailongball

You tube videos don't count. Try again. Try something peer reviewed, or from a respected textbook.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball This is not true at all... a rabbi by definition is first and foremost Jewish by religion.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim I never said a rabbi wasn't Jewish. But thanks for trying. Come again. Don't forget to try the steak.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball Actually you said that there are many rabbis that are atheists... which is 100% FALSE... which is why I clarified that ALL rabbis are religiously Jewish and not simply Jewish, which can mean Jewish by ethnicity/identity and not necessarily by religion.

No need to get so defensive when you are factually wrong. But I guess in your words "come again. Don't forget to try the steak"

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim If you say so but I happen to know I am right. And, if what you say is true then why do Jews who are openly atheist still consider themselves Jews?

I don't know about you but I don't know of any Christian atheists. I don't know of any Muslim Atheists.

Only Jewish Atheists. It's an aggressive, manipulative clan that hides behind the cloak of a religion.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball Ok, so here is the distinction... you are right, there's a difference between religious Jews and ethnic Jews (e.g.atheists) (I agree that race does not exist, I simply used the word because it is what people sometimes mistakenly use in the place of ethnicity or identity)... but in your post you talked about atheist RABBIS, which do NOT exist. Atheist Jews - YES, atheist rabbis - NO... since the word rabbi is defined by its being a religious leader.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball Linguistically Jews only have 1 word for the religious label & ethnic label. Unlike, eg, Muslims & Arabs (where Muslim = religion and Arab =cutural/regional label). Such that we can have Albanian Muslims or Christian (or atheist) Arabs. Thus, this is simply linguistic and I don't see why Jews should not be able to decide what they believe religiously and still be able to identify as Jews and prcative Jewish tradition, or however it is they wish to exercise their Jewishness.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball

Identity is always personal, and I don't think it's any business of yours (or mine for that matter), to decide or judge how someone should live their identity and in this case, their Jewishness.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim Spoken like a good slave. The power the Jews hold over the pales in comparison to anything Scientology will ever have.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball wow, what an intelligent come back!

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim Over the planet, I meant to type. Anyway, the truth is the truth. You questing my intelligence doesn't change that. The Federal Reserve controls our economy. The Israeli lobby controls our foreign policy. Our unofficial religion is the Holocaust.

Anyone who dares question anything Jewish is marked by the media and denagrated and brought to their knees.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball it's not up to me to judge your intelligence... I'm just responding to your labeling me as a slave, which is kinda silly since all you know of me if from a few sentences. Again, I don't think you're in a position to pass judgment.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball & as it happens, I am Jewish, so call me the devil, or part of a manipulative clan that hides behind a cloak of religion. What a load of shit. The truth is that I believe the Israel lobby has for far too long controlled Washington. (Read a book by Walt and Marsheimer... jews that oppose this, called "The Israel Lobby" I think it is), & that often the holocaust is manipulated, BUT, that's why the critical Jewish voice is growing (see J-street), because many jews feel the same,

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball and believe me, it has taken an incredible amount of muscle for Jews like me to battle that which you have stereotyped, as we too have been crushed, but not anymore.

The fact of the matter is that like with any group of people, there are ALL types. The spectrum is ever exclusively black and white, that's why it is called a spectrum. Thus being so simplistic is, in my opinion, incredibly naive.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim The Jews have been exiled from every country they have occupied throughout history. Now either something is wrong with EVERYONE else or something is wrong with the Jews.

 Yes, you use the whining, "oy vey we are persecuted" mantra very effectively. The fact is Jews are usually the one persecuted others but use their perpetual victim status as a free pass to abuse others. Jews think they are better than everyone else but cry about individuality when they get marked accurately.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball ok, again, you're slightly off the mark. I don't think that the jews were persecuted because there is something wrong with us. I think that minorities everywhere have been persecuted, some into non-existence and I think it's pretty amazing that the Jews have survived. And the repetition of persecution is not a surprising thing, since as a human race, we never learn from history, and have always continued to repeat it.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball I 100% agree with you with regards to the victim mentality. I hate it, I hate the way it's used, I hate the way it's used by many Jews, and I for one, refuse to be a victim. And I do think it's a hypocrisy when I see what's going on in Israel/Palestine. I was discussing it earlier with a Jewish friend, how I hate how Israel uses the continuation of the Jews as a justification for discrimination and violence. Jews are very split over this.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball

I also reject the superiority mentality, which again many Jews feel (and again, many don't).

Clearly u have not been exposed to many Jews, or at least to Jews across the world, which if u had, u would probably have different feelings, because u would realize that Jews are just as complex as everyone else, (again the spectrum), that seldomly do we ever agree with each other... hell, in my own family, we reside on completely different extremes of the jewish/political spectrum.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim Jewish occupation results in a degraded host country regardless of your "spectrum".

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball this is not untrue, but it is very simplistic... & clearly if it was that simple, the situation would look very different.

I'm not going to discuss over youtube possibilities for the situation to look different, mostly because I don't believe u have the answer, and I certainly don't, & because this kind of conversation, altho engaging, should be an in-person conversation, & one where those engaged have a mutual respect for one another... which is clearly not the case here.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim I don't respect or disrespect you. As you mentioned, conversations over the Internet, particularly on a forum such as Youtube, don't go very far. So, to be quite frank, I haven't really been trying. I generally just have a distaste for people who ignore the negative influence the Jews have had on the world and act as if they are some kind of blessing to the rest of us when this is far from the truth.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball The really sad thing about ur perspective is it fails to realize all the wonderful things, the positive influence that Jews have had on the world... &there are certainly a great deal of things, probably disproportionately high, in terms of medical developments, technology, contribution towards academics and literature, etc etc etc. So whilst i 100% believe in being critical and not ignoring the negative, I believe it is just as important to not forget the positive.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim And, yes, I do not hate all Jews. I don't hate any Jews. Just as I do not hate Arabs but cannot ignore the fact that they have a tendency to do some nasty things.

Just as I do not hate Scientologists but this does not change the fact that they tend to be controlling and manipulative.

Don't take me as being aggressive simply because I am observant, my friend.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball Oh no, not aggressive... observant is good, but the lens seemed a bit skewed, and I'm sorry your tone seems to be so full of resentment. And I mean that there is something to be critical of with regards to EVERY population, and also something to celebrate...

Furthermore, I do not believe u can equate Muslims and Jews with Scientologists, but that's a discussion I don't wish to enter into.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim You try to justify the wrongdoings of the Jews by saying "hey, nobody is perfect". That's like saying a mass murderer should go free because "hey, nobody is perfect". Yes, all races and cultures have their virtues and their faults, but some are much more manipulative and destructive than others.

Scientology is very much like these other religions only it is at it's beginning stages. It will become more lax in it's methods and as it gains more power will increase in aggressiveness.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball No, you misunderstand. I am not saying there is any justification for the wrongdoings. What I am saying is that there is a larger picture.. afterall, who are these wrongdoing (as per ur definition) Jews? It is very easy to use a group label and lump a population within it when u have no idea of the discourse within the population, the division,etc. I think it is VERY simplistic & naive to equate a population (which u clearly don't know v well) with an individual mass murderer.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim I have been around Jews my whole life and know them VERY well. If it were not for my exposure I would have continued to believe the stereotypes were inaccurate, but it has been Jews themselves that have proven to satisfy the conditions that are credited to them.

You assume incorrectly. As the old saying goes, an anti-Semite is anyone the Jews do not like. Who do the Jews dislike? Anyone who is honest about Jews. It's pretty simple, really.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball ok, so exposure to a few communities, and you are the expert. I am Jewish, have grown up in Jewish communities in Zimbabwe, Israel, London, the US, Belgium and South Africa, and I am still figuring out that Jewish communities are far more complex and diverse than I ever imagined.

And an anti-semite is anyone that is semitic, including arabs.

I don't think there's any need for this convo to continue as the crux is that your mind is made up, closed for business.

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim This conversation is closed for business because apparently you already know my mind. How Semitic of you.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball hahaha... on the defense again. YOU told me that YOU KNOW Jews... so if you know them, what is there to discuss? It is not my objective to change your mind. You are completely welcome to think and believe whatever you want as far as I'm concerned. And if you want to be insulting "how semitic of u," be my guest. Yes, very semitic of me! I am a proud semite, hehehe... this is hilarious!

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim A war-like, criminal state in the Middle East. A decrepit media. The Israeli Lobby. A law system made into a joke.

Yes, I may not know all the little intricacies of the Jews but I know enough to have a general understanding. I may not know all the details of cancer cells but I know them well enough to know they aren't good for the host.

The thing I know most about Jews is they never shut up. For some reason silence terrifies them.

[gelkaim]

@taichibailongball a clear case of pot calling kettle black, hahaha

[taichibailongball]

@gelkaim Oy vey. You really showed this goy, didn't you?

[Anayden]

@Az260790UK Cause its stylish? Probably just where he's from...IDK

[BeepStratten]

@Az260790UK Hardep has always worn a turban- he likes it. He went to a Jesuit school, just so ya know!

[HerSurmaEyes]

@Az260790UK Sikhism is not a religon, its a way of life...sikhs have no rules...Sikhism is an eastern faith...eastern faiths are totally different to western faiths

[Az260790UK]

@HerSurmaEyes really? sikhism is not a religion? i know the difference between eastern and western faiths, my family are Muslim and i have many friends from the Sikh and Hindu community..

[folkhippy]

It's a cultural thing. Kind of like Jews who wear yamakas but never pray or worship, it's just their cultural identity.

[MotherOfTheETOS]

@Az260790UK wearing the sikh turban can also be an expression of cultural identity is my guess. Sikh religion isn't a heaven and hell type of religion. There is reincarnation and enlightenment and the New Age movement and Ekankar seem to have borrowed a bit from Sikhism. It has more in common with Buddhism than Scientology or the three Abrahamic religions: Judaism, Islam, and Christianity.

[icantthink02]

@Az260790UK I believe it’s because turbans are cultural not religious. Judging by the fact he trims his beard which Sikhs should not I am assuming he is not a practicing Sikh hope this helps.

[aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa78815]

@Az260790UK head dresses are cultural not religous. its like saying everyone that wears a baseball cap is a mormon or some sort of american christian

[MrGrotbag]

looks like this sex pest has plenty of time on his hand after being suspended for 6 months for his disgracefull antics towards a bbc research assitant i hope they sack him like carol thatcher

[superwackyfuntime84]

Wait he does not believe in organized religion but he wears a turban for what style. Maybe I'm ignorant but is that not sheik; an organized religion. By the way, I already pointed out my possible ignorance, in your responses do not be redundant.

[Harizl]

That was a response from Co$, as we all know they strive for perfection when doing their fact-checking.

[alifeofgrime]

you can believe in the morals given by a religion but not believe in organised religion i.e: not giving your money to a church or taking advice from a priest etc but living your life based on the values of the bible or wearing a turban as outlined in their scripts

[Az260790UK]

yeh, sikh thas wot i thought

[gazdaman91]

incorrect he is a sikh

not a sheik..

u ignorant twat

[NautiKijana]

He does believe in an organised religion, Sikhism, and he was offended that they did not recognise his religion as organised.

[Tyhmb]

kill all scientologists!!

[p3ppyhar3]

no...kill Scientology, scientologists are just mislead and brainwashed..its sad actually. They are not to be blamed for the way they think and act. These are professional brainwashing techniques used for thousands of years, even Hitler used them.

[Racsonify]

@p3ppyhar3 , Please read my comm on part (6/6), thanks.

[yiqanuc]

Cos 7773 Thank you! I love this! This is the only intelligent exploration of COS on youtube, for those who want to understand it without hearing the mud slinging nonsense (from either side).

[transfixedtornado]

I think it's good to show some other sides to Scientology than just what goes on at pickets, or the many scandals that the organization produces and is involved in.

Especially the point that there are people practicing Scientology outside of the Co$ itself is great, it shows that the two are not necessarily identical.

It seems more and more to me that Hubbard and Miscavige are very ill advised on how to deal with critics.

[donaldTfox]

Cool film. Grats.

[musicalmoses]

This whole series is wonderful, it is great to get a glimpse of this religion without too much of a skew

[andrewtheman19]

I'm all for Jesus jokes but not from people who hold equally dumb views. Hypocrite.

[Wilbur665]

This is better than "John Safran vs God"

[jjdalpe]

Excellent expose. There is much to experience through auditing. It is powerful.

[BnThDnTh]

He didn't go far enough into it. He didn't find out about Xemu.

:-)

[DeeFoot]

Scientology relies on hypnosis techniques originally created by psychiatrists. This is why L. Ron Hubbard was afraid of them. They could see through the method being used in training and auditing without the participant understanding what was happening to his mind.

Scientology was designed as a mind control scam. When L. Ron became more unbalanced the IRS moved in and set up an new organization with Miscavige as its head. They own the trademarks to this day. It is a lucrative experiment.

[Clockworkforest]

"the IRS moved in and set up an new organization with Miscavige"

Wait, you mean the Internal Revenue Service? Could you direct me to a source for more on this?

[clubtour]

@Clockworkforest Check the Dane Tops interview on Project Camelot's website.

[theheathyfella]

Check out the secret life of l ron hubbard.

A plagarist and charlatan.

[diggszEVARWARE]

but do you not notice that scientology does the exact same thing? everyone who protests or even questions it, is hit with a flurry of slurs and accusations reguardless of their factual basis

[BallerinaSmiles]

I do belive you are talking about the Current management of the Church of Scientology.

[zenoizen]

At least the video shows auditing, etc. You don't often get a chance to see this stuff.

[BallerinaSmiles]

You mainly dont see it because most people consider it to be private. :)

[Anonafindyou]

LOL...As ive said in a few others comments...The FreeZoners are COMPLETE AND UTTER NUTJOBS! These are people that break free from the grip of the cult and its brainwashing techniques. Yet they are still so weakminded they refuse to disbelieve in the absolute shit that $cientology passes off as "religion" (i.e Money Making Scam).

Sure, believe in this crap, but only a complete fucktard would compare Freezoners to Protestants.

[SeanKey71]

What is your definition of religion? For people who are trying to take on religion or just one religion, you may need to be clear on what religion is before you go and make an utter ass out of yourself.

If you want fodder for your argument you will find that scientology does fall into the category of religion(depending on which scholars research you like) and the real bulk of the problem lays in its management strategies and practices. I am not a scientologist nor am I a freezoner.

[Humansupreme]

Wtf is this shit garbage. If you can't take one look at L Ron Hubbard and know immediately that he's totally Bat Shit Insane along with everything he ever did or make then you're a fuckin idiot.

[drakester34]

While that is true, I used auditing with my Freezone uncle to get rid of some of my nervous ticks. Scio auditing is lame and takes advantage of its followers, but the Freezone auditing is surprisingly effective.

[an0n0myss]

This is a free-zone production to 1. exalt the benefits of LRH lunacy, while 2. distancing themselves from the CoS proper.Nice try but I'd prefer you simply stated your case than dramatizing a scenario of a seemingly unbiased persons transformation into the beliefs of the lunacy. THIS, clearly did not happen as shown, and mister Kohli is 1. clearly already a lunacy sympathizer, and 2. acting a role to that effect. Well done, I must admit, but see it for what it is.

Thank you for your time.

[reeferstar]

scientoligy is no more of a scam then chrtistianity

[ghostnostic]

Lay off the reefer and do some research. But most of all, do not breed!

[Shigureh]

Subtitled version for masses delight.

[blackwhimsy]

Hi there.Great video.

Re Jesus & the Wine:Christians find it impt 'cos God wants an intimate 1 on 1 relationship with us.

He cares about our concerns,big AND trivial.

The host was humilated,and Mary asked him.

Small hassle?Yes! that's the point.

Jesus doesn't solve ALL problems,as He expects us to do our bit to help ourselves & others.(Free will)

However,the W 2 W shows us we can't always change the world,but,like Jesus,of we can change something in our immediate environ,thus doing good.

[planet7news]

This is not a critical video.

It mostly demonstrates the benefits of scientology.

[sushidose]

looks good so far.

[WiseBeardMan]

Mark is wise.

[plenty2say]

What kind of camera did you use to make your film? You don't seem like most Sikhs I've met before.

[Vertigo6911]

dude about the wine, dont diss it before tasting it :P

[rba718]

Hope you got 10,000 bucks.