Jazz aint entertainment bro its art..theres a big difference..art is self expression and creativity, entertainment is mindless simple stuff ment to just get a quick kick ex. the corporate music thats out now..and hey u can still dance to art
If Bobby were still alive,he would be shocked at the arguments put forth on this page...it's all about the art man...not who's better.Bobby Enriquez loved playing Monk tunes as much as the "next" genius...
Music is a melding pot, no one musician or style is better than the next, simply unique. All styles and interpretations are necaessary to make true musical progress. What sounds good to one person sounds horrible to the next, that is what makes music so beautiful. Our lives are interconnected and so our music should be as well. Just because you appreciate someone's style over another doesn't mean that person is a better musician. In music there is no such thing as overrated.
unfortunately this sheds little new light on the lore of one of the greatest jazz concerts of all time. Monk sure didnt confide in Keep. much; i.e. didnt bother to tell Keep why he hired Overton to do the arrangements. I was at the concert, had no idea who Overton was.
The guy is such an obvious genius, picking him is another display of Monk's genius.
Don't insult Rouse's memory by calling his role with Monk
"endless" and "comfortable" Trane cast a giant shadow, it was everywhere.
Thanks Brett for making available another important piece of jazz history.
The Monk at Town Hall has got to be one of my favourite jazz recordings of all time with some of the greatest soloists around at that time. Byrd in particular played some of his best recorded stuff on this. So pleased that Monk sorted him out with threats of bringing in Lee Morgan if he (Byrd) didn't make rehearsals.
yo xpressivist how can you say you LOVE jazz and then say someone is better than someone especially monk technicality if that whats your saying might be justifyible but to say someone is more entertaining when they play so they are better is sayin ive heard jazz but i dont listen and by the way there is so much math involved with jazz that you might want to rethink the science thing a little
The is no productive end result in comparing ANY art in terms of what or who is better or the best. There is always bias and in many cases there is no accounting for taste. Apples and oranges. Sure, you can rate ones technical ability against another. But then the other person may have better MUSICAL chops. One thing you CAN do is say if you PREFER one thing over another, but then one's preferences may change over the years. EX: I hated Miles Bitches Brew when released. I now LOVE it.
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i'd go for oscar peterson. he's my guy on the piano. i'm pretty sure he's better than enriquez and monk. oscar peterson playing and lady day singing is an excellent combination.
You have to be a moron to say Bobby Enriquez plays better than Monk. Or that American Jazz artists are over rated. That's ridiculous. American's invented Jazz.
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enriquez didn't write many musical works. its in the way they play on the piano. i think its very obvious that enriquez is more confident and relaxed on the piano than monk. therefore, enriquez plays better than monk. its a claim about the ability to entertain and impress an audience. jazz is a form of entertainment. its not a science. i cannot be right or wrong about that claim. its a minimal claim. that is only what i claim. nothing more or less.
i wouldn't call it a minimal claim to call monk less 'confident' than any other pianoplayer. it's a gigantic claim, and a gigantically absurd one. maybe you like enriquez better, and maybe his style has a more 'relaxed' feel to it, maybe enriquez is a hugely underrated player, but that's about as far as you can go.
@xpressivist once again we have a johnny come lately trying to sell a nobody, who wanted to be somebody to everybody. The music world and musicians shine the light on Monk, who was full of funk, to the whole world could see that he was a genius,creatively
Jazz as art and not a science? You know every damn thing dont you?.
@xpressivist If you think that this is the criterion, then you should check out Michel Camilo playing Giant Steps. Of course, then you would say he's the best ever...
@xpressivist jazz is not a form of entertainment.. nor are jazz musicians or musicians in general entertainers.. were not entertainers.. thats what hollywoods for. we are liberators, freedom givers, characters that awake sleeping people from what their missing in their daily lives. some sort of influence, inspiration, and being. not entertainers. if your entertained, you did that on your own. but monk did not entertain you, he liberated your thoughts by playing music into your ea
@xpressivist jazz is not a form of entertainment.. nor are jazz musicians or musicians in general entertainers.. were not entertainers.. thats what hollywoods for. we are liberators, freedom givers, characters that awake sleeping people from what their missing in their daily lives. some sort of influence, inspiration, and being. not entertainers. if your entertained, you did that on your own. but monk did not entertain you, he liberated your thoughts by playing sounds into your ears.
i have been listening to jazz since i was a kid. i love jazz and some other american cultural influences then and now. my country, the philippines, has a century of illicit love affair with american culture since we were bought from spain by america for 20 million dollars at the treaty of paris in 1898. hence, filipinos can appreciate jazz more than other asians, and probably more than any other europeans.
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bobby enriquez was far more advanced and creative on the jazz piano than any american or european jazz pianists. americans and european jazz artists are extremely OVERRATED. it can only be explained by americacentrism and eurocentrism in music pervading the world after the second world war up to now.
How can you say that the guys who actually created Jazz are lacking in their jazz ability? It makes no sense. Chuck Berry helped form Rock&Roll; so on principle it's not an argument to say that, oh I don't know, that Hendrix is better than Chuck Berry. Berry can't be touched; he created the thing.
@xpressivist give me some music by this guy, sounds interesting. I feel that all these people once they reach a certain level are "there" so to say one is better than other is just to voice opinion. You sound like what your espousing is from an inferior complex when you shouldn't have one. Jazz is an American creation, but great players are every where. There are great players in Asia/Africa also, so why don't you be inclusive as oppose to exclusive.
@xpressivist A wild man in the style of Art Tatum. Brilliant in his own style! Not elegant jazz in the style of Bill Evans or avant garde but still brilliant with his piano percussive usage (use of his elbows and fingers)! Improvisations may not be conceptually deep as there is no outside playing or develomental improvisation) but still brilliant! Kudos to the great Bobby Enriquez! Great technique, but he doesn't have the concept, the pushing of the harmonic envelope like Monk.
Haha, but most of the performers I really, really like are all dead! I guess it's a good thing, though, 'cause if I had the chance to see/meet some of these guys before they died and I didn't, I'd be upset. Are you still a Jazz fan? What was the 5 Spot like?
Jazz aint entertainment bro its art..theres a big difference..art is self expression and creativity, entertainment is mindless simple stuff ment to just get a quick kick ex. the corporate music thats out now..and hey u can still dance to art
tanvo93 8 months ago
god he talks soooo slowly
samfrizell 8 months ago
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Young folks, look at history here. Look at it.
SeerTrulth 1 year ago
If Bobby were still alive,he would be shocked at the arguments put forth on this page...it's all about the art man...not who's better.Bobby Enriquez loved playing Monk tunes as much as the "next" genius...
Guitfiddlejase 1 year ago
how he can be so white ??
ashizun 1 year ago
xpressivist is nothing more than a troll. Please don't feed the trolls.
tadd1 1 year ago 3
Music is a melding pot, no one musician or style is better than the next, simply unique. All styles and interpretations are necaessary to make true musical progress. What sounds good to one person sounds horrible to the next, that is what makes music so beautiful. Our lives are interconnected and so our music should be as well. Just because you appreciate someone's style over another doesn't mean that person is a better musician. In music there is no such thing as overrated.
marchingeagle2011 1 year ago
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Excellent bit of music history.
Thanks!
Takasee1 1 year ago
unfortunately this sheds little new light on the lore of one of the greatest jazz concerts of all time. Monk sure didnt confide in Keep. much; i.e. didnt bother to tell Keep why he hired Overton to do the arrangements. I was at the concert, had no idea who Overton was.
The guy is such an obvious genius, picking him is another display of Monk's genius.
Don't insult Rouse's memory by calling his role with Monk
"endless" and "comfortable" Trane cast a giant shadow, it was everywhere.
codaues 1 year ago
1:12 priceless headgear!
bardobound 1 year ago
Excellent bit of music history. Thanks!
CamTheCat 2 years ago
RE: person I knew...
(Bill Evans' anagram for OK)
4854derrida 2 years ago
Outstanding
spyderman57 2 years ago
This posting is a gem. Thanks.
swirlcrop 2 years ago 4
Stop talking shii!!! Enjoy it without talking!! I just don't get it, people "bla bla blu" during the jam!!!!
Those old guys aren't even fun! Jazz lovers may agreed or not.
DrunkenFigther 2 years ago
Can't we just hear Monk instead of Blah blah blah???
trebor95405 2 years ago 7
That's what I thought but these videos are really interesting documents
jazzmunky 2 years ago
you can listen to monk whenever you want
orin keepnews is a living link to those days, so SHUT UP & listen to what you want
szumo1982 2 years ago
thank you a quadrillion times :)
i was about to bust a cap in somebody's ass LOLz
FTWyousuck 1 year ago
Thanks Brett for making available another important piece of jazz history.
The Monk at Town Hall has got to be one of my favourite jazz recordings of all time with some of the greatest soloists around at that time. Byrd in particular played some of his best recorded stuff on this. So pleased that Monk sorted him out with threats of bringing in Lee Morgan if he (Byrd) didn't make rehearsals.
donnythejazz 2 years ago 2
lets sum this up quickly, monk was a genious, any questions?
troutvt 2 years ago 7
what's the name of the song you can hear on the first seconds ?
cjorata 2 years ago
man this guy again -- i thought it'd be just monk --- false advertising
pillarosociety 2 years ago 12
"This guy" is the actual subject of the film: Producer Orin Keepnews.
duteros 2 years ago 4
right. but the title of this video is T Monk at town hall
pillarosociety 2 years ago 6
False, the title is "ABOUT Thelonious Monk at Town Hall"
DODECASONICO 2 years ago
@pillarosociety Hey man---Keepnews was a HUGE part of the jazz landscape-give him his due.
Guitfiddlejase 1 year ago
My mentor is on these recordings !!!! He's playing french horn on this record. Bob Northern( Brother AH)..........
shivabala9 2 years ago
This old lumpy dude is fun
CiscoNast 2 years ago
MONK IS FUCKING GOD BITCHES!!!!!!!!
BrewedinMarin 3 years ago 19
Amen.
ignarukih 2 years ago
Sorry for the typo.
Thanks for the great videos, JazzvideoGuy!
kpfaff1224 3 years ago
How does the old saying go?
Mozart and Beethoven's disagreement are closer that your agreement.
In other words: shut your mouth!
You really need to be a great musician if you're going to critique a great musician: like Monk
kpfaff1224 3 years ago 3
yo xpressivist how can you say you LOVE jazz and then say someone is better than someone especially monk technicality if that whats your saying might be justifyible but to say someone is more entertaining when they play so they are better is sayin ive heard jazz but i dont listen and by the way there is so much math involved with jazz that you might want to rethink the science thing a little
PromiseInMyPocket 3 years ago
The is no productive end result in comparing ANY art in terms of what or who is better or the best. There is always bias and in many cases there is no accounting for taste. Apples and oranges. Sure, you can rate ones technical ability against another. But then the other person may have better MUSICAL chops. One thing you CAN do is say if you PREFER one thing over another, but then one's preferences may change over the years. EX: I hated Miles Bitches Brew when released. I now LOVE it.
dotdadee 3 years ago
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i'd go for oscar peterson. he's my guy on the piano. i'm pretty sure he's better than enriquez and monk. oscar peterson playing and lady day singing is an excellent combination.
xpressivist 3 years ago
You have to be a moron to say Bobby Enriquez plays better than Monk. Or that American Jazz artists are over rated. That's ridiculous. American's invented Jazz.
ipings 3 years ago 3
Exactly, perhaps what he was implying is that just because you are an american jazz artist doesn't mean that you are an amazing jazz artist.
hartery5 3 years ago
This xpressivist guy is something else. I'm pretty sure the artist of the time new about him if it's so. chill out dog on the definitive comments.
mecorn56 3 years ago
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enriquez didn't write many musical works. its in the way they play on the piano. i think its very obvious that enriquez is more confident and relaxed on the piano than monk. therefore, enriquez plays better than monk. its a claim about the ability to entertain and impress an audience. jazz is a form of entertainment. its not a science. i cannot be right or wrong about that claim. its a minimal claim. that is only what i claim. nothing more or less.
xpressivist 3 years ago
It's not a contest about who's better. Each man has a unique musical voice.
JazzVideoGuy 3 years ago 12
Regardless, mine sucks. Despite my ability to hit any pitch at any time.
Simonomon2 3 years ago
i wouldn't call it a minimal claim to call monk less 'confident' than any other pianoplayer. it's a gigantic claim, and a gigantically absurd one. maybe you like enriquez better, and maybe his style has a more 'relaxed' feel to it, maybe enriquez is a hugely underrated player, but that's about as far as you can go.
bertdockx 3 years ago
@xpressivist once again we have a johnny come lately trying to sell a nobody, who wanted to be somebody to everybody. The music world and musicians shine the light on Monk, who was full of funk, to the whole world could see that he was a genius,creatively
Jazz as art and not a science? You know every damn thing dont you?.
TheGoldrock1 1 year ago
@xpressivist Are you his lover?
tadd1 1 year ago
@xpressivist If you think that this is the criterion, then you should check out Michel Camilo playing Giant Steps. Of course, then you would say he's the best ever...
DocOfTones 1 year ago
@xpressivist jazz is not a form of entertainment.. nor are jazz musicians or musicians in general entertainers.. were not entertainers.. thats what hollywoods for. we are liberators, freedom givers, characters that awake sleeping people from what their missing in their daily lives. some sort of influence, inspiration, and being. not entertainers. if your entertained, you did that on your own. but monk did not entertain you, he liberated your thoughts by playing music into your ea
HendrixClaptonSRV 1 year ago
@xpressivist jazz is not a form of entertainment.. nor are jazz musicians or musicians in general entertainers.. were not entertainers.. thats what hollywoods for. we are liberators, freedom givers, characters that awake sleeping people from what their missing in their daily lives. some sort of influence, inspiration, and being. not entertainers. if your entertained, you did that on your own. but monk did not entertain you, he liberated your thoughts by playing sounds into your ears.
HendrixClaptonSRV 1 year ago
@HendrixClaptonSRV Amen. Well-stated.
amd77j 11 months ago
i have been listening to jazz since i was a kid. i love jazz and some other american cultural influences then and now. my country, the philippines, has a century of illicit love affair with american culture since we were bought from spain by america for 20 million dollars at the treaty of paris in 1898. hence, filipinos can appreciate jazz more than other asians, and probably more than any other europeans.
xpressivist 3 years ago
right, so you were born in 1898. Got it.
taxiology 3 years ago
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bobby enriquez was far more advanced and creative on the jazz piano than any american or european jazz pianists. americans and european jazz artists are extremely OVERRATED. it can only be explained by americacentrism and eurocentrism in music pervading the world after the second world war up to now.
xpressivist 3 years ago
Interesting perspective. Perhaps you could post some links to his music.
JazzVideoGuy 3 years ago 3
How can you say that the guys who actually created Jazz are lacking in their jazz ability? It makes no sense. Chuck Berry helped form Rock&Roll; so on principle it's not an argument to say that, oh I don't know, that Hendrix is better than Chuck Berry. Berry can't be touched; he created the thing.
jamianm 3 years ago
@xpressivist give me some music by this guy, sounds interesting. I feel that all these people once they reach a certain level are "there" so to say one is better than other is just to voice opinion. You sound like what your espousing is from an inferior complex when you shouldn't have one. Jazz is an American creation, but great players are every where. There are great players in Asia/Africa also, so why don't you be inclusive as oppose to exclusive.
17205513 1 year ago
@xpressivist A wild man in the style of Art Tatum. Brilliant in his own style! Not elegant jazz in the style of Bill Evans or avant garde but still brilliant with his piano percussive usage (use of his elbows and fingers)! Improvisations may not be conceptually deep as there is no outside playing or develomental improvisation) but still brilliant! Kudos to the great Bobby Enriquez! Great technique, but he doesn't have the concept, the pushing of the harmonic envelope like Monk.
17205513 1 year ago
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bobby enriquez from the philippines played better than monk.
xpressivist 3 years ago
R U his publicist?
JazzVideoGuy 3 years ago 6
What do you mean?
greatersiren 3 years ago
I was at the Carnegie Hall concert in '64, not
recorded commercially and a follow-up to the
'63 Philharmonic (avery fisher) Hall recording
of '63...remember it well!
charlieparka 3 years ago 2
I remember hearing my dad's Town Hall concert album when I was like 15. That shit blew me away. Still does! :o
Monk was not only an artist, but a true musical innovator. RIP, T.
Zeitgeist74 3 years ago 2
M O N K
saxcrobaticfanatic 3 years ago
special!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
osumashionutubekai 3 years ago
I was 21 and I WAS THERE!
Saw him many, many times at the 5 Spot.
HepKatt139 3 years ago 2
I'm jealous
jamianm 3 years ago
Don't be jealous; I'M OLDE!!!
You're gonna' hear alot of musik which
I ain't...
HepKatt139 3 years ago
Haha, but most of the performers I really, really like are all dead! I guess it's a good thing, though, 'cause if I had the chance to see/meet some of these guys before they died and I didn't, I'd be upset. Are you still a Jazz fan? What was the 5 Spot like?
jamianm 3 years ago
MONK!!!! my man! xoxo
stacyblue1980 3 years ago
I can't wait for Jason Moran to start touring this music...
TommyWalt 3 years ago
Amazing concert.
The orchestrations of Monk's solos are mind blowing and the different solo personalities give different stories within the whole.
wb ...
wbnyc 3 years ago
Bought the original album in Paris . . . Great stuff.
klassiekerrally 3 years ago
My uncles had a great collection and I love it as they did.
lilbits 3 years ago
YEAH !!!
nakajazz 3 years ago