It doesn't matter what country the U.S. invades, the occupants of that country are not going to like it. I wouldn't like it if the U.S. came up here and started shooting people and trying to justify that it was a "matter of national security" Seriously people, America has been constantly at war with someone ever since it came into existance.
America leadership is too timid to prosecute this war with the level of brutality required. Image if today's leaders had to fight WW II ... the surviving Americans would be speaking German today.
Nearly a decade after 9/11, Al Qaeda remains! This fact speaks volumes of the leadership in America!
The taliban want us out, the american people want us out, the afghan people want us out, and the world wants us out. So lets do that, get all of our infantry troops out Afghanistan, every single troop.
Following may be a few reasons, why US actively initiate & promote wars, violence, conflicts and chaos across the globe, away from its main land. This is a synopsis of an article I read in the net
1. Wars create direct consumption for US defense/aerospace industry. Defense/Aerospace industry is the back bone of US technological superiority & have monopoly.
2. Each war is followed by construction work, which is mostly done by US firms.
No one is clear, because the reality of what the US does in the world is completely hidden to us by the media. Have you ever read "Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man" or "Secret History Of The American Empire". Why on Earth would anyone think Osama bin Laden is any more of a reason than WMD in Iraq. Our people are our country, and we allow out own people to be treated like garbage, not to mention how we treat people in other countries. I agree with Bernie, but how to prevail against evil?
Im not defending anyone here but heres my view, The taliban want us out, the american people want us out, the afghan people want us out, and the world wants us out. So lets do that, get all of our infantry troops out Afghanistan, every single troop. If the taliban don't continue violence since they got there wish that were out then good its all peaceful, but if they continue their violence for any particualar reason then it will justify why were there. Anyone feel me?
@m1grand70 WAR is Money. defence contractors make more money. Take general Dynamics for example. Without a war or two they would'nt survive. As it is now they cant keep up with demand.
Throw in all the other companies that make subsystems; electronics, plastics, optics, metals etc. Now look at the trickle down effects like transportation, security, housing and catering. WAR IS MONEY.
@lukky0069 I think if u stop worrying about politics u wouldnt think anyone was making the world a dangerous place. youll live life better anyways, and just think about all the other countries that support America and do the same as America.
i think BIN LADIN if he wasn't blown-up in a cave, would have had reconstructive surgeries (extensivive alterations ). this many years after his last sighting he could even have resurfaced as another person on the world stage in someway. the CIA probably knows and even could of helped him assume anothers identity and exact look. (IE: that bond movie where guy face swaps)
probable-mayyyyybe
possible-i believe so
stanger things have happened when the CIA is/was involved
I am not defending bloody Taliban here. What I believe there is no difference in Taliban and America (same shit). America is the one who made Taliban against Ex USSR. When they were fighting against USSR they were freedom fighters and now they are fighting against USA why you start calling them terrorists. Why dont you change this hypocrite policy? If you do this everything should be all right.
@AUSTLAND1 but those freedomfighters stabbed us in the back, we brought them into this world and will take them right out, but that whole jihad religion keeps bringing in more freedomfighters thinkn that they'll get there 72 virgins if they kill Americans
Pakistan dont have nuclear weapons displayed on the roads or in open market that someone is going to come and take them, why dont you just stop this all bullshit by saying that our nukes are not safe. Be honest with us and be honest with world, and please leave us alone, if you guys need petrol, gas and minerals from our region then why you dont do trade with us. Give us excess to your markets and get excess in our markets and just stop killing of innocent people on both side.
lol osama bin laden? a joke, you spend 800 billion to "defeat" a guy who was worth like 200 million at his prime? btw he died in 06, there is no point in being anywhere right now for the us.
haha stupid nerds/puzzies u guys need to get up and stop talkin. im only a 17 year old and im more than willin to kill for this country. The Goal for The U.S. is to become the greatest. and supposly we are. There is no exit plan. its the only way we are goin to "com up" = wage war.
yeah some men are wasted but look at the ones that are important and makin differences in the world, they dont care about us or their grand children because we're all gonna die soon. So y not live it up.
@UptWatcha, the question is, if we are not the greatest then who will be? Would we want some country like North Korea or Iran to be the greatest so they can press their ideologies on us? No we dont, thats why people came to America in the first place to be away from all of that crap. People dont realize that we actually are fighting for our freedom across the globe, so I agree with you. People need to study what happened after WW2 to fully understand whats going on in the world today.
America needs to start taxing the CHURCH's in America, plain and simple. if OUR christian ZEALOTS want to wage a religious war in the east, THEY CONTRIBUTE AND PAY FOR IT.
WTF is wrong here oh maybe the fact that WE TRIED THAT ALREADY REMEMBER? We gave osama bin laden and his regime guns to fight against theyr oppresive fucked up government then they turned on us blah blah why give one side guns money recources? simply put bad idea is BAD get your head out of your ass and look around guys this is fucked in multiple ways we got a private lawless army called black water killing shooting EVERYTHING! curuption everywhere gimme some heroin so i can deal with your BS!
Bernie has spent his life fighting for the little guy. He is one of the few honest guys in the Senate. People will point out hat he is a socialist. This is true, but if I had the chance to vote for him I would. I have followed his career for many years and the guy is on the level.
We should just withdrawl now ... Timelines are not possible from a military strategy perspective because any time line must be based on objectives being met and nobody can ever say for sure with confidence how long it will take to meet the prescribed objectives to successfully disengage from the battlefield. The enemy can then dig in or melt away into the population and wait, giving the appearance that they no longer are a viable threat and giving the appearance that we met our objectives.
9/11 should have been treated as a crime, we had the worlds intelligence system on our side and I believe that Osama would be dead or in prison if we had gone that route instead of putting troops on the ground and Bush/Cheney should be prosecuted for treason for lying us into the war in Iraq and vetting a CIA agent but as he says the future historians will rank him, but for me they are snakes wouldn't go an fight in their own war but jump to put troops on the ground for nothing. Cowards
The rednecks and white trash, aka republican base, should pay for the Afghan war through a tax on domestic beer and all merchandise related to NASCAR, golf, Harley-Davidson, Pontiac, guns, country music, christianity, the NFL, Fox, ribbon magnets, U.S. flags, the word 'hero', hatred of foreigners, the uptight white guy gesture of sticking one's thumb up like 'The Fonz' when in agreement...and of course, anything sold at Walmart.
@praizjesus Oh hey guess what your a moron listen to you i bet your a 13 year old boy spreading hate and ignorance not to mention stupidity becuase you dont agree with a certain groups life style.......im not saying i think they live the right way but you ARE in the wrong listen to your shit THEY SHOULD PAY TAXES FOR YOUR WAR OBAMA ISNT STOPPING IT NO ONE IS NO ONE CARES GUESS WHAT WAR= PROFIT BLACK WATER MERCS ARE THERE CUZ OF PROFIT ITS OIL RECOURCES ITS PROFITEERING. and we have moronic
@praizjesus infectious human filth like you running around spreading your toxic opinons in everyones ears only the other dumbfucks who should be ethnicly cleansed not out of hate and disdain for you but MERCY not for you of course for the rest of the human race your trash with a big mouth kid there i put it simple so you can understand it how about go suck some dick earn some cash and pay the war tax yourself instead of saying rednecks should be taxed on all there shit. go die stereo typical
@praizjesus scum bag hate monger is all your kind is and yeah im insulting you just incase you didnt notice degenrate you should be sterilized so as to not reproduce and create more fuck ups go die in a hole or the gutter you call home!
@praizjesus you sound like a white hating racist black,inferiority complex for this kid bigtime,go get some help because this condition will do nothing for your self esteem either,i almost feel pity for you,your a sad ass
Well I think Al Qaeda is laying dormant in areas that the US can't go. Waiting for the right time to strike when the US lowers the numbers of the troops. Like I saw in another video. An Al Qaeda member said they got the numbers we got the time. In other words they got all the time in the world. It is a waiting game.
Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if people learned from Vietnam and brought the troops home before massive social and economic instability set in....wait...nevermind.
invading Afghanistan was the height of American arrogance. All you had to do was look at the Soviet and British experience to know that you can't occupy this country and achieve anything.
No wonder North Korea is doing whatever it wants, who is going to worry about a nation of fools.
We "now" know that Afghanistan is producing huge amounts of opium poppies? It was the US troops under the direction of Rumsfeld that made them tear up the food fields and replace them with poppies. The Taliban actually made the Afghanies plow under poppies and plant food, but not for humanitarian reasons. They did it to make the stores of poppy derivatives on hand worth more by creating a worldwide shortage of morphine and heroin. Quagmire is an understatement.
we've lost more than 800 troops. however its still ridiculously low casuality wise. We lost more men at Normandy than at in the entirety of the war. However it does bleed our resources. we need to cut a deal with the moderate taliban and establish an acceptable muslim dictatorship there while pursuing Al Queda ruthlessly world wide. We'll give the war another 2-4 years before we throw in the towel, hopefully we end it well.
If you are referring to military personnel, don't cry about that. Its a volunteer force, nobody forced them to go to Afghanistan. I did my 10 years without crying, other people can too.
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I want US troops back home not because of your reasoning, but because I want to see those goatf***kers kill eachother to oblivion. Sanders is a dimwitted commie as all Europeans are.
I'll tell you why we're there. NATURAL GAS AND OIL PIPELINES! YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT. BECHTEL CORPORATION BUILT IT IN 2003-2006. (They did bury it.) This war is for banks and corporations. The terrorist are the same people who use PSYCOPS on ALL of us. (CIA)
VIETNAM? I WONDER ABOUT THE HUGE OIL RESERVE UNDER THE MECHONG DELTA? Was that one of the reasons?
Afghanistan is our new Vietnam. The Banks, Corporations and CFR...Love it.
@HeymanUSS Why keep it out? It was the Gulf of Tonkin by the CIA or the burning of his embassy by Hitler or as they put it "a new pearl harbor" all over again. 9-11 was the catalyst for this bull shit so called war and it needs to be recognized for what it is. we need to leave EVERY occupied country that doesn't stand up and beg us to be there through a vote by the people of that country.
the real war is happening against our constitution and its happening right here at home.
Another good question to ask is: McChrystal wants 40,000 more troops as of NOW. Is that going to be enough, or will we need 40,000 more troops later on? WHEN will troop levels be enough? If ever. Let's face it: Bush and his neo-cons completely destroyed ANY kind of chances we may have had in Afghanistan. We need to fight terrorism, but a failed, foolish policy is NOT the answer!
Hello there Senator, Greetings from Europe. It`s good to be able to talk, and regarding the issue of Afghanistan.... the US apparently invaded as a counter to the attack of September 11. However, since then most of the wqorld has examined the facts, and it is obvious that 9/11 was not executed by anyone from Afghanistan. In fact many of your compatriots, architects, engineers, and former military personnel all state the obvious... "9/11 was a false flag attack.". Your call.
thanks for the vid senator....you are one of the few senators that make sense,,,,also one of the few that cares to raise the debate at least to the point of getting people to THINK
first of all ALQEDA is boggy beast that r forcefully implanted in our head by these political leader for their own political game, only poor pplz of USA and afghanistan r paying for their luxries soft bed with their blood and lives,
iraq was invaded on pretax of WMD which was bg lies and how many american pay with their lives and blood.
keep aside iraqi civilan for while which is 1.1 million r infants who don`t even know if they r from usa or iraq but die,,,
What Logic: No sugar coating here: So I guess it was ok, that the Nazi Soldiers killed a lot of innocent people.... 'cause Hitler ordered it? Is that your logic? So, using such logic, if Bush had've ordered our Soldiers to kill all first born here in America... if that were the order... you would oblige?
Ok calm down kids the man makes sense. Go study. There are 300 million people in this country and they cant all be brainless .Study study study. think of the Constitutional Convention in a filthy hot Philadelphia coming in on horses. I love the concept of the Founding Fathers . we need to revive it
Bernie Sanders is great, but I don't think the little video clips that illustrate what he is discussiing are very useful. They appear to be iconic stock clips and don't really add anything to what he is saying.
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hahaha, yeah, I should be really scared, since office buildings are falling over left and right all over the place. Hmm, 100,000's of office buildings all over the country, NONE are falling down...
Well, lets imagine not continuing a war in a Afghan, and a pilgrimage occurs of insurgents fighting their war here on US soil. Mr. Sanders forgot about 9/11. Americans are quick to forget. Its a real war and needs to be fought in the Middle East, not here in America.
OHHHH brother... aren't you tired of spewing out that re-gurg-i-tat-ed pundit rhetoric? Haven't you figured out BY NOW; that "kill 'em over there so we don't have to fight 'em here" is propaganda ??? WAKE UP!! Are you really that naive to think there your "pilgrimage" would be possible?
Let me make it simple for you; imagine the shoe on the other foot: if Chinese tanks were rolling down our streets and the Chinese military were kicking in our doors, would you call us retaliating Terrorism?
Well, yeah because that Pilgrimage has already occured here on US soil. So I am woken up. And your point with China is that they havent produced terrorist acting on other countries, so that ideology is of no concern at this point.
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Its actually the left that does that more than the right. U can listen to the self-admitted socialist if u want i dont care. That just shows alot about u. America is not a socialist nation, it is a free nation. A nation founded on the principles of freedom and opportunity. Thats what has made us such the great nation we are today. Socialism defies all those principles and we have NO ROOM for socialist politicians in our government. And i wasnt name calling, he is an admitted socialist.
Do you REALLY think this is a FREE nation... really? Give me some examples of what's really FREE here... you know, what really exemplifies that old cliche Land of the Free that differs us from any other country. Truly, there are MANY other countries that truly are free and not of some abstract freedom.
Remember, if you have to pay for any so called "freedom," well, that's no freedom at all and which actually contradicts being free.
what makes us great? the fact that we kill more foriegn nationals than any other country? the fact that we weigh more and watch more TV than anyone else?
The fact that we have the highest violent crime of the developed world? the fact that we have the highest prison population on the planet?
No, maybe it's that we consume close to half the world's anti-depressants.
We have created more wealth and have advanced more in technology than any other nation in the history of the world in the last 100 years all thanks to the free-market capitalist system. People come from all over to America so they can live a free life and not in oppression. They come here because theyll have the opportunity to create there own wealth and better themselves and there families. We have also liberated more ppl than any other nation in the last century so do your homework buddy.
Actually if u read your history, youll see my comment isnt so blind. And if u think America is so bad then why dont go live in Iran or Afghanistan for a year and then tell me America is bad. I dont have time to argue with your anti-American views, your obviously misguided.
I love this country even if it's filled with ignorant fools like you. Your comments show the same blind allegiance to the republican party that idiots have for Jesus. Rather than embrace logic and criticize those who wrongfully abuse their power, you call me anti-American. I am NOT anti-American for calling out the fucks who are culpable in undermining our freedoms and ruining this great nation. STOP regurgitating the Neo-conservative bullshit. Politicians no longer work for the people. Wake up.
I dont have an allegiance to the Republican Party. I dont have an allegiance to any party for that matter. Im an independent conservative. I stopped voting Republican after Bush and will never vote Democrat b/c there nothing but a bunch of socialists. U said my comment was blind and that i was wrong. How? America HASNT achieved more than any other country in the last century? We ARENT the worlds greatest super power? We HAVENT liberated more ppl than any other country in the last century?
Sounds bad, I know; but did it ever occur to you that the only way you'll ever get through to the racist corporate profiteers (and the Christian Al Qaeda who still ove Bush; as he let them go 'On Crusade' in 'The Holy Land') - and convince them to want to get us out of the mess; would be to appeal to their negative, money-driven motivations?
I have decided the root of 99.6% of our problems lies in our nation's mass ignorance. I encourage EVERYONE with half a brain and three quarters of a heart to become a teacher!
THAT is how you serve the USA today.
I like to fight fire with water.
Teaching people about the folly of materialism is actually really easy- most people already understand how self-defeating consumerism is subconsciously- they just need a little help bringing that self-knowledge to the surface.
We saved Europe from Germany twice, we saved South Korea from communist North Korea, we defeated the evil communist Soviet Union (without killing anybody i might add), we saved Kuwaitis from the evil dictator Saddam Hussein, we liberated Iraq from Saddam Hussein. Yes, we have killed many people, but it was all for good. We didnt try to take over all kind of countries & establish a world empire & commit genocide on our own ppl. We did it to defend good nations who couldnt defend themselves.
Yep- typical. If you complain about America, they tell you to go to the WORST places in the world- places, ironically, destroyed BY AMERICA!!! (LOL), and compare the two.
They never say go to the south of france or Norway. or spend a few years on Toronto or Vancouver.
These xenophobic, provincial nitwits haven't left the country and don't understand the class war that rages amidst their feigned, empty patriotism.
Since Ronald Reagan became President, the Republicans have been in power for 20 of the 29 years. Since then, the standards of living in America have been going down, 21 million jobs have been shipped overseas and the economy of the US is a pure fictitious paper shuffling economy based on fraud. The only manufacturing left is done by the military industrial complex. The US has turned into a fascist stateand the Constitution has been thrashed. Wake up college kid!
I am not a Republican so i am not defending them at all, but your facts are wrong. Our GDP was $91.2 billion in 1930 and increased $2.69 trillion in 50 years all the way up to 1980. Since 1980, our GDP has increased by $11.28 trillion in almost 30 years. Thats an increase of seven times in just 29 years when in the previous 50 years it wasnt even close to that. Reagan's policies did work
And i do agree with u that all of our politicians have been ignoring our Constitution for a long time now.
Yes America HAS developed more than other countries. We have developed more cancer, more obese diabetics, more criminals, more illiterate high school graduates.... let's not forget we developed more kick ass soldiers and better weapons than any other country. That's a big plus.
Imagine guys like this idiot Senator Sanders in office! You have to be kidding me. Is this the best we can send to Washington? This guy is a typical whining liberal who never seen a terrorist he didn't like. Whomever voted for this guy needs their heads examined! He is an embarrassment to his state and this country! Throw the bum out of office! BTW take that Nobel Prize winning man-child unqualified president with him!
this is the problem with liberalism. they take concepts, ideas, groups, or people they know little or nothing about, hijack it, then apply the meaning to opponents and enemies.
to so casually refer to the "right wing" as the taliban is truly disgusting. i guess these r the same people who dismiss every criticism of obama as racism.
ur a fucking idiot, if any motherfucker came to my fucking state/country in your case TAYXUS(texas) and wanted bush for his crime and lies. I would fight that motherfucker who blows my whole fucking country. And not to mention if anyone close to me was killed what would you do?
To add onto this bullshit taleban was greeted as hero in the 80s for fighting russia and guess who radicalized them in pakistan? CIA
there you fucking fuckface. I know nothing went through your head so go suck some dick.
Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton were on the commission. Your conspiracy is that you believe you know more about what happened on 9/11 than they do.I suggest you read their book smart guy. Its got big words though so I can translate if you need help. I didnt say 9/11 was an inside job which would be a conspiracy theory. I said it is an unsolved crime which is fact.
Bin Ladin has already admited to it on tape in 2001. case closed. Who cares what left wing nut jobs think. Bin Ladin started it and we have lots of work to do to finish it. Keeping hiding under your table sissy boy!
lol we stopped actively searching for bin laden in 2006. This conversation isn't going anyplace because when I bring fact you bring curcumstantial evidence of bin laden writing with his right hands and wearing jewlery. Go join the armed forces if you think we are saving the world in afghanistan.What are you waiting for tough guy chickenhawk. The "left wing nut jobs" opinions must be pretty important for you to come on here and talk shit. Those darm edumacated librals wit der books n stuff.later
What facts did you bring? You brought opinions. I told you the only fact that Bin Ladin has already admitted to 9/11 in 2001. What kind or moron cannot accept that? We know the 20 hijackers and we have traced their wherabouts including obviois ties with AlQueda. This is an open and shut case my boy. It's just you are too much of a sissy and think we should throw a wrench in it so we can do nothing but run and hide! What a coward you are!!!!
u replying to singledallsasguy? i agree with u, but i hate to cut and run after we have been there so long, the people have come to reley on us... it's sad situation all the way around. i know we can't be big brother to the whole world, but some of the 3rd world leaders do need removing from there positions, ya know? sad thing here is america convolutes everything into a money making scheme, maybe we ought to be ponzi america, instead of the "u s of america."
wrong. we dont need to be there. You can't win against insurgency and we should have learned that when we won the revolutionary war. Occupations never last and Afghanistan will always excersize it's soverighnity regardless of how many troops we send or bombs we drop. Every person we kill recruits 20 more people.
dlucas90 Statement: Indeed! Amazing how simple logic can counter the typical ignorance running rampant in our country!
Kind of like the GOD/Evolution debate: Show a? "believer" metamorphism - they would STILL deny
evolution!
Sanders logic; just goes to show you how we devalue other peoples lives when compared to our own. Not a reference of the hordes of innocent people our warmongering has caused. And the negative responses to come from this post itself will further validate my point!
With $700 GDP/capita and 44.5% of the Country in the age of 1-14, we better not make the same dumb mistake of 85-87. A 20 Million/year spent on education and services in those days most likely saved us from 9/11 attacks as well as a stable Afganistan now. I hope "The Exit Strategy" is much more aware of this fact, unlike the past one, that we are not up for another terorist open ground.
Needing commission to tell you poor, young, stupid, religious, drug money and war lords = trouble is exactly where the problem is. Use your head for a change.
We don't need government's commission to tell us what we should think is my point. Do your own research and draw your own conclusions instead of receiving pre-packaged opinion. Regardless of commission's report, lack of funds to Afgans after 85 had a major role in 9/11 is just common sense and commission report is irrelevant is my point. No jobs, no education, no future, young, stupid, religion conditions of Afgan youth are all equal to trouble
I dont think we need a commission to tell us what we should think either but I do think we should have public trials so that everyone can understand the same facts. Our pullout of afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11. NOTHING to do with 9/11.
'lack of funds" is used in my comments and I do not see any reference to 'pulling out'. We were never "pulled in" during that time to pull out, it was just small intel group anyhow. Issue is again funds for education, government services etc. Expectation here is very much same that military presence has little to achieve but we simply cannot cut the funds because the military is out similar to 85-87 which in my opinion was a cause behind 9/11 making Afghanistan a heaven for camps.
If it were true that 19 men armed with $10 worth of box-cutters was able to bring a multi-trillion dollar American defense system to it knees then we need to stop spending so much money on the military industrial complex. Obviously we are wasting our money. Arm the American soldiers with box-cutters and maybe it won't take over eight years to secure a third world nation's army.
Hahaha, I love to use the governments own logic against them.
Thank you Senator Sanders for having the ability to think and respond without corporate influence. I hope that we have an open discussion in congress about our actions in Afghanistan---and I strongly support you in being one of the Senators to have imput. We really "need" to remove ourselves from this war! Vietnam all over again!
The US needs to get out of other people's countries...Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Japan, Germany, South Korea, etc. What a waste of lives and taxpayer money.
well your pretty stuck. you can either bite the bullet and send more troops and concentrate on rebuilding Afg and its security and US image or you can make other people do it for you and piss everyone off by killing people with unmanned drones
Red fatcats or Blue fatcats, they're still fatcats. They have more in common with each other than they do with us. Looking at the majority, esp Pelosi and Reed, I stand by my statement.
We thought Bush was bad, but boy were we punked by those catchy slogans and campaign promises - none of which we will see happen. When Obama kept the same players in DoD I knew things were not going to change. Afghanistan = big profits for the have-more contractors; CIA wants to keep/protect their corrupt yes-man; protection for the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Oil Pipeline; Staging area for Iran about which Obama is playing the propaganda game that Bush used to invade Iraq.
MORON: Anyone that doesn't have forethought or insight to see the leaves on the trees instead of what politicians and TV pundits tell us. Can any of you War supporters 'put the shoe on the other foot?' Taliban Smaliban, Al Qaeda, Al Smaeda.. all BS buzz words used for the ignorant! At this point, I wonder if Osama Bin Laden is a real person or just a political concept. Remember; we supported the Taliban back in the 80's... would any of you fault the Russians for supporting the Taliban now?
They had to do something to help his flagging numbers. The honeymoon is over and the majority see him for the puppet he is. After all, we can't have the president of the world being disrespected, now can we?
The goal of the war is a state of continuous high profits for defense contractors. Defense contractors want a continuous state of war as the status-quo. If we had real campaign finance reform and the only voices that mattered are voters, then I a much less violent and more permanent solution to Afghanistan would be found sooner rather than later. Our present situation has some elected public officials representing the wishes of big industry over the voters who elected them. This has to stop.
Does anyone remember what happened to the Soviet Union when they were fighting in Afganistan in the 1980s? How come none of our politicians seem to remember the result of that conflict?
Fucking politicians. Even Sanders, probably the most radical American politician since Eugene Debbs, can't come out and tell the unfiltered truth about the war. Look at the statistics he gives: 800 American troops dead, and a few billion dollars wasted, Did he forget to mention the tens of thousands, or quite possibly hundreds of thousands of dead Afghanis? Why didn't he mention the drone attacks, with their 3:1 civilian:militant death ratio?
I voted for Obama, but he said during the campaign that our focus should be AF. No surprises here.
Like health care. Hillary's plan was much better. Obama is fulfilling his campaign promises as stated in his run to the WH. I am not surprised nor am I that happy but I still think he was the best candidate in the field.
Obama knows it's a pointless war that will go on for as long as he wants it to. He has the troops in Afghanistan just to keep the military lobby off his back, better be there than bombing Iran & starting another cold war with Russia like McCain wanted
How about allocating the money used for war in order to get Americans HEALTHY enough to fight terrorism, look at the bright side warlords more HEALTHY Americans more troops you can send all over the world (as always)! Healthcare!
It's sad that there are so many idiots who continue to believe in this 9/11 "truther" insanity. If only they would devote their energies to more positive efforts. But, there's no known cure for idiocy, so I suppose we just have to ignore these morons.
It doesn't matter what country the U.S. invades, the occupants of that country are not going to like it. I wouldn't like it if the U.S. came up here and started shooting people and trying to justify that it was a "matter of national security" Seriously people, America has been constantly at war with someone ever since it came into existance.
GET OUT OF AFHGANISTAN
beta0blaster 11 months ago
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America leadership is too timid to prosecute this war with the level of brutality required. Image if today's leaders had to fight WW II ... the surviving Americans would be speaking German today.
Nearly a decade after 9/11, Al Qaeda remains! This fact speaks volumes of the leadership in America!
browneyes4 11 months ago
IRAQ OIL WAR IS BASED ON A PACK OF GOP LIES !!!
k9kmc 1 year ago
The taliban want us out, the american people want us out, the afghan people want us out, and the world wants us out. So lets do that, get all of our infantry troops out Afghanistan, every single troop.
fdoca 1 year ago
Following may be a few reasons, why US actively initiate & promote wars, violence, conflicts and chaos across the globe, away from its main land. This is a synopsis of an article I read in the net
1. Wars create direct consumption for US defense/aerospace industry. Defense/Aerospace industry is the back bone of US technological superiority & have monopoly.
2. Each war is followed by construction work, which is mostly done by US firms.
bobbyhussain78 1 year ago
No one is clear, because the reality of what the US does in the world is completely hidden to us by the media. Have you ever read "Confessions Of An Economic Hit Man" or "Secret History Of The American Empire". Why on Earth would anyone think Osama bin Laden is any more of a reason than WMD in Iraq. Our people are our country, and we allow out own people to be treated like garbage, not to mention how we treat people in other countries. I agree with Bernie, but how to prevail against evil?
justgivemethetruth 1 year ago
bush family give money to Nazis and 911 was inside job
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kornboy3 1 year ago
Im not defending anyone here but heres my view, The taliban want us out, the american people want us out, the afghan people want us out, and the world wants us out. So lets do that, get all of our infantry troops out Afghanistan, every single troop. If the taliban don't continue violence since they got there wish that were out then good its all peaceful, but if they continue their violence for any particualar reason then it will justify why were there. Anyone feel me?
m1grand70 1 year ago
@m1grand70 WAR is Money. defence contractors make more money. Take general Dynamics for example. Without a war or two they would'nt survive. As it is now they cant keep up with demand.
Throw in all the other companies that make subsystems; electronics, plastics, optics, metals etc. Now look at the trickle down effects like transportation, security, housing and catering. WAR IS MONEY.
buffitup1 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
stop Iraq and Afghanistan occupations
RIP more than 1300 000 Iraqi civilians
RIP more than 4000 USA troops
please search in google
"Study Claims Iraq's 'Excess' Death Toll Has Reached 655,000"
911insidejob81 1 year ago
America is making OUR world a more dangerous place.
lukky0069 1 year ago 2
@lukky0069 I think if u stop worrying about politics u wouldnt think anyone was making the world a dangerous place. youll live life better anyways, and just think about all the other countries that support America and do the same as America.
Punkshooter112 1 year ago
i think BIN LADIN if he wasn't blown-up in a cave, would have had reconstructive surgeries (extensivive alterations ). this many years after his last sighting he could even have resurfaced as another person on the world stage in someway. the CIA probably knows and even could of helped him assume anothers identity and exact look. (IE: that bond movie where guy face swaps)
probable-mayyyyybe
possible-i believe so
stanger things have happened when the CIA is/was involved
333BozskiPA 1 year ago
@variablast You miss the point, there is no difference really. Live in a delusional state if you want.
DrBones666 1 year ago
type "Global Jihad (Rasulullah Nasheed)" in youtube. amazing
r9i9a9p2 1 year ago
I am not defending bloody Taliban here. What I believe there is no difference in Taliban and America (same shit). America is the one who made Taliban against Ex USSR. When they were fighting against USSR they were freedom fighters and now they are fighting against USA why you start calling them terrorists. Why dont you change this hypocrite policy? If you do this everything should be all right.
AUSTLAND1 1 year ago 5
@AUSTLAND1 but those freedomfighters stabbed us in the back, we brought them into this world and will take them right out, but that whole jihad religion keeps bringing in more freedomfighters thinkn that they'll get there 72 virgins if they kill Americans
Navaj0infidel 1 year ago
@Navaj0infidel Why did they start stabbing in the back? Why friends turned in to enemies?
innocentvirus 1 year ago
@innocentvirus 9/11, killings at embassies, cruel punishment to their own people, etc....
Navaj0infidel 1 year ago
@AUSTLAND1 FINALLY, SOMEONE WITH A MEMORY LONGER THAN THE LAST CNN SOUNDBITE.
buffitup1 1 year ago
Pakistan dont have nuclear weapons displayed on the roads or in open market that someone is going to come and take them, why dont you just stop this all bullshit by saying that our nukes are not safe. Be honest with us and be honest with world, and please leave us alone, if you guys need petrol, gas and minerals from our region then why you dont do trade with us. Give us excess to your markets and get excess in our markets and just stop killing of innocent people on both side.
AUSTLAND1 1 year ago 6
lol osama bin laden? a joke, you spend 800 billion to "defeat" a guy who was worth like 200 million at his prime? btw he died in 06, there is no point in being anywhere right now for the us.
Has1b 1 year ago
vive les talibon
hellboy6876 1 year ago
haha stupid nerds/puzzies u guys need to get up and stop talkin. im only a 17 year old and im more than willin to kill for this country. The Goal for The U.S. is to become the greatest. and supposly we are. There is no exit plan. its the only way we are goin to "com up" = wage war.
yeah some men are wasted but look at the ones that are important and makin differences in the world, they dont care about us or their grand children because we're all gonna die soon. So y not live it up.
UptWatcha 1 year ago
@UptWatcha, the question is, if we are not the greatest then who will be? Would we want some country like North Korea or Iran to be the greatest so they can press their ideologies on us? No we dont, thats why people came to America in the first place to be away from all of that crap. People dont realize that we actually are fighting for our freedom across the globe, so I agree with you. People need to study what happened after WW2 to fully understand whats going on in the world today.
KrautAttack78 1 year ago
America needs to start taxing the CHURCH's in America, plain and simple. if OUR christian ZEALOTS want to wage a religious war in the east, THEY CONTRIBUTE AND PAY FOR IT.
umeboshiatama 1 year ago 4
WTF is wrong here oh maybe the fact that WE TRIED THAT ALREADY REMEMBER? We gave osama bin laden and his regime guns to fight against theyr oppresive fucked up government then they turned on us blah blah why give one side guns money recources? simply put bad idea is BAD get your head out of your ass and look around guys this is fucked in multiple ways we got a private lawless army called black water killing shooting EVERYTHING! curuption everywhere gimme some heroin so i can deal with your BS!
glen12343 2 years ago
Bernie has spent his life fighting for the little guy. He is one of the few honest guys in the Senate. People will point out hat he is a socialist. This is true, but if I had the chance to vote for him I would. I have followed his career for many years and the guy is on the level.
oldeafcoot 2 years ago 2
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DurriDurrani 2 years ago
We should just withdrawl now ... Timelines are not possible from a military strategy perspective because any time line must be based on objectives being met and nobody can ever say for sure with confidence how long it will take to meet the prescribed objectives to successfully disengage from the battlefield. The enemy can then dig in or melt away into the population and wait, giving the appearance that they no longer are a viable threat and giving the appearance that we met our objectives.
wilburhog 2 years ago 4
9/11 should have been treated as a crime, we had the worlds intelligence system on our side and I believe that Osama would be dead or in prison if we had gone that route instead of putting troops on the ground and Bush/Cheney should be prosecuted for treason for lying us into the war in Iraq and vetting a CIA agent but as he says the future historians will rank him, but for me they are snakes wouldn't go an fight in their own war but jump to put troops on the ground for nothing. Cowards
knowhelpnow 2 years ago 3
The rednecks and white trash, aka republican base, should pay for the Afghan war through a tax on domestic beer and all merchandise related to NASCAR, golf, Harley-Davidson, Pontiac, guns, country music, christianity, the NFL, Fox, ribbon magnets, U.S. flags, the word 'hero', hatred of foreigners, the uptight white guy gesture of sticking one's thumb up like 'The Fonz' when in agreement...and of course, anything sold at Walmart.
praizjesus 2 years ago
@praizjesus Oh hey guess what your a moron listen to you i bet your a 13 year old boy spreading hate and ignorance not to mention stupidity becuase you dont agree with a certain groups life style.......im not saying i think they live the right way but you ARE in the wrong listen to your shit THEY SHOULD PAY TAXES FOR YOUR WAR OBAMA ISNT STOPPING IT NO ONE IS NO ONE CARES GUESS WHAT WAR= PROFIT BLACK WATER MERCS ARE THERE CUZ OF PROFIT ITS OIL RECOURCES ITS PROFITEERING. and we have moronic
glen12343 2 years ago
@praizjesus infectious human filth like you running around spreading your toxic opinons in everyones ears only the other dumbfucks who should be ethnicly cleansed not out of hate and disdain for you but MERCY not for you of course for the rest of the human race your trash with a big mouth kid there i put it simple so you can understand it how about go suck some dick earn some cash and pay the war tax yourself instead of saying rednecks should be taxed on all there shit. go die stereo typical
glen12343 2 years ago 3
@praizjesus scum bag hate monger is all your kind is and yeah im insulting you just incase you didnt notice degenrate you should be sterilized so as to not reproduce and create more fuck ups go die in a hole or the gutter you call home!
glen12343 2 years ago 2
@praizjesus you sound like a white hating racist black,inferiority complex for this kid bigtime,go get some help because this condition will do nothing for your self esteem either,i almost feel pity for you,your a sad ass
73mandala 2 years ago
Well I think Al Qaeda is laying dormant in areas that the US can't go. Waiting for the right time to strike when the US lowers the numbers of the troops. Like I saw in another video. An Al Qaeda member said they got the numbers we got the time. In other words they got all the time in the world. It is a waiting game.
RyGuy731 2 years ago
Wow,i'm impressed with Sanders! He almost doesn't sound like just another run of the mill,sold out,corrupt assed politicians
rokitjon 2 years ago
Wouldn't it be fucking awesome if people learned from Vietnam and brought the troops home before massive social and economic instability set in....wait...nevermind.
lanceshitheadnada 2 years ago
invading Afghanistan was the height of American arrogance. All you had to do was look at the Soviet and British experience to know that you can't occupy this country and achieve anything.
No wonder North Korea is doing whatever it wants, who is going to worry about a nation of fools.
qazwas2001 2 years ago 3
IT TAKES MORE THAN 9 YEARS TO PUMP THE OIL!! more like decades of WAR...
FUCK USA..and stupid americans for brining war to the world..
Fuckin nazi state
rajobabu 2 years ago
theres no oil in afganistan stupid
siaisjack 2 years ago
Thank you Senator Sanders. Isn't it time for some true isolationism and putting our treasure to work here at home?
pabobfin 2 years ago 2
This company is hypocritical and exploitative
TRUTHHURTSMEDIA 2 years ago
We "now" know that Afghanistan is producing huge amounts of opium poppies? It was the US troops under the direction of Rumsfeld that made them tear up the food fields and replace them with poppies. The Taliban actually made the Afghanies plow under poppies and plant food, but not for humanitarian reasons. They did it to make the stores of poppy derivatives on hand worth more by creating a worldwide shortage of morphine and heroin. Quagmire is an understatement.
MacManiac 2 years ago
They even made a Bond movie about it in the late eighties. :D
WecksyRex 2 years ago
Which one?
MacManiac 2 years ago
we've lost more than 800 troops. however its still ridiculously low casuality wise. We lost more men at Normandy than at in the entirety of the war. However it does bleed our resources. we need to cut a deal with the moderate taliban and establish an acceptable muslim dictatorship there while pursuing Al Queda ruthlessly world wide. We'll give the war another 2-4 years before we throw in the towel, hopefully we end it well.
Thespartan18 2 years ago
I guess you don't have any relatives fighting in Afghanistan!
And I guess you don't care about the TWO BILLION DOLLARS we've already spent while we at home are losing our homes and jobs.
MauiDems 2 years ago
If you are referring to military personnel, don't cry about that. Its a volunteer force, nobody forced them to go to Afghanistan. I did my 10 years without crying, other people can too.
Warpath2198 2 years ago
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I want US troops back home not because of your reasoning, but because I want to see those goatf***kers kill eachother to oblivion. Sanders is a dimwitted commie as all Europeans are.
Diimaa 2 years ago
watch?v=jbj89udjDKQ
youboob39 2 years ago
What abt this video inside Afghanistan... watch?v=qOPDUHcAXOc
youboob39 2 years ago
I'll tell you why we're there. NATURAL GAS AND OIL PIPELINES! YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT. BECHTEL CORPORATION BUILT IT IN 2003-2006. (They did bury it.) This war is for banks and corporations. The terrorist are the same people who use PSYCOPS on ALL of us. (CIA)
VIETNAM? I WONDER ABOUT THE HUGE OIL RESERVE UNDER THE MECHONG DELTA? Was that one of the reasons?
Afghanistan is our new Vietnam. The Banks, Corporations and CFR...Love it.
PLEASE KEEP 911 OUT OF THIS ASININE WAR!
HeymanUSS 2 years ago 12
I can't agree with you More on this issue.
Modern warfare is the welfare for the Rich and Powerful. They are the Lords of War.
TheMia168 2 years ago 16
@TheMia168 Thats how wars are fought for thousands of years.
lvdmonstarr 1 year ago
@TheMia168 Its like were living in the middle ages. Our governments and the banks are like Kings, knights, and vassals fighting over fief.
009jorge1 7 months ago
@HeymanUSS Why keep it out? It was the Gulf of Tonkin by the CIA or the burning of his embassy by Hitler or as they put it "a new pearl harbor" all over again. 9-11 was the catalyst for this bull shit so called war and it needs to be recognized for what it is. we need to leave EVERY occupied country that doesn't stand up and beg us to be there through a vote by the people of that country.
the real war is happening against our constitution and its happening right here at home.
squillyb7718 1 year ago
@HeymanUSS So like when we lost Vietnam we learned from that lesson and now we are using better plans out in Afghanistan
Punkshooter112 1 year ago
@HeymanUSS so youre saying the americans gobbled up the oil in the ocean near vietnam during that war?
walkertexasranger33 1 year ago
Another good question to ask is: McChrystal wants 40,000 more troops as of NOW. Is that going to be enough, or will we need 40,000 more troops later on? WHEN will troop levels be enough? If ever. Let's face it: Bush and his neo-cons completely destroyed ANY kind of chances we may have had in Afghanistan. We need to fight terrorism, but a failed, foolish policy is NOT the answer!
Paolo7219 2 years ago 2
my thought was that Afghanistan was the war against the taliban
killamenjarro 2 years ago
Hello there Senator, Greetings from Europe. It`s good to be able to talk, and regarding the issue of Afghanistan.... the US apparently invaded as a counter to the attack of September 11. However, since then most of the wqorld has examined the facts, and it is obvious that 9/11 was not executed by anyone from Afghanistan. In fact many of your compatriots, architects, engineers, and former military personnel all state the obvious... "9/11 was a false flag attack.". Your call.
landsker 2 years ago 2
thanks for the vid senator....you are one of the few senators that make sense,,,,also one of the few that cares to raise the debate at least to the point of getting people to THINK
anolmec 2 years ago 3
Woah there, hot heads!
I just got about fifteen replies to a mesage I wrote in response to some A-hole who said "I fucked a Superpower (blah, blah, blah)".
I called him out on it, as I'm a Veteran, a son of a Veteran, etc.; and when you 'fucking' this superpower - well, that's me and mine!
Now hear this: I'm NOT a NAZI - and I HANG George W Bush!
A branch of my part-jewish familly were KILLED by the NAZIs.
This device should've posted my comment as a 'reply' to the 'superpower fucker'.
JimRinX 2 years ago
sorry my english is not good.
first of all ALQEDA is boggy beast that r forcefully implanted in our head by these political leader for their own political game, only poor pplz of USA and afghanistan r paying for their luxries soft bed with their blood and lives,
iraq was invaded on pretax of WMD which was bg lies and how many american pay with their lives and blood.
keep aside iraqi civilan for while which is 1.1 million r infants who don`t even know if they r from usa or iraq but die,,,
zamakanoon 2 years ago
Al Qaeda and 'W' deserve each otther.
You - and your people, my good man, deserve neither.
Peace! God Willing!
JimRinX 2 years ago
i person fucked world 's super power
ow man i m laughing to dead
demon4757 2 years ago
Whoever you are - I was a Soldier; my Comrades are Soldiers.
We are obliged, by our Oaths, to obey - even if a Traitor like W steals our Gov..
If I weren't disabled I'd FUCK YOU - right in the ASS, Mother Fucker!
JimRinX 2 years ago
What Logic: No sugar coating here: So I guess it was ok, that the Nazi Soldiers killed a lot of innocent people.... 'cause Hitler ordered it? Is that your logic? So, using such logic, if Bush had've ordered our Soldiers to kill all first born here in America... if that were the order... you would oblige?
Probably would wouldn't you!
mark97213 2 years ago 2
Wow! How did you arive at that insulting conclusion? I was just replying to 'superpower fucker' - is that what YOU ARE, too?!?
And since i clearly stated that 'W' is a TRAITOR (who'd I'd gladly HANG), how did you arrive at the conclusion that I'd WANT to obey his orders?
Why do you think I want to hang him?
Soldiers HAVE TO follow orders - no matter who gives them, dumbass; that's the point.
If you don't like it - then FIGHT BUSH, npot your own Military!
JimRinX 2 years ago
1 person fuck world 's ( lol) super power
demon4757 2 years ago
Ok calm down kids the man makes sense. Go study. There are 300 million people in this country and they cant all be brainless .Study study study. think of the Constitutional Convention in a filthy hot Philadelphia coming in on horses. I love the concept of the Founding Fathers . we need to revive it
mclaire 12
mclaire12 2 years ago
I like this guy 8-9 same shit
It's all About getting ready for China
jsinkeywest 2 years ago
Bernie Sanders is great, but I don't think the little video clips that illustrate what he is discussiing are very useful. They appear to be iconic stock clips and don't really add anything to what he is saying.
lbarzin 2 years ago
911 the attack on the world trade center is an inside job... Dont die and kill for a lie!
DruidAnthony 2 years ago
hahaha, another conspiracy theaory believer.
damoninsky 2 years ago
Think that's funny check this out Damoninsky!
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DruidAnthony 2 years ago
hahaha, yeah, I should be really scared, since office buildings are falling over left and right all over the place. Hmm, 100,000's of office buildings all over the country, NONE are falling down...
Why are you trying to instill fear in everyone?
damoninsky 2 years ago
The truth is scary you got that right.
DruidAnthony 2 years ago
i say since our GREAT president is trying to get the fags in military send all of them over there and hope they dont break a nail LOL
nightstick4u 2 years ago
Our involvement in Afghanisatan is about Oil Pipelines Strategic Bases Opium (cash flow)
NOT Osama/Al Qaeda Taliban Democracy
If we start attacking PAKISTAN, that's ANOTHER war WE started.
waterflaws 2 years ago
bullshit- physics is an opinion.
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
and all opinions are equal, so physics is no better than brittany spears.
prove me wrong :)
tristramshandy3 2 years ago 2
HUH?
morelltechyahoocom 2 years ago
Well, lets imagine not continuing a war in a Afghan, and a pilgrimage occurs of insurgents fighting their war here on US soil. Mr. Sanders forgot about 9/11. Americans are quick to forget. Its a real war and needs to be fought in the Middle East, not here in America.
morelltechyahoocom 2 years ago
OHHHH brother... aren't you tired of spewing out that re-gurg-i-tat-ed pundit rhetoric? Haven't you figured out BY NOW; that "kill 'em over there so we don't have to fight 'em here" is propaganda ??? WAKE UP!! Are you really that naive to think there your "pilgrimage" would be possible?
Let me make it simple for you; imagine the shoe on the other foot: if Chinese tanks were rolling down our streets and the Chinese military were kicking in our doors, would you call us retaliating Terrorism?
mark97213 2 years ago
Well, yeah because that Pilgrimage has already occured here on US soil. So I am woken up. And your point with China is that they havent produced terrorist acting on other countries, so that ideology is of no concern at this point.
Are you one of those 9/11 was an inside job nut?
morelltechyahoocom 2 years ago
*Two planes knock down three buildings.
*Naturally aspirated kerosene fire weakens and even melts steel.
*A 757 makes a 18' hole in the Pentagon, wings, engines and all go through it.
*"The plane shot down over Pennsylvania" , as Rumsfeld once referred to it, entered the ground and vaporized.
Why would someone be a "nut job" to question the official story when the official story has so many illogical inconsistencies?
Is it "uncool" the think for yourself, or question the government?
dlucas90 2 years ago
singledallasguy is a gay
dafada32 2 years ago
who the hell listens to bernie sanders? hes a self admitted socialist!
CollegeLyfe23 2 years ago
How the righties love to call names- and how they LOATHE using specifics and facts to make an argument.
Pray tell, sweets, what does Mr. Sanders say that is factually inaccurate?
Who do you listen to, Limbaugh? Boehner? LOL.
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
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Its actually the left that does that more than the right. U can listen to the self-admitted socialist if u want i dont care. That just shows alot about u. America is not a socialist nation, it is a free nation. A nation founded on the principles of freedom and opportunity. Thats what has made us such the great nation we are today. Socialism defies all those principles and we have NO ROOM for socialist politicians in our government. And i wasnt name calling, he is an admitted socialist.
CollegeLyfe23 2 years ago
Do you REALLY think this is a FREE nation... really? Give me some examples of what's really FREE here... you know, what really exemplifies that old cliche Land of the Free that differs us from any other country. Truly, there are MANY other countries that truly are free and not of some abstract freedom.
Remember, if you have to pay for any so called "freedom," well, that's no freedom at all and which actually contradicts being free.
Give me something truly free: Free Speech?
mark97213 2 years ago
"The great nation we are today"
Really? we are a great nation?
what makes us great? the fact that we kill more foriegn nationals than any other country? the fact that we weigh more and watch more TV than anyone else?
The fact that we have the highest violent crime of the developed world? the fact that we have the highest prison population on the planet?
No, maybe it's that we consume close to half the world's anti-depressants.
What makes us a great nation?
I am confused!
Thanks.
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
We have created more wealth and have advanced more in technology than any other nation in the history of the world in the last 100 years all thanks to the free-market capitalist system. People come from all over to America so they can live a free life and not in oppression. They come here because theyll have the opportunity to create there own wealth and better themselves and there families. We have also liberated more ppl than any other nation in the last century so do your homework buddy.
CollegeLyfe23 2 years ago
What a blind ass comment. You are wrong.
Here is the truth: America is "Banana republic".
kaduisaui 2 years ago 2
Actually if u read your history, youll see my comment isnt so blind. And if u think America is so bad then why dont go live in Iran or Afghanistan for a year and then tell me America is bad. I dont have time to argue with your anti-American views, your obviously misguided.
CollegeLyfe23 2 years ago
I love this country even if it's filled with ignorant fools like you. Your comments show the same blind allegiance to the republican party that idiots have for Jesus. Rather than embrace logic and criticize those who wrongfully abuse their power, you call me anti-American. I am NOT anti-American for calling out the fucks who are culpable in undermining our freedoms and ruining this great nation. STOP regurgitating the Neo-conservative bullshit. Politicians no longer work for the people. Wake up.
kaduisaui 2 years ago 6
I dont have an allegiance to the Republican Party. I dont have an allegiance to any party for that matter. Im an independent conservative. I stopped voting Republican after Bush and will never vote Democrat b/c there nothing but a bunch of socialists. U said my comment was blind and that i was wrong. How? America HASNT achieved more than any other country in the last century? We ARENT the worlds greatest super power? We HAVENT liberated more ppl than any other country in the last century?
CollegeLyfe23 2 years ago
achieved more?
why are the achievements ONLY measured in dollars?
how corporate of you :)
try an experiment- try arguing America is the best society based on sociological stats.
Like prison population..oh wait, not a good choice, we have the highest prison population on earth in the land of the free (LOL).
What about violent crime rates? ooops, another mistake: we have the highest violent crime rate of the developed world.
Maybe physical health?
oops, another mistake. We are the fattest nation.
tristramshandy3 2 years ago 3
Sounds bad, I know; but did it ever occur to you that the only way you'll ever get through to the racist corporate profiteers (and the Christian Al Qaeda who still ove Bush; as he let them go 'On Crusade' in 'The Holy Land') - and convince them to want to get us out of the mess; would be to appeal to their negative, money-driven motivations?
Fight Fire with Fire - Greed with Greed, Baby!!!
JimRinX 2 years ago
I have decided the root of 99.6% of our problems lies in our nation's mass ignorance. I encourage EVERYONE with half a brain and three quarters of a heart to become a teacher!
THAT is how you serve the USA today.
I like to fight fire with water.
Teaching people about the folly of materialism is actually really easy- most people already understand how self-defeating consumerism is subconsciously- they just need a little help bringing that self-knowledge to the surface.
Viva Thoreau!
tristramshandy3 2 years ago 4
You must look at your statements and research where they come from.
Democrats are not socialists.
America has not achieved more than any other country.
Being the largest and most feared superpower while claiming first strike as a right is not the same as being the greatest.
Killing people does not liberate them.
U R A Douche
kaduisaui 2 years ago 4
We saved Europe from Germany twice, we saved South Korea from communist North Korea, we defeated the evil communist Soviet Union (without killing anybody i might add), we saved Kuwaitis from the evil dictator Saddam Hussein, we liberated Iraq from Saddam Hussein. Yes, we have killed many people, but it was all for good. We didnt try to take over all kind of countries & establish a world empire & commit genocide on our own ppl. We did it to defend good nations who couldnt defend themselves.
CollegeLyfe23 2 years ago
I know an Iraqi who was TORTURED by Saddam Hussein.
Would you like to explain to HIM your opinion?
I had to; after he found out that I was 'Anti-Iraqi Freedom'!!!
JimRinX 2 years ago
Yep- typical. If you complain about America, they tell you to go to the WORST places in the world- places, ironically, destroyed BY AMERICA!!! (LOL), and compare the two.
They never say go to the south of france or Norway. or spend a few years on Toronto or Vancouver.
These xenophobic, provincial nitwits haven't left the country and don't understand the class war that rages amidst their feigned, empty patriotism.
Growing up corporate :)
gotta love it
tristramshandy3 2 years ago 3
So all the other countries have not developed? Interesting.
1029blue 2 years ago
Im saying we have developed MORE than any other country. Stop trying to pick at conservatives at everything they say.
CollegeLyfe23 2 years ago
really?
so we are the happiest, most enlightened society on earth?
LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only somebody who hasn't traveled anywhere could believe that.
Son, do us ALL a favor and go travel the developed world. THEN come back and tell us how great we are :)
Viva Thoreau, Montaigne and Socrates!
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
Since Ronald Reagan became President, the Republicans have been in power for 20 of the 29 years. Since then, the standards of living in America have been going down, 21 million jobs have been shipped overseas and the economy of the US is a pure fictitious paper shuffling economy based on fraud. The only manufacturing left is done by the military industrial complex. The US has turned into a fascist stateand the Constitution has been thrashed. Wake up college kid!
marbou888 2 years ago 2
I am not a Republican so i am not defending them at all, but your facts are wrong. Our GDP was $91.2 billion in 1930 and increased $2.69 trillion in 50 years all the way up to 1980. Since 1980, our GDP has increased by $11.28 trillion in almost 30 years. Thats an increase of seven times in just 29 years when in the previous 50 years it wasnt even close to that. Reagan's policies did work
And i do agree with u that all of our politicians have been ignoring our Constitution for a long time now.
CollegeLyfe23 2 years ago
Yes America HAS developed more than other countries. We have developed more cancer, more obese diabetics, more criminals, more illiterate high school graduates.... let's not forget we developed more kick ass soldiers and better weapons than any other country. That's a big plus.
You posted another dumb statement.
kaduisaui 2 years ago
an interesting argument devoid of substantial specifics and generally the result of corporate brainwashing.
Don't YOU see that the converse argument, that America kind of sucks, is JUST as easily put forth, with perhaps even MORE facts?
you say we liberate people.
I say we kill them.
name a country that has killed more foreign nationals than the USA since WW2.
You seem to believe the wealth belongs to all of us- it doesn't- and it has consolidated disproportionately at the top.
Viva Mill!
tristramshandy3 2 years ago
Imagine guys like this idiot Senator Sanders in office! You have to be kidding me. Is this the best we can send to Washington? This guy is a typical whining liberal who never seen a terrorist he didn't like. Whomever voted for this guy needs their heads examined! He is an embarrassment to his state and this country! Throw the bum out of office! BTW take that Nobel Prize winning man-child unqualified president with him!
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
we have our own taliban here. They are called the right wing.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
this is the problem with liberalism. they take concepts, ideas, groups, or people they know little or nothing about, hijack it, then apply the meaning to opponents and enemies.
to so casually refer to the "right wing" as the taliban is truly disgusting. i guess these r the same people who dismiss every criticism of obama as racism.
ImNeilPatrickHarris 2 years ago
America has been in Afghanistan for 8 Years, the Soviets were there for 10 Years, so 2 more years to catch up them.
Wonder what is so valuable in Afghanistan that 2 Super Powers would spend nearly a Decade each trying to get it?
Couldn't have anything to do with the FACT that 93% of the WORLDS OPIUM comes from Afghanistan, could it?
SATANSbankers 2 years ago 2
How about we kill and mame as many Taliban and Al Queda idiots as possible? there, I defined the strategy!
So, now you want an exit strategy? How about the day after we kill and mame all of the Taliban and Al Queda?
There, that was hard!
This is why fruit cake politicians just need to worry about roads in their districts and let fighting up to real men!!
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
ur a fucking idiot, if any motherfucker came to my fucking state/country in your case TAYXUS(texas) and wanted bush for his crime and lies. I would fight that motherfucker who blows my whole fucking country. And not to mention if anyone close to me was killed what would you do?
To add onto this bullshit taleban was greeted as hero in the 80s for fighting russia and guess who radicalized them in pakistan? CIA
there you fucking fuckface. I know nothing went through your head so go suck some dick.
promonument 2 years ago 3
there is a reason why you are single. I think we have had enough advice from a texan for awhile.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
qualityrkc ..... What an intelligent comeback. Let me guess you graduated Harvard? Maybe Yale? Or was it Mc Donalds Hamburger University?
And I see you are also a conspiracy nut job to boot! What a surprise! haha
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
lol what conspiracy?
qualityrkc 2 years ago
That 9/11 is an unsolved crime! Give me a break. You are a complete idiot!!
yes, I will take fries with that.
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton were on the commission. Your conspiracy is that you believe you know more about what happened on 9/11 than they do.I suggest you read their book smart guy. Its got big words though so I can translate if you need help. I didnt say 9/11 was an inside job which would be a conspiracy theory. I said it is an unsolved crime which is fact.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
Bin Ladin has already admited to it on tape in 2001. case closed. Who cares what left wing nut jobs think. Bin Ladin started it and we have lots of work to do to finish it. Keeping hiding under your table sissy boy!
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
lol we stopped actively searching for bin laden in 2006. This conversation isn't going anyplace because when I bring fact you bring curcumstantial evidence of bin laden writing with his right hands and wearing jewlery. Go join the armed forces if you think we are saving the world in afghanistan.What are you waiting for tough guy chickenhawk. The "left wing nut jobs" opinions must be pretty important for you to come on here and talk shit. Those darm edumacated librals wit der books n stuff.later
qualityrkc 2 years ago
What facts did you bring? You brought opinions. I told you the only fact that Bin Ladin has already admitted to 9/11 in 2001. What kind or moron cannot accept that? We know the 20 hijackers and we have traced their wherabouts including obviois ties with AlQueda. This is an open and shut case my boy. It's just you are too much of a sissy and think we should throw a wrench in it so we can do nothing but run and hide! What a coward you are!!!!
aSingleDallasGuy 2 years ago
u replying to singledallsasguy? i agree with u, but i hate to cut and run after we have been there so long, the people have come to reley on us... it's sad situation all the way around. i know we can't be big brother to the whole world, but some of the 3rd world leaders do need removing from there positions, ya know? sad thing here is america convolutes everything into a money making scheme, maybe we ought to be ponzi america, instead of the "u s of america."
layers5252 2 years ago
wrong. we dont need to be there. You can't win against insurgency and we should have learned that when we won the revolutionary war. Occupations never last and Afghanistan will always excersize it's soverighnity regardless of how many troops we send or bombs we drop. Every person we kill recruits 20 more people.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
i graduated from stockton
qualityrkc 2 years ago
dlucas90 Statement: Indeed! Amazing how simple logic can counter the typical ignorance running rampant in our country!
Kind of like the GOD/Evolution debate: Show a? "believer" metamorphism - they would STILL deny
evolution!
Sanders logic; just goes to show you how we devalue other peoples lives when compared to our own. Not a reference of the hordes of innocent people our warmongering has caused. And the negative responses to come from this post itself will further validate my point!
mark97213 2 years ago
With $700 GDP/capita and 44.5% of the Country in the age of 1-14, we better not make the same dumb mistake of 85-87. A 20 Million/year spent on education and services in those days most likely saved us from 9/11 attacks as well as a stable Afganistan now. I hope "The Exit Strategy" is much more aware of this fact, unlike the past one, that we are not up for another terorist open ground.
J4cK4LL 2 years ago
9/11 is an unsolved crime. Members of the commission admit they still do not know exactly what happened leading up to and on 9/11
qualityrkc 2 years ago
Needing commission to tell you poor, young, stupid, religious, drug money and war lords = trouble is exactly where the problem is. Use your head for a change.
J4cK4LL 2 years ago
what? i dont understand your comment because your sentance structure is all messed up.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
We don't need government's commission to tell us what we should think is my point. Do your own research and draw your own conclusions instead of receiving pre-packaged opinion. Regardless of commission's report, lack of funds to Afgans after 85 had a major role in 9/11 is just common sense and commission report is irrelevant is my point. No jobs, no education, no future, young, stupid, religion conditions of Afgan youth are all equal to trouble
J4cK4LL 2 years ago
I dont think we need a commission to tell us what we should think either but I do think we should have public trials so that everyone can understand the same facts. Our pullout of afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11. NOTHING to do with 9/11.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
'lack of funds" is used in my comments and I do not see any reference to 'pulling out'. We were never "pulled in" during that time to pull out, it was just small intel group anyhow. Issue is again funds for education, government services etc. Expectation here is very much same that military presence has little to achieve but we simply cannot cut the funds because the military is out similar to 85-87 which in my opinion was a cause behind 9/11 making Afghanistan a heaven for camps.
J4cK4LL 2 years ago
I dunno. We would have to find out what happened on 9/11 first. There are so many mysteries.
qualityrkc 2 years ago
take US troops out of Puerto Rico!
EmeterioBetances 2 years ago
Great Video!! ♥ Bernie Sanders!!
TheWayISeeIt1982 2 years ago
If it were true that 19 men armed with $10 worth of box-cutters was able to bring a multi-trillion dollar American defense system to it knees then we need to stop spending so much money on the military industrial complex. Obviously we are wasting our money. Arm the American soldiers with box-cutters and maybe it won't take over eight years to secure a third world nation's army.
Hahaha, I love to use the governments own logic against them.
dlucas90 2 years ago
Wow...you hit the nail on the head
fxloop 2 years ago
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mark97213 2 years ago
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mark97213 2 years ago
Thank you Senator Sanders for having the ability to think and respond without corporate influence. I hope that we have an open discussion in congress about our actions in Afghanistan---and I strongly support you in being one of the Senators to have imput. We really "need" to remove ourselves from this war! Vietnam all over again!
Msdreamgoal 2 years ago
It looks like "the plan" is war without end, systematic destabilization of the middle east, and huge profits for military contractors.
urbanverificationist 2 years ago 3
LOVE Senator Bernie Sanders! His is truly a voice of reason and sanity, and we need more like him. THANK YOU Senator!
sophiegromit 2 years ago 2
The US needs to get out of other people's countries...Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Japan, Germany, South Korea, etc. What a waste of lives and taxpayer money.
czubspenx 2 years ago 4
well your pretty stuck. you can either bite the bullet and send more troops and concentrate on rebuilding Afg and its security and US image or you can make other people do it for you and piss everyone off by killing people with unmanned drones
staplerjm 2 years ago
opium...heroin...drug trade
bebop54 2 years ago 2
I am now registering 'unaffiliated' because both sides have embraced fundamentalism.
CiphersSon 2 years ago
WOT = WOD
Both are complete farces.
bushmustgo 2 years ago
Senator Sanders IS A KOOL-AID drinker. he believes that Osama Bin Laden blow-up the towers
dunhova 2 years ago
Osama Bin Laden didn't BLOW-UP the towers. IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB
dunhova 2 years ago
Red fatcats or Blue fatcats, they're still fatcats. They have more in common with each other than they do with us. Looking at the majority, esp Pelosi and Reed, I stand by my statement.
DrBones666 2 years ago
We thought Bush was bad, but boy were we punked by those catchy slogans and campaign promises - none of which we will see happen. When Obama kept the same players in DoD I knew things were not going to change. Afghanistan = big profits for the have-more contractors; CIA wants to keep/protect their corrupt yes-man; protection for the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Oil Pipeline; Staging area for Iran about which Obama is playing the propaganda game that Bush used to invade Iraq.
Budlizaard 2 years ago
Talking about gonna start talking.
The Democratic strategy.
Talk talk talk
TheDecidicator 2 years ago
MORON: Anyone that doesn't have forethought or insight to see the leaves on the trees instead of what politicians and TV pundits tell us. Can any of you War supporters 'put the shoe on the other foot?' Taliban Smaliban, Al Qaeda, Al Smaeda.. all BS buzz words used for the ignorant! At this point, I wonder if Osama Bin Laden is a real person or just a political concept. Remember; we supported the Taliban back in the 80's... would any of you fault the Russians for supporting the Taliban now?
mark97213 2 years ago 3
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Obama won the Nobel peace prize
v12345c 2 years ago
They had to do something to help his flagging numbers. The honeymoon is over and the majority see him for the puppet he is. After all, we can't have the president of the world being disrespected, now can we?
kokobaboko 2 years ago
The goal of the war is a state of continuous high profits for defense contractors. Defense contractors want a continuous state of war as the status-quo. If we had real campaign finance reform and the only voices that mattered are voters, then I a much less violent and more permanent solution to Afghanistan would be found sooner rather than later. Our present situation has some elected public officials representing the wishes of big industry over the voters who elected them. This has to stop.
morality101 2 years ago 5
Does anyone remember what happened to the Soviet Union when they were fighting in Afganistan in the 1980s? How come none of our politicians seem to remember the result of that conflict?
ITguy2560 2 years ago 3
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ITguy2560 2 years ago
Fucking politicians. Even Sanders, probably the most radical American politician since Eugene Debbs, can't come out and tell the unfiltered truth about the war. Look at the statistics he gives: 800 American troops dead, and a few billion dollars wasted, Did he forget to mention the tens of thousands, or quite possibly hundreds of thousands of dead Afghanis? Why didn't he mention the drone attacks, with their 3:1 civilian:militant death ratio?
The motherland trumps all, obviously.
henrythesteinberg 2 years ago 5
I voted for Obama, but he said during the campaign that our focus should be AF. No surprises here.
Like health care. Hillary's plan was much better. Obama is fulfilling his campaign promises as stated in his run to the WH. I am not surprised nor am I that happy but I still think he was the best candidate in the field.
bookish01 2 years ago
Obama knows it's a pointless war that will go on for as long as he wants it to. He has the troops in Afghanistan just to keep the military lobby off his back, better be there than bombing Iran & starting another cold war with Russia like McCain wanted
yearight1970 2 years ago
Oh come on...we should give up our nation to support the Rothschild Opium operations in Afgan. Stop being protectionaists....give yourselves away !
rungy07 2 years ago 2
How about allocating the money used for war in order to get Americans HEALTHY enough to fight terrorism, look at the bright side warlords more HEALTHY Americans more troops you can send all over the world (as always)! Healthcare!
jaimesandoval1988 2 years ago
It's sad that there are so many idiots who continue to believe in this 9/11 "truther" insanity. If only they would devote their energies to more positive efforts. But, there's no known cure for idiocy, so I suppose we just have to ignore these morons.
ricsteinberger 2 years ago