BOND ARMS please make a 4 barrel 410 shooter similar to the cop 357. Use the tranter type trigger system to make it double action. You guys would kick the taurus judges' ass with that.
Like many of these kind of videos penetration is totally ignored. We know they can print a pattern on paper and kill fruits and vegetables but how about penetration in a human? After all an ugly but shallow wound will not stop a determined attacker. Too many uninformed gun owners are buying these kind of guys and will aruge to the death that they are plenty of firepower based on the fact that they can make a lot of little holes in a paper target or blow up fruit.
@itouchnj Well yeah but I've seen where they can penetrate over six inches into ballistics gell. They say if it can't go 12 inches then it is not good for self defense. The thing is, if it only goes half way into a torso and not all the way through, it applies more stopping power. A human rib cage isn't made of steel or anything. If it can shoot through a 2x4 ( it can), it can shoot through a sternum.
I use my Taurus Judge (3 in cylinder) loaded with 5 000 410 shells for home defense. I conceal carry my SW model 60 (3" barrel) along w/ my Bond Snake Slayer as backup. Best
Hello there, again. Good vid. I also have the Judge Magnum ( shoots the 3" 410 shells or 45 long colt). The revolver is both single and double action. I love it
@imoutofnames1993 Title of the song is "Ecstasy of Gold" by Ennio Morricone... made famous in such film as the Good, the bad, the ugly.. Great spaghetti western song.. Metallica used this song as their intro for many years in their concerts.... GREAT SONG!
Why do you focus so much on Bond Arm's? You made 7 vids about them, using 3 different models that I could count from the titles. That's $1000+ worth of guns right there. $600 if you just changed the barrels. Something's fishy here.
I own a C2K model and it's freaking awesome. Bond Arms are definitely worth checking out. I don't think I could make a half dozen vids about them.
@HoldGovtAccountable Not true man. The police switched from revolvers to semi autos because they found they were expending all their ammo before the threat was stopped. I know of many police shoot outs where it took 14 rounds to hit and subdue the attacker. You never know what the "attack" is going to be. To each his own, but Id rather bet my life on more that 2 rounds, especially when the gun weighs over 20 ounces!!! You are in 1911 territory now.
@MrBallistics I will agree with you about the fact that more is better. I carry a Taurus PT-111 on myself and a Taurus judge in my car. I think that increasing your chances of survival is far better with 6-8- or 10 rounds is much more comforting for me too. Until we are forced into a life threatning situation, we will never know what the outcome will be. I still think think that one or two well placed shots are more desireable than the spray and pray approach however. :)
@HoldGovtAccountable I agree, shot placement is the most important. Derringers will be fantastic at what they have always been designed as: a back up weapon. Unfortunate though that this one weighs so much, dont think it'll work for ankle carry. If I were to carry a derringer for primary, Id go with one of th 45-70 survival models. If one shot will drop a bear, Id feel pretty confident about dropping an assailant. of course, some bird shot to the eyes would probably diffuse the situation too.
@MrBallistics Amen brother. My wife just got a Bond snake slayer IV 410/45, mostly for fun and to carry in her saddlebag when riding her horse. She carries the SW ladysmith 38cal. for personal and the Derringer for fun. (Early Christmas toy). The Bond Derringers are a little pricey ($435) but you can also change cal. for $139.00 which is pretty cool. She had the 38/357 comming too.....I should have never showed her that damn "Bond" website. haha.
@HoldGovtAccountable haha, I know what you mean. Just be glad you've got someone to share the hobby with! The snake slayer is on my shopping list as well. I cant think of a better snake gun, so the name is pretty apt. In Ga, where I live, they get really active in the spring. One of these babies in the pocket would be all you would need in copperhead country.
@MrBallistics Have you fired the Derringer 45/70, if so hows the kick?? seems that it will really hurt ones wrist after 2 rounds. But then again, in a hostile confrontation...who cares.
@HoldGovtAccountable haha no, not something I would go plinking with... I have read on boards where a full power load caused a man to be unable to use his hand for a month. There is a video on here somewhere of a guy shooting a weak load, looks to me like at least a 500 smith kick. Its got a 45-70 and a 4.10 barrel. Its morbid, but i figured the rifle round is for the bear thats on top of you, and the 4.10 is for yourself if the first round doesn't stop it... Id rather feel lead than teeth...
@TheThroney Uh, because the average amount of round discharged in a SD situation is 3-5, according to the NRA -ILA website. If 2 was enough for every situation, all guns would have 2 shot capacities.
A wise man once said, anyone worth shooting is worth shooting a dozen times.
The Judge is much more intimidating.May not even have to shoot some fool with it as you call 911 on the idiot.I do like the fact the Bond is more compact.The sad thing is both are less acccurate/shorter range than my snub .38 or Ruger LCP so I wont but one except in a very limited niche scenario.No one can say you are looking for trouble with a derringer holding two shots.
judge in my opinion is a gun youd keep in your truck on your lap.. can just blow straight through your door and murk anyone trying to car jack you.. i could see carrying the ranger for a backup gun though lol
@tavspop I have to agree. The barrel on the Texas Ranger is half breech. I would say the Judge has a 2.5" longer barrel. I am surprised how alike the patterns were.
@77winkleman I own a judge and it has a 3" barrel. That means 3" of rifling to spin a projectile. After the Ranger is loaded(with .45 long colt) about 1.5" of barrel are left. So when shooting shotshells, patterns are about the same. When shooting .45 long colt the judge has much greater range. I can shoot 3" groups at 75' all day. I'll bet the ranger can't do that at 25'. Not really a fair comparison, but I would still love a ranger if it ever got up close and personal+ concealment.
was the music from Good, Bad, and The Ugly or Fist Full of Dollars? I have both movies but for the life of me cant remember. Good theme, and excellent review!
what are you trying to compare? "conceal-ability"?...pointless! you are shooting the same ammo in both so why would power be any different? if your are comparing the hand guns themselvs then capicity is as important as size. I SAY THE BOTTOM LINE IS HOW MUCH TROUBLE YOU HAD LOADING THAT BOND ARMS..better hope you dont need more than two shots
@h2omadman concealability is pointless? have u ever handled the judge? lets see u walk around with that cannon on your hip, and u probably wouldnt need more than 1 shot, u are talking a .45lc and a .410, doubt u need more than one to get it done.
@davism4a1 ok,ok. the bond arms is smaller, yes. size/capacity is a trade off with all hand guns. size is VERY important in a carry weapon. my point is reloading for the bond arms is unique, therfore anyone could fumble with it. it also must be reloaded often. stats show even trained police miss 80% in real life shoot-outs
I've just realized, no gun is complete without one-liners. At first, he's just some typical, weirdo American gun enthusiast lowering my vast amount of gun ignorance, but as soon as he says "anyone for a little fruit salad?" BANG! he graduates to grade A badass.
Well done. I really like the musical score. Partner, that is what I call a good talkie of a picture show and sure nough good shooting. Happy Trails! Bravo for You.
love the video. It's great to see the two side by side. l only have a couple of comments. The barrel on the Bond arms isn't a true 4" like the one on the Judge. The Bonds barrel is only 1" if the .410 round is 3" long. Plus you don't have to cock the judge every time you want to shoot. I still plan to buy both guns because they are both very cool in their own respects. And at that those ranges they both did very well.
Great video. This shows that the bond arms ranger is much smaller and would be much better to carry. And you are correct if you need more than 2 shots you are in bigger trouble anyway. Love the music. I would like to see more this professionally done.
BOND ARMS please make a 4 barrel 410 shooter similar to the cop 357. Use the tranter type trigger system to make it double action. You guys would kick the taurus judges' ass with that.
louieattack24 1 month ago
Judge or Ranger, you'll understand if I wouldn't want you shooting an apple off of MY head with either one. Lol.
MrProDreamer 1 month ago
@MrProDreamer At least with the .410, anyway.
MrProDreamer 1 month ago
Like many of these kind of videos penetration is totally ignored. We know they can print a pattern on paper and kill fruits and vegetables but how about penetration in a human? After all an ugly but shallow wound will not stop a determined attacker. Too many uninformed gun owners are buying these kind of guys and will aruge to the death that they are plenty of firepower based on the fact that they can make a lot of little holes in a paper target or blow up fruit.
itouchnj 3 months ago
@itouchnj Well yeah but I've seen where they can penetrate over six inches into ballistics gell. They say if it can't go 12 inches then it is not good for self defense. The thing is, if it only goes half way into a torso and not all the way through, it applies more stopping power. A human rib cage isn't made of steel or anything. If it can shoot through a 2x4 ( it can), it can shoot through a sternum.
wtg2989 2 months ago
Own ss & poly public defender, you make that Texas Ranger look very interesting- thanks BMB
buymorebullets 4 months ago
Thank you.
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BigAgitator 5 months ago
Great Video Sir
SuperMigrod 6 months ago
that last part was epic!!
gniknus13 6 months ago
Nice touch with the Ecstasy of Gold song.
wtg2989 7 months ago
I use my Taurus Judge (3 in cylinder) loaded with 5 000 410 shells for home defense. I conceal carry my SW model 60 (3" barrel) along w/ my Bond Snake Slayer as backup. Best
roldans99 8 months ago
I Have the new Public Defender "Judge" Ploy LOVE IT!
lovemyguns2 9 months ago
Shooting paper wont tell you about penetration on muscle (snakes are all muscle)
With 7 1/2 shot mine just bounces off of snakes and groundhogs at distances as close as 25ft.
dont believe me? try the 7 1/2 load on ballistic gelatin covered with a piece of thin leather to simulate skin and you will see.
The only way to kill a snake with this reliably (without being closer than 6ft) is to use.45 LC
Its a belly gun and nothing more. It will serve you well as long as you dont expect crAzy things
jedirifleman 9 months ago
@jedirifleman common. wut about #4 shot 00buck 000buck slugs.
LateKnight347 6 months ago
i like the judge better.
mcmikeblues 9 months ago
Guns dont kill people, people dont kill people, bullets kills people.
SladeForelly 10 months ago
@SladeForelly bullets dont kill people, blood loss does.
jedirifleman 9 months ago
Hello there, again. Good vid. I also have the Judge Magnum ( shoots the 3" 410 shells or 45 long colt). The revolver is both single and double action. I love it
roldans99 10 months ago
Is the tarus judge single action too?
daleboyrdm 10 months ago
When 2 rounds are not enough, don't give up - RELOAD ;-)
KatanaReign 10 months ago
Good test...good video! Thanks for posting!
Sixgun51 11 months ago
Nice job...Like em both;-)
sleegdi 1 year ago
WHATS THE SONG WHATS THE SONG WHATS THE SONG!
imoutofnames1993 1 year ago
@imoutofnames1993 Title of the song is "Ecstasy of Gold" by Ennio Morricone... made famous in such film as the Good, the bad, the ugly.. Great spaghetti western song.. Metallica used this song as their intro for many years in their concerts.... GREAT SONG!
fixxxer602 1 year ago
Awesome, "The Old Stand By"
ThomasHocum 1 year ago
that was a great vid
MrDaleaaaa 1 year ago
Why do you focus so much on Bond Arm's? You made 7 vids about them, using 3 different models that I could count from the titles. That's $1000+ worth of guns right there. $600 if you just changed the barrels. Something's fishy here.
I own a C2K model and it's freaking awesome. Bond Arms are definitely worth checking out. I don't think I could make a half dozen vids about them.
theJdoggIMS 1 year ago
The biggest difference is that the Ranger is American made and the tarus is made in brazil, thats all i need to know
Johnsnyder666 1 year ago
Funny guy. :>
oilhammer04 1 year ago
In the words of the beatles "Happiness is a warm gun, bang bang".
HoldGovtAccountable 1 year ago
"if you cant get it done in two shots, you're probably going to loose." pretty sure youre alone on that one bud.
MrBallistics 1 year ago
@MrBallistics I think he means that if you miss twice, then your SOL in a real world attack which is pretty much true.
HoldGovtAccountable 1 year ago
@HoldGovtAccountable Not true man. The police switched from revolvers to semi autos because they found they were expending all their ammo before the threat was stopped. I know of many police shoot outs where it took 14 rounds to hit and subdue the attacker. You never know what the "attack" is going to be. To each his own, but Id rather bet my life on more that 2 rounds, especially when the gun weighs over 20 ounces!!! You are in 1911 territory now.
MrBallistics 1 year ago
@MrBallistics I will agree with you about the fact that more is better. I carry a Taurus PT-111 on myself and a Taurus judge in my car. I think that increasing your chances of survival is far better with 6-8- or 10 rounds is much more comforting for me too. Until we are forced into a life threatning situation, we will never know what the outcome will be. I still think think that one or two well placed shots are more desireable than the spray and pray approach however. :)
HoldGovtAccountable 1 year ago
@HoldGovtAccountable I agree, shot placement is the most important. Derringers will be fantastic at what they have always been designed as: a back up weapon. Unfortunate though that this one weighs so much, dont think it'll work for ankle carry. If I were to carry a derringer for primary, Id go with one of th 45-70 survival models. If one shot will drop a bear, Id feel pretty confident about dropping an assailant. of course, some bird shot to the eyes would probably diffuse the situation too.
MrBallistics 1 year ago
@MrBallistics Amen brother. My wife just got a Bond snake slayer IV 410/45, mostly for fun and to carry in her saddlebag when riding her horse. She carries the SW ladysmith 38cal. for personal and the Derringer for fun. (Early Christmas toy). The Bond Derringers are a little pricey ($435) but you can also change cal. for $139.00 which is pretty cool. She had the 38/357 comming too.....I should have never showed her that damn "Bond" website. haha.
HoldGovtAccountable 1 year ago
@HoldGovtAccountable haha, I know what you mean. Just be glad you've got someone to share the hobby with! The snake slayer is on my shopping list as well. I cant think of a better snake gun, so the name is pretty apt. In Ga, where I live, they get really active in the spring. One of these babies in the pocket would be all you would need in copperhead country.
MrBallistics 1 year ago
@MrBallistics Have you fired the Derringer 45/70, if so hows the kick?? seems that it will really hurt ones wrist after 2 rounds. But then again, in a hostile confrontation...who cares.
HoldGovtAccountable 1 year ago
@HoldGovtAccountable haha no, not something I would go plinking with... I have read on boards where a full power load caused a man to be unable to use his hand for a month. There is a video on here somewhere of a guy shooting a weak load, looks to me like at least a 500 smith kick. Its got a 45-70 and a 4.10 barrel. Its morbid, but i figured the rifle round is for the bear thats on top of you, and the 4.10 is for yourself if the first round doesn't stop it... Id rather feel lead than teeth...
MrBallistics 1 year ago
@MrBallistics Haha. right. Merry Christmas and happy shooting to you too.
HoldGovtAccountable 1 year ago
@MrBallistics why do you feel that way? about the qoute..
TheThroney 1 year ago
@TheThroney Uh, because the average amount of round discharged in a SD situation is 3-5, according to the NRA -ILA website. If 2 was enough for every situation, all guns would have 2 shot capacities.
A wise man once said, anyone worth shooting is worth shooting a dozen times.
MrBallistics 1 year ago
HA! good music choice, Ennio Morricone.
BrothersFreedive 1 year ago
The Judge is much more intimidating.May not even have to shoot some fool with it as you call 911 on the idiot.I do like the fact the Bond is more compact.The sad thing is both are less acccurate/shorter range than my snub .38 or Ruger LCP so I wont but one except in a very limited niche scenario.No one can say you are looking for trouble with a derringer holding two shots.
ITSMETHEFLASH 1 year ago
can you shoot slugs with eather of these firearms?
drzoo1974 1 year ago
Great video!
GunsKnivesSurvival 1 year ago
Very funny ending. I love your videos.
TakeDetour 1 year ago
yes but if there is more target aka bad guys the juge is the way to go
AlmostReality1 1 year ago
Great vid
m3a12as4 1 year ago 3
judge in my opinion is a gun youd keep in your truck on your lap.. can just blow straight through your door and murk anyone trying to car jack you.. i could see carrying the ranger for a backup gun though lol
linuxrebound 1 year ago
Woah. The barrel lengths are not the same.
tavspop 1 year ago
@tavspop I have to agree. The barrel on the Texas Ranger is half breech. I would say the Judge has a 2.5" longer barrel. I am surprised how alike the patterns were.
77winkleman 1 year ago
@77winkleman I own a judge and it has a 3" barrel. That means 3" of rifling to spin a projectile. After the Ranger is loaded(with .45 long colt) about 1.5" of barrel are left. So when shooting shotshells, patterns are about the same. When shooting .45 long colt the judge has much greater range. I can shoot 3" groups at 75' all day. I'll bet the ranger can't do that at 25'. Not really a fair comparison, but I would still love a ranger if it ever got up close and personal+ concealment.
tavspop 1 year ago
Love them both,this is a nice video,The Happy Trails Made me Laugh but still loved it Thanks.
I really did like the Comparison's
THETRUECRASHMONKEY 1 year ago
was the music from Good, Bad, and The Ugly or Fist Full of Dollars? I have both movies but for the life of me cant remember. Good theme, and excellent review!
Peidmonte89 1 year ago
what are you trying to compare? "conceal-ability"?...pointless! you are shooting the same ammo in both so why would power be any different? if your are comparing the hand guns themselvs then capicity is as important as size. I SAY THE BOTTOM LINE IS HOW MUCH TROUBLE YOU HAD LOADING THAT BOND ARMS..better hope you dont need more than two shots
h2omadman 1 year ago
@h2omadman concealability is pointless? have u ever handled the judge? lets see u walk around with that cannon on your hip, and u probably wouldnt need more than 1 shot, u are talking a .45lc and a .410, doubt u need more than one to get it done.
davism4a1 1 year ago
@davism4a1 ok,ok. the bond arms is smaller, yes. size/capacity is a trade off with all hand guns. size is VERY important in a carry weapon. my point is reloading for the bond arms is unique, therfore anyone could fumble with it. it also must be reloaded often. stats show even trained police miss 80% in real life shoot-outs
h2omadman 1 year ago
@h2omadman yeah all good points, i see the bond as a carry gun and the judge as a truck gun
davism4a1 1 year ago
I would go with the judge more ammo=more protection there is always the chance you will need more than two shots.
plus the two pistols are like the same price.
jims72 1 year ago
i like the good the bad and the ugly theme song in the backround
international1256 1 year ago
Hey Mr. Straightshot,
I like you videos. Nicely done. I was wondering if you've ever tried tossing skeets up and shooting them with either of these guns?
1968stickman 1 year ago
I've just realized, no gun is complete without one-liners. At first, he's just some typical, weirdo American gun enthusiast lowering my vast amount of gun ignorance, but as soon as he says "anyone for a little fruit salad?" BANG! he graduates to grade A badass.
MarlonOwnsYourCake 1 year ago
@MarlonOwnsYourCake You do realize that it is not the Person who decides the one liner? its the boomstick!
vampire847 1 year ago
Guns are beautiful
ZandRTheFlop 1 year ago 28
Dear Sir:
Well done. I really like the musical score. Partner, that is what I call a good talkie of a picture show and sure nough good shooting. Happy Trails! Bravo for You.
The old UncleSasquatch is sold on both!
UncleSasquatch 3 months ago
love the video. It's great to see the two side by side. l only have a couple of comments. The barrel on the Bond arms isn't a true 4" like the one on the Judge. The Bonds barrel is only 1" if the .410 round is 3" long. Plus you don't have to cock the judge every time you want to shoot. I still plan to buy both guns because they are both very cool in their own respects. And at that those ranges they both did very well.
rcarlsonaz 1 year ago
damn where can i buy one?
Frostyjesus 1 year ago
@Frostyjesus At the bond arms site
dutymaster1 1 year ago
long live the 12 gauge! haha. great video!
thedefinitive 2 years ago
The Ranger just made the top of my wishlist.
PunisherXD40 2 years ago
Great video. This shows that the bond arms ranger is much smaller and would be much better to carry. And you are correct if you need more than 2 shots you are in bigger trouble anyway. Love the music. I would like to see more this professionally done.
skeeterbassman1 2 years ago
I would like to see the Ranger vs Judge shooting 45 at 7 yards. I do like the ranger better.
MrCntrybyWlkr 2 years ago