That had to be the most miraculous recovery ever seen in the history of hang-gliding. What ? WHAT DID YOU SAY ??..... We completely missed a totally upside down hang-glider just a few feet from the ground and certain destruction somehow right itself,gain altitude and fly away because Cecile B. FuckingDa Mill suddenly had a giant butt-pucker attack and STOPPED FILMING ??The most incredible recovery in the history of ANY SPORT andCHEESE DICK CHARLIE the cameraman fucking missed it ? Wheres my gun!
Guys mabe he put the camera away because he was getting ready to run like hell? If you were about to see your friend die would you be like "oooo must film and put it on youtube!!!"
Did you see the brown trail of liquid streaming from his harness??? Do yourself a favor don't launch in a strong crosswind............ Better still stay home and live to fly another day!!!!!
damn i though he'd crashed.. he would have been dead for sure. that's terrible. it could stop people from hang gliding for sure. my god.. makes me scared.
From what I saw on a second event(not in this film) during landing. This very particular glider (NOT the model as a whole, but this glider only) has some nasty properties regarding stability.
One minute, it's all fun and excitement, then the next second you are plunging to your doom with no control over the situation! Hang Gliding? No thanks
Good to know you sold the glider after the same type of behaviour during landing in Laragne. Definitely something serious is wrong with this glider. Good to hear you still fly, because I feel like it not your fault but the glider ´s.
Good to know you sold the glider after the same type of behaviour during landing in Laragne. Definitely something serious is wrong with this glider. Good to hear you still fly, because I feel like it is not your fault but the glider ´s.
If in doubt - pull on MODERATE (or sufficient if you prefer) speed and hold it until you are in clearer air - doing semi wingovers in turbulence can lead to radical maneovoers: Main problem sarted around 6 seconds when he stuffed bar out!
If in doubt - pull on MODERATE (or sufficient if you prefer) speed and hold it until you are in clearer air - doing semi wingovers in turbulence can lead to radical maneovoers!
Mannen, ik heb jullie onlangs in laragne gezien. Ik was er voor BK . Persoonlijk zou ik zo een vleugel onmiddellijk weg doen. Eventueel zelfs naar de fabrikant stappen. Ook in Laragne was er iets grellig mis. Toen de vleugel ineens haaks naar beneden dook door een zogehete turbulentie, ik heb nog nooit een delta zo zien doen. ´t Was bijna "prijs" . Het is niet normaal dat een vleugel zulk een gedrag vertoont als je geen VG hebt gezet. grtz
Mannen, ik heb jullie onlangs in laragne gezien. Ik was er voor BK . Persoonlijk zou ik zo een vleugel onmiddellijk weg doen. Eventueel zelfs naar de fabrikant stappen. Ook in Laragne was er iets grellig mis. Toen de vleugel ineens haaks naar beneden dook door een zogehete turbulentie, ik heb nog nooit een delta zo zien doen. ´t Was bijna "prijs" . Het is niet normaal dat een vleugel zulk een gedrag vertoont als je geen VG hebt gezet. grtz
If your going to film something then do so, dont panic in the moment and miss the whole thing. Either that or quit fiming events and then posting useless footage on You Tube. Thank You. Best regards
Holy crap! I thought he was going down hard! ill soon be doing my EP training course at the Peak district, but this monouver has scared me :( I hope it doesnt happen to me!
Yes, already at start he was not flying fast enough. I think the last dive was a result of a stalling right wing, which he tried to correct leaning to the left and thus worsening the stall to the right. Only one remedy was to pull-in.
Cool wingover........just a bit close to the hill...!!!!!!
"There I was thought I was going too DIE...!!!!! "
In mild conditions I find it's ok to keep your body paralel to the keel but in realy rough conditions I find by swinging my feet even further than my head and shoulders I get better role authoraty.......makes cense...???
You are totally right. The best you can do is to shift as much weight as possible. By shifting the hips and feets only you are wasting energy. It is way easier to shift the whole body - and much more effective.
In hang gliding, cross controlling occurs when the pilot shifts his head and shoulders to one side, and his feet to the opposite side. The net weight shift is zero, and the glider doesn't bank. The proper technique is to keep your head and shoulders in the middle of the control bar and shift your hips and feet only.
Ziggy - don't listen to that - keep your body parallel at all times - move shoulders, hips and heels the same amount realative to the keel - that way you can apply the maximum weightshift and have more steering input (you will need it later when you have a 10m/s thermal under one wing). Great sport, enjoy.
Thanks for the advise, good to know you have no broken bones in 25 years, well done! The advise you talked about is similar to my instructors advise. Its simple physics. I guess trying to cross control might have some unwanted aerodynamic affect on the glider anyway causing drag and unwanted yaw. What do you think?
I have friends that swear if you get your legs way, way out (this after you are already at full parallel shoft), the aerodrag can help a bit - I have tried it and find a little more bank to be more effective
Sorry mate - you do not know what you are talking about - keep bad advice to yourself - you could cause somebody to get hurt
For anybody thinking of taking up hangliding:
THE CORRECT TECHNIQUE is to keep your body absolutely parallel to the Keel (the long tube pointing forward abve you) - i.e. move your shoulders, hips and heels in unison.
This way you maximise the weight shift you can apply.
Have fun flying,
Colin
HG Pilot for over 25 years, no broken bones (yet).
That's not the way I was taught, not what what my flight manual says, and not what works for me. Doesn't really matter, though, as long as you get your weight shifted, the glider will turn. Just don't shift your head and shoulders the opposite way from your feet and you'll be OK.
Think about the physics of it - the way you steer is to get weight "off centre" - leaving the heaviest part of you body (head and shoulders) in the centre of the bar reduces your ability to control the glider.
In a rough thermal one day you will need everything - better to learn good technique before you need it.
fukyou1000 is absolutely right. To make maximum use of your entire bodies weight the best result is obtained by shifting your entire body weight while keeping it parallel to the keel. I was thought to lead with your feet. Ultimately when leading with your feet your upper body follows. Now that i fly a powered harness it is crucial to keep my harness parallel to the keel. Or to keep the thrust parallel to the keel. Watch the pros. parallel to the keel is more aerodynamic too (much easier)
Lijkt m' een geval van zeer sterke zijwind ofwel door windstoot ofwel door foute inschatting aan start. Door sterke zijwind raakt rechtervleugel overtrokken. Op het ogenblik van opheffen linkervleugel is het zeer moeilijk efficient tegen te hangen, zoals blijkt uit enkel hoofdbeweging. Bij duiken is tegenhangen een pak eenvoudiger zoals blijkt.
Het lijkt mij vrij gezond dat je je te pletter schrikt en niet meer filmt, als je denkt dat je vriend voor je neus dood gaat. Het scheelde duidelijk heel weinig, maar dat wist je natuurlijk niet.
Great he survived. God reflexes at the almost end...
But the start in my opinion was not so good.
He was alowing the nose to come up at the start and after that he was flying way to slow for these conditions. If he was speeding up earlier he would probably be able to catch the sudden left bump in the correct way.
btw. the rest of the pilots were making the right desission not to fly that day.
Because similar behaviour occured in May 2008 (but this time on safe altitude in Greifenburg Austria), we checked the pitch-up profile of his glider. It was obvious that his wing was not properly trimmed: left pitch-up was too low compared to right. But if this was already the case last year when this video was made, is not sure because after this video the pilot made a very bad landing which damaged his glider and it was repaired by Bautec.
Yes, it definately looks like PIO. I am sort of an expert in the field after having suffered a similar situation myself. When you are a beginner, you may get into such oscillations even though your instructor has warned and explained how to avoid them.
It is not in my mind, I watched this video several times, most of ultralight flyers do not want to realize there can be aerological phenomenons which can be objective causes of accidents. Is it impossible for you here that he went out a thermal or anything more complex which created a stall and a spin ? His moving is ok, only the event seems unusual, the weather seems gusty... Can be no luck, It may be there was nothing to do but what he did
"There was a hard wind on the start, sometimes coming from the left. The turbulences caused by this sidewind were very strong. Nobody took of anymore after this start. Also the landing conditions were very very turbulent"
This is what "SuperJasper" told at the beginning.
But I dont deny "overpiloting" exists , oscillations, usual by beginners(that pilot is clearly not even if a monitor is here)But his wing is clearly taken in something like a rotor.
It was mostly overcontrol, he got into PIO (pilot induced oscillation). Strong wind and turbulence probabaly played a part, specially if the pilot felt like wanting to get away from the mountain and in order to overcome the wind had the tendency to accelerate. If he had flown with a light pitch it wouldn´t have happened. My 2 cents...
on my very first high alt mountan flight it was vary windy and turbulent, wind wore about 30mph. I took off anyway, had no problem. But I was getting dizzy up there so I had to land after flying for 20 min.
AH ok. I see his error now. He launches in rough air and deals with it well initially. However at 15 seconds notice he does NOT shift his entire body to the side of the wing that is rising but ONLY his head!!!! result... the wing continues to rise on one side and he enters a dive.
He starts without enough speed. He let the nose of glider come up and flew away near min-sink/stall. He was too inexperienced on this glider in these hard conditions.
There was a hard wind on the start, sometimes coming from the left. The turbulences caused by this sidewind were very strong. Nobody took of anymore after this start. Also the landing conditions were very very turbulent.
.... a 'near death' experience?
hagenful 3 months ago
That had to be the most miraculous recovery ever seen in the history of hang-gliding. What ? WHAT DID YOU SAY ??..... We completely missed a totally upside down hang-glider just a few feet from the ground and certain destruction somehow right itself,gain altitude and fly away because Cecile B. FuckingDa Mill suddenly had a giant butt-pucker attack and STOPPED FILMING ??The most incredible recovery in the history of ANY SPORT andCHEESE DICK CHARLIE the cameraman fucking missed it ? Wheres my gun!
nerblebun 3 months ago
Guys mabe he put the camera away because he was getting ready to run like hell? If you were about to see your friend die would you be like "oooo must film and put it on youtube!!!"
PYR04LIF3 4 months ago
Dumb ass cameraman lowers the camera failing to catch seconds from disaster as the glider guy almost falls to his death, you're fired !!
worldwildwest 5 months ago
Did you see the brown trail of liquid streaming from his harness??? Do yourself a favor don't launch in a strong crosswind............ Better still stay home and live to fly another day!!!!!
MrMicj 6 months ago
Epic filming fail.
nipperdog7777 6 months ago
Thats why they ended up putting motors on them and calling them ultralights
roro879 6 months ago
Three months ago. With the start of a side wind, I lost airspeed and fell 15 feet down. I was lucky just broke his knee.
Grekmoped 7 months ago
damn i though he'd crashed.. he would have been dead for sure. that's terrible. it could stop people from hang gliding for sure. my god.. makes me scared.
timmay301 7 months ago
you don't deserve to own a camera
onlytwothings 7 months ago 2
Я чуть в штаны не наложил за пилота, ппц)
Voazar 8 months ago
why the fuck put the camera down
thecrazybhanu 9 months ago
he used a gravity cheat code !
jasonyeozhishen 9 months ago
damm next time dont move the camera film the whole event
justinRkeaton 1 year ago
From what I saw on a second event(not in this film) during landing. This very particular glider (NOT the model as a whole, but this glider only) has some nasty properties regarding stability.
belgianhorst 1 year ago
After another event (during landing on final) the pilot sold the wing.
belgianhorst 1 year ago
Camera man fail.
4leafmetal 1 year ago
wtf did u start filming the grass... u missed the best part
nikai123456789 1 year ago
One minute, it's all fun and excitement, then the next second you are plunging to your doom with no control over the situation! Hang Gliding? No thanks
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Good to know you sold the glider after the same type of behaviour during landing in Laragne. Definitely something serious is wrong with this glider. Good to hear you still fly, because I feel like it not your fault but the glider ´s.
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Good to know you sold the glider after the same type of behaviour during landing in Laragne. Definitely something serious is wrong with this glider. Good to hear you still fly, because I feel like it is not your fault but the glider ´s.
belgianhorst 1 year ago
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belgianhorst 1 year ago
If in doubt - pull on MODERATE (or sufficient if you prefer) speed and hold it until you are in clearer air - doing semi wingovers in turbulence can lead to radical maneovoers: Main problem sarted around 6 seconds when he stuffed bar out!
armandin2048 1 year ago
If in doubt - pull on MODERATE (or sufficient if you prefer) speed and hold it until you are in clearer air - doing semi wingovers in turbulence can lead to radical maneovoers!
armandin2048 1 year ago
Cross controlling.
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Mannen, ik heb jullie onlangs in laragne gezien. Ik was er voor BK . Persoonlijk zou ik zo een vleugel onmiddellijk weg doen. Eventueel zelfs naar de fabrikant stappen. Ook in Laragne was er iets grellig mis. Toen de vleugel ineens haaks naar beneden dook door een zogehete turbulentie, ik heb nog nooit een delta zo zien doen. ´t Was bijna "prijs" . Het is niet normaal dat een vleugel zulk een gedrag vertoont als je geen VG hebt gezet. grtz
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Mannen, ik heb jullie onlangs in laragne gezien. Ik was er voor BK . Persoonlijk zou ik zo een vleugel onmiddellijk weg doen. Eventueel zelfs naar de fabrikant stappen. Ook in Laragne was er iets grellig mis. Toen de vleugel ineens haaks naar beneden dook door een zogehete turbulentie, ik heb nog nooit een delta zo zien doen. ´t Was bijna "prijs" . Het is niet normaal dat een vleugel zulk een gedrag vertoont als je geen VG hebt gezet. grtz
belgianhorst 1 year ago
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belgianhorst 1 year ago
fucking noob camera man. why would you point the camera away.
Johnnyboy2010 1 year ago
haha did you just say, wa was da !
ProportaReviewsUK 1 year ago
Camera man should have been pushed down the cliff.
marcuelcajon 1 year ago
He was almost upside down so how could he recover from this? We'll never know because the cameraman decided the grass was more important.
arcanacelestia 1 year ago 2
@miraclepieco From 0:06 to 0:08 the pilot has the bar stuffed right out. That is asking for a stall and a dropped wing!
NevilleStyke 2 years ago
waaw H. Dat was raar !! Maar desalniettemin goe filmke.
rustablejan 2 years ago
hahahahhahahahahahahahaha
girth182 2 years ago
dios ese se salvo de milagro alguien que me explique que le paso estoy aprendiendo a volar gracias que sea en español porfa
arquimedesnava1 2 years ago
nice wing roll that was off the wall I think your the first that does a wing roll nice save the dude
xlentertainment 2 years ago
WTF !!!!!!!!!!!! People and there cameras
Fucking annoying.
If your going to film something then do so, dont panic in the moment and miss the whole thing. Either that or quit fiming events and then posting useless footage on You Tube. Thank You. Best regards
budman8207 2 years ago 32
you're a product of the age of internet videos
THEinspectigator 2 years ago 3
@budman8207 some people care more about their mates. mate
ALostPilot 7 months ago
@ALostPilot Yes, you are right... and my comment was made without consideration of that fact. Thank you.Peace
budman8207 7 months ago
what a f...k!!!!! you luky
fongio86 2 years ago
UFFFFFFF..........
1774andres 2 years ago
Oh my god___..-..___ ooo------.._..-----
ALTITUDERJ 2 years ago
Holy crap! I thought he was going down hard! ill soon be doing my EP training course at the Peak district, but this monouver has scared me :( I hope it doesnt happen to me!
seanie222 2 years ago
why did he put the camera away when the best part of the video happend?
rummy12399 2 years ago 21
I agree. For now on Im telling people filming me for any reason, if i crash or something to keep filming!
CLayaway1 2 years ago 2
be sure to add...."put it on youtube also!"
conrad2468 2 years ago 2
yeah ..... youre right .......i hate that way of filming:D
OnnomonnomonnO 2 years ago
Wow!
springfieldtech 2 years ago
PULL-IN!!!! There are sooo many things wrong in this video and in the comments...Some people get it right away, some never get it. Good Luck!
lifelikedan 2 years ago
Yes, already at start he was not flying fast enough. I think the last dive was a result of a stalling right wing, which he tried to correct leaning to the left and thus worsening the stall to the right. Only one remedy was to pull-in.
MaartenSpoek 2 years ago
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lifelikedan 2 years ago
way to jerk the camera around at the best part.
jernimo23 3 years ago 2
Cool wingover........just a bit close to the hill...!!!!!!
"There I was thought I was going too DIE...!!!!! "
In mild conditions I find it's ok to keep your body paralel to the keel but in realy rough conditions I find by swinging my feet even further than my head and shoulders I get better role authoraty.......makes cense...???
"No place like cloud base"
Sangoma
(U2 fun 190 )
justcave 3 years ago
You are totally right. The best you can do is to shift as much weight as possible. By shifting the hips and feets only you are wasting energy. It is way easier to shift the whole body - and much more effective.
HangmanMo 3 years ago
Holy Sh*t! That was Very scary, He should have had the nose down more and pulled on more speed!
HangglidingNW 3 years ago
What was that?...Almust die hurled a...Oh, I get it.
hartistry1957 3 years ago
He was cross controlling as well.
FormerFF 3 years ago
How can you cross control on a hang glider? Only one input, ie pilot weight shift, not two like rudder/airleron cross control on a plane.
dustziggy 3 years ago
In hang gliding, cross controlling occurs when the pilot shifts his head and shoulders to one side, and his feet to the opposite side. The net weight shift is zero, and the glider doesn't bank. The proper technique is to keep your head and shoulders in the middle of the control bar and shift your hips and feet only.
FormerFF 3 years ago
Thanks, just learning to fly
dustziggy 3 years ago
Ziggy - don't listen to that - keep your body parallel at all times - move shoulders, hips and heels the same amount realative to the keel - that way you can apply the maximum weightshift and have more steering input (you will need it later when you have a 10m/s thermal under one wing). Great sport, enjoy.
COlin
fukyou1000 3 years ago
Thanks for the advise, good to know you have no broken bones in 25 years, well done! The advise you talked about is similar to my instructors advise. Its simple physics. I guess trying to cross control might have some unwanted aerodynamic affect on the glider anyway causing drag and unwanted yaw. What do you think?
dustziggy 3 years ago
I have friends that swear if you get your legs way, way out (this after you are already at full parallel shoft), the aerodrag can help a bit - I have tried it and find a little more bank to be more effective
fukyou1000 3 years ago
Sorry mate - you do not know what you are talking about - keep bad advice to yourself - you could cause somebody to get hurt
For anybody thinking of taking up hangliding:
THE CORRECT TECHNIQUE is to keep your body absolutely parallel to the Keel (the long tube pointing forward abve you) - i.e. move your shoulders, hips and heels in unison.
This way you maximise the weight shift you can apply.
Have fun flying,
Colin
HG Pilot for over 25 years, no broken bones (yet).
fukyou1000 3 years ago
That's not the way I was taught, not what what my flight manual says, and not what works for me. Doesn't really matter, though, as long as you get your weight shifted, the glider will turn. Just don't shift your head and shoulders the opposite way from your feet and you'll be OK.
FormerFF 3 years ago
Think about the physics of it - the way you steer is to get weight "off centre" - leaving the heaviest part of you body (head and shoulders) in the centre of the bar reduces your ability to control the glider.
In a rough thermal one day you will need everything - better to learn good technique before you need it.
fukyou1000 3 years ago
fukyou1000 is absolutely right. To make maximum use of your entire bodies weight the best result is obtained by shifting your entire body weight while keeping it parallel to the keel. I was thought to lead with your feet. Ultimately when leading with your feet your upper body follows. Now that i fly a powered harness it is crucial to keep my harness parallel to the keel. Or to keep the thrust parallel to the keel. Watch the pros. parallel to the keel is more aerodynamic too (much easier)
FlightinmyVeins 3 years ago
I,m a pilot and i was ducking from the impact. Istill think i died in that one. LOL close call.
flyguy4fun 3 years ago
Lijkt m' een geval van zeer sterke zijwind ofwel door windstoot ofwel door foute inschatting aan start. Door sterke zijwind raakt rechtervleugel overtrokken. Op het ogenblik van opheffen linkervleugel is het zeer moeilijk efficient tegen te hangen, zoals blijkt uit enkel hoofdbeweging. Bij duiken is tegenhangen een pak eenvoudiger zoals blijkt.
belgianhorst 3 years ago
Looks like a combination of pilot induced oscillation, overcontrol and maybe gust thermal. How was the trim on the glider?
MrBentor 3 years ago 2
hallo dat is zo raar maar wel dom dat je de camera juist weg draaid !
maarijke 3 years ago
Het lijkt mij vrij gezond dat je je te pletter schrikt en niet meer filmt, als je denkt dat je vriend voor je neus dood gaat. Het scheelde duidelijk heel weinig, maar dat wist je natuurlijk niet.
MaartenSpoek 2 years ago
Great he survived. God reflexes at the almost end...
But the start in my opinion was not so good.
He was alowing the nose to come up at the start and after that he was flying way to slow for these conditions. If he was speeding up earlier he would probably be able to catch the sudden left bump in the correct way.
btw. the rest of the pilots were making the right desission not to fly that day.
deltantony 3 years ago 2
I love the "wowowsdawowowsda"
soliv27 3 years ago 3
Glad he made it! What was the pilot's explanation? How could this be avoided from his point of view?
damunchiman 3 years ago
Because similar behaviour occured in May 2008 (but this time on safe altitude in Greifenburg Austria), we checked the pitch-up profile of his glider. It was obvious that his wing was not properly trimmed: left pitch-up was too low compared to right. But if this was already the case last year when this video was made, is not sure because after this video the pilot made a very bad landing which damaged his glider and it was repaired by Bautec.
hvanhoec 3 years ago
Yes, it definately looks like PIO. I am sort of an expert in the field after having suffered a similar situation myself. When you are a beginner, you may get into such oscillations even though your instructor has warned and explained how to avoid them.
periergopoulos 3 years ago
It is not in my mind, I watched this video several times, most of ultralight flyers do not want to realize there can be aerological phenomenons which can be objective causes of accidents. Is it impossible for you here that he went out a thermal or anything more complex which created a stall and a spin ? His moving is ok, only the event seems unusual, the weather seems gusty... Can be no luck, It may be there was nothing to do but what he did
soliv27 3 years ago
"There was a hard wind on the start, sometimes coming from the left. The turbulences caused by this sidewind were very strong. Nobody took of anymore after this start. Also the landing conditions were very very turbulent"
This is what "SuperJasper" told at the beginning.
But I dont deny "overpiloting" exists , oscillations, usual by beginners(that pilot is clearly not even if a monitor is here)But his wing is clearly taken in something like a rotor.
soliv27 3 years ago 2
It was mostly overcontrol, he got into PIO (pilot induced oscillation). Strong wind and turbulence probabaly played a part, specially if the pilot felt like wanting to get away from the mountain and in order to overcome the wind had the tendency to accelerate. If he had flown with a light pitch it wouldn´t have happened. My 2 cents...
KabalaKook 3 years ago
really lucky ... i lost a friend in a almost same way ...
grcvv 3 years ago
on my very first high alt mountan flight it was vary windy and turbulent, wind wore about 30mph. I took off anyway, had no problem. But I was getting dizzy up there so I had to land after flying for 20 min.
lti12 4 years ago
There was a thermal with some turbulence. Definitly He is hanged too high, plus the delicate pitch of the hang glider did not help.
pepeleyva 4 years ago
OMG! What glider was it!
There is another video about displaying similar characteristics. the pilot is a lucky bugger.
chettsy 4 years ago
I think it was a spider from Bautec
hvanhoec 4 years ago
I was wrong. It was not a spider but a kite.
hvanhoec 4 years ago
AH ok. I see his error now. He launches in rough air and deals with it well initially. However at 15 seconds notice he does NOT shift his entire body to the side of the wing that is rising but ONLY his head!!!! result... the wing continues to rise on one side and he enters a dive.
feastonmyload 4 years ago
The pilot only had 2 or 3 flights on his new glider which is very fast responding.
superjasper64 4 years ago
He starts without enough speed. He let the nose of glider come up and flew away near min-sink/stall. He was too inexperienced on this glider in these hard conditions.
MaartenSpoek 2 years ago
@feastonmyload i think there was not much error there. he tried to correct but hell if you get blown over like that what are you gonna do!!
timmay301 7 months ago
WOW! nice save. What caused all that turbulence? He was flying too slow in rough air/rotor and stalled?
feastonmyload 4 years ago 3
There was a hard wind on the start, sometimes coming from the left. The turbulences caused by this sidewind were very strong. Nobody took of anymore after this start. Also the landing conditions were very very turbulent.
superjasper64 4 years ago