This is the calm cool zhuge liang that we all love. No words needed to be said. Unlike the new zhuge liang in the 2010 remake where he cries like a little bitch. Totally ruin the characters personal
honestly i still proud of zhugeliang. he can't kill shimayi not because shimayi more powerful but it is because han dynasty have to be end.nobody can change the fate even zhugeliang.
heaven said its not their time to die yet so thats why they live. no matter what if not your time to die , you will not die something extrandanary will happpen to save you.
really unfortunate, Sima Zhao is destined to be emperor, otherwise the sky would not have rained. Something that Zhuge Liang couldn't predict. Should have used arrows instead of fire.
Sima Yi and Zhugeliang are not that great. They cause the deaths of many people. Ya, being the general is great. You are glorified for success in battle. But life as a soldier sure is miserable. You have to endanger your life, only for general's to take the credit. You can die anytime, whether you are under Zhuge or Sima. Why these distinguished people can't work together to build a prosperous China?
1. they cant work together because each has a lord they are loyal to. well Sima Yi was loyal until he realized he and his sons could seize the realm.
2. how can they build a prosperous China if the country is not unified?
3. War is sometimes necessary, thats why there are generals and soldiers. People want to dominate others or in Liu Bei's case, restore peace. The opposing side wants to defend themselves or in Cao Cao's case, fight for the control of the realm.
It's very unfair and uninsightful to day that Zhuge Liang is "not that great".
You need to take into account the historical context - at that time, you have strategists/statesmen (i.e. Zhuge Liang) giving out the commands and people who do the fighting. That's the way things work back then and it only looks "unfair" from the perspective of us today.
Also, I'm sure that Zhuge Liang's genius and leadership could make up more than the fact that he did not fight in wars in person.
Off Heaven is on sima yi's side. If sima yi dies, then Shu will win and liu shan will be emperor then the people will suffer cos liu shan wont vare about country.
well...dat was just bad luck...cant blame it on zhuge liang for being hasty...he was overwork for running every military affairs of shu...plus maybe the heavens reali blessed sima yi and his sons...but i dun ment to question zhuge liang but y din he giv them an arrow shower to kill them instantly...
lmao, I had that same question before, but here's my conclusion. Zhuge Liang was sure of the fire attack's sucess. If they [Sima Yi, his sons and all the Wei soldiers] were going to be burned to death, why waste hand-made arrows that cost both time and materials to make?
Regardless of whether or not he summoned the winds, he was the greatest strategist of the age, a man able to take the most meager forces and lead them to victory against the mightiest of foes. He is worthy of being remembered as such.
Long before Shangfang when Wei plotted to have FIVE armies (Qiang, Nanman, Cao, Wu, and another one) marching into Shu, he was so calm compared to the other officials. He had plans to drive away the 4 armies, but for the last one (Wu) he was deciding who could be the negotiator, and he chose Dengzhi.
Conclusion: Zhuge Liang was both hasty and subsequently not cautious enough. He knew time was running out on him (hence the pacing of the Northern Dipper praying the Heaven for more life years).
2. He was too hasty in retreating upon receiving Li Yan's word that Wu was invading Yong An (the mouth to Yizhou and subsequently Cheng Du). He didn't take time to verify this. What happened the calm, cautious Zhuge? Had doing so much work impaired his reasoning?
He was hasty. I'm going to present instances of his hastiness in the Northern Expeditions:
1. Upon defeating Nanman, he gathered troops immediately marching north without resting. In the essay given to Liu Chan he said "If we wait the enemies will grow stronger." He had reasons to be hasty. His hastiness was not a bad thing - "time" is after all a crucial factor in warfare.
if you see a few episodes before the borrowing the southeast wind one, you'd see Zhuge Liang telling Liu Bei about sending Zhou Yu on the same day he summoned the wind; he told Liu Bei like weeks before the summoning took place.
Thats cannot compare with this. Zhuge Liang did not summoned wind, he wasn't able to. It just the author make the story more attractive while reading. He can forcast there was South East wind during that time. But this time it was a sudden rain, even the technology now cannot predict so accurately will today rain or not.
That's a naming possibility. However, from the evidence that he could even command the weather before the Battle of Chi-Bi, it seems strange that he wasn't able to predict the weather accurately in this ambuscade.
It was not that Lord Zhuge was too hasty; true that Sima Yi would have been a better asset on the side of Shu-Han rather than smoldering dead ash, but it seemed to the Chinese audience to which this was broadcasted and to Zhuge Liang himself that the gods themselves said, 'Sima Yi will not die today.'
This is the calm cool zhuge liang that we all love. No words needed to be said. Unlike the new zhuge liang in the 2010 remake where he cries like a little bitch. Totally ruin the characters personal
anhtran 6 months ago
The birth of industrialized warfare was in China while Rome fell apart.
ChaosIncarnate7 7 months ago
is there a episode about ji valley? if there is can you show me or upload it?
DWarriors100 9 months ago
Best clip of this series...bar NONE!
SonnyAMan 1 year ago
if sima yi and his son died..then the whole chinese history will be different...fucckkkkk
cheetahish 1 year ago
shit why can't they get some archers in there while the fire is raging!!....
danpt2000 2 years ago 10
This event did not really happen in the real history .
The man who played Liang is the best chinese actor ever ....
sunaliba 2 years ago
I do believe the man who played Liang is the best actor ever, Chinese or not. :)
phalanxbl 2 years ago 3
I love Zhuge Liangs music theme in this, I just had to learn it on piano
NeoDragonKnight 2 years ago
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zhuge Liang's intelligence is greatly exaggerated, he is a loser.
frankenstein6666 2 years ago
假定司马懿死在上方谷,那么诸葛亮的好日子也就到头了。之前后主就一再听信谗言,说丞相拥兵自重。谎言说上十遍就能成真,何况诸葛亮击败了司马懿。战死司马懿,诸葛亮必然被召回成都削去兵权。诸葛亮很清楚他跟司马懿之间的微妙的关系,司马懿要是在西城干死诸葛亮,司马懿也完蛋了。
katia20082009 2 years ago
所以,诸葛亮故意选个上方谷,选择可能出现阴雨的时候引诱司马懿前来,一举两得。一方面表现出他竭尽所能为国尽忠,另一方面知道司马懿其实死不了。这就是政治,早已超过军事了。
katia20082009 2 years ago
honestly i still proud of zhugeliang. he can't kill shimayi not because shimayi more powerful but it is because han dynasty have to be end.nobody can change the fate even zhugeliang.
chinayap 2 years ago 6
sad, that even heaven is on the evil side lol
faltigon7174 2 years ago
heaven said its not their time to die yet so thats why they live. no matter what if not your time to die , you will not die something extrandanary will happpen to save you.
paonmao00 2 years ago 5
诸葛亮上知天文,下知地理,却不知山古风的形成和对天气的影响,上方谷的特殊地形正适合山古风的形成,遇到高处的水汽又凝结成雨雾,最终演变成了一场大雨救了司马懿。蜀军可在木头上浇油.
LYSHMMU 3 years ago 2
It should of been a mixture of fire and arrows, Boiling senseless oil should of been set up too
sirrington 3 years ago 3
为什么不在火烧的时候用箭射呢!!!为什么诸葛亮之前能算好借东风,就不能算好这天有雨呢!!!真是的~!
ytz0710 3 years ago 2
天有不测风云...老天要司马一家当皇帝,不会让他们死的.
xdboiboi 3 years ago 3
This is surely the biggest BS in the world.
jaerirob644 3 years ago
really unfortunate, Sima Zhao is destined to be emperor, otherwise the sky would not have rained. Something that Zhuge Liang couldn't predict. Should have used arrows instead of fire.
ghuang2008 3 years ago 3
Bad luck... :'(. The look on his face at the end was so sad.
serpentdoness 3 years ago 3
this proves that you gotta have the kind of life for it!
yoyofish 3 years ago
i just knowtist ,zhu ge liang learned a lesson from this event, zhang he was killed by arrows because they were trapped just like sima yi, LOL
counterstriker1246 3 years ago
if i was zhuge liang i would of do wat zhang ren did 2 pang tong in the vally of the fallen phoenix give them and arrowsrain 2 make sure he was dead
neiji412 3 years ago 3
Zhuge Liang expected the fire to kill them, why waste arrows? and he probably didnt bring any.
zhugeliang207 3 years ago 3
who r the 2 sons?
skyboo2 3 years ago
i think its sima shi and sima zhao
neiji412 3 years ago
Sima Yi and Zhugeliang are not that great. They cause the deaths of many people. Ya, being the general is great. You are glorified for success in battle. But life as a soldier sure is miserable. You have to endanger your life, only for general's to take the credit. You can die anytime, whether you are under Zhuge or Sima. Why these distinguished people can't work together to build a prosperous China?
zenaong 3 years ago
1. they cant work together because each has a lord they are loyal to. well Sima Yi was loyal until he realized he and his sons could seize the realm.
2. how can they build a prosperous China if the country is not unified?
3. War is sometimes necessary, thats why there are generals and soldiers. People want to dominate others or in Liu Bei's case, restore peace. The opposing side wants to defend themselves or in Cao Cao's case, fight for the control of the realm.
zhugeliang207 3 years ago 4
It's very unfair and uninsightful to day that Zhuge Liang is "not that great".
You need to take into account the historical context - at that time, you have strategists/statesmen (i.e. Zhuge Liang) giving out the commands and people who do the fighting. That's the way things work back then and it only looks "unfair" from the perspective of us today.
Also, I'm sure that Zhuge Liang's genius and leadership could make up more than the fact that he did not fight in wars in person.
jaerirob644 3 years ago 3
Sorry, in my above comment on the first line, I was meant to say "...to SAY that Zhuge Liang..."
jaerirob644 3 years ago
Zhuge should have laid an ambush at the mouth of the valley in case the Wei troops escape.
andyngtangyi 3 years ago 3
despite his ingenuity, he is still human and human makes mistake
inter060708 3 years ago 2
Off Heaven is on sima yi's side. If sima yi dies, then Shu will win and liu shan will be emperor then the people will suffer cos liu shan wont vare about country.
djz870 3 years ago 3
It meant to be; it was not Sima Yi's time to go yet. Liang knew that if he couldnt kill Yi today, he would not have a second chance--and it was true.
Freewilddragon 4 years ago 5
well...dat was just bad luck...cant blame it on zhuge liang for being hasty...he was overwork for running every military affairs of shu...plus maybe the heavens reali blessed sima yi and his sons...but i dun ment to question zhuge liang but y din he giv them an arrow shower to kill them instantly...
Killerkid282 4 years ago 3
lmao, I had that same question before, but here's my conclusion. Zhuge Liang was sure of the fire attack's sucess. If they [Sima Yi, his sons and all the Wei soldiers] were going to be burned to death, why waste hand-made arrows that cost both time and materials to make?
zhugeliang207 4 years ago 2
wow, God sure can be a bitch
HarvirBraich 4 years ago
now that's just rude dude. You don't have to say it like that.
terryts2 4 years ago
yh but its the bleak way of looking at it, rude? Who is it being rude to? Saying that God can be a bitch isn't being rude
HarvirBraich 4 years ago
Regardless of whether or not he summoned the winds, he was the greatest strategist of the age, a man able to take the most meager forces and lead them to victory against the mightiest of foes. He is worthy of being remembered as such.
Revolution177 4 years ago 13
Absolutely
Who wouldn't want Zhuge Liang on their side in a war??
If he was here today and Earth got invaded by aliens or something, I would definitely want him to be the chief commander/strategist XD
jaerirob644 3 years ago 3
@Revolution177 Victory? What victory did Kongming have? Against lil rebel tribes in the south? Failure of 5 campaigns?
MasamuneAzure 1 year ago
i hope someone could upload the entire three kingdom episodes onto youtube
flusswestninja 4 years ago
Sorry I had to post it in parts because the limit was 500 characters per comment.
ichimarugin771 4 years ago
Long before Shangfang when Wei plotted to have FIVE armies (Qiang, Nanman, Cao, Wu, and another one) marching into Shu, he was so calm compared to the other officials. He had plans to drive away the 4 armies, but for the last one (Wu) he was deciding who could be the negotiator, and he chose Dengzhi.
Conclusion: Zhuge Liang was both hasty and subsequently not cautious enough. He knew time was running out on him (hence the pacing of the Northern Dipper praying the Heaven for more life years).
ichimarugin771 4 years ago
Also, Zhuge Liang really had no choice but to attack north.
If he don't do that, he'll just be waiting for Cao Wei to come and get them instead.
jaerirob644 3 years ago
2. He was too hasty in retreating upon receiving Li Yan's word that Wu was invading Yong An (the mouth to Yizhou and subsequently Cheng Du). He didn't take time to verify this. What happened the calm, cautious Zhuge? Had doing so much work impaired his reasoning?
ichimarugin771 4 years ago
He was hasty. I'm going to present instances of his hastiness in the Northern Expeditions:
1. Upon defeating Nanman, he gathered troops immediately marching north without resting. In the essay given to Liu Chan he said "If we wait the enemies will grow stronger." He had reasons to be hasty. His hastiness was not a bad thing - "time" is after all a crucial factor in warfare.
ichimarugin771 4 years ago
if you see a few episodes before the borrowing the southeast wind one, you'd see Zhuge Liang telling Liu Bei about sending Zhou Yu on the same day he summoned the wind; he told Liu Bei like weeks before the summoning took place.
radius41526 4 years ago
Thats cannot compare with this. Zhuge Liang did not summoned wind, he wasn't able to. It just the author make the story more attractive while reading. He can forcast there was South East wind during that time. But this time it was a sudden rain, even the technology now cannot predict so accurately will today rain or not.
kggoh 4 years ago 5
u mean zhao yun
neiji412 3 years ago
he was much younger when he borrowed the southeast wind. he's probably just getting old.
radius41526 4 years ago
Having Sima Yi is cao cao bigest mistake. Wei going taken by the Sima family.
aznpride0 4 years ago
but cao cao did not trust sima yi it was cao pi or cao rui who brought sima yi back 2 office
neiji412 3 years ago
He did not command the weather in chi bi, he just know there will be east wind... he just pretend and acted as if he summon it.
kaizu84 4 years ago
Borrowing Southeastern wind? I thought it's just an elaborate trick of Zhuge Liang to get away safely, not that he could command the weather. :)
Titan9999 4 years ago
Zhuge Liang was too hasty in killing Sima Yi; he forgot to watch the weather.
ichimarugin771 4 years ago
Maybe he did watch the weather, but sometimes weather is just unpredictable.
Titan9999 4 years ago
That's a naming possibility. However, from the evidence that he could even command the weather before the Battle of Chi-Bi, it seems strange that he wasn't able to predict the weather accurately in this ambuscade.
ichimarugin771 4 years ago
@Titan9999 Going against heaven's will does not do you any good.
CunardProductions94 1 year ago
It was not that Lord Zhuge was too hasty; true that Sima Yi would have been a better asset on the side of Shu-Han rather than smoldering dead ash, but it seemed to the Chinese audience to which this was broadcasted and to Zhuge Liang himself that the gods themselves said, 'Sima Yi will not die today.'
trueyoukai22 4 years ago
damn that sucks.
Midair 4 years ago 5
All planning are from mankind, but the success of the plan is upon the God's wish.
antonton1 4 years ago 6