Atheism is responsible for the slaughter of over 200 milion innocent people in the last 100 years alone. Thta's 1 world trade center per day per 10 years. All of the murderous dictatiors in history were adherents to the religion of atheism.
@ivlfounder - There's always ignorant and smug people like you who don't know what they're talking about and don't do the research before they open up their big mouths.
Read and gain an education - positiveatheism(.)org/hist/quotes/lincoln.htm
@ivlfounder - There are multiple, redundant, non-derivative sources for those quotes that are legion throughout the web all confirming the same quotes.
Unless the only burden of prof that would satisfy you is to read it on a Fox News website or some Conservative Christian site, then first, you should concern yourself with the veracity OF the information, not the source.
The MOST common debate tactic used by the religious is to attempt to attack the speaker, rather than refute the information.
"[Niagara] calls up the indefinite past. When Columbus first sought this continent--when Christ suffered on the cross--when Moses led Israel through the Red-Sea--nay, even, when Adam first came from the hand of his Maker--then as now, Niagara was roaring here."
@ivlfounder - Like any American President, Lincoln knew that in order to be president, he'd have to be a Christian, so for appearance's sake, he would have to put on the appearance and go through the motions.
I was a biblical scholar/lecturer myself. I can pray like I'm on fire and use verbal flourishes that will bring tears to Christian eyes. But it's all just intellectual ability, prosaic eloquence and rhetorical ability with a touch of the theatrical. Lincoln was even better at it than me.
Athiests are dangerous hey? 98% of americas jails are filled with "believers" which leaves 2% as athiests. considering Athiests make up 17% of americans, that tells me that religious people are the dangerous ones. Maybe they were reading their bible for moral guidence and that's why they ended up in jail.
she should read out the statistics of religious people in jail... religion, as well as being an excuse for good deeds, can be an excuse for the exact opposite
If you don't think wide spread atheism in society is dangerous, just look at Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China, or any other "great society" built without religion.
@jogeryjogo Germany is doing great, Russia is self sustaining, China owns the US. I think Bush Raped America shows us the Dangers of Religion. You cannot win the argument that religion is needed for society. You only need it because of your fear of death and the meaningless of life. Everyone should read the bible, as with out a unifying force ones revelation is not much use to another. This god wrote the bible and we know god exist because the bible said so is kind of hokey. I wish it was true.
Dictatorship=religion, praising a overated individual controlling with an iron fist, all politics based on Ideology rather than reason.
Scandinavian countries do well without religion as well and has been for a long time. The world is bigger than you might think, get out of your bubble.
@mysterymediacorp The bible was used by the people who supported those ideas to convince the masses that its what god wanted. He was, metaphorically speaking, right in the thick of things. ^_^
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Oh whatever! I COMPLETELY agree with Monique Davis. By the way, atheists, don't even bother replying to my comment, because I honestly don't care what you have to say. Thanks all, and have a wonderful day.
@GrowInChrist That's very Christ-like of you. For someone supposedly "growing" in Christ, you don't seem all to familiar with his philosophy. How exactly are you "growing" in Christ? Through bigotry and misrepresentation of another groups position?
@GrowInChrist man read the whole book not just the shit you pastor shoves down your throat as fact. The god of the bible is freakin evil. Wake up and come to grips with the truth. Or are you afraid there is no god that we dont know what happens when we die and that no one is watching out for you. You might just not see your family and friends that die once you are gone. Religion is just a security blanket for adults that and they where brainwashed from a young age. sorry about the truth mate.
Probably the saddest part of an African American woman preaching that nonsense, is that the Bible clearly advocates slavery. Those particular passages of the Bible were even quoted by Southern politicians prior to the Civil War, to back up their right to own slaves.
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Olberman's opinion is so irrevelant, I can see why his ratings are so low. Republican's are racist blah blah blah, does anyone actually think this guy's jokes are funny? freedom of Religion isn't freedom from Religion.
For a journalist you should know that worses isn't really a word.Hell if you even write it in this youtube comment box spell checker will underline it.
They really twist and turn on this free-will thing, don't they? And even after centuries of trying to explain away these things, the arguments still make no sense. And some people seem to think that the more counterintuitive and illogical an idea is, the more profound it must be.
That would violate the First Amendment. If these things ARE dangerous to the US (Which they aren't), I doubt turning the US into some sort of Theocratic Nazi Germany is going to help anything at all.
How is free expression of religious beliefs- Or in this case, lack thereof- And the teaching of well-supported scientific theories dangerous? You're the one who is insane. The world is moving forward, and you want to take us one giant leap back. Atheism harms no one, though I will admit that SOME Atheists have done great harm, just like SOME Christians have done great harm as well.
If God is so good and great, then why can he not simply put an end to these bad things? Why do they even exsist in the first place? And if he is powerless to stop these things, or he simply does not want to, then why is he worth worshiping at all?
Bad things exist because we, as free-willed beings, brought them into existence. God is omnipotent but even omnipotence cannot (force you to do something freely), as that is a logical fallacy. With free will, our choices gain meaning, we are not mere machines, we are free agents. God even calls us "gods" at one point in the bible due to this very facet of our being.
If we have free will and are allowed to use it, then why does God expect our obedience? Why can he not simply look at our world, make our own decisions on how it works, and not let that affect our fate once we die? Really, it makes no sense if you think about it.
Because even with free-will, Good is still Good, and Evil is still Evil. We were given free-will, so we could decide, and that our decisions would have meaning. We are rewarded for Good, solely because we didn't HAVE to do good. We are punished for Evil, solely because we didn't HAVE to do evil, we CHOSE it.
And if you're asking why is there Good and Evil, it is because God has a mind, God has established perfect justice. He has established what is acceptable, and what is not.
Well here's the big thing- How do we even know the God you speak of exsists as all? A no, the Bible is NOT proof. I mean, why would you listen to something that doesn't even exist?
I have experienced God to be true in my own heart and life, and the bible makes it clear how to do the same for yourself. That is, how to experience God, and you can believe it, do it, and experience God as well. The only things stopping people are two things.
a) Inability to go all the way, say they were devout Christians when they utterly failed to give their all to Him, and
b) Inability to even give it a chance.
In addition, thousands of fulfilled prophecies. Like Daniel.
Can you list a few of those thousands of fulfilled prophecies? Something that's already happened, something specific (not "in those times people will be fighting each other and a lot of bad stuff will happen"), and something that hasn't been obviously retro-fitted?
Odd how the writer was able to get all the details, dialogue and everything, including Nebuchadnezzar's voice from the sky and psychotic break. I don't remember Jesus being a warlord. Did they prophesy anything that happened after the book was finalized? Aside from people getting smarter and fighting a lot and a lot of bad stuff happening, I mean.
Sorry, I did use a biased source. It's called the Bible.
Well, first off...it doesn't anything about Jesus being a warlord. At all. Not...at all. :\ So I don't even know where to begin...you're either lying, or referring to the wrong part of the book of daniel, which is talking about someone else.
So I have a choice.
I can labor with you for hours, correcting your mistakes until finally you reject the prophecy of daniel as impossible, even though it's been proven to be true, or I can...just not take you seriously.
@MorpheusOmikron Obviously you're unaware of the Ugaritic texts. The book of Daniel is found in Canaanite mythology predating the biblical 'account' by several centuries. The text of Daniel is a near identical copy of Ugarit's Dan'l. In other words, the Hebrews 'borrowed' the story from a neighbouring culture - it certainly wasn't the first time they'd done this (ie Genesis, Deut, Proverbs, Psalms, etc). So, discussion of any supposed prophetic nuances seems a bit moot. Quite ridiculous really.
@MorpheusOmikron You're a religious nut, the most dangerous kind of nut. You ignore the shitty parts of your own religion, you don't even follow all the rules set down in your holy book, but you don't want to step up to the plate and do what the bible says you MUST do to nonbelievers.
@MorpheusOmikron Well, sir, I think you should just take it upon yourself to follow the word of that just and forgiving god you think so highly of. Just gather your congregation, and stone to death anyone who blasphemes - just like it says in Leviticus 24:16.
Don't make it illegal, you hypocrite, you MUST do as the bible commands and kill all nonbelievers! By throwing stones at them!
It's fascinating. I find that religious fanatics everywhere hate and fear atheists far more than they do people of other faiths. I guess rationality and skepticism are dangerous things to religion.
@AcePilot101 the bible also says "look and you will find" dont supose this could be extended to mean: "look for a god and you will find one (even though he isnt there)"?
What are you even talking about??? Maybe you should spend less time azzkhickin' and more time thinking before you open your mouth and demonstrate your stupidity!
@azzkhicker "i think she's right..atheists are dangerous with no brain for rules"
Sorry, but I choose not to follow inane rules passed down from bronze age goat herders. I'm sure you, on the other hand, are a good little rule follower, which eliminates the necessity of higher order brain functions. Lucky for you!
I was brought up Roman Catholic and willingly progressed to atheism because its philosophy wasn't dripping with the stench of bullshit like the bible, and this lady somehow thinks my philosophy is dangerous! The only people who are REALLY christians are the fundamentalist retards who are the real root of all evil. Casual and moderate christians are just closet atheits who, luckily, are joing in the atheist movement like myself! The whole world will be a FAR better place without religion!
Hell is a vile, abusive, disgusting concept. God buys love & loyalty with torture? A Gandhi, Teresa, Mandela would never think of torturing their enemies, whereas a Saddam, Hitler, Stalin would. This is the company that God keeps? Karma & Rebirth is the better, non-violent way. You are not punished, nor are you simply forgiven because you groveled enough. The most important aspect of Karma is that you are held accountable for your actions, you are reborn, given another chance to make amends.
* Leviticus 25:45-46 "Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, . . . and they shall be your possession . . . they shall be your bondmen forever." * Genesis 9:25 "And he [Noah] said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren."
Here th bible clearly condones slavery.. Now this is the same bible and god she's advocating for...im black and that's a slap in the fucking face
An African American woman, one of the most discriminated against beings on the planet.
IRONY?
I have a dream today.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by their lack of a belief in a deity, but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today.
That bad Christians someday will not demonize good Atheists.
I have a dream that along with racism all religions die. FUCK RELIGION!"
Well, I agree with you on the discrimination because of skin color and or faith, one should be judged on the basis of character rather than that. However, I myself wouldn't go as far as to saying screw all religion. Religion has been corupted and isn't what it is supposed to mean anymore.
@AntEyeTheist lol thats funny cause im irish! i agree, but good men do bad all the time without the help of religion. i just think that its a little more complicated than religion is bad. i mean people, in my city, of my religion feed the hungry and health care to the sick and we have at least one homeless shelter. that doesnt sound so bad. but i agree people can use religion for bad as much for as good.
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@jerico641 Because of some of the sexist remarks he has made about Carrie Prejean, all because she doesn't believe in gay marriage. So maybe she isn't the brightest bulb of them all, however, that doesn't mean that she deserves to be harassed and bashed by these media all because of what her religion teaches her, isn't that a form of prejudice? He never debates an opposing view but rather bashes them and only interviews democrats. He contradicts himself, and he is only talk.
Well, I know that he was very angry with Prejean, and I remember him saying some pretty stern things regarding her behavior; but I honestly don't remember anything sexist in his segment on her. Also, he believes (as I do) that this openly negative attitude toward gay marriage is hateful and bigoted, and he probably does have a short fuse when it comes to this subject. I also honestly haven't seen him contradict himself yet but yes, he does leave most of the confrontations to Chris Matthews.
@jerico641 Let me give you an example. He and this person he was interviewing made a comment about getting laid with her, that she needs to just get laid because thats all she is good for. He contradicted himself when he said that their is no liberal media but only a right media. He forgets the GE owns his MSNBC and that the CEO of GE Jeffory Immelt is a far leftist who is an economic advisor to Obama, and is also benifiting from the administartion.
I hear Toccata and Fugue in D minor playing. Weird.
It's a shame so many people feel the way Monique does and think atheists are a bunch of evil destructive devils. Maybe we are. We're trying to make our world more fair and equal and under a religious system this is impossible.
Based upon Lincoln's own writings, his status as a deist and an agnostic are pretty certain. He even made statements indicating his rejection of Christianity. The same can be said for many of the Founding Fathers.
Lincoln's big quote about the bible not being his book does not mean he is an atheist. He believed in a god, but not one from a religion. Many of his speeches during the civil war talked about god. He once said a man who would look up at the sky and say there is no god is a fool.
I am an atheists and I don't agree with his quote, but I will still say he was a great guy.
Monique Davis is an insult to the countless freethinkers (atheist, deist, agnostics) who bravely fought for womens rights and the abolishment of slavery. If they hadnt criticized religion and the priesthood, shed still be in chains.
Unfortunately, her ideas are broadly held amongst theists, and who are never curbed until societies reach the tipping point where the non-religious are both numerous (25%) and vocal enough to say enough is enough to religious bigotry.
"he reffered to her as an "insignificant sourpuss""
He referred to HIM as an "insignificant sourpuss," you mean. It's well established fact that Ann Coulter is a man in drag. Look at that Adam's apple. How transvestites somehow represent conservative values in the eyes of NeoCons just goes to show you how screwed up they are.
"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures have become clearer and stronger with advancing years, and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."
Why did she have to be from Illinois and a Democrat? Ugh, A double-whammy of shame for me...
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Atheism is responsible for the slaughter of over 200 milion innocent people in the last 100 years alone. Thta's 1 world trade center per day per 10 years. All of the murderous dictatiors in history were adherents to the religion of atheism.
afar1 3 months ago
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afar1 3 months ago
I wouldn't call her the worst person, just a really dumb one.
nIxNuZ 6 months ago
Atheists aren't a hivemind. Being prejudiced and dehumanizing people is dangerous. That is what causes people to stop treat others like human beings.
QueenAnime99 6 months ago
If you listen without looking, he kind of sounds like Martin Mull.
5jerry1 7 months ago
Lincoln an atheist?
LOL tell me another one.
ivlfounder 1 year ago
@ivlfounder Not an atheist by todays definition. But if you brought him back from the past he'd side with the atheists rather than the religious.
xn117 1 year ago
@ivlfounder - There's always ignorant and smug people like you who don't know what they're talking about and don't do the research before they open up their big mouths.
Read and gain an education - positiveatheism(.)org/hist/quotes/lincoln.htm
morpheusxnyc 10 months ago
@morpheusxnyc
Speaking of ignorant and smug you have a lot of nerve to cite a well known source of disinformation and fake quotes.
Try reading original documents before you bother to contact me again.
ivlfounder 10 months ago
@ivlfounder - Are you denying that those quotes are from Lincoln because they're on a site you don't like?
Fine here are some neutral sites with the same quotes:
quotationspage(.)com/quotes/Abraham_Lincoln/
thinkexist(.)com/quotation/i_care_not_for_a_man-s_religion_whose_dog_and_cat/156546.html
morpheusxnyc 10 months ago
@morpheusxnyc
No I'm saying I don't trust any quote list on the net who's author is so lazy he doesn't even bother to make sure all the quotes are real.
Or do these authors know some of the quotes are fakes and think it's cool to continue promoting them?
Either way they're pathetic.
ivlfounder 10 months ago
@ivlfounder - There are multiple, redundant, non-derivative sources for those quotes that are legion throughout the web all confirming the same quotes.
Unless the only burden of prof that would satisfy you is to read it on a Fox News website or some Conservative Christian site, then first, you should concern yourself with the veracity OF the information, not the source.
The MOST common debate tactic used by the religious is to attempt to attack the speaker, rather than refute the information.
morpheusxnyc 10 months ago
@morpheusxnyc
"[Niagara] calls up the indefinite past. When Columbus first sought this continent--when Christ suffered on the cross--when Moses led Israel through the Red-Sea--nay, even, when Adam first came from the hand of his Maker--then as now, Niagara was roaring here."
This is a real Lincoln quote.
Unlike some people's.
ivlfounder 10 months ago
@ivlfounder - Like any American President, Lincoln knew that in order to be president, he'd have to be a Christian, so for appearance's sake, he would have to put on the appearance and go through the motions.
I was a biblical scholar/lecturer myself. I can pray like I'm on fire and use verbal flourishes that will bring tears to Christian eyes. But it's all just intellectual ability, prosaic eloquence and rhetorical ability with a touch of the theatrical. Lincoln was even better at it than me.
morpheusxnyc 10 months ago
@morpheusxnyc
That quote does not come from a public statement but from his private writings.
ivlfounder 10 months ago
Athiests are dangerous hey? 98% of americas jails are filled with "believers" which leaves 2% as athiests. considering Athiests make up 17% of americans, that tells me that religious people are the dangerous ones. Maybe they were reading their bible for moral guidence and that's why they ended up in jail.
shanodude 1 year ago
she should read out the statistics of religious people in jail... religion, as well as being an excuse for good deeds, can be an excuse for the exact opposite
raging4lcoholic 1 year ago
If you don't think wide spread atheism in society is dangerous, just look at Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, Communist China, or any other "great society" built without religion.
jogeryjogo 1 year ago
@jogeryjogo Germany is doing great, Russia is self sustaining, China owns the US. I think Bush Raped America shows us the Dangers of Religion. You cannot win the argument that religion is needed for society. You only need it because of your fear of death and the meaningless of life. Everyone should read the bible, as with out a unifying force ones revelation is not much use to another. This god wrote the bible and we know god exist because the bible said so is kind of hokey. I wish it was true.
drwalepen15 1 year ago
@jogeryjogo Huh?!?! The Nazis were CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or so they claimed. Biggest murderers in history.
jordu1 1 year ago
@jogeryjogo
Dictatorship=religion, praising a overated individual controlling with an iron fist, all politics based on Ideology rather than reason.
Scandinavian countries do well without religion as well and has been for a long time. The world is bigger than you might think, get out of your bubble.
ensittare 1 year ago 9
@jogeryjogo False. They were build apon the foundations of religion, leader worship, myths and legends.
xn117 1 year ago
@xn117
Your fantasy is a fantasy not a fact.
ivlfounder 1 year ago
@ivlfounder And your fantasy is of facts?
Fuck off, please.
xn117 1 year ago
@xn117
oh boo hoo the the mean old man started to swear and confirmed what I already suspected.
ivlfounder 1 year ago
First amendment violation much?
vacuumbrand 1 year ago
someone should have asked that lady where was god during slavery & the holocaust
mysterymediacorp 1 year ago
@mysterymediacorp The bible was used by the people who supported those ideas to convince the masses that its what god wanted. He was, metaphorically speaking, right in the thick of things. ^_^
Ni73sh4d3 8 months ago
As they say back where I come from "the bitch is crazy."
jezmundberserker 1 year ago
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Oh whatever! I COMPLETELY agree with Monique Davis. By the way, atheists, don't even bother replying to my comment, because I honestly don't care what you have to say. Thanks all, and have a wonderful day.
GrowInChrist 1 year ago
@GrowInChrist That's very Christ-like of you. For someone supposedly "growing" in Christ, you don't seem all to familiar with his philosophy. How exactly are you "growing" in Christ? Through bigotry and misrepresentation of another groups position?
johngeetar 1 year ago
@johngeetar: He's got a growing hard-on for christ. And their belief system is so weak that they dare not discuss it.
jezmundberserker 1 year ago
@GrowInChrist man read the whole book not just the shit you pastor shoves down your throat as fact. The god of the bible is freakin evil. Wake up and come to grips with the truth. Or are you afraid there is no god that we dont know what happens when we die and that no one is watching out for you. You might just not see your family and friends that die once you are gone. Religion is just a security blanket for adults that and they where brainwashed from a young age. sorry about the truth mate.
party489 1 year ago
Probably the saddest part of an African American woman preaching that nonsense, is that the Bible clearly advocates slavery. Those particular passages of the Bible were even quoted by Southern politicians prior to the Civil War, to back up their right to own slaves.
LockeXIII 1 year ago
@LockeXIII: Why stop at slavery? It also advocates genocide.
jezmundberserker 1 year ago
olbermann is such a fool. He makes oreilly look like lincoln.
Ninjadelusion 1 year ago
what a idiot, Ms. Davis needs her mouth sewn shut.
diabloblanco0819 1 year ago
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Olberman's opinion is so irrevelant, I can see why his ratings are so low. Republican's are racist blah blah blah, does anyone actually think this guy's jokes are funny? freedom of Religion isn't freedom from Religion.
coolguy98 1 year ago
@coolguy98 "freedom of religion isn't freedom from religion" Umm...yes it is.
ms9809 1 year ago
@coolguy98 I'm waiting...what do you have to say for yourself coolguy?
ms9809 1 year ago
@coolguy98: It is freedom from religion.
jezmundberserker 1 year ago
For a journalist you should know that worses isn't really a word.Hell if you even write it in this youtube comment box spell checker will underline it.
MeetYourMeaker 1 year ago
@MeetYourMeaker
I think that was deliberate
ourhandsaretied 1 year ago
just why are christians (and by extension, most religious people) so hateful?
pwiattitto 1 year ago 3
@pwiattitto There are not so much hateful, but fearful. Fearful that atheists are right and there is no god.
nyBrit 1 year ago 5
Words are dangerous things lol
iAMsoBEAST1 1 year ago
Just follow the Godwin Law of Debates/Conversations.
The first one to use the old argument of the Nazis automatically loses.
SciBishop 1 year ago
They really twist and turn on this free-will thing, don't they? And even after centuries of trying to explain away these things, the arguments still make no sense. And some people seem to think that the more counterintuitive and illogical an idea is, the more profound it must be.
tctheunbeliever 1 year ago
only christians can be this stupid
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MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago 38
@MorpheusOmikron
That would violate the First Amendment. If these things ARE dangerous to the US (Which they aren't), I doubt turning the US into some sort of Theocratic Nazi Germany is going to help anything at all.
YoshiTheBlue 1 year ago
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MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago 5
@MorpheusOmikron
How is free expression of religious beliefs- Or in this case, lack thereof- And the teaching of well-supported scientific theories dangerous? You're the one who is insane. The world is moving forward, and you want to take us one giant leap back. Atheism harms no one, though I will admit that SOME Atheists have done great harm, just like SOME Christians have done great harm as well.
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MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago 28
@MorpheusOmikron
If God is so good and great, then why can he not simply put an end to these bad things? Why do they even exsist in the first place? And if he is powerless to stop these things, or he simply does not want to, then why is he worth worshiping at all?
YoshiTheBlue 1 year ago
@YoshiTheBlue
Bad things exist because we, as free-willed beings, brought them into existence. God is omnipotent but even omnipotence cannot (force you to do something freely), as that is a logical fallacy. With free will, our choices gain meaning, we are not mere machines, we are free agents. God even calls us "gods" at one point in the bible due to this very facet of our being.
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago 2
@MorpheusOmikron
If we have free will and are allowed to use it, then why does God expect our obedience? Why can he not simply look at our world, make our own decisions on how it works, and not let that affect our fate once we die? Really, it makes no sense if you think about it.
YoshiTheBlue 1 year ago
@YoshiTheBlue
Because even with free-will, Good is still Good, and Evil is still Evil. We were given free-will, so we could decide, and that our decisions would have meaning. We are rewarded for Good, solely because we didn't HAVE to do good. We are punished for Evil, solely because we didn't HAVE to do evil, we CHOSE it.
And if you're asking why is there Good and Evil, it is because God has a mind, God has established perfect justice. He has established what is acceptable, and what is not.
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron
Well here's the big thing- How do we even know the God you speak of exsists as all? A no, the Bible is NOT proof. I mean, why would you listen to something that doesn't even exist?
YoshiTheBlue 1 year ago
@YoshiTheBlue
I have experienced God to be true in my own heart and life, and the bible makes it clear how to do the same for yourself. That is, how to experience God, and you can believe it, do it, and experience God as well. The only things stopping people are two things.
a) Inability to go all the way, say they were devout Christians when they utterly failed to give their all to Him, and
b) Inability to even give it a chance.
In addition, thousands of fulfilled prophecies. Like Daniel.
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron
Can you list a few of those thousands of fulfilled prophecies? Something that's already happened, something specific (not "in those times people will be fighting each other and a lot of bad stuff will happen"), and something that hasn't been obviously retro-fitted?
tctheunbeliever 1 year ago
@tctheunbeliever
Prophecy of danial, the prophecies about the Messiah's attributes, where he'd be born, etc.
But look into the prophecy of Danial. From an unbiased source, please.
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron
I assume you mean Daniel.
Odd how the writer was able to get all the details, dialogue and everything, including Nebuchadnezzar's voice from the sky and psychotic break. I don't remember Jesus being a warlord. Did they prophesy anything that happened after the book was finalized? Aside from people getting smarter and fighting a lot and a lot of bad stuff happening, I mean.
Sorry, I did use a biased source. It's called the Bible.
tctheunbeliever 1 year ago
@tctheunbeliever
Huh. Yeah, you read it wrong....but I guess you would, wouldn't you...
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron
I must have the gift of prophecy, cuz I just knew you'd say that.
WORSHIP MEEEEE!!!
tctheunbeliever 1 year ago
@tctheunbeliever
Well, first off...it doesn't anything about Jesus being a warlord. At all. Not...at all. :\ So I don't even know where to begin...you're either lying, or referring to the wrong part of the book of daniel, which is talking about someone else.
So I have a choice.
I can labor with you for hours, correcting your mistakes until finally you reject the prophecy of daniel as impossible, even though it's been proven to be true, or I can...just not take you seriously.
:\ Which one.
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron Obviously you're unaware of the Ugaritic texts. The book of Daniel is found in Canaanite mythology predating the biblical 'account' by several centuries. The text of Daniel is a near identical copy of Ugarit's Dan'l. In other words, the Hebrews 'borrowed' the story from a neighbouring culture - it certainly wasn't the first time they'd done this (ie Genesis, Deut, Proverbs, Psalms, etc). So, discussion of any supposed prophetic nuances seems a bit moot. Quite ridiculous really.
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MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron You're a religious nut, the most dangerous kind of nut. You ignore the shitty parts of your own religion, you don't even follow all the rules set down in your holy book, but you don't want to step up to the plate and do what the bible says you MUST do to nonbelievers.
You're a terrorist that hasn't acted yet.
Ebzhent 1 year ago
@Ebzhent
lol
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron Wow, win for you! Removing your comments means you won by default, right? Idiot.
Ebzhent 1 year ago
@Ebzhent
Yes. I "win". Lol. XD
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
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MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron Well, sir, I think you should just take it upon yourself to follow the word of that just and forgiving god you think so highly of. Just gather your congregation, and stone to death anyone who blasphemes - just like it says in Leviticus 24:16.
Don't make it illegal, you hypocrite, you MUST do as the bible commands and kill all nonbelievers! By throwing stones at them!
Ebzhent 1 year ago
It's fascinating. I find that religious fanatics everywhere hate and fear atheists far more than they do people of other faiths. I guess rationality and skepticism are dangerous things to religion.
DandAinTac 1 year ago
Atheism IS dangerous. This guy is a moron and I applaud Monique Davis.
MorpheusOmikron 1 year ago
@MorpheusOmikron
how many atheists blow clinics and kill doctors,
or Bomb buildings?
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago 4
@MorpheusOmikron
Methinks thou dost protest to much!
incredulous007 1 year ago
A fool says in his heart, there is no God (Psalm 14).
No God, no truth just chaos.
AcePilot101 1 year ago
@AcePilot101 the bible also says "look and you will find" dont supose this could be extended to mean: "look for a god and you will find one (even though he isnt there)"?
666valhalonia666 1 year ago
@666valhalonia666 i love reading bible quotes that contradict religion
144mtl441 1 year ago
this video is one example that atheist are IDIOT's.....
azzkhicker 1 year ago
@azzkhicker
What are you even talking about??? Maybe you should spend less time azzkhickin' and more time thinking before you open your mouth and demonstrate your stupidity!
incredulous007 1 year ago
@incredulous007 and your agnostic in everything...
azzkhicker 1 year ago 11
i think she's right..atheists are dangerous with no brain for rules...
azzkhicker 1 year ago
@azzkhicker "i think she's right..atheists are dangerous with no brain for rules"
Sorry, but I choose not to follow inane rules passed down from bronze age goat herders. I'm sure you, on the other hand, are a good little rule follower, which eliminates the necessity of higher order brain functions. Lucky for you!
incredulous007 1 year ago
@azzkhicker What rules?
EPR89 1 year ago
I was brought up Roman Catholic and willingly progressed to atheism because its philosophy wasn't dripping with the stench of bullshit like the bible, and this lady somehow thinks my philosophy is dangerous! The only people who are REALLY christians are the fundamentalist retards who are the real root of all evil. Casual and moderate christians are just closet atheits who, luckily, are joing in the atheist movement like myself! The whole world will be a FAR better place without religion!
TheAlexander356 1 year ago 2
I normally don't agree with keith, but I would definitely side with him on this one. fucking bigot woman!
MetalMario03 1 year ago
More like biggest dumbass of the moment.
MethodicalMadness 1 year ago
lacrymologyst is an atheist that supports NAMBLA.hE ONCE TOLD A GUY THAT HE WOULD"F--K HIS KIDS IN THE ASS"
namtesyalp 1 year ago
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one democrat that needs to be re-elected.you go sista,white atheist are part of the reason black teens go to jail or get shot
namtesyalp 2 years ago
it figures you would admire another bigot like yourself.
lacrymologyst 1 year ago
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Hell is a vile, abusive, disgusting concept. God buys love & loyalty with torture? A Gandhi, Teresa, Mandela would never think of torturing their enemies, whereas a Saddam, Hitler, Stalin would. This is the company that God keeps? Karma & Rebirth is the better, non-violent way. You are not punished, nor are you simply forgiven because you groveled enough. The most important aspect of Karma is that you are held accountable for your actions, you are reborn, given another chance to make amends.
ramaraksha01 2 years ago
Bralidiroe makes a good point... Why do african-americans embrace the Bible and the Quran when both texts allow the ownership of human beings?
padraigomairtin 2 years ago 10
@padraigomairtin Wow, good point O_O
JuanchoMan 2 years ago
@padraigomairtin I tell women and gays the same thing, I say the bible was not made for you, it's made for men, and obviously written by men.
chrissanchez777 8 months ago
@padraigomairtin Hypocrits.
Dandramere 7 months ago
* Leviticus 25:45-46 "Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, . . . and they shall be your possession . . . they shall be your bondmen forever." * Genesis 9:25 "And he [Noah] said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren."
Here th bible clearly condones slavery.. Now this is the same bible and god she's advocating for...im black and that's a slap in the fucking face
Bralidiroe 2 years ago 4
"I know someone just like her.
An African American woman, one of the most discriminated against beings on the planet.
IRONY?
I have a dream today.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by their lack of a belief in a deity, but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today.
That bad Christians someday will not demonize good Atheists.
I have a dream that along with racism all religions die. FUCK RELIGION!"
AntEyeTheist 2 years ago 44
Well, I agree with you on the discrimination because of skin color and or faith, one should be judged on the basis of character rather than that. However, I myself wouldn't go as far as to saying screw all religion. Religion has been corupted and isn't what it is supposed to mean anymore.
LordoftheKaty 2 years ago
@AntEyeTheist wouldnt good atheists respect the beliefs of the "good" people of faith?
tdrobar 1 year ago
@tdrobar Would you respect someone’s belief in a Leprechaun?
I respect good people and I try not to let their beliefs get in the way.
Good men do good and bad men do bad, only with religion will good men do bad.
AntEyeTheist 1 year ago
@AntEyeTheist lol thats funny cause im irish! i agree, but good men do bad all the time without the help of religion. i just think that its a little more complicated than religion is bad. i mean people, in my city, of my religion feed the hungry and health care to the sick and we have at least one homeless shelter. that doesnt sound so bad. but i agree people can use religion for bad as much for as good.
tdrobar 1 year ago
as an atheist, this only makes me a better atheist
DRiPPz6800 2 years ago 4
5 stars!
briandecree 2 years ago 3
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And World's Worst bigot and sexist goes to Keith Olbermann.
LordoftheKaty 2 years ago
Just curious; why do you believe he deserves that?
jerico641 2 years ago
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@jerico641 Because of some of the sexist remarks he has made about Carrie Prejean, all because she doesn't believe in gay marriage. So maybe she isn't the brightest bulb of them all, however, that doesn't mean that she deserves to be harassed and bashed by these media all because of what her religion teaches her, isn't that a form of prejudice? He never debates an opposing view but rather bashes them and only interviews democrats. He contradicts himself, and he is only talk.
LordoftheKaty 2 years ago
Well, I know that he was very angry with Prejean, and I remember him saying some pretty stern things regarding her behavior; but I honestly don't remember anything sexist in his segment on her. Also, he believes (as I do) that this openly negative attitude toward gay marriage is hateful and bigoted, and he probably does have a short fuse when it comes to this subject. I also honestly haven't seen him contradict himself yet but yes, he does leave most of the confrontations to Chris Matthews.
jerico641 2 years ago
@jerico641 Let me give you an example. He and this person he was interviewing made a comment about getting laid with her, that she needs to just get laid because thats all she is good for. He contradicted himself when he said that their is no liberal media but only a right media. He forgets the GE owns his MSNBC and that the CEO of GE Jeffory Immelt is a far leftist who is an economic advisor to Obama, and is also benifiting from the administartion.
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padraigomairtin 2 years ago
I hear Toccata and Fugue in D minor playing. Weird.
It's a shame so many people feel the way Monique does and think atheists are a bunch of evil destructive devils. Maybe we are. We're trying to make our world more fair and equal and under a religious system this is impossible.
ScaryCannibalTrout1 2 years ago
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keith gets annoying
marmosetmage 2 years ago
man, i hate Bill O
HRRyan2 2 years ago 7
Based upon Lincoln's own writings, his status as a deist and an agnostic are pretty certain. He even made statements indicating his rejection of Christianity. The same can be said for many of the Founding Fathers.
SayYesToReason 2 years ago 26
Lincoln was a deist with strong agnostic tendencies.
dmfahey 2 years ago 8
I'm pretty sure Lincoln was a deist.
WigglesThePirate 2 years ago 9
Most of our founding fathers were deist.
mosniper831 2 years ago 9
You mean "fondling fathers."
timboslayer 2 years ago 3
Lincoln's big quote about the bible not being his book does not mean he is an atheist. He believed in a god, but not one from a religion. Many of his speeches during the civil war talked about god. He once said a man who would look up at the sky and say there is no god is a fool.
I am an atheists and I don't agree with his quote, but I will still say he was a great guy.
mikeJRthe2nd 2 years ago 3
wow this guy has no lips.
nicwhat4 2 years ago
Thanks Keith!
bluehoneycomb 2 years ago 7
Wow I'm a fervent Democrat but I would even vote for a republican against Davis.
sillysp8 2 years ago 6
what a cunt
villeppi 2 years ago 2
I like this guy alot.
bowlingforbeers 3 years ago
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well of course davis is just that stupid - she's a woman
duh
blueshirt12 3 years ago
Monique Davis is an insult to the countless freethinkers (atheist, deist, agnostics) who bravely fought for womens rights and the abolishment of slavery. If they hadnt criticized religion and the priesthood, shed still be in chains.
Her vile rant shows she isnt fit for office.
Godlesscod 3 years ago 14
Keith Olbermann = the man for being objective
FeralCr 3 years ago 5
Davis is an ignorant and intolerant cunt.
Unfortunately, her ideas are broadly held amongst theists, and who are never curbed until societies reach the tipping point where the non-religious are both numerous (25%) and vocal enough to say enough is enough to religious bigotry.
seathanaich 3 years ago 13
"he reffered to her as an "insignificant sourpuss""
He referred to HIM as an "insignificant sourpuss," you mean. It's well established fact that Ann Coulter is a man in drag. Look at that Adam's apple. How transvestites somehow represent conservative values in the eyes of NeoCons just goes to show you how screwed up they are.
CadicusTheDamned 3 years ago 4
No, to be described as a man in drag, you would have to be human first.
fc007 3 years ago
Touche. That's a good point. The fact that Coulter might actually be a Martian explains a lot.
CadicusTheDamned 3 years ago
lol, one eats babies perhaps.
fc007 3 years ago
Fuck yes Lincoln, fuck yes!
pyroclasm32 3 years ago
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monique davis cant be worst person cause she is a democrat
billiefan2000 3 years ago
"monique davis cant be worst person cause she is a democrat"
oh gawd.... please....
Just because the neo-cons have the worst track record doesn't mean the dems don't have a growing share of loonies and war mongerng bigots as well.
Both the two major parties have gone into the shit hole.
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago 8
"The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."
- Abraham Lincoln
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago 14
Someone dig up Lincoln and nominate him for president
superkid12345 3 years ago 13
"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures have become clearer and stronger with advancing years, and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."
- Abraham Lincoln
freedom0f5peech 3 years ago 11