please help me ! when i install some apps in nokia 5530 xm for example talking tom , after successfully downloading . smart installer proceeds the installation and after some time the installation is automatically cancelled and the smart installer icon appears in the menu , clicking that icon does the same installation starts and '' downloading 1 of 5 appears but automatically installation cancels.. sorry For my extremely bad english but pls reply !
@saad6626 it is difficult to say what happens there, but if you are willing to investigate this, here's what you should do: Install a file manager app that shows you the full file system, then create a directory called c:\logs\ADM
Now install the app again (or start SI from menu icon) and let it try to install until it cancels. Once SI execution completed, go back to that directory and collect the log file you find inside. Post them on pastebin.com and put link here.
10MB of data can take too much time to download via usual GPRS/EDGE connection. When I was using EDGE phone as modem to connect my pc to internet, the max. speed I managed to reach was 20kbyte / second. It will take abot 10 minutes to download QT on that speed. But that was max speed and that was EDGE. GPRS is even slower.
@scpmr You are right of course, that's why all apps using it in the Ovi Store recommend downloading over WLAN. And of course you only have to do it once. Hopefully the networks will improve in time everywhere as well, over 3G the experience is not bad at all.
@ltomuta If when installing the app, the phone is connected to the PC using OVI Suite (or PC suite) , will QT be downloaded via that computer's internet connection? Or the phone will still use wireless connection to download QT?
@scpmr Even in this cases the download will be done through WLAN/3G, not through cable. In the future it is expected that Ovi Suite will be able to perform the same job as the Smart Installer and deliver the missing components to your phone, but for now this is not possible.
@ltomuta Yes. It would be good if SmartInstaller were a little smarter. It'd be good if Smart Installer could detect if the phone is connected to the PC, and used computer's internet connection to install or update QT in that case.
Because nobody's going to wait 10 - 20 minutes to install an app via EDGE/GPRS, even if you have to wait for so long only once. Here, where I live, in Moscow, Russia, 3G is not widespread yet. Although cable broadband internet is widespread and cheap.
@benzmaybach Precisely because apt-get is not available and you need a solution like that in order to ensure that you don't download always 10MB of data when you only need 5KB for your application.
We are open for suggestions, maybe you can help us create a better solution. You can post your comments here, at Forum Nokia or at the Symbian Foundation.
@ltomuta Hi, sorry no offensive here, but i do think this one is too techie here. Think of this, if your daughter wants a game, does she wants know "oh, yes, i also need to install other 5 'packages' to run this game"? of course she doesn't. she just want to see the game is installed and runs.
technology is only good when it doesn't make your life complicated. too many options like "yes" or "no" are not good options. like you can see on Android and iPhone, even bada. You just download the app.
@benzmaybach Valid question. But we have to also think about the realities of life and the reality is that the data plans (if available) are expensive and many users are quite careful with what they do with their data quota. Yes, the prompt is annoying and we could remove it and the progress dialog as well but that requires a bit of thinking in order to make it work for all users.
There's also a question of flexibility. On iPhone there are no prompts, but there are no options either.
please help me ! when i install some apps in nokia 5530 xm for example talking tom , after successfully downloading . smart installer proceeds the installation and after some time the installation is automatically cancelled and the smart installer icon appears in the menu , clicking that icon does the same installation starts and '' downloading 1 of 5 appears but automatically installation cancels.. sorry For my extremely bad english but pls reply !
saad6626 3 weeks ago
@saad6626 it is difficult to say what happens there, but if you are willing to investigate this, here's what you should do: Install a file manager app that shows you the full file system, then create a directory called c:\logs\ADM
Now install the app again (or start SI from menu icon) and let it try to install until it cancels. Once SI execution completed, go back to that directory and collect the log file you find inside. Post them on pastebin.com and put link here.
ltomuta 3 weeks ago
10MB of data can take too much time to download via usual GPRS/EDGE connection. When I was using EDGE phone as modem to connect my pc to internet, the max. speed I managed to reach was 20kbyte / second. It will take abot 10 minutes to download QT on that speed. But that was max speed and that was EDGE. GPRS is even slower.
scpmr 8 months ago
@scpmr You are right of course, that's why all apps using it in the Ovi Store recommend downloading over WLAN. And of course you only have to do it once. Hopefully the networks will improve in time everywhere as well, over 3G the experience is not bad at all.
ltomuta 8 months ago
@ltomuta If when installing the app, the phone is connected to the PC using OVI Suite (or PC suite) , will QT be downloaded via that computer's internet connection? Or the phone will still use wireless connection to download QT?
scpmr 8 months ago
@scpmr Even in this cases the download will be done through WLAN/3G, not through cable. In the future it is expected that Ovi Suite will be able to perform the same job as the Smart Installer and deliver the missing components to your phone, but for now this is not possible.
ltomuta 8 months ago
@ltomuta Yes. It would be good if SmartInstaller were a little smarter. It'd be good if Smart Installer could detect if the phone is connected to the PC, and used computer's internet connection to install or update QT in that case.
Because nobody's going to wait 10 - 20 minutes to install an app via EDGE/GPRS, even if you have to wait for so long only once. Here, where I live, in Moscow, Russia, 3G is not widespread yet. Although cable broadband internet is widespread and cheap.
scpmr 8 months ago
cool music :-D Who is the singer ?
thomasluquet 1 year ago
cool music :-D
thomasluquet 1 year ago
Very informative. I feel it is not a bad idea to push Qt by device updates.
dathathreya123 1 year ago
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benzmaybach 1 year ago
@benzmaybach Precisely because apt-get is not available and you need a solution like that in order to ensure that you don't download always 10MB of data when you only need 5KB for your application.
We are open for suggestions, maybe you can help us create a better solution. You can post your comments here, at Forum Nokia or at the Symbian Foundation.
ltomuta 1 year ago
@ltomuta Hi, sorry no offensive here, but i do think this one is too techie here. Think of this, if your daughter wants a game, does she wants know "oh, yes, i also need to install other 5 'packages' to run this game"? of course she doesn't. she just want to see the game is installed and runs.
technology is only good when it doesn't make your life complicated. too many options like "yes" or "no" are not good options. like you can see on Android and iPhone, even bada. You just download the app.
benzmaybach 1 year ago
@benzmaybach Valid question. But we have to also think about the realities of life and the reality is that the data plans (if available) are expensive and many users are quite careful with what they do with their data quota. Yes, the prompt is annoying and we could remove it and the progress dialog as well but that requires a bit of thinking in order to make it work for all users.
There's also a question of flexibility. On iPhone there are no prompts, but there are no options either.
ltomuta 1 year ago
well done man. good vid
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IamNiiTeiko 1 year ago
@IamNiiTeiko Thanks Nii-Teiko ;)
ltomuta 1 year ago