im looking into getting a 2003-2004 gt or svt, and kb supercharger, whats the max psi i can run it at with stock internals? or what hp? im new to this, and i want to get around 380hp total, and kb sc system, but what do i need to upgrade much for it to work without any problems?
nice cobra, i always loved cobras,this is nice one
termi would be great, but thats if I could find one, most likely a gt, it would be nice to have 4v in gt though, or even better, terminator,looks as if im going to go built gt route
i knew i recognized this car man!! whats going on!? i decided to look for youtube videos of the mustang i wish i had considering i was driving mine today and coming the other way was a blacked out loud 03/04 cobra
Nice vid man, that sucks about the belt slip but glad you got it fixed. I'm looking into a 2.2l kb, be about 600 rwhp, thats more than enough for me and the streets :) nice car, i love that sonic blue.
Thanks man, but why not go with a 2.6 or 2.8? You never know if you'll wanna go faster someday... Most people get bored from running the same power over a period of time. You can still have your 600 rwhp, but its good to know your supercharger has a lot more potential from a simple pulley swap. lol But if you do get that 2.2, your car is gonna SCREAM!!! Haha that's the beauty of those 2.2 and 2.4 KB's.
I've just been waiting for the right deal to come along, now a days with everybody upgrading to the big blowers I can pick up a 2.2 for ~$1800-2k (didn't have money at that time though dammit) and plus from what I've heard 650-700 rwhp on the street is really hard to hook up. I know I'll want more though, heck I want to skip the port go right with KB lol. Plus with the bigger blowers pushing 700 you have to start upgrading other stuff. Like the t-56 or the IRS. Not necessarily but ya should.
Yeah thats true. Going with the 2.2 is a good idea for the power you want for now. And if the time comes when you want more power, you can always sell it and get a bigger one. And the tranny is one thing I need to upgrade. Im surprised it hasnt broke on me yet. lol
And I'll tell you something: 600 rwhp will NOT hook up on the street AT ALL on street tires. You need DRs. I can dump the clutch at 65 mph and break traction. Haha I did that the second my KB was tuned, but its bad for the clutch.
Haha I hear that, I can barely get traction in 2nd @ 40 on street tires and I'm not even pullied, 1st gear it hops really bad, I'm just working on getting a spec stage 3+, an irs brace and bushings, billetflow 2.76, custom tune, some bfg's, and a LFP heat exchanger. Just some basic upgrades for now. Oh and I forgot the cooling mod because mine is a mineral grey (early run 2003) but luckily no ticking problem yet. Sonic Blue is the only other color I wish I had :)
Haha yeah. I want a bunch of stuff for my car, but money is always a problem. If I do end up wanting more power, I'll have a lot of shit to upgrade. My car is nearly maxed out. Its amazing how strong these cars are made from the factory. I'm running over 700 HP on a stock engine!
If I were you, I'd upgrade to the 3.4 Whipple. Whipple's are known to make more torque than Kenne Bell's do at the same horsepower level. And yeah the KB makes a nice whine, but they're fairly quiet. You gotta be running a decent amount of psi for it to really scream (18+). Thats the only thing I really hate about the twin screw. They are made to be quiet. Why the fuck would they do that?
Wow... Why is everyone giving you such a hard time!? Hahaha... jealous haters. I'm thinking of swapping my Whipple for a KB... simply because I like the sound of a KB better. Awesome cobra!
Your a fucking idiot. It isnt a Whipple, retard. Read the title. Its first words are KENNE BELL, dumb ass. And I would love to see a naturally aspirated car beat mine and still be in the same price range.
Kenne Bell, Whipple, it's all the same shit. Just another bolt on Mustang taking a blower to be fast. I bet you lose your shit in the parking lot at Home Depot on Saturdays. Or do you use that rolling dumpster disco camaro for that? Haha.
I don't have anything against forced induction either. My current build happens to have a procharger hanging off the front of it. Just morons like you that think this shit is god's gift to the world when in all reality it's just another slap together shitbox.
Dumpster disco? Is that a redneck term? And do you even have a car? Too poor to afford a video camera? Your probably still paying for that trailer you live in. Get a real car, not something that fell out of your ass this morning. Haha.
The most a 2.6 can put out is 24 psi. 24 psi is too much for the stock internals to handle, so thats why I dont run it. 22 psi is the highest you can go and still be somewhat safe.
The only difference between the 2.6 and 2.8 KB is that the 2.8 can put out another 2 psi. Thats it. Now the Mammoth 2.8 is a different story. Im not exactly sure what it can do, but its very pricey and it puts out a lot more power than the regualar 2.6 and 2.8. It makes more HP/TQ using less psi. Its more efficient.
I know that Mammoth on a GT500 makes like 801rwhp like the site said or somewhere around there. That seems somewhat logical because of the stock 500bhp/ 450 est rwhp.
If I was in your shoes, hahaha I would have bought the Mammoth but either way a Kenne Bell is a Kenne Bell. They both make a shitload of horsepower, 2.6 or 2.8.
I dont really want anymore power. If I would have bought that VERY expensive Mammoth, I would still have the same amount of power I do now. Why? Because I almost have the MAXIMUM amount of power my car can handle as it is. Another 50 HP and my engine would probally blow. With another 50+ HP, I'd have to upgrade the tranny, new rear end, heads, cams, supercharger, tuner, dyno tune, etc. I'd also have to buy connecting rods, pistons, and a crank + have them installed and balanced. Its VERY pricey.
ive safely run 21 psi on my 2.6H and race gas.Safe tune is the key.Street tune on pump gas is always 17 psi.These motors can take alot as long as you keep it tip top condition.
Yeah, I run 16 psi on my street tune, even though I should be doing the 17 like you. And I always put in race gas when Im running the 20 psi. The guy who dyno tuned my car said 22 psi is fine, but thats as far as the car can go without breaking something. And yes, my car is in perfect condition. I've taking it to the track a couple times, but I baby the hell out of it when Im driving it on the street.
And so what if you're faster than that car in a straight line. At the end of the day, if something breaks on the ZR1, they can take it back to Chevy to get fixed and drive home. As much as it hurts to say this because I love Cobras, the amount of shit you would have to do to a Cobra to be in a complete league of the ZR-1 (outside of straight line racing) meaning, weight, handling, power band, reliability, etc...Would cost a SHITload of money. The Cobra's a great car. But it's no ZR-1.
First off, Im a mechanic. I get a discount on every part I buy AND I install it myself. The Cobra is VERY reliable car and it wont break. Second, dont speak the obvious. Of course the ZR1 wins on turns, but I think you agree that most people race the 1/4 mile, not turns. My car has more HP/TQ than the ZR1. My car is $28K with the Kenne Bell on. If I wanted to add another $72K (or even 10K) on my car, I would RAPE the face off of an OVERPRICED ZR1. Quit comparing apples to oranges.
Hey dude, i put rockets on my tricycle, ill beat your shitty cobra in a straight line drag, and I only payed 100 dollars total.
Why would anyone pay an OVERPRICED 28K When you can build a faster cooler looking tricycle for 100, i mean i would completely RAPE the face off of your OVERPRICED Cobra.
Your a fucking cocky little shit, I hope you crash and burn oneday. Eat shit fuck you
lol I would love to see a tricycle beat my Cobra, fuck face. And what do you mean "overpriced?" There are Ferrari's that cost half a million dollars that are slower than my $28K Cobra, dumbass. lol Your just mad that your ugly ass 3rd generation Camaro cant hang with a REAL car. Fuck off, faggot.
Haha. Dude, i know my Camaro is slow as fuck. It has a 305 and barely gets out of its own way. My 8.1L suburban rapes its. but anyways. Yeah there are Ferraris that cost that much, whats the ZR1 cost? 100-120k? if that, People dont always buy these cars for speed. Its a status symbol, and the ZR1 is by no means overpriced in the category it is in. I could build my Camaro for less and make it faster, doesn't mean its a better value.
You just contradicted yourself, DUMBASS. You went from saying a $28,000 Cobra with 700 HP is overpriced to saying a 100 - 120K ZR1 with 636 HP is NOT overpriced. Make up your mind, dipshit.
Aw common dude I thought you were smarter than this, that whole first comment I wrote was sarcasm, I was trying to show you how much of a cocky little bitch you sound like to everyone on here. Wow dude, you fail hard, real hard...
dude forget about that glamis faggot! i think your car is sick. love the paint, love the saleen wheels. so what exactly was the horsepower now that you have more boost and a better belt?
lol thanks. Im not exactly sure about the numbers, but it should be (according to Kenne Bell) around 615 rwhp. But I would still prefer to have more torque than horse power, which I did in this run.
And stop calling it overpriced for crying out loud. Maybe people that buy the ZR-1 aren't worried about the price and would love to have that horsepower, torque, and speed UNDER WARRANTY. And around a track, it'll rape your face. You're calling it overpriced but it's actually a very low priced car compared to others in it's class. It can absolutely demolish other super cars that costs over 3 times as much.
Also, why dont you try calculating the ZR1's power to weight ratio vs. my Cobras. 595 rwhp is exactly 700 HP to the crank. And lets not forget, Im running 20 psi now, not the 18 Im showing in this vid (which came out to 595/605). I have around 25 more rwhp.
ZR1 - 3350/638 = (5.25 lbs/hp)
My Cobra - 3600/700 lbs = (5.14 lbs/hp)
My car still has the advantage. Aerodunamics play a role aswell, but the 1/4 mile race is long over before it matters.
That's a sick car but I think you have shit fucked up sideways. Unless you've ran a ZR-1, you're not faster than one. Stop dyno racing. Just because you make more power than one doesn't mean you can beat one. Race one first and THEN say you can beat a ZR-1. There's way too many factors involved in a race that can't be calculated.
I think we can all agree that a Cobra is gonna need a about 50-75 hp more then a vette to beat it from a roll. A bone stock ZR1 will put down about 550 at the wheels. A bolt on C6 z06 is gonna trap around 124-128. From what i have seen most kennie bell cobras are trapping around the same. But man u have a sick ass car! i love the sonic blue and the kennie bell must screem! Are u on svtperformance?
Try calculating the ZR1's power to weight ratio vs. my Cobras. 595 rwhp is exactly 700 HP to the crank. And lets not forget, Im running 20 psi now, not the 18 Im showing in this vid (which came out to 595/605). I have around 25 more rwhp/rwtq.
ZR1 - 3350/638 = (5.25 lbs/hp)
My Cobra - 3600/700 = (5.14 lbs/hp)
My car still has the advantage. Aerodunamics play a role aswell, but the 1/4 mile race is long over before it matters.
Nice car man. But i think ur wrong on the ZR1. I am a looking into buying an 03/04 Terminator myself and I am VERY aware of what they can do. As the guy with the gto said ur gonna need 700+ hp to beat a ZR1 from a roll. As a matter of fact Bolt on C6z06s are dead on with kenne bell cobras..there have been many videos proving this. Of course it goes both ways..sometimes the vette wins..sometimes the cobra.
And no Im not on svtperformance. Is that a forum? And by the way, do you own a C5 Z06? Im thinking on selling my Camaro with its 454 for a down payment. Its not official, but Im thinking on it.
the rear im going to upgrade to 3.91's and a cover that i've already bought as well as an aluminum drive shaft thats chillin in my garage... i have all new bfg kdw's for the car but im waiting for the tires that came with my rim package to wear down first. figure im just going to do it all at once. And all of this will be on 93octane pump gas!=] outta be one hell of a daily driver when im done. 450whp at the mild setting and 600+ at the wild one. i'll be sure to post videos and pics of the build
and of course, you're a shit ton cheaper! man i miss my 03 to death... too bad we live on opposite sides of the country... i'll be behind the wheel of a zr1 in hopefully a couple weeks when my girlfriend's father's is delivered... would have been quite the race
700 HP is the actual HP rating at my crank. 700 HP - 15% loss at the drive train gives you exactly 595 rwhp. And those are also actual ZR1 numbers. Go on its official site. I found it funny on how its heavier than the C6 Z06.
My car barely beats it, but as you said before, the ZR1 would start pulling at higher speeds and of course on the turns.
yea i just made a guess for the weight for the zr1... it makes sense its heavier than the z06 though... don't forget you're taking the same block as the ls7, but the ls9 has thicker cylinder walls (almost negligible, but weight none the less), the supercharger, a heat exchanger filled with fluid, and metal intake manifold instead of plastic ect. well then cudos to you for actually edging out the power to weight ratio. now youll just have to post a video racing one!
lol yeah, but what are the odds of ever seeing one AND is willing to race. I'll just have to show 1/4 mile times. Im waiting on a pair of drag radials to be delivered. Then we'll see whats up.
By the way, what kind of turbo are you planning on getting and what PSI are you wanting to run?
well i have a about 8 grand right now... thats enough to get the aps tt kit, and i already have a spec clutch in my car... but i cant put anything in until i get home from school ie xmas break. so i'm still debating whether i want to save up a little more for the gen tt kit. the aps at 10ps1 w/ meth would put me just shy of 600rwhp, but the gen tt with no meth at 10ps1 would put me at 640whp... aps= $8k gen tt= $10k. what do you think? look up what they look like... gentt is pretty bad ass...
Go all the way. Get the GEN TT. But thats not the only thing you'll be buying.
You have to buy forged pistons (low compression), forged conncting rods, and a forged crank that can all handle 800 HP (about $1800 for a kit). You also have to buy the tuner for your car (about $400), get it dyno tuned (about $500), upgrade tranny, possibly an upgraded rear end, and high octane fuel (about $8 a gallon). And tires are VERY important and expensive.
You proablly already know this, but Im just saying.
actually all stock lsx motors can take 10 pounds of boost with a good tune safely, and with the gentt thatll put me over 600wheel... i'm going to buy a boost controller and get a tune so that will allow me to change settings between 4-5ish and 10lbs. dyno time will probably be about $800-$1000 because i wont be able to use the tune that comes with the kit if i want to 2 step it. the trans i know is good for 1000horse because i already have carbon fiber syncros and the clutch.
and you might want to check this car out to get an idea of what my friends cars are like (i have by far the slowest one, but just recently bought mine) search 1badfrc. the guy is n2ojoe
okay now... just for fun... not to hurt anyones feelings. approximate numbers... zr1 3200lbs/640hp= 5lbs/hp. termi 3600lbs/700hp= 5.14lbs/hp. gto 3850/435hp= 8.85lbs/hp. the jokes on my car for now lol the zr1 is still on top though ;)
alright listen... yes, the arguing is dumb, and i apologize for sort of attacking you. i really do. i've actually never gone after someone that posts a video of an amazing car. i usually make people feel foolish when they make ridiculous comments about cars as nice as yours. what you put on your info, to piss someone else off, really urked me for some reason though. i still think the zr1 would take you... and my goat will be twin turbod soon enough ;) it is just very noisy for now lol
all im saying is that ya need to tone it down a bit bud. theres plenty of daily driven street cars our there that could hand your car its ass, granted how fast your termi is.
Why are you being such an asshole? Dont waste my time telling me things I couldnt give a shit less about. And "plenty?" Sure there are some, but you make "plenty" sound a little more excessive than what it is. It seems to me you have a really big ego. Your being a hypocrite.
to be honest i just think its hilarious you actually believe you can beat a zr1. you realize you need 700+ wheel and even then after 150 or so the vette would take over. and idk where youre from but where i live 800+whp cobras vettes supras and rx7's are a dime a dozen. and im being an asshole because in your info YOURE BEING AN ASSHOLE
To me your just a shit talker because EVERYONE has a 800+ HP car (sarcasm) for a "dime a dozen". Your basically saying you cant spare a dime. Your car isnt close to the 800+ HP that EVERYONE has. Your a fucking idiot. And actually, the video description is directed at a certain shit talker JUST LIKE YOU. By the way, my numbers show I AM FASTER than a ZR1. So dumbass please stop messaging me. If you knew a little math, you would know that, but I guess you dont have a Second Grade Education.
you have an amazing termi, with some big time numbers, but i dont think anything is bigger than your ridiculous ego. i respect 03/04 cobras to death, but i really hope a zr1 puts you in your place. and if a stock one doesnt, a ported stock blower with a pulley and tune sure as hell will. and dont come back saying crap like "blah blah my car will kick your piece of shit gto's ass" because yes, i know it will. i just dont have your ego
lol ego?? Where the hell did that come from?? And I really dont give a fuck about a $100,000 car with MODS beating my car because it SHOULD from factory (being $80,000+ more). The ZR1 is an awesome car, but its a rip off. For all that money, you should have a fucking car that has atleast 1000 HP and can wipe your ass.
i agree on the thousand horsepower and that it should wipe my ass. there should be an autmatic dick sucker while gm is at it, but read your info for this video and tell me that there isnt a serious ego problem going on
Dude, sick car, I followed the conversation from another video. Awesome car. I hope to one day have a cobra. Don't listen to the "posers" they are just jealous of your kick ass ride. 5 stars!
Thats a bad car right there!!!! Love the video...! I love retards that want proof...! You really wanna know how to eat a Z06 wit that stang? get your weight down to 2,800-3,200lbs, my cuzin has a 3000-3200lbs 65 mustang makin right at 700-750rwhp he runs 6.00-6.10's in the 1/8 which is 9.00-9.10's in the 1/4..... :)
Thanks. Even though my car weighs 3600 lbs, I can still eat a C6 Z06 without even stomping the pedal all the way down. lol But I agree. If I knocked down the weight a little, it would just be more embarassing for the bowtie boys.
Congrats on that Stang being able to eat a Z06, I wanna see some videos of this car in action when you get a chance...! When I get a better job thats going to be my hobbie showing the bowtie boys how it's done... LOL!!
Sure thing! Theres two guys around here with C6 Z06s (one is blue and the other is silver) and they are always willing to race anybody. Before I got my KB, I raced the silver one and my car was dead even with his. No car was faster than the other. Now that I have my KB, I've been waiting for them.
The whole bottom end is bone stock. Thats what makes the Cobra a better car than the C5 Z06. The Cobra can handle twice the power it comes with and not to mention its just as fast, all for a lower price and a rarer car.
true in theory your numbers would make you right. But all they are just numbers. There are videos of mustangs with I think 150 more hp than the z06 and the z06 still wins. So if you car is that fast please post up some driving videos can I want to have the pleasure to see and hear it!
Okay. Im actually waiting on a pair of drag radials to be shipped to my house. I ordered them two weeks ago, but Sears is waiting to have them shipped in to their store. Its going to be a long wait, but when I get them, I'll make some 1/4 mile videos. Its a possibilty I wont make the times a ZR1 makes because Im not a professional at drag racing. The pros who have driven the ZR1 have way better reaction times and shifting skills than I do. But Im not making any excuses. We'll see in time.
Do the math. Im running 595 rwhp. I have about 700 HP at the crank @ 18 psi. My car weighs 3600 lbs.
The ZR1 has an average of 638 HP at the crank (some were measured at 646 HP). Lets take the 646 HP for example. Thats 549 RWHP. The car weights 3350 lbs.
Heres why my car is faster. I HAD BELT SLIP. That pulley puts out 20 psi, but it only gave me 18 because of the slippage. I am without a doubt faster than a ZR1. 250 lbs less isnt going to make up for 62 HP, not to mention 88 HP @ 20 psi.
And thats an example based on the fastest ZR1. The average is around 638 HP. I also have more rear wheel torque than I do rear wheel horse power. The ZR1 doesnt have anywhere near the torque I have.
i love it and want it NOW lol
bjjxr8 1 year ago
love it man love it, my dream car right there
slipknotmetallica7 1 year ago
hey man nice car but was up with the tuners having cheap ass boost gouge you may want to check your boost with another gouge ones more nice ride
1Gmkiller 1 year ago
im learning about mustangs, and im wondering if you would get more traction with lesser gears,if so how much?
Uzi910 1 year ago
im looking into getting a 2003-2004 gt or svt, and kb supercharger, whats the max psi i can run it at with stock internals? or what hp? im new to this, and i want to get around 380hp total, and kb sc system, but what do i need to upgrade much for it to work without any problems?
nice cobra, i always loved cobras,this is nice one
Uzi910 1 year ago
@Uzi910 ah 380hp is a stock termi.
musicequalslife008 8 months ago
@musicequalslife008
termi would be great, but thats if I could find one, most likely a gt, it would be nice to have 4v in gt though, or even better, terminator,looks as if im going to go built gt route
Uzi910 8 months ago
@Uzi910 i go gt or termi
branman50314 7 months ago
@branman50314
yea im thinking GT and termi later, its more realistic for my goals anyway,at least for now, termi would be nice, but GT is the most likely
Uzi910 7 months ago
@Uzi910 well gt r great to i have a gt and i dont have a problem with keeping up with anything
branman50314 7 months ago
@branman50314 yea, GTs are real good, specially aftermarket selection, also nice setup gt you got, sounds great
Uzi910 7 months ago
@Uzi910 thanks man yeah i think u would be real happy with a gt
branman50314 7 months ago
@branman50314
hell yeah, im going to add you, def will upload vids when I get it/progression of it into a monster :D
Uzi910 7 months ago
Black on blue = fucking incredible
M1K3999 2 years ago
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xZZxTakedown 2 years ago
@xZZxTakedown On pump gas tunes shure.
jhoe1upGuy 9 months ago
that car sucks!!! lol nah man jk sick car its sounds SICK
daltonboy7154 2 years ago
Any times in the quarter yet with the 2.6? Its an awesome car!
niko1971 2 years ago
[wiping the drool from my chin] Awesome car. 03 Sonic Blue Cobra + Kenne Bell = lotsa drool...
sneaky98gt 2 years ago 4
very nice!
MineralGreyCobra 2 years ago
Very nice car. Someday i hope to have a KB 2.6 on my GT
alpinestar7272 2 years ago
i knew i recognized this car man!! whats going on!? i decided to look for youtube videos of the mustang i wish i had considering i was driving mine today and coming the other way was a blacked out loud 03/04 cobra
hockeyman474 2 years ago
nice cobra!!!!!, what octane of gas are you using??
IMSIKW1THIT 3 years ago
93 octane
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
@TooFastForTransAm 93 is not high octain. Unless you live in Cali, hahaha.
jhoe1upGuy 9 months ago
Nice vid man, that sucks about the belt slip but glad you got it fixed. I'm looking into a 2.2l kb, be about 600 rwhp, thats more than enough for me and the streets :) nice car, i love that sonic blue.
SkAtEOrDie67 3 years ago
Thanks man, but why not go with a 2.6 or 2.8? You never know if you'll wanna go faster someday... Most people get bored from running the same power over a period of time. You can still have your 600 rwhp, but its good to know your supercharger has a lot more potential from a simple pulley swap. lol But if you do get that 2.2, your car is gonna SCREAM!!! Haha that's the beauty of those 2.2 and 2.4 KB's.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
I've just been waiting for the right deal to come along, now a days with everybody upgrading to the big blowers I can pick up a 2.2 for ~$1800-2k (didn't have money at that time though dammit) and plus from what I've heard 650-700 rwhp on the street is really hard to hook up. I know I'll want more though, heck I want to skip the port go right with KB lol. Plus with the bigger blowers pushing 700 you have to start upgrading other stuff. Like the t-56 or the IRS. Not necessarily but ya should.
SkAtEOrDie67 3 years ago
Yeah thats true. Going with the 2.2 is a good idea for the power you want for now. And if the time comes when you want more power, you can always sell it and get a bigger one. And the tranny is one thing I need to upgrade. Im surprised it hasnt broke on me yet. lol
And I'll tell you something: 600 rwhp will NOT hook up on the street AT ALL on street tires. You need DRs. I can dump the clutch at 65 mph and break traction. Haha I did that the second my KB was tuned, but its bad for the clutch.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Haha I hear that, I can barely get traction in 2nd @ 40 on street tires and I'm not even pullied, 1st gear it hops really bad, I'm just working on getting a spec stage 3+, an irs brace and bushings, billetflow 2.76, custom tune, some bfg's, and a LFP heat exchanger. Just some basic upgrades for now. Oh and I forgot the cooling mod because mine is a mineral grey (early run 2003) but luckily no ticking problem yet. Sonic Blue is the only other color I wish I had :)
SkAtEOrDie67 3 years ago
Haha yeah. I want a bunch of stuff for my car, but money is always a problem. If I do end up wanting more power, I'll have a lot of shit to upgrade. My car is nearly maxed out. Its amazing how strong these cars are made from the factory. I'm running over 700 HP on a stock engine!
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago 3
First generation 2.3L @ 19psi. Put down 610/570 to the wheels.
UFGatorGuy20 3 years ago
If I were you, I'd upgrade to the 3.4 Whipple. Whipple's are known to make more torque than Kenne Bell's do at the same horsepower level. And yeah the KB makes a nice whine, but they're fairly quiet. You gotta be running a decent amount of psi for it to really scream (18+). Thats the only thing I really hate about the twin screw. They are made to be quiet. Why the fuck would they do that?
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Wow... Why is everyone giving you such a hard time!? Hahaha... jealous haters. I'm thinking of swapping my Whipple for a KB... simply because I like the sound of a KB better. Awesome cobra!
UFGatorGuy20 3 years ago
lol I know. What kind of Whipple do you have?
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Looks like a piece of shit Mustang to me.....
onebad340mopar 3 years ago
Looks like another dumbass Mopar faggot to me. Your on a page where nobody really gives a fuck about your opinion, so fuck off bitch.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
I don't own a mopar, retard. shitty thing that's a CA plate. Me and a few others would like to show you how an 18PSI whipple isn't enough anymore.
And Mustang's still suck.
onebad340mopar 3 years ago
Your a fucking idiot. It isnt a Whipple, retard. Read the title. Its first words are KENNE BELL, dumb ass. And I would love to see a naturally aspirated car beat mine and still be in the same price range.
And faggots like you still suck balls.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Kenne Bell, Whipple, it's all the same shit. Just another bolt on Mustang taking a blower to be fast. I bet you lose your shit in the parking lot at Home Depot on Saturdays. Or do you use that rolling dumpster disco camaro for that? Haha.
I don't have anything against forced induction either. My current build happens to have a procharger hanging off the front of it. Just morons like you that think this shit is god's gift to the world when in all reality it's just another slap together shitbox.
onebad340mopar 3 years ago
Dumpster disco? Is that a redneck term? And do you even have a car? Too poor to afford a video camera? Your probably still paying for that trailer you live in. Get a real car, not something that fell out of your ass this morning. Haha.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
What was the max boost that the 2.6 KB Blower could put out? Wasn't it like 20 psi? Why don't you run that? Too much stress?
acetheheretic 3 years ago
The most a 2.6 can put out is 24 psi. 24 psi is too much for the stock internals to handle, so thats why I dont run it. 22 psi is the highest you can go and still be somewhat safe.
The only difference between the 2.6 and 2.8 KB is that the 2.8 can put out another 2 psi. Thats it. Now the Mammoth 2.8 is a different story. Im not exactly sure what it can do, but its very pricey and it puts out a lot more power than the regualar 2.6 and 2.8. It makes more HP/TQ using less psi. Its more efficient.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
I know that Mammoth on a GT500 makes like 801rwhp like the site said or somewhere around there. That seems somewhat logical because of the stock 500bhp/ 450 est rwhp.
If I was in your shoes, hahaha I would have bought the Mammoth but either way a Kenne Bell is a Kenne Bell. They both make a shitload of horsepower, 2.6 or 2.8.
acetheheretic 3 years ago
I dont really want anymore power. If I would have bought that VERY expensive Mammoth, I would still have the same amount of power I do now. Why? Because I almost have the MAXIMUM amount of power my car can handle as it is. Another 50 HP and my engine would probally blow. With another 50+ HP, I'd have to upgrade the tranny, new rear end, heads, cams, supercharger, tuner, dyno tune, etc. I'd also have to buy connecting rods, pistons, and a crank + have them installed and balanced. Its VERY pricey.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
ive safely run 21 psi on my 2.6H and race gas.Safe tune is the key.Street tune on pump gas is always 17 psi.These motors can take alot as long as you keep it tip top condition.
DMANN1972 3 years ago
Yeah, I run 16 psi on my street tune, even though I should be doing the 17 like you. And I always put in race gas when Im running the 20 psi. The guy who dyno tuned my car said 22 psi is fine, but thats as far as the car can go without breaking something. And yes, my car is in perfect condition. I've taking it to the track a couple times, but I baby the hell out of it when Im driving it on the street.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
looks amazing dude, great classic cobra blowing sound once you give ehr the boost
Blade3562 3 years ago
Got to love the mustang vs vette post. its like saying my stock mustang gt can beat a stock 4 banger civic! o rly now?
97PImustangGT 3 years ago
Really really
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
kingdavid . look zr1 is a cool car and all but id much rather have a kb terminator , i mean terminators looks mean , the vettes look kinda wimpy .
built04kbterminator 3 years ago
And so what if you're faster than that car in a straight line. At the end of the day, if something breaks on the ZR1, they can take it back to Chevy to get fixed and drive home. As much as it hurts to say this because I love Cobras, the amount of shit you would have to do to a Cobra to be in a complete league of the ZR-1 (outside of straight line racing) meaning, weight, handling, power band, reliability, etc...Would cost a SHITload of money. The Cobra's a great car. But it's no ZR-1.
KingDavid060606 3 years ago
First off, Im a mechanic. I get a discount on every part I buy AND I install it myself. The Cobra is VERY reliable car and it wont break. Second, dont speak the obvious. Of course the ZR1 wins on turns, but I think you agree that most people race the 1/4 mile, not turns. My car has more HP/TQ than the ZR1. My car is $28K with the Kenne Bell on. If I wanted to add another $72K (or even 10K) on my car, I would RAPE the face off of an OVERPRICED ZR1. Quit comparing apples to oranges.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Hey dude, i put rockets on my tricycle, ill beat your shitty cobra in a straight line drag, and I only payed 100 dollars total.
Why would anyone pay an OVERPRICED 28K When you can build a faster cooler looking tricycle for 100, i mean i would completely RAPE the face off of your OVERPRICED Cobra.
Your a fucking cocky little shit, I hope you crash and burn oneday. Eat shit fuck you
XxGlamisDunerxX 3 years ago
lol I would love to see a tricycle beat my Cobra, fuck face. And what do you mean "overpriced?" There are Ferrari's that cost half a million dollars that are slower than my $28K Cobra, dumbass. lol Your just mad that your ugly ass 3rd generation Camaro cant hang with a REAL car. Fuck off, faggot.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Haha. Dude, i know my Camaro is slow as fuck. It has a 305 and barely gets out of its own way. My 8.1L suburban rapes its. but anyways. Yeah there are Ferraris that cost that much, whats the ZR1 cost? 100-120k? if that, People dont always buy these cars for speed. Its a status symbol, and the ZR1 is by no means overpriced in the category it is in. I could build my Camaro for less and make it faster, doesn't mean its a better value.
stupid bitch
XxGlamisDunerxX 3 years ago
You just contradicted yourself, DUMBASS. You went from saying a $28,000 Cobra with 700 HP is overpriced to saying a 100 - 120K ZR1 with 636 HP is NOT overpriced. Make up your mind, dipshit.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Aw common dude I thought you were smarter than this, that whole first comment I wrote was sarcasm, I was trying to show you how much of a cocky little bitch you sound like to everyone on here. Wow dude, you fail hard, real hard...
XxGlamisDunerxX 3 years ago
lol I just think you realized you completely dont know what your talking about. Thats the best you can come up with? Im sorry....
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
dude forget about that glamis faggot! i think your car is sick. love the paint, love the saleen wheels. so what exactly was the horsepower now that you have more boost and a better belt?
stuntrider15 3 years ago
lol thanks. Im not exactly sure about the numbers, but it should be (according to Kenne Bell) around 615 rwhp. But I would still prefer to have more torque than horse power, which I did in this run.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
And stop calling it overpriced for crying out loud. Maybe people that buy the ZR-1 aren't worried about the price and would love to have that horsepower, torque, and speed UNDER WARRANTY. And around a track, it'll rape your face. You're calling it overpriced but it's actually a very low priced car compared to others in it's class. It can absolutely demolish other super cars that costs over 3 times as much.
KingDavid060606 3 years ago
Also, why dont you try calculating the ZR1's power to weight ratio vs. my Cobras. 595 rwhp is exactly 700 HP to the crank. And lets not forget, Im running 20 psi now, not the 18 Im showing in this vid (which came out to 595/605). I have around 25 more rwhp.
ZR1 - 3350/638 = (5.25 lbs/hp)
My Cobra - 3600/700 lbs = (5.14 lbs/hp)
My car still has the advantage. Aerodunamics play a role aswell, but the 1/4 mile race is long over before it matters.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Especially...ESPECIALLY after I witnessed a +1000whp corvette lose to a 715whp Evo. I'll even provide the link if you want.
KingDavid060606 3 years ago
That's a sick car but I think you have shit fucked up sideways. Unless you've ran a ZR-1, you're not faster than one. Stop dyno racing. Just because you make more power than one doesn't mean you can beat one. Race one first and THEN say you can beat a ZR-1. There's way too many factors involved in a race that can't be calculated.
KingDavid060606 3 years ago
I think we can all agree that a Cobra is gonna need a about 50-75 hp more then a vette to beat it from a roll. A bone stock ZR1 will put down about 550 at the wheels. A bolt on C6 z06 is gonna trap around 124-128. From what i have seen most kennie bell cobras are trapping around the same. But man u have a sick ass car! i love the sonic blue and the kennie bell must screem! Are u on svtperformance?
CorZ06vette405 3 years ago
Try calculating the ZR1's power to weight ratio vs. my Cobras. 595 rwhp is exactly 700 HP to the crank. And lets not forget, Im running 20 psi now, not the 18 Im showing in this vid (which came out to 595/605). I have around 25 more rwhp/rwtq.
ZR1 - 3350/638 = (5.25 lbs/hp)
My Cobra - 3600/700 = (5.14 lbs/hp)
My car still has the advantage. Aerodunamics play a role aswell, but the 1/4 mile race is long over before it matters.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Nice car man. But i think ur wrong on the ZR1. I am a looking into buying an 03/04 Terminator myself and I am VERY aware of what they can do. As the guy with the gto said ur gonna need 700+ hp to beat a ZR1 from a roll. As a matter of fact Bolt on C6z06s are dead on with kenne bell cobras..there have been many videos proving this. Of course it goes both ways..sometimes the vette wins..sometimes the cobra.
CorZ06vette405 3 years ago
And no Im not on svtperformance. Is that a forum? And by the way, do you own a C5 Z06? Im thinking on selling my Camaro with its 454 for a down payment. Its not official, but Im thinking on it.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
the rear im going to upgrade to 3.91's and a cover that i've already bought as well as an aluminum drive shaft thats chillin in my garage... i have all new bfg kdw's for the car but im waiting for the tires that came with my rim package to wear down first. figure im just going to do it all at once. And all of this will be on 93octane pump gas!=] outta be one hell of a daily driver when im done. 450whp at the mild setting and 600+ at the wild one. i'll be sure to post videos and pics of the build
05ls2goat 3 years ago
and of course, you're a shit ton cheaper! man i miss my 03 to death... too bad we live on opposite sides of the country... i'll be behind the wheel of a zr1 in hopefully a couple weeks when my girlfriend's father's is delivered... would have been quite the race
05ls2goat 3 years ago
Your numbers are a tad bit off for the ZR1:
ZR1 - 638 HP/3350 lbs = (5.25 lbs/hp)
My Cobra - 700 HP/3600 lbs = (5.14 lbs/hp)
700 HP is the actual HP rating at my crank. 700 HP - 15% loss at the drive train gives you exactly 595 rwhp. And those are also actual ZR1 numbers. Go on its official site. I found it funny on how its heavier than the C6 Z06.
My car barely beats it, but as you said before, the ZR1 would start pulling at higher speeds and of course on the turns.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
yea i just made a guess for the weight for the zr1... it makes sense its heavier than the z06 though... don't forget you're taking the same block as the ls7, but the ls9 has thicker cylinder walls (almost negligible, but weight none the less), the supercharger, a heat exchanger filled with fluid, and metal intake manifold instead of plastic ect. well then cudos to you for actually edging out the power to weight ratio. now youll just have to post a video racing one!
05ls2goat 3 years ago
lol yeah, but what are the odds of ever seeing one AND is willing to race. I'll just have to show 1/4 mile times. Im waiting on a pair of drag radials to be delivered. Then we'll see whats up.
By the way, what kind of turbo are you planning on getting and what PSI are you wanting to run?
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
well i have a about 8 grand right now... thats enough to get the aps tt kit, and i already have a spec clutch in my car... but i cant put anything in until i get home from school ie xmas break. so i'm still debating whether i want to save up a little more for the gen tt kit. the aps at 10ps1 w/ meth would put me just shy of 600rwhp, but the gen tt with no meth at 10ps1 would put me at 640whp... aps= $8k gen tt= $10k. what do you think? look up what they look like... gentt is pretty bad ass...
05ls2goat 3 years ago
Go all the way. Get the GEN TT. But thats not the only thing you'll be buying.
You have to buy forged pistons (low compression), forged conncting rods, and a forged crank that can all handle 800 HP (about $1800 for a kit). You also have to buy the tuner for your car (about $400), get it dyno tuned (about $500), upgrade tranny, possibly an upgraded rear end, and high octane fuel (about $8 a gallon). And tires are VERY important and expensive.
You proablly already know this, but Im just saying.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
actually all stock lsx motors can take 10 pounds of boost with a good tune safely, and with the gentt thatll put me over 600wheel... i'm going to buy a boost controller and get a tune so that will allow me to change settings between 4-5ish and 10lbs. dyno time will probably be about $800-$1000 because i wont be able to use the tune that comes with the kit if i want to 2 step it. the trans i know is good for 1000horse because i already have carbon fiber syncros and the clutch.
05ls2goat 3 years ago
and you might want to check this car out to get an idea of what my friends cars are like (i have by far the slowest one, but just recently bought mine) search 1badfrc. the guy is n2ojoe
05ls2goat 3 years ago
okay now... just for fun... not to hurt anyones feelings. approximate numbers... zr1 3200lbs/640hp= 5lbs/hp. termi 3600lbs/700hp= 5.14lbs/hp. gto 3850/435hp= 8.85lbs/hp. the jokes on my car for now lol the zr1 is still on top though ;)
05ls2goat 3 years ago
alright listen... yes, the arguing is dumb, and i apologize for sort of attacking you. i really do. i've actually never gone after someone that posts a video of an amazing car. i usually make people feel foolish when they make ridiculous comments about cars as nice as yours. what you put on your info, to piss someone else off, really urked me for some reason though. i still think the zr1 would take you... and my goat will be twin turbod soon enough ;) it is just very noisy for now lol
05ls2goat 3 years ago
Dude that is a freakin sweet ass whip!!!
I love cobras as much as my saleen lol
As far as these guys talkn crap forget them
I have a buddy that used to own a 04 gt with bolt on's and very little spray that would beat the crap out of z06's So it can be done
As far as the Zr1 your numbers are correct I have been looking for one to race myself just to seem them in action you know lol
all in all awesome COBRA and beautiful KENNE BELL!
saleen4162 3 years ago
all im saying is that ya need to tone it down a bit bud. theres plenty of daily driven street cars our there that could hand your car its ass, granted how fast your termi is.
05ls2goat 3 years ago
Why are you being such an asshole? Dont waste my time telling me things I couldnt give a shit less about. And "plenty?" Sure there are some, but you make "plenty" sound a little more excessive than what it is. It seems to me you have a really big ego. Your being a hypocrite.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
to be honest i just think its hilarious you actually believe you can beat a zr1. you realize you need 700+ wheel and even then after 150 or so the vette would take over. and idk where youre from but where i live 800+whp cobras vettes supras and rx7's are a dime a dozen. and im being an asshole because in your info YOURE BEING AN ASSHOLE
05ls2goat 3 years ago
To me your just a shit talker because EVERYONE has a 800+ HP car (sarcasm) for a "dime a dozen". Your basically saying you cant spare a dime. Your car isnt close to the 800+ HP that EVERYONE has. Your a fucking idiot. And actually, the video description is directed at a certain shit talker JUST LIKE YOU. By the way, my numbers show I AM FASTER than a ZR1. So dumbass please stop messaging me. If you knew a little math, you would know that, but I guess you dont have a Second Grade Education.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
you have an amazing termi, with some big time numbers, but i dont think anything is bigger than your ridiculous ego. i respect 03/04 cobras to death, but i really hope a zr1 puts you in your place. and if a stock one doesnt, a ported stock blower with a pulley and tune sure as hell will. and dont come back saying crap like "blah blah my car will kick your piece of shit gto's ass" because yes, i know it will. i just dont have your ego
05ls2goat 3 years ago
lol ego?? Where the hell did that come from?? And I really dont give a fuck about a $100,000 car with MODS beating my car because it SHOULD from factory (being $80,000+ more). The ZR1 is an awesome car, but its a rip off. For all that money, you should have a fucking car that has atleast 1000 HP and can wipe your ass.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
i agree on the thousand horsepower and that it should wipe my ass. there should be an autmatic dick sucker while gm is at it, but read your info for this video and tell me that there isnt a serious ego problem going on
05ls2goat 3 years ago
Dude, sick car, I followed the conversation from another video. Awesome car. I hope to one day have a cobra. Don't listen to the "posers" they are just jealous of your kick ass ride. 5 stars!
XNCFox 3 years ago
Congrats on the car man. Looks great. Hope you get some more vids soon. I wanna see it in action.
F0R3V3RD3AD 3 years ago
i love and want the same exact supercharger!!! = ) what octane do u run?
yay408area 3 years ago
Thats a bad car right there!!!! Love the video...! I love retards that want proof...! You really wanna know how to eat a Z06 wit that stang? get your weight down to 2,800-3,200lbs, my cuzin has a 3000-3200lbs 65 mustang makin right at 700-750rwhp he runs 6.00-6.10's in the 1/8 which is 9.00-9.10's in the 1/4..... :)
PureAmericanMuscle69 3 years ago
Thanks. Even though my car weighs 3600 lbs, I can still eat a C6 Z06 without even stomping the pedal all the way down. lol But I agree. If I knocked down the weight a little, it would just be more embarassing for the bowtie boys.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
Congrats on that Stang being able to eat a Z06, I wanna see some videos of this car in action when you get a chance...! When I get a better job thats going to be my hobbie showing the bowtie boys how it's done... LOL!!
PureAmericanMuscle69 3 years ago
Sure thing! Theres two guys around here with C6 Z06s (one is blue and the other is silver) and they are always willing to race anybody. Before I got my KB, I raced the silver one and my car was dead even with his. No car was faster than the other. Now that I have my KB, I've been waiting for them.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
I'd be waiting for them too, have a video camara ready... lol Show them what a Ford is made of..!
PureAmericanMuscle69 3 years ago
you realize i dont drive a ford lol i used to have an 03 termi but this build is a 6.0 GTO
05ls2goat 3 years ago
Hopefully you did something to the crank
Where do you get your cranks at??
GigaMinion 3 years ago
The whole bottom end is bone stock. Thats what makes the Cobra a better car than the C5 Z06. The Cobra can handle twice the power it comes with and not to mention its just as fast, all for a lower price and a rarer car.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
dude totally go get the heaviest crank you can find, the heaviest connecting rods you can find. then just work on the spark
Srry. i'm a torque fan
can ya do it though? like put a heavy crank on the list anywhere? lol
GigaMinion 3 years ago
true in theory your numbers would make you right. But all they are just numbers. There are videos of mustangs with I think 150 more hp than the z06 and the z06 still wins. So if you car is that fast please post up some driving videos can I want to have the pleasure to see and hear it!
Libblelabble 3 years ago
Okay. Im actually waiting on a pair of drag radials to be shipped to my house. I ordered them two weeks ago, but Sears is waiting to have them shipped in to their store. Its going to be a long wait, but when I get them, I'll make some 1/4 mile videos. Its a possibilty I wont make the times a ZR1 makes because Im not a professional at drag racing. The pros who have driven the ZR1 have way better reaction times and shifting skills than I do. But Im not making any excuses. We'll see in time.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
if your going to say your faster than a much lighter zr1 you better have more proof than your word. Maybe some 1/4 mile vids?
Libblelabble 3 years ago
Do the math. Im running 595 rwhp. I have about 700 HP at the crank @ 18 psi. My car weighs 3600 lbs.
The ZR1 has an average of 638 HP at the crank (some were measured at 646 HP). Lets take the 646 HP for example. Thats 549 RWHP. The car weights 3350 lbs.
Heres why my car is faster. I HAD BELT SLIP. That pulley puts out 20 psi, but it only gave me 18 because of the slippage. I am without a doubt faster than a ZR1. 250 lbs less isnt going to make up for 62 HP, not to mention 88 HP @ 20 psi.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago
And thats an example based on the fastest ZR1. The average is around 638 HP. I also have more rear wheel torque than I do rear wheel horse power. The ZR1 doesnt have anywhere near the torque I have.
TooFastForTransAm 3 years ago