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  • "...that WHOSOEVER believed in him would have everlasting life." Well satan believes in god, does he not? God's arch enemy "Satan" believes in god. He would have to to be his enemy. And this everlasting life stuff leaves even more questions. What kind of life? Slaves and prisoners have life. Keep your silly little book to yourself.

  • SEND HIM TO THE OVENS!!!

  • @shawdawg89 Dude, that was really rude of you to say that to John Piper!:(

  • yeah well look up Antipas of Pergamum. This nicolaitan John Piper! I mean no disrespect to John Piper.. but was hoping for him to reply back and show his christian faith by confirming my statement! Join Roman Catholic Church.. it goes back old school and helped europe out of the dark ages.

  • @shawdawg89 Actually do some research. The roman catholic church put the world into the dark ages by burning the library in Alexandria.

  • I think the first scripture citation is actually John 1:29. Nice message though. Just wanted to point out that correction.

  • @12sionara Just goes to prove that none but god is perfect

  • If you are unsure of something you have read in your Bible,pray and ask.You have not because you have asked not....Prayer does make things happen,try that rather than arguing your topics.

  • Nobody knows how to be saved. For all you know god might just change his mind and decide to "purify" the earth by killing everyone. I'd rather be dead for eternity then alive for eternity anyways.

  • How can this guy simply ignore all of the other verses that say that one must do MORE than just "believe"?? Nowhere in Scripture does it say that believe ONLY can save.

  • @Dystopiologist This is a testament to the universality of God's acceptance and invitation of those who believe in Him. To believe in God is to know Him and as it is expressed thoroughly in the other verses you speak, repentance is necessary. Turning away from evil deeds and expressing a weakness in regards to self-salvation. This repentance is continual, once started in continues through the Christian life. I know because the Holy Spirit speaks to me. Do you believe repentance is needed also?

  • @Dystopiologist All you have to do is believe Jesus, not just his existance but everything he says, including his commands to repent. Thats the part many dont get. When you believe Jesus you cant just believe the parts about him you like, you have to believe it all.

  • @MnSPictures Peter said "thou art the Christ" (Matt 16:16), John taught that, "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God." (I John 5:1). It follows that Peter was born again and in possession of eternal life, yet he did not believe in the resurrection even though it had already occurred (Mark 16:14), and even though Jesus had taught it to him several times (John 2:19, etc). Thus "believing everything" is not a prerequisite for eternal life - faith is a fruit of the spirit.

  • We are saved ,we are being saved,and we will be saved.God makes us born again and causes us to believe on Him,not just believe in Him.We are continuously being saved until we are finally saved, as in glorification.So we don't believe to make ourselves born again,we are born again first and new birth only comes By God's Hand,not ours,only then will we believe on Jesus Christ or into Him as into the body.

  • The Scriptures completely rebuke this view! "Even the demons believe..." (James 2:19).

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    This man has an unbiblical view of salvation.

  • @Dystopiologist What does James 2:19 have to do with anything that he is saying this video? God commands all men to repent and believe.

  • @BennyMetal7 James is correcting an error that many Protestants fall into - the notion that mere "belief" is enough to buy eternal salvation. One cannot simply cherrypick verses at will and ignore the whole of Scripture.

  • @Dystopiologist Well for one, Christ bought our Salvation. Secondly, Salvation is a gift, just as faith is, it is given by the Grace of God (Eph 2). James simply states that Faith that does not produce works is not true faith, We were saved UNTO good works which God prepared beforehand (Eph 2:10) not BY OUR WORKS. Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

  • @BennyMetal7

    Yes - salvation is a gift. Yes, it's given by grace; no problem there.

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    But nowhere in the Bible does it say that one is saved by faith ONLY. James is clearly refuting this heresy.

  • @Dystopiologist Actually, it is found several places in Scripture... Eph 1:13, 2:8-10, Romans 5:1-2, 3:22, 3:24, 3:28, 9:30, 10:4, 10:9-10, 11:6. Gal 2:16, 3:5-6, 3:8, 3:14, 3:22. Philippians 3:9, 1 Tim 1:16, John 6:29, 6:40.

    And those are just a few, there are many more. Please take the time to look into these verses and study their significance in the matter.

  • @BennyMetal7

    Okay, Benny - you're telling me that ALL of those verses say, unequivocally, that the ONLY thing one has to do is to "believe", and one is "saved"?

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    Don't play with us. I know that everybody likes to be a YouTube expert, but you really should not play around with the Word of God.

  • @Dystopiologist Maybe we can finish this discussion via messaging? If you wish, would you provide an exegesis of both James 2 and Eph 2?

  • @BennyMetal7

    NONE of those verses say that one is saved by faith "alone" - in fact, the only place in Scripture where the words "faith alone" appears is James 2:24 - where it says we are NOT "saved by faith alone".

    Jesus was asked DIRECTLY about what one must do to be saved in Matthew 19:16-17; what did the Lord say?

  • @Dystopiologist Are you espousing that one must keep the commandments perfectly to be saved? Christ's purpose in saying this was to show the impossibility of EARNING one's Salvation. And yes, those verses clearly say that Salvation along with Justification are obtained by Faith in Christ apart from anything else. James was simply stating that Faith that does not produce good works (Matt 3:10) is not saving faith. We are saved UNTO good works, Eph 2:10.

  • @BennyMetal7

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    "Teacher, what good deed must I do, to have eternal life?"..."If you would enter life, keep the Commandments."

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    You've said TWO things about this verse: 1) It proves "faith only" saves, and now 2) "earning" one's salvation is impossible.

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    Is that REALLY what that verse says? I know that you don't really believe this. I'm amazed that you can trash God's Word like this to suit your own ends.

  • @Dystopiologist If you notice in Matthew 19, when Jesus gives the requirements to gain eternal life, that believing in Him was not even mentioned...Therefore, I think it is best to acknowledge this as Christ first trying to show the rich man that on his own, he CANNOT EARN Eternal life, but that it is a gift of God. This is exactly why the man went away sorrowful, because he did not get Saved. >>>John 6:29<<<

  • @BennyMetal7

    So you don't think that it's rather telling that Christ doesn't mention faith at all, and instead, emphasizes works?

    Furthermore, 1) the verse does NOT say that he "cannot earn" salvation, and it does NOT say that he "wasn't saved".

    Again, you read things into God's Word that aren't there.

  • @Dystopiologist So then, you believe it is possible to obtain Salvation without having Faith in Christs' deity and acknowledging the New Covenant? And yes, it says he went away grieving, obviously not excepting the call to Salvation.

  • @BennyMetal7

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    I'm not going to be so arrogant - or so stupid - as to pretend to know exactly who Almighy God will save and who He won't. My thoughts are not His thoughts.

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    This Calvinist stuff thinks otherwise, of course. Ultra-simplistic teachings-of-men, designed to tell us who is saved, and who is not.

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    The most we can say about that verse is that the man refused to be "perfect". But it is you who adds your own teaching about salvation.

  • @Dystopiologist So is it your belief that a man could be saved apart from Faith in Christ, who He is and what He has done? I think Christ makes this very clear in John 14:6.

  • @BennyMetal7, No, that's not my belief. There is no salvation outside of Christ.

  • @Dystopiologist Would you care to finish this conversation in private messages? If you would, could you provide an exegesis on Eph 2 and James 2?

  • I totally agree with this video!! Amen!

    But it doesn't really line up with his Calvinistic viewpoint that the elect will be saved. Hmm... :)

  • Whoa, starting to sound like an Arminian. Let's pray that God will complete his conversion to the truth.

  • @JohnWesleyMethodist Are you kidding? Just wondering since by your name you seem to be an Arminian... :)

  • @JohnWesleyMethodist OHHH wait. I get what you're saying now. I thought at first you meant conversion to Calvinism, but I get you meant Arminian now. hahaha

  • This is a great video!!

    I have added it to my faves list CS!

    Hello TC and God bless to all.

  • Great message! I agree, we should be compelling all to come to Christ.

    God bless!

  • @ChristianSociology

    god bless!~

  • John Piper...in a white shirt?? Wow. I had to do a double-take to make sure it was really him. :)

  • thanks Pastor John, you're such an encouragement...will be praying for you and this awesome ministry of yours!

    cheers!!

  • Two microphones?

  • The front microphone is removable and he normally pops it out before he preaches. It's used for those who make announcements, etc., (I attend Bethlehem Baptist.)

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