My error associated with the center of the universe quote. Nevertheless, I did enjoy our little chess game. BTW, my father's family is from Poland and my mother's from Austria. I'm an American born and bred and a loyal New York Yankee fan. I live on Whidbey Island Washington. You would be a great American if you were here. Peace.
@mrktyb No doube it's a nice song. Nevertheless, The English speaking countries, The UK, The United States, Australia, New Zeland and Canada contributed more then Germany ever did or could to Western Civilazition. And what language are you writing in ?
@josephonwhidbey I doubt that. Without german scientists, composers, inventors, philosophers and poets the world would be an undeveloped place. Protestantism wouldn´t exist. Many important Mathematicans like Gauss and Leibniz are german. Beethoven, Bach, Schubert, Mendelssohn are all german. Schiller, Goethe and Kant are german. Martin Luther, Willhelm & Alexander von Humboldt. The list goes on and on. Germany contributed more to the western civilization than those countries.
@DenverYellowStone I don't dispute the facts you submit but you forgut to mention Einstein. He was German too. Additionally, I forgot to mention that I married a German women Barbara Odermatt by name. Germany wasn't unified until 1870 under Bismark so it wasn't even a gountry until then. But haven't you heard of Shakespear or Alexander Flemming or Isac Newton, Charles Darwin might also be mentioned. In the year AD.1215 Magna Carta was signed. Where was Germany then ?
@josephonwhidbey I ran out of letters to mention that the UK contributed a lot to western society, but I mean Australia, New Zealand and Canada? Btw I like all of these countries. I just like to mention that it doesn´t matter when Germany was unified. We value our prussian, bavarian etc roots and traditions in Germany. Every little state that exists has its own "culture" here (even before the unification) and it is not as if all german history was erased only because of the founding of the BRD.
@josephonwhidbey By the way why would the Magna Charta be of any importance to western civilization? The american and french idea of human rights is more important to modern democratic nations. Also the romans already made a functioning table of laws. To come back to your "Germany wasn´t even a country" argument. It doesn´t matter my relatives were born in a place called prussian rhine province, nowadays still the rhineland -name doesn´t matter it is still german soil.
@DenverYellowStone Your facts in part may be correct but your conclusions are wrong. America is the child of the UK and received her culture from her. John Loch, Adam smith, Thomas Payne to name just a few. Additionally, the colonies established by the UK circled the globe and became a great commonwealth of free peoples. Germany never achieved that. The English speaking peoples never submitted to a dictator as was the case with many other nations.
@josephonwhidbey I didn´t think about contributing to western civilization in terms of colonizing the world and spreading english culture. The fact that Germany submitted to a dictator has nothing to do with our discussion about contributing to western society and limiting Germanys history to 12 years is sort of pathetic. I also didn´t doubt that America was the "child of the UK".
@DenverYellowStone 1) I never mentioned Germany associated with her submitting to a dictator. You did. 2) The standard of living in what is today the British Commonwealth of Nations is higher then it could have been if those terratories were never colonized by Britain. 3) The colonies that gained their independance from Britain, especially in Africa are far worse off today then they were as colonies. And again I ask; in what language are you writing ? More to follow.
@josephonwhidbey 1.) We were comparing Britain with Germany and you brought up "submitting to a dictator". 2.) You take it as a sign of superiority of Britain that im writing in english. 3.) I take it as a sign of superiority that I speak multiple languages. 4.) We can continue the discussion in german if you like.
@DenverYellowStone To reply to each point; 1) I was discussing the accomplishments of both nations. 2) I claim no superior status for Britain only that they accomplished more then Germany. 3) That you speak multipal languages is not uncommon in Europe because the states are so close together. 4) You began this thread because you claimed that Germany is the center of the universe. Make your proof. 5) More people from all over the world want to move to America then any other place. Your turn.
@josephonwhidbey I never said Germany was the center of the universe. The french guy that you replied to said that. I just said that Germany contributed more to western society than at least Australia, Canada, New Zealand and that it contributed at least as much to western civilization than Britain.Now I want to leave you in peace and hope you realize that this discussion leads to nowhere since we are both to proud. Btw it was a nice daily routine to answer your comments. Alles Gute!
@josephonwhidbey You are mixing up the words "state" and "nation". in 1871 a german state was build, but the german nation always was there. The germans called themself "germans" since the early medieval.
@Gruenkreuz100 From my point of view I'm not because I'm thinking like an American. Here we have prople from many nations including from Germany and the Germans here no longer consider themselves German but Americans with a German heritage. The same is true for the Italians, Irish Chinese and so on. What you say may be true in Europe but not here.
My error associated with the center of the universe quote. Nevertheless, I did enjoy our little chess game. BTW, my father's family is from Poland and my mother's from Austria. I'm an American born and bred and a loyal New York Yankee fan. I live on Whidbey Island Washington. You would be a great American if you were here. Peace.
josephonwhidbey 3 weeks ago
Germany is the country of music, arts and culture.
Never nver you will fonf so much beautiful melodies from others countries. Even the students associations produced wonderfull music.
Germany, you are the center of the universe.
Greetings from France.
mrktyb 4 weeks ago
@mrktyb No doube it's a nice song. Nevertheless, The English speaking countries, The UK, The United States, Australia, New Zeland and Canada contributed more then Germany ever did or could to Western Civilazition. And what language are you writing in ?
josephonwhidbey 4 weeks ago
@josephonwhidbey I doubt that. Without german scientists, composers, inventors, philosophers and poets the world would be an undeveloped place. Protestantism wouldn´t exist. Many important Mathematicans like Gauss and Leibniz are german. Beethoven, Bach, Schubert, Mendelssohn are all german. Schiller, Goethe and Kant are german. Martin Luther, Willhelm & Alexander von Humboldt. The list goes on and on. Germany contributed more to the western civilization than those countries.
DenverYellowStone 4 weeks ago
@DenverYellowStone I don't dispute the facts you submit but you forgut to mention Einstein. He was German too. Additionally, I forgot to mention that I married a German women Barbara Odermatt by name. Germany wasn't unified until 1870 under Bismark so it wasn't even a gountry until then. But haven't you heard of Shakespear or Alexander Flemming or Isac Newton, Charles Darwin might also be mentioned. In the year AD.1215 Magna Carta was signed. Where was Germany then ?
josephonwhidbey 3 weeks ago
@josephonwhidbey I ran out of letters to mention that the UK contributed a lot to western society, but I mean Australia, New Zealand and Canada? Btw I like all of these countries. I just like to mention that it doesn´t matter when Germany was unified. We value our prussian, bavarian etc roots and traditions in Germany. Every little state that exists has its own "culture" here (even before the unification) and it is not as if all german history was erased only because of the founding of the BRD.
DenverYellowStone 3 weeks ago
@josephonwhidbey By the way why would the Magna Charta be of any importance to western civilization? The american and french idea of human rights is more important to modern democratic nations. Also the romans already made a functioning table of laws. To come back to your "Germany wasn´t even a country" argument. It doesn´t matter my relatives were born in a place called prussian rhine province, nowadays still the rhineland -name doesn´t matter it is still german soil.
DenverYellowStone 3 weeks ago
@DenverYellowStone Your facts in part may be correct but your conclusions are wrong. America is the child of the UK and received her culture from her. John Loch, Adam smith, Thomas Payne to name just a few. Additionally, the colonies established by the UK circled the globe and became a great commonwealth of free peoples. Germany never achieved that. The English speaking peoples never submitted to a dictator as was the case with many other nations.
josephonwhidbey 3 weeks ago
@josephonwhidbey I didn´t think about contributing to western civilization in terms of colonizing the world and spreading english culture. The fact that Germany submitted to a dictator has nothing to do with our discussion about contributing to western society and limiting Germanys history to 12 years is sort of pathetic. I also didn´t doubt that America was the "child of the UK".
DenverYellowStone 3 weeks ago
@DenverYellowStone 1) I never mentioned Germany associated with her submitting to a dictator. You did. 2) The standard of living in what is today the British Commonwealth of Nations is higher then it could have been if those terratories were never colonized by Britain. 3) The colonies that gained their independance from Britain, especially in Africa are far worse off today then they were as colonies. And again I ask; in what language are you writing ? More to follow.
josephonwhidbey 3 weeks ago
@josephonwhidbey 1.) We were comparing Britain with Germany and you brought up "submitting to a dictator". 2.) You take it as a sign of superiority of Britain that im writing in english. 3.) I take it as a sign of superiority that I speak multiple languages. 4.) We can continue the discussion in german if you like.
DenverYellowStone 3 weeks ago
@DenverYellowStone To reply to each point; 1) I was discussing the accomplishments of both nations. 2) I claim no superior status for Britain only that they accomplished more then Germany. 3) That you speak multipal languages is not uncommon in Europe because the states are so close together. 4) You began this thread because you claimed that Germany is the center of the universe. Make your proof. 5) More people from all over the world want to move to America then any other place. Your turn.
josephonwhidbey 3 weeks ago
@josephonwhidbey I never said Germany was the center of the universe. The french guy that you replied to said that. I just said that Germany contributed more to western society than at least Australia, Canada, New Zealand and that it contributed at least as much to western civilization than Britain.Now I want to leave you in peace and hope you realize that this discussion leads to nowhere since we are both to proud. Btw it was a nice daily routine to answer your comments. Alles Gute!
DenverYellowStone 3 weeks ago
@josephonwhidbey You are mixing up the words "state" and "nation". in 1871 a german state was build, but the german nation always was there. The germans called themself "germans" since the early medieval.
Gruenkreuz100 2 weeks ago
@Gruenkreuz100 From my point of view I'm not because I'm thinking like an American. Here we have prople from many nations including from Germany and the Germans here no longer consider themselves German but Americans with a German heritage. The same is true for the Italians, Irish Chinese and so on. What you say may be true in Europe but not here.
josephonwhidbey 2 weeks ago
@mrktyb Thank you very much! France is a really beautiful and important nation! Long live the Franco-German friendship!!! Vive la France!
DenverYellowStone 4 weeks ago
Mein Gott, war diese Zeit schön Z!
cholagogus 2 months ago
ich mag es immernoch :-)
m3rkur 3 months ago
oh jerum jerum jerum...
Ach, scheee
Glasslie 3 months ago 2