Physics, Metaphysics & the Consciousness Connection 16 of 18

[mjvg123]

Language is a barrier, but i think i expressed what i intended. Does anyone have conflicting beliefs/ideas or maybe anything to add (regarding my last comment)?

[mjvg123]

@12 december i think the most popular belief is that we choose to experience and manifest physically for the experience itself-to learn grow and evolve or transcend. And i think consciousness does not exist without other consciousness because you can only understand what you are by witnessing beings similar to yourself that experience as you do making interaction between them key. Nothing exists without conciousness and many beings collectively make up the organism of our universe.

[iamdk007]

this reality is a joke. we have all this amazing science but we are stuck in a monetary system(money system) watch zietgiest 2 addendum. money is debt. if the united states payed off its debt. there would be no money in circulation.

[samann95014]

I once had an NDE because of overdose. What I experienced (hell, heaven, good, evil, purpose, nature of multiverse) is very much in alignment with what you're saying. That was some soma experience!

[AeroLynda123]

I just asked my sisters to buy me your big TOE for my birthday on the 13th. This presentation has been one of the greatest things I've ever watched on YouTube. Thank you for bringing this to the world. I am so happy I found you!

[twcjr44]

Yes, and to Taoism, Buddhism, Gnosticism, and many others. Threads of truth abound in many religions and philosophies -- MBT ties them all together along with contemporary science in one model of reality.

[PobjedaIstine]

Very similer to the Islamic sufism.

[Rhal95]

@PobjedaIstine I noticed that too. And Zen buddism, and gnostic chrisianity. I guess truth is universal, but with differences in personal expression. Here is a quote I found from the early gnostics: Jesus said, "The shadows of this world are perceived by mortals, and they think they know Truth, but the Reality which casts the shadows is hidden from them. -Sayings of Jesus 2:2

[twcjr44]

Mostly they choose to go there because they do not know anything else -- and because it is what they are suited for they are not encouraged to go anywhere else. There is relatively very little movement between major reality frames. it is not a free for all. Wheather by habit or regulation, our PMRis more like a club with a specific focus than a resource open and available to all with no entrance criteria. Some order appears to be imposed to prevent one "experiment" from contaminating another.

[12thDecember]

These realities that are described as "law of the jungle, dangerous places, anything can happen," why would a consciousness choose to enter such a place to begin with? And I wonder if some dangerous people in our reality were once inhabitants of those other realities and they've come here as predators because we are not as instinctively wary of them as the inhabitants of a lawless, unconstrained reality would be.

What induces consciousness to manifest a physical form in a chosen reality?

[dsmith5167]

@12thDecember dangerous people in our reality were once inhabitants of those other realities

If they were, there slate was wiped at the birth process. To a greater extent Humanity is its own creature. Far to often we want to label bad things on the devil if you will. Truth is if something bothers you it is because at a deep subconscious level you know you are capable of doing the same. Discovering ones true nature is no light task, but the rewards far outweigh the hell you may encounter.

[twcjr44]

Entropy is not the only thing. As I discuss in the books, entropy can be lowered by control/force rather than growth of the being. That is how the negative (dark side) develops its personal power. Evolving toward the negative is extremely limited compared to evolving toward the positive side and contains the seeds of its own distruction (no long term viability) (the Nazis and perhaps your ex wife being good examples of that process.

[KindaGamey]

The Nazis had extremely low entropy compared to other social structures. So did my ex-wife and she had a lot of trouble adapting to randomness. I don't think I'd want to emulate either of those systems.

I suppose the Nazis were not efficient for everyone which creates high entropy for part of the system. Perhaps a necessary trauma for global growth.

As for my ex- and all other disparate systems to my own, we shall meet where the averages of all of our efficiency models converge - the center.

[Moonanite]

the group think mentality of Nazism did greatly reduce entropy but it did not encourage evolution or growth because it lacked diversity. In such a state it would have a uniform weakness making it very susceptible to...well non-existence. It didn't work because it wasn't a system that was ABLE to work.

[nednednerb]

i think you may downplay language as "fluff" a bit too arbitrarily. We invest meaning into our linguistic tokens. to kissing and hugging to pointing, to writing and feeling poetry, our linguistic tokens are rich, imaginative, and spontaneously generating. we feel across ourselves with language. Language is almost fundamental to consciousness. The clam and you take a body across to each other that conveys some "data". Meaning, form, and language are our experience, consciousness' substance.