The Black-White IQ Gap: James Flynn vs. Charles Murray (3)

[MrStonemike]

I could have told you it was whites fault that most blacks are ignorant! This guy is too predictable, he actually believes if everyone had" perfect equality" , all problems would be solved! No ideological group is more narrow minded or ruled by a "deranged" obsession more than radical progressives, they tend to blame lack of intelligence on people who are intelligent, and they blame poor people on rich people! Poor , stupid SOBs!

[ion010101]

It's astronomically mind blowing how far humans will go to believe what they want to believe.

[thomaserossi]

Flynn's argument at 6:00 explains his Liberal position perfectly - he wants EQUAL OUTCOME at the expense of others. He'd happily made the world suffer at the barrel of a gun to force others into his perverted version of equality. The reason why no one pays attention to asian acheivement is because despite the efforts of Liberals to exclude asians from Ivy League schools such as Berkley and Stanford because "there are too many asians and not enough blacks and latinos." That is Liberalism.

[dancingwithcalvin]

@thomaserossi

Right so racism is the answer, right?

[Ponerology]

Flynn comes out really strong here. I'm looking forward to hearing Murray's arguments. Does anyone know of a Flynn-Rushton debate that could be found on the web?

[ion010101]

I think whites are resentful because their women somewhat look like gorillas. I mean, if your grandma had man hands with long ape fingers, and the other races were making fun, you'd be resentful, too. They can be as abstrusely academic as they want. They can be as bleeding heart "don't see looks" all they want. When whites look in a mirror, they see *that face* looking back at them and they know other races can mock them for it. That's all that matters when it comes to human behavior.

[DragonnSlayerr]

@ion010101 rationalization, denial and projection.

[abaskcasckbackj]

Funny how the liberal only mentions IQ in America

[bashr4]

enviroment definitely plays a big role in IQ , how is it that people from west africa perfom poorly in their school but at soon as you bring them over to the us or uk with a better living and learning enviroment they do better then thier male and even asian counterparts

[Supportk100]

If a man have to prove that he is far more intelligent then say, a black person, then he must not be. Why does he find it necessary to prove that he is smarter, sounds like he have a special self-esteem problem....Maybe because of his resessive genes..or inferior genes...Thats the problem, and then to show how really intelligent he is, he put all blacks in the same box...so to speak....How dumb is that...

[Supportk100]

If the shoe was on the other foot, things these so-called test would be just as stupid.

Check out how a white racist old man who just happen to have some kind of an education, use his influence to attack poor blacks, and in some cases uneducated.

I think his thinking is flawed, the problem with his statements are that blacks do not conform to the ways of a white racist race of people , so therefore, blacks must be lesless intelligent then whites..What kind of benefits do this white racist

[FREEAMERICANOW69]

funny, how all these videos are comparing the most intellectual whites to the some non-educated and poverty stricken blacks, and then say, "whites are smarter," w/o comparing non-educated and poverty stricken whites to intellectual blacks.

[habenichtsgesehen]

Well I can tell you that blacks here in Germany are the same as black anywhere.

What he is saying is just not true.

If they are a little bit more intelligent than blacks in Africa, it is just because here aren't as many blacks. Intelligence is a little bit environmental but mostly genetically.

[sc0pl355]

@habenichtsgesehen Have you ever actually met an African?

[gmccall22]

@habenichtsgesehen I'd say flynn is a lot more qualified than you are to say whether it's genetic or not

[DEFACTO9]

@gmccall22 Id say as a graduate in Biochemistry that you need to ask yourself how a scientific expereiment selected in the first place for "race" in any of these IQ tests. did they just select them by sight? how scientific, so race is actually about something unscientific and subjective as your phenotype. lolol. only idiots believe such tests have ever been funded for cross cultural purposes. it keeps many paid and some in the limelight and racists clinging for dear life. Wake up its 2010 lolol

[gmccall22]

@DEFACTO9..WTF are you talking about ? Traditional IQ tests are about as relevant to me as toe jam. Any linguistic and some aspects of spatial tests doesn't remotely cover intelligence as a whole...Maybe you commented to the wrong person here

[DEFACTO9]

@gmccall22 read what I said again.. This time think as you read

[gmccall22]

@DEFACTO9 I think you should read what you wrote again. Say exactly what you mean. I don't see anything between the lines

[ceejaywt]

@DEFACTO9 lolol you are such an idiot. Just read your stupid comments to gmccall22! Get a grip of yourself Defacto9.

[DEFACTO9]

@ceejaywt

I was head boy of my white school, went to university obtained two degrees, run my own business in IT and Trade Futures and Options and you are the first person in my life to imply that somehow I am "stupid" lolol. Yeah sure . Fuck off idiot. You are all over black issues on youtube. we see your obsession.

[TaqiyyaExposer]

@DEFACTO9

I have called you stupid on numerous occasions... Lying liberal whore.

[TheMedievalMan]

@TaqiyyaExposer Dont worry too much about him. He goes around youtube attacking people over race issues. You see he has an inferiority complex. Hes worried that all of the evidence showing racial differences could be true, and this scares him to death. So by putting down other people who hold this view point, and making himself feel accomplished. He can bring his mind away from reality, and live in his own self centered world. That is sadly how some people deal with uncomfortable topics.

[TaqiyyaExposer]

@TheMedievalMan

Those people are called liberals. I have noticed him on every race related page on youtube, desperately combating the truth with piteous lies.

[dancingwithcalvin]

@TheMedievalMan

"You see he has an inferiority complex. Hes worried that all of the evidence showing racial differences could be true, and this scares him to death. "

hah. "the evidence showing racial differences" was debunked in the seventies. Intelligence is malleable.

[TheMedievalMan]

@dancingwithcalvin Still living in the 70s are we? No buddy... WRONG, the nature vs nurture debate has been debunked. Only the libs like yourself are still living in the "equality" world view. Not only has science proven since that women & men have different ways of thinking, that genes influence intelligence, that certain people have an extraordinarily natural thinking ability which is detectable at an early age. Yet morons like yourself continue to cling on to "we are all the same inside".

[dancingwithcalvin]

@TheMedievalMan

A certain person might have extraordinarily natural thinking ability, but some one born with "average" natural thinking ability can catch up with the proper environment, and with simply having the will to learn. You right the nature vs nurture debate is over, nurture won. Google neuroplasticity you fucking moron. I'm a neurobiology major, Why am i even wasting my time with you? We all have the same potential, race aside, and gender aside. Now go back to your LARP meetings.

[ion010101]

@dancingwithcalvin Point to one instance of that happening, and I'll believe it.

[dancingwithcalvin]

@ion010101

Read the autobiography of Benjamin Franklin.

[ion010101]

@dancingwithcalvin I have. Try again. 

[dancingwithcalvin]

@ion010101

No you haven't, your too stupid. I don't waste my time with liars, good bye.

[ion010101]

@dancingwithcalvin LOL.

[dancingwithcalvin]

@ion010101

Plus I don't need "instances" Its fact. Google neuroplasticity, Google mirror neurons, google malleable intelligence.

Your honestly arguing that blacks are dumber than whites? I'm black, moron. How exactly are you superior to me?

[ion010101]

@dancingwithcalvin Oh, hello, again. No, that's not what I'm arguing. I'm arguing that some traits turn up more often in some groups than in others. Take two groups, A and B. 50 people in A have an IQ of 100. 55 people in group B have an IQ of 100. No one is superior, the 100 IQs from both groups are equally intelligent; but group B has more people with an IQ of 100 than group A. Of the population groups on Earth, it's silly to think they all have EXACTLY the same number of 100 IQs, on average.

[TheMedievalMan]

@dancingwithcalvin No you fucken' moron. Dont give me your credentialism crap. You are speaking to me because it upsets you that you are simply wrong. Your idiotic idea that "we all have the same potential" is self contradicting. You just told me that people can have a natural advantage in thinking ability, and then turn around and tell me that we have equal potential? Which is it? Either we have equal potential, or we have different weaknesses and strengths from the start.

[TheMedievalMan]

@dancingwithcalvin It is morons like you who are the reason why we have tried to build this "environment" that will some how save the unsavable from bettering themselves. My Father is an educator at a mostly nigger school for more than 30 years. Every year there is some moron like yourself who thinks that if we take the advice of the latest "research", and apply it to the students. His school will raise from a C or D school, to the level of the rest of the country. And every time it fails.

[TheMedievalMan]

@dancingwithcalvin When will morons like yourself learn that most of what we are is already determined for us since birth? It is true that an endomorph can loose weight, that an ectomorph can gain lean muscle. That a homosexual can live a straight lifestyle. That a person with low visuospatial ability can learn to play chess. But someone with a biological advantage from the start will ALWAYS exceed vs those who do not, given that both have learned at an equal pace.

[TheMedievalMan]

@dancingwithcalvin Mozart, Einstein, Fischer, Bach, Da Vinci, Newton, Tesla etc. of the world cannot be duplicated from your "neurobiology" bullshit. You have a limit of how much you can make someone into something before nature puts up a wall in front of you. You dont deserve your major, college/universities that give morons like you an education is a waste of time and resource. Liberals in our educational institutions outnumber 25 to 1, its no wonder morons like you keep coming out of them.

[dancingwithcalvin]

@TheMedievalMan

Einstein was Jewish, not even considered white during the time he was practicing. Same with Fischer. Da vinci was Italian, not considered white until the 1920's. There is no wall that nature puts up. Read this a few times so you remember. THE BRAIN IS MALLEABLE. That means intelligence and talent are malleable. I'm not even a liberal....I'm just.....black, and don't like being refereed to as inferior, or any other race for that matter. You racist are the lowest of the low. hah.

[TheMedievalMan]

@dancingwithcalvin Jews are a superior in intelligence. Their problem is based on culture, not genetics like Niggers like yourself. Look at Rushtons findings, he admits that part of intelligence is of course environment. But nature makes up a large part of it. Of course the brain is "malleable" to a certain extent. Otherwise we would not be able to remember and learn things you dumbass, it has to be. But tests show time and time again race, gender etc. plays a role in how our brains work.

[TheMedievalMan]

@dancingwithcalvin No shit Einstein and Fischer were Jews. Some how I think you assume I am arguing that only White people are intelligent. I am a Eurasian, half White half East Asian, Im not arguing on behalf of only "Whites". By the way, Fischer was an anti-semite, who despised his Jewish side. I actually feel bad for him, he is a classic case of the tragic genius, like Nietzche was. Being too intelligent comes at a price, sometimes you cannot function normally with the rest of society.

[dancingwithcalvin]

@TheMedievalMan

So your arguing on behalf of whites and orientals? Racism is racism buddy. It does not matter, obviously if you knew anything about IQ stats you would know that Asians are the highest ranking. But if you ask an Asian family why Asians score so well, they will tell you hard-work and discipline. They would laugh at the idea of genetically superior people. Nietzsche may be a genius by your standards, but not by mine. He was just a bitter critique of religion, and went insane.

[TheMedievalMan]

@dancingwithcalvin Jews are the highest, followed by Asians. I am arguing on behalf of all non-negros. With Whites, Asians & Jews being clearly the most superior people in the world. Nietzsche was a unique articulate thinker, just because some of his philosophy was wrong, doesnt mean that he didnt have a unique mind. Nature plays a larger role in brain development. You dont know much about Asians, they are some of the most racially arrogant people in the world, look up the case of Lou Jing.

[dancingwithcalvin]

@TheMedievalMan

All non Negroes? Of course you are. Well I guess thats just bad luck seeing as I am full Nigerian. So nature just doesn't like me? Hmmm, you would have a point...but history tells us just the opposite. Google "ancient Saharan Kingdoms" for starts.

[MrStonemike]

@dancingwithcalvin ---I'm not bad mouthing blacks or anyone , but all that is proven through history is that most areas, regardless of location, have been dominated by the most intelligent group within that area! That does not mean the higher group was highly intelligent, just that maybe the competing groups were highly ignorant!

[dancingwithcalvin]

@TheMedievalMan

Nature hardly plays a role in brain development. It plays a role in Where the brain starts out at birth, but environment plus personal choice is what developed the brain. If you choose to become smart, and persevering, YOUR BRAIN WILL CHANGE. Its called neuroplasticity.

[dancingwithcalvin]

@TheMedievalMan

The brain is malleable for the last time, and consciousness is quantum. For example long periods of meditating changes white matter to grey matter. Im sure you know the history of discipline in Asia? Why do you think Japan became a super power so fast?

[Evaporator134a]

@dancingwithcalvin "consciousness is quantum"

Sorry its nowhere near as powerful as it would be if it were.

[MrStonemike]

@dancingwithcalvin Truth nullifies all claims of racism! If a persons beliefs are true, they are not racist!

[ceejaywt]

@DEFACTO9 Ur a liar too.

[ceejaywt]

@DEFACTO9 fuck off