its so sexist how all of these feminist always say "its affecting girls". As if men don't have any pressure to look good, and as if men don't look at magazines where there's an unrealistic sense of beauty. Many psychologist actually think that many men are dissatisfied with their penis size because of pornography.
you cant ban it. you can ban photoshop, rather regulate what people do with photoshop.
Furthermore, you wouldnt be able to prove what has and has not been "shopped" and there would be cases with highly attractive models, they would say that the REAL pictures are too good, because of how attractive they are. out of control, yes. BUT there is no way to control it. The reality is that there is no more reality in this society. everything is fake and unobtainable, great for business... sadly... ugh.
@Sc0ttPrian No, theres plenty. Just not on TV, where there never was. Thats the whole point, its supposed to be interesting. And real life isnt interesting.
Its pretty ignorant to pretend we didnt just step out of the age of braziers and corsets.
Besides, even if there was no photoshop, most people are ugly, will always be ugly, and could never achieve a certain look no matter how much they try. To assume that anyone should be able to be beautiful is wishful thinking at best.
@callowaymotorcompany I'm not really one to talk anyway.. I have the tools to edit music to the same point. For the music industry, if it isn't perfect, who would buy it? However, good music doesn't seem to depress people as much as apparent good looks.
without photoshop, people would only have imagination of what "perfection" looks like. but, like I said, I'm not one to talk.. I suppose..
@multibigpop Your actually a retarded kid, I know it is really hard to fathom that kind of workmanship and creativity, which is why your a horrible photographer, but it can be done my little friend.
@multibigpop Anyways pumpkin, this has really been fun, I have to get back to the shop, let me know when your stuck on your project, I have to go make some money. Peace
@multibigpop Paper boy eh? Sweet was your allowance 400$ a day for doing what you love? Oh and not to mention did you have a day job on top of the allowance that is a starting 50,000$ a year contract? Fuck it's sweet to be you man, now I know how you could afford that 6 000$ Horseman and Hasselblad, oh and you just bought a new guitar too? No way you paid 10 000$ for a vintage strat? Fuck I wish I was you man, I am gonna go back to my little 120/35 mm shooter while you live the dream, peace
@0AdamHeartMother0 10,000 Dollar Strat, lol. Look here, son, Strats are one of the, IF NOT, the most produced guitar in history. If you actually paid ten thousand dollars for one, you must have bought it because Hendrix, or SRV looked at it, and you fell for the scam. Rattling off accomplishments (fake accomplishments) makes you look like a total tool. Just sayin'. LOG OV WUD
@OfEternalDespair First of all I wouldn't call them accomplishments I would just call it perks of being born into a wealthy family and having the money to build a business and get what I enjoy. Second, 10K is a steal for a vintage fender, you should really do some research on your shit before you talk, they can get up to 50 000$ and it has nothing to do with any iconic musicians "looking" at the guitar, I am going to send you some links so you don't make yourself look like an idiot in the future
@0AdamHeartMother0 You paid ten grand for a guitar I could build for less than a grand. I don't give a single fuck what the headstock says, Fender, Gibson, Cocksucker, whatever, quality is quality, regardless of name. You're the idiot who played into the name game, and now you have a 10k piece of alder. Congrats, moron.
21 years old<Doesn't understand what a possessive is<Says "log of wood"<Thinks pinhole cameras are hard to make<Scoffs at digital technology<Uploaded film scans by use of digital technology<Looks like it was filmed with a potato. Man, quit while you're behind.
The fuck are you talking about? Longer focal length doesn't give an illusion of flatness, unless you're shooting with absolute shit (sears lens of any kind). And the point of a longer focal length is so the photographer can be less intrusive on A: light setups and B: the model.
@multibigpop Intrusive? Turn your flash units up a bit there is no need to bring your light set up closer. This is the problem with new age digital photographers, you all think you know everything, and all seem to be assholes. I will stick to my Rollei, Hassey, and Horseman, max 80mm lens, have fun trying to replicate that quality with your so called "quality" digital cameras, that still no matter what you do produce a flat image with horrible depth of field with that big of a lens.
@0AdamHeartMother0 Implying I shoot digital at all. That was just stupid, considering the same rules stood when film was the big boom and there were more options that didn't only consist of prime lenses. I shoot 120, and I am in the middle of creating a wooden box (like the brownie) with a lens mount as both a medium format and 35mm shooter (cropping math based on lens register distance from focal plane involved). So take that "film" snob-shit elsewhere.
@multibigpop Good job kid let me know if you need a hand I just finished my first 8x10, had an old Nikkor-W 300mm f5.6 lying around and a couple extra hours a day so what the hell? Also I build custom pinholes that allow for polaroid, 35mm, 120, and 220, so take that camera building snob shit elsewhere.
@0AdamHeartMother0 Odd, because I have built plenty of pinholes. Those are simplistic. Well, more technical than a digital camera. But still not as hard as you seem to be implying. Shit, high schoolers make those for school projects. But alright. The fact that you even used the word "custom" and "pinholes" in the same sentence tells me you're trying too hard to pretend you understand what you're saying. hahah
@multibigpop Custom meaning clients tell me exactly what they want and I produce it. The last one I did was out of a log of wood, one before was a model car. It's really easy to get a little cardboard box...
@0AdamHeartMother0 Enjoy your super long focal length and your super slow aperture. I am sure you'll catch plenty of action with either your super slow shutter, or your super high ISO. Enjoy your grain and blur, asshole.
@0AdamHeartMother0 "Custom pinholes that allow polaroid 35,120,220". Implying polaroid film somehow loads differently than other films of the same format when used with pinholes.
@0AdamHeartMother0 Also depends on the intended softening or light spread effect in terms of light distance away from models, or subjects such as vehicles. So, you can't always move the light setup closer. And again, it's also about being less intrusive to the model while shooting. Sharpness (the opposite of flatness) also comes from your chemical processes, too. Clearly you must be a hipster. Let me guess, you cross-process all of your film?
@multibigpop No actually I shoot mostly colour slides processed properly with E6, the only time I use D76 is at home because I don't usually shoot negatives. I have to ship most of my film to Britain because I shoot a lot of Scala (I am sure you have no idea) and there is no where else left to process it. Thank God my grandfather was sponsored by Kodak and Agfa so I have a few freezers full of film left over...
it is very hard to get an audience on youtube especially for new channels.
although everyone is writing 'check out my channel', i think you should do that (i do that aswell) because the videos might be really good although no one is watching them.
so: check out my channel about photography and comedy!
@CastleOfButterflies you mean garbage that poor lighting techniques of the photographer produces. Really, many of these photographers working on big contracts for these magazines aren't hired for their talent as photographers but as editors and retouchers, not that the retoucher is always involved with taking the photo. Its more about producing a "usable" image that can then be edited to bits.
@MarlowWhere So, you're insinuating that using the exact same effects in photoshop for two different projects takes more talent? Even if one of the projects is more time consuming, or intricate, it means nothing in terms of whether photoshop is hard to use or whether it actually takes any talent to use.
@multibigpop I feel like you are agreeing with me. My point was that given a larger sized project and more "pitfalls" to work around using photoshop becomes more of a skill...and most certainly is a skill. I am no entirely comfortable with the amount of editing some people do in post, but I wont deny that it takes an intricate knowledge of the program(s) they use to edit.
@MarlowWhere Well, THAT can't be argued with. I was just saying once you have that understanding, it's not very hard at all (like anything anyone learns, I suppose).
@multibigpop But I can see why some would see retouching as illegitimate, while editing a photo for artistic purposes is deemed ok (though still questionable for some people). I think retouchers have a completely different knowledge of photoshop and its purpose than someone who is just trying to make their photo look "different." I guess that's why I can respect, and question, what they do because their knowledge of editing is encompassing, though their purpose is to correct content, not style.
The retouching that is done sometimes just fixes flaws that show up on camera. You have to remember that photography flattens things out a bit, and in order to make things appear more lifelike, shadows sometimes have to be added, removed. At certain angles in real life, you don't have bags under your eyes. In this particular photo, the shadows cast underneath her eyes made her appear older. So to make her look more realistic, the shadows were removed. He improved the photo, not her appearance.
Oh i looked her looking amazed that she's gonna be retouched like Hollywood stars and i say "hey what's wrong with her!?" And so what she will??But this is because i'm used to that, i have the best photos of myself on the internet and everywhere...because..................i am the PhotoShopper baby...its cool!! And btw,i keep on saying to ppl the same as he said!!"Tell me what you want,and i can do EVERYTHING!!<3
Ban it. Children die from eating disorders because they want to look like the person on the cover of whatever magazine they are looking at. Celebrities should be role models, not blatant liars who are too insecure to be human.
@MrWrong0307 its not like they are making fat people look skinny. They are making already fit people look even better. Plus. if there were legislation to ban retouching, then I'm sure we would run into the problem of ignorant politicians creating laws that would make any editing of a photo, at least for advertising purposes, illegal. The same techniques are used in photos that have nothing to do with models, should they be banned too?
@MarlowWhere Sigh. If I had seen this baseless argument prior to my last response to you, I would have just omitted it. Clearly, you're blowing this out of proportion You're turning a simple situation into a convoluted, hypothetical situation.
@MrWrong0307 I don't know if you ever hired a professional photographer...but a good majority of them will retouch photos of brides, groom, graduating seniors, etc. This is not just a "problem" in the media. Its everywhere, and many ordinary people expect that when they are photographed that work be done to the photos to make them the most flattering.
Well ..... retouchng shoud not be banned , caz after all , this makes the job for us much easier , and make magazine covers much beautiful :P lol BUT but but....... there should be a campain to aware about it :D
WOW ur video is amazing :DDDDDD i was wondering how did u do to remove the "Things " under the eye , caz u just press a button :D D thanx plz reply :D ^_^
its so sexist how all of these feminist always say "its affecting girls". As if men don't have any pressure to look good, and as if men don't look at magazines where there's an unrealistic sense of beauty. Many psychologist actually think that many men are dissatisfied with their penis size because of pornography.
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jakopemmanuel 3 hours ago
you cant ban it. you can ban photoshop, rather regulate what people do with photoshop.
Furthermore, you wouldnt be able to prove what has and has not been "shopped" and there would be cases with highly attractive models, they would say that the REAL pictures are too good, because of how attractive they are. out of control, yes. BUT there is no way to control it. The reality is that there is no more reality in this society. everything is fake and unobtainable, great for business... sadly... ugh.
Sc0ttPrian 1 day ago
@Sc0ttPrian No, theres plenty. Just not on TV, where there never was. Thats the whole point, its supposed to be interesting. And real life isnt interesting.
Its pretty ignorant to pretend we didnt just step out of the age of braziers and corsets.
Besides, even if there was no photoshop, most people are ugly, will always be ugly, and could never achieve a certain look no matter how much they try. To assume that anyone should be able to be beautiful is wishful thinking at best.
callowaymotorcompany 1 day ago
@callowaymotorcompany I'm not really one to talk anyway.. I have the tools to edit music to the same point. For the music industry, if it isn't perfect, who would buy it? However, good music doesn't seem to depress people as much as apparent good looks.
without photoshop, people would only have imagination of what "perfection" looks like. but, like I said, I'm not one to talk.. I suppose..
Sc0ttPrian 1 day ago
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Sc0ttPrian 1 day ago
0Adamheartmother0 : All the money in the world couldn't save your dog. hahaha
multibigpop 2 days ago
Adamheartmom makes clients pinhole cameras out of "logs of wood". hahaha Fucking moron.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop Your actually a retarded kid, I know it is really hard to fathom that kind of workmanship and creativity, which is why your a horrible photographer, but it can be done my little friend.
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
"Your"? You don't even understand what a possessive is. Can it be done with a "log of wood"?
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop Anyways pumpkin, this has really been fun, I have to get back to the shop, let me know when your stuck on your project, I have to go make some money. Peace
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
I used to get allowance, too. Now I have a real job. hahahaha
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop Paper boy eh? Sweet was your allowance 400$ a day for doing what you love? Oh and not to mention did you have a day job on top of the allowance that is a starting 50,000$ a year contract? Fuck it's sweet to be you man, now I know how you could afford that 6 000$ Horseman and Hasselblad, oh and you just bought a new guitar too? No way you paid 10 000$ for a vintage strat? Fuck I wish I was you man, I am gonna go back to my little 120/35 mm shooter while you live the dream, peace
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
My guitar isn't a strat. But it IS made from a "log of wood". hahahaha
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop Sears guitars are plastic dude relax, one day you will be where I am, one day.
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
Most assuredly made from a "log" that came from "wood". hahahaha
multibigpop 3 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 Sears guitars are plastic, dude, relax. One day, you will be where I am... one day.***
OfEternalDespair 3 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 10,000 Dollar Strat, lol. Look here, son, Strats are one of the, IF NOT, the most produced guitar in history. If you actually paid ten thousand dollars for one, you must have bought it because Hendrix, or SRV looked at it, and you fell for the scam. Rattling off accomplishments (fake accomplishments) makes you look like a total tool. Just sayin'. LOG OV WUD
OfEternalDespair 3 days ago
@OfEternalDespair First of all I wouldn't call them accomplishments I would just call it perks of being born into a wealthy family and having the money to build a business and get what I enjoy. Second, 10K is a steal for a vintage fender, you should really do some research on your shit before you talk, they can get up to 50 000$ and it has nothing to do with any iconic musicians "looking" at the guitar, I am going to send you some links so you don't make yourself look like an idiot in the future
0AdamHeartMother0 2 days ago
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No. What makes it a steal is the fact that it's made out of 100 percent log-wood...
multibigpop 2 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 You paid ten grand for a guitar I could build for less than a grand. I don't give a single fuck what the headstock says, Fender, Gibson, Cocksucker, whatever, quality is quality, regardless of name. You're the idiot who played into the name game, and now you have a 10k piece of alder. Congrats, moron.
OfEternalDespair 2 days ago
Fun Fact: Alder is a different form of "log of wood."
OfEternalDespair 2 days ago
21 years old<Doesn't understand what a possessive is<Says "log of wood"<Thinks pinhole cameras are hard to make<Scoffs at digital technology<Uploaded film scans by use of digital technology<Looks like it was filmed with a potato. Man, quit while you're behind.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop You can't even begin once again to comprehend where I was going with the last one, have fun kid.
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
Mind blown by your powerful mind that apparently can't muster up the power to use possessives when they are supposed to be used. haha
multibigpop 3 days ago
What's with the huge lens? Get a 50mm and move up....unless you want a 2 dimensional image...
0AdamHeartMother0 4 days ago
The fuck are you talking about? Longer focal length doesn't give an illusion of flatness, unless you're shooting with absolute shit (sears lens of any kind). And the point of a longer focal length is so the photographer can be less intrusive on A: light setups and B: the model.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop Intrusive? Turn your flash units up a bit there is no need to bring your light set up closer. This is the problem with new age digital photographers, you all think you know everything, and all seem to be assholes. I will stick to my Rollei, Hassey, and Horseman, max 80mm lens, have fun trying to replicate that quality with your so called "quality" digital cameras, that still no matter what you do produce a flat image with horrible depth of field with that big of a lens.
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 Implying I shoot digital at all. That was just stupid, considering the same rules stood when film was the big boom and there were more options that didn't only consist of prime lenses. I shoot 120, and I am in the middle of creating a wooden box (like the brownie) with a lens mount as both a medium format and 35mm shooter (cropping math based on lens register distance from focal plane involved). So take that "film" snob-shit elsewhere.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop Good job kid let me know if you need a hand I just finished my first 8x10, had an old Nikkor-W 300mm f5.6 lying around and a couple extra hours a day so what the hell? Also I build custom pinholes that allow for polaroid, 35mm, 120, and 220, so take that camera building snob shit elsewhere.
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 Odd, because I have built plenty of pinholes. Those are simplistic. Well, more technical than a digital camera. But still not as hard as you seem to be implying. Shit, high schoolers make those for school projects. But alright. The fact that you even used the word "custom" and "pinholes" in the same sentence tells me you're trying too hard to pretend you understand what you're saying. hahah
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop Custom meaning clients tell me exactly what they want and I produce it. The last one I did was out of a log of wood, one before was a model car. It's really easy to get a little cardboard box...
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 You're an idiot. Your friends and family don't count as clients.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 Enjoy your super long focal length and your super slow aperture. I am sure you'll catch plenty of action with either your super slow shutter, or your super high ISO. Enjoy your grain and blur, asshole.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 "Custom pinholes that allow polaroid 35,120,220". Implying polaroid film somehow loads differently than other films of the same format when used with pinholes.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop Are you fucking kidding me? You have no idea what the fuck your talking about it's official.
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
@0AdamHeartMother0 Also depends on the intended softening or light spread effect in terms of light distance away from models, or subjects such as vehicles. So, you can't always move the light setup closer. And again, it's also about being less intrusive to the model while shooting. Sharpness (the opposite of flatness) also comes from your chemical processes, too. Clearly you must be a hipster. Let me guess, you cross-process all of your film?
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop No actually I shoot mostly colour slides processed properly with E6, the only time I use D76 is at home because I don't usually shoot negatives. I have to ship most of my film to Britain because I shoot a lot of Scala (I am sure you have no idea) and there is no where else left to process it. Thank God my grandfather was sponsored by Kodak and Agfa so I have a few freezers full of film left over...
0AdamHeartMother0 3 days ago
4:52 Your also welcome
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mokphoto 4 days ago
no it should not be banned
FOXsurjanac 1 week ago
There's nothing really new here. 30 years ago we called it "Airbrush"
And where do you think the term "Cut and Paste" came from.
Photoshop is just the latest greatest tool to do digitally in a few hours what used to take days in the darkroom.
new technology but the principles are still the same.
966uht 1 week ago
Her color looked bad but that was the photograph. He just got rid of garbage the camera produces.
CastleOfButterflies 1 week ago
@CastleOfButterflies you mean garbage that poor lighting techniques of the photographer produces. Really, many of these photographers working on big contracts for these magazines aren't hired for their talent as photographers but as editors and retouchers, not that the retoucher is always involved with taking the photo. Its more about producing a "usable" image that can then be edited to bits.
MarlowWhere 6 days ago
@MarlowWhere Implying it takes talent to use liquify, curves, levels, LAB, or anything else in photoshop.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop I think it really all depends on what you are using photoshop for.
MarlowWhere 3 days ago
@MarlowWhere So, you're insinuating that using the exact same effects in photoshop for two different projects takes more talent? Even if one of the projects is more time consuming, or intricate, it means nothing in terms of whether photoshop is hard to use or whether it actually takes any talent to use.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@multibigpop I feel like you are agreeing with me. My point was that given a larger sized project and more "pitfalls" to work around using photoshop becomes more of a skill...and most certainly is a skill. I am no entirely comfortable with the amount of editing some people do in post, but I wont deny that it takes an intricate knowledge of the program(s) they use to edit.
MarlowWhere 2 days ago
@MarlowWhere Well, THAT can't be argued with. I was just saying once you have that understanding, it's not very hard at all (like anything anyone learns, I suppose).
multibigpop 2 days ago
@multibigpop But I can see why some would see retouching as illegitimate, while editing a photo for artistic purposes is deemed ok (though still questionable for some people). I think retouchers have a completely different knowledge of photoshop and its purpose than someone who is just trying to make their photo look "different." I guess that's why I can respect, and question, what they do because their knowledge of editing is encompassing, though their purpose is to correct content, not style.
MarlowWhere 1 day ago
The retouching that is done sometimes just fixes flaws that show up on camera. You have to remember that photography flattens things out a bit, and in order to make things appear more lifelike, shadows sometimes have to be added, removed. At certain angles in real life, you don't have bags under your eyes. In this particular photo, the shadows cast underneath her eyes made her appear older. So to make her look more realistic, the shadows were removed. He improved the photo, not her appearance.
CastleOfButterflies 1 week ago
I think it's like smoking, if you need to be told that this is fake(that smoking is dangerous) This you're probably too stupid to get by anyway.
TheBlackSheep2134 1 week ago
stop at 3:38 ur welcome
SuperPhantom357 2 weeks ago 10
Oh i looked her looking amazed that she's gonna be retouched like Hollywood stars and i say "hey what's wrong with her!?" And so what she will??But this is because i'm used to that, i have the best photos of myself on the internet and everywhere...because..................i am the PhotoShopper baby...its cool!! And btw,i keep on saying to ppl the same as he said!!"Tell me what you want,and i can do EVERYTHING!!<3
ArtistWoOoOo 2 weeks ago
I feel with new technology comes new and better ways of doing things. Photography should be no different.
markdingman501 2 weeks ago
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JirusSP66 2 weeks ago
Very SAD ONLY!!!!!!!
Khmerv3 2 weeks ago
....... this world is sad
HeraaaHD 2 weeks ago 2
No way...
ukaisaya88 3 weeks ago
magazines and model agencies tell me ...do not fix anything ...we have staff to do it ...its what im told all the time
acierman7589261 3 weeks ago
she doesnt need photoshop shes fucking gorgeous anyway
silentfox8 3 weeks ago 35
@silentfox8 disagree, emma watson is the girl
johangd 21 hours ago
Ban it. Children die from eating disorders because they want to look like the person on the cover of whatever magazine they are looking at. Celebrities should be role models, not blatant liars who are too insecure to be human.
MrWrong0307 1 month ago
@MrWrong0307 its not like they are making fat people look skinny. They are making already fit people look even better. Plus. if there were legislation to ban retouching, then I'm sure we would run into the problem of ignorant politicians creating laws that would make any editing of a photo, at least for advertising purposes, illegal. The same techniques are used in photos that have nothing to do with models, should they be banned too?
MarlowWhere 6 days ago
@MarlowWhere Sigh. If I had seen this baseless argument prior to my last response to you, I would have just omitted it. Clearly, you're blowing this out of proportion You're turning a simple situation into a convoluted, hypothetical situation.
multibigpop 3 days ago
@MrWrong0307 I don't know if you ever hired a professional photographer...but a good majority of them will retouch photos of brides, groom, graduating seniors, etc. This is not just a "problem" in the media. Its everywhere, and many ordinary people expect that when they are photographed that work be done to the photos to make them the most flattering.
MarlowWhere 6 days ago 2
I'd wreck that.
realguitarist07 2 months ago
Not banned at all ... No NO No Way!!
1partha11 4 months ago
Well ..... retouchng shoud not be banned , caz after all , this makes the job for us much easier , and make magazine covers much beautiful :P lol BUT but but....... there should be a campain to aware about it :D
gajetjoe 5 months ago
WOW ur video is amazing :DDDDDD i was wondering how did u do to remove the "Things " under the eye , caz u just press a button :D D thanx plz reply :D ^_^
gajetjoe 5 months ago